I went for a long ride with mine last night, in temperatures below 0°C (32°F). I had several issues with it. Firstly, the light kept switching off by itself when riding in pitch blackness, and also when I came back on to a main road with traffic. That is highly dangerous! Secondly, even with temperatures below freezing, the 12,000lm mode stepped down by around 60% after 6 or 7 seconds. There's no way thermal throttling occurred, as the light was cold to the touch. I even opened the app up while the light was on about 4000lm, and it said the light was 5°C. Magicshine claiming a runtime of 2hrs 30mins on 12,000lm is more than misleading, it's an outright lie that could get them in trouble with trading standards.
Hey I'm having issues also with my Monteer 12,000. Are you using it with the extension cable? That seemns to make runtime even worse because the extension cable is not thick enough to transmit that much power (power is lost)
Just ordered the light. Currently on Christmas sale $110 off, then common coupons you can find online take $66 more off, total came to $373.99. Good deal. Still feel silly for spending that much on a light, but Al the cheap >$100 ones I keep buying start failing within a couple months. Also I ride my e-bike on the pitch black country roads in the middle of the night and already has several accidents with wild life. Excited.
@@e.l.9589 yup loving it. no issue or regrets so far. Was a bit wonky at first with the app, didn't sync or work properly, but eventually it'll update the firmware on the light and everything will work after that. I used the app to set a couple of modes, and now only have to use the remote or button on the light itself. Everything is great. Battery placement is the only issue, its not small, and You gotta find some where to hide/place it on the bike, i attached mine under the rear rack, which is nice, but now i have a external cable running long the frame of my bike. I tried to run it though the bike frame internally but for some reason the light cables have super fat end connectors that wont fit inside the frame. but loving it.
Thanks for supplying a round about answer to a question that I asked Magicshine about this light and all I got was "Crickets". I asked if this light had a thermal protection switch just like all the other high end lights did such a Lupines. With lupines you cant run their light on max brightness in on hot days for too long before the thermal protection limits the brightness in order to protect the lamp. What they are calling a flood beam (the center lamp) is actually a cut off beam lamp. The way you have it mounted casts the beam way too tall. That center beam is meant to limit light dazzle for road type riding or areas where you have oncoming traffic..pedestrians, cars or other bikes. Angel it down more and you will see what I mean. When angled properly the center then does become a flood with i nice cutoff beam pattern. Personally I believe this light is a decent product but it was meant to compete with Lupines and they just missed the mark and overdid all of it. I dont think it has near the quality of the beams for all the various uses. But, they put a lot of cash into it and needed to get a return on that so here it is as a MTB light and not so much as a road use light also as they had first marketed it to be.
Could always put your garmin on the top of the stem as a spacer. I have the MJ900/906 combo and they rock for night riding on the trails.. I have been looking at this but want something like the exposure without a pack.
I have the Monteer 8000s v2 and use a lightweight Fenix 3000lm battery integrated torch on the helmet to see everywhere i look. I think it´s a better and cheaper solution than the Monteer 12000
I've been riding with the 6500 gen 1 on my road bike for a coupe years, at no point have I ever thought that I need more light, however I know I'll end up getting this light for at least my mountain bike at some point lol
Thanks for review. You have battery strapped wrong and why they are too long. You need to run the straps around the battery and frame. You will little excess. I have a monteer 3500 that i live but a short circuit in head unit caused battery to short and cut off light until its reset with another baytery pack. There is a design flaw in motherboard and i cant trust magicshine. Does anyone know if v2 monteer address the issue?
Great review Clint, I have run helmet 🪖 mounted lights in the past. In Seattle they were great because many of our trails were heavily forested and having a helmet mounted light allowed you to glance left and right to see you know what was coming up. Now that I'm in eastern Utah, I'm doing a ton more gravel rides and we just don't have the number of trees that they have their I'm in a high valley about 5,600 ft and I don't really get up into steady trees until I'm at 7500 to 8000 ft. But what we do have during summer are these big ass Beatles and they love to track the light couple years back I was bombing down a hill with some friends and I had the helmet light on and one of these Beatles I could see it coming I was doing 45 mph down this 2 mi downhill and I could see this thing coming and I move my head and it moved and it smacked me so hard in the glasses I had to stop for a couple minutes I mean I ended up with basically a black eye the next day. That was the last time I used the helmet light out here. These beetles are about 3/4" and hard shell.👁️
"I'm going to do this review with the light on the bike since that's probably how you'll use a bike light" - LOL. You had me laughing several times in this one.
Hi there. Fanstastic review. Could you please tell me how long the cable is that goes from the headlight to the battery? I have a large e bike Toni don’t know if it’ll be long enough. Also what does the connection to the light look it. Thanks a million. Steve
Actually gave this light to someone so I don’t have it with me anymore, but I recall correctly the cord was plenty along. So long that I had to wrap it around the top tube to take up the extra slack. As far as the connection, it’s a Three prong triangle shaped connector that’s very secure
Trail Evo Was awesome,.never seen the point of a narrow helmet light like the hangover... swapped it for a cheap wide beam Infun GT200 light. Their upcomming Portal light looks like a worthy helmet light. With that said I know rock automotive light pods... Baja S1 WA ambers on helmet,. morimoto 2 banger wide fogs for bars
Do not buy this light. I have the 8000 and it can't be trusted and has failed me continuously. Cheap cables will not hold up to any outdoor pursuit. Avoid and save yourself the headache, missed rides and getting stranded in the dark.
I went for a long ride with mine last night, in temperatures below 0°C (32°F).
I had several issues with it. Firstly, the light kept switching off by itself when riding in pitch blackness, and also when I came back on to a main road with traffic. That is highly dangerous!
Secondly, even with temperatures below freezing, the 12,000lm mode stepped down by around 60% after 6 or 7 seconds. There's no way thermal throttling occurred, as the light was cold to the touch. I even opened the app up while the light was on about 4000lm, and it said the light was 5°C.
Magicshine claiming a runtime of 2hrs 30mins on 12,000lm is more than misleading, it's an outright lie that could get them in trouble with trading standards.
Hey I'm having issues also with my Monteer 12,000. Are you using it with the extension cable? That seemns to make runtime even worse because the extension cable is not thick enough to transmit that much power (power is lost)
Just ordered the light. Currently on Christmas sale $110 off, then common coupons you can find online take $66 more off, total came to $373.99. Good deal. Still feel silly for spending that much on a light, but Al the cheap >$100 ones I keep buying start failing within a couple months. Also I ride my e-bike on the pitch black country roads in the middle of the night and already has several accidents with wild life. Excited.
Cygolite is a good one for reliability longterm. Are you still happy with it?
@@e.l.9589 yup loving it. no issue or regrets so far. Was a bit wonky at first with the app, didn't sync or work properly, but eventually it'll update the firmware on the light and everything will work after that. I used the app to set a couple of modes, and now only have to use the remote or button on the light itself. Everything is great. Battery placement is the only issue, its not small, and You gotta find some where to hide/place it on the bike, i attached mine under the rear rack, which is nice, but now i have a external cable running long the frame of my bike. I tried to run it though the bike frame internally but for some reason the light cables have super fat end connectors that wont fit inside the frame. but loving it.
How is the light holding up? I was thinking of getting one.
Thanks for supplying a round about answer to a question that I asked Magicshine about this light and all I got was "Crickets". I asked if this light had a thermal protection switch just like all the other high end lights did such a Lupines. With lupines you cant run their light on max brightness in on hot days for too long before the thermal protection limits the brightness in order to protect the lamp. What they are calling a flood beam (the center lamp) is actually a cut off beam lamp. The way you have it mounted casts the beam way too tall. That center beam is meant to limit light dazzle for road type riding or areas where you have oncoming traffic..pedestrians, cars or other bikes. Angel it down more and you will see what I mean. When angled properly the center then does become a flood with i nice cutoff beam pattern. Personally I believe this light is a decent product but it was meant to compete with Lupines and they just missed the mark and overdid all of it. I dont think it has near the quality of the beams for all the various uses. But, they put a lot of cash into it and needed to get a return on that so here it is as a MTB light and not so much as a road use light also as they had first marketed it to be.
That is hilariously bright! Reminds me of my dad's old light that had an external battery shaped like a bottle to fit in a bottle cage.
Those were the Gen 1 Niterider. Not bright at all by today’s standards and only ran on high for 15 min or so. In its day it was the pinnacle.
Night Sun, I had one of those water bottles batteries. One of the best options back in the day.❣️💥
Could always put your garmin on the top of the stem as a spacer. I have the MJ900/906 combo and they rock for night riding on the trails.. I have been looking at this but want something like the exposure without a pack.
I have the Monteer 8000s v2 and use a lightweight Fenix 3000lm battery integrated torch on the helmet to see everywhere i look. I think it´s a better and cheaper solution than the Monteer 12000
Thank You! :)
I've been riding with the 6500 gen 1 on my road bike for a coupe years, at no point have I ever thought that I need more light, however I know I'll end up getting this light for at least my mountain bike at some point lol
Thanks for review. You have battery strapped wrong and why they are too long. You need to run the straps around the battery and frame. You will little excess.
I have a monteer 3500 that i live but a short circuit in head unit caused battery to short and cut off light until its reset with another baytery pack. There is a design flaw in motherboard and i cant trust magicshine. Does anyone know if v2 monteer address the issue?
Great review Clint, I have run helmet 🪖 mounted lights in the past. In Seattle they were great because many of our trails were heavily forested and having a helmet mounted light allowed you to glance left and right to see you know what was coming up. Now that I'm in eastern Utah, I'm doing a ton more gravel rides and we just don't have the number of trees that they have their I'm in a high valley about 5,600 ft and I don't really get up into steady trees until I'm at 7500 to 8000 ft. But what we do have during summer are these big ass Beatles and they love to track the light couple years back I was bombing down a hill with some friends and I had the helmet light on and one of these Beatles I could see it coming I was doing 45 mph down this 2 mi downhill and I could see this thing coming and I move my head and it moved and it smacked me so hard in the glasses I had to stop for a couple minutes I mean I ended up with basically a black eye the next day.
That was the last time I used the helmet light out here. These beetles are about 3/4" and hard shell.👁️
I’ve never liked the Beatles…but that’s crazy.
@ClintGibbs 🤣
Can you flip the light mount so the light is below the bar and run the Garmin mount above it?
No. The bracket gets in the way of the actual mount where it clamps onto the handlebars.
You actually can they make brackets for it from what I’ve seen I don’t have mine yet still waiting on it to come in
"I'm going to do this review with the light on the bike since that's probably how you'll use a bike light" - LOL. You had me laughing several times in this one.
Most people underestimate the speed of my e bike. They pull out in front of me. With the Monteer it gets their attention every time
Hi there. Fanstastic review. Could you please tell me how long the cable is that goes from the headlight to the battery? I have a large e bike Toni don’t know if it’ll be long enough. Also what does the connection to the light look it. Thanks a million. Steve
Actually gave this light to someone so I don’t have it with me anymore, but I recall correctly the cord was plenty along. So long that I had to wrap it around the top tube to take up the extra slack. As far as the connection, it’s a Three prong triangle shaped connector that’s very secure
Pretty much the best light on the market. Even though I think it's a bit overkill for gravel riding.
Seems like the 8000 is the best choice.
Right. More versatile and really not all that much dimmer
look into outbound
Trail Evo Was awesome,.never seen the point of a narrow helmet light like the hangover... swapped it for a cheap wide beam Infun GT200 light.
Their upcomming Portal light looks like a worthy helmet light.
With that said I know rock automotive light pods... Baja S1 WA ambers on helmet,. morimoto 2 banger wide fogs for bars
Can it be mounted upside-down? So the garmin mount can be positioned above it.
Just saw the other comment 😁
Surprised the high mode didn't set that Spanish Moss on fire
Подскажите пожалуйста, сколько он держит в турбо режиме 12000. Нигде не могу найти графики реальной яркости и времени
As I said at 7:16 in the video, it’s a claimed 2.5 hours on high.
That beam pattern would annoy me almost as much as that giant battery pack. 🤣
Awesome
Do not buy this light. I have the 8000 and it can't be trusted and has failed me continuously. Cheap cables will not hold up to any outdoor pursuit. Avoid and save yourself the headache, missed rides and getting stranded in the dark.
Wow.. bright lights are getting cheap, and cheap lights are getting bright! Compared to what lights used to be, insane!
Yeah, I remember back in the day when 1,000 lumens was “insanely bright”
I want this for road and recreation but it's not for that 😂 it would be a selfish decision to ride in public with a light of this magnitude
Some Car headlights aren't that good
All cars