What matters when you're building a rocket engine: if flames come out where they're supposed to, its working if flames come out where they're not supposed to, revert to V.A.B.
Dear SpikeViper I've been playin this game for yeeaars, and I want you to try something. Put a small-medium sized black hole. Open the console and type: !set tmp bhol 999999999 (9x9's, and remember to have Newtonian Gravity ON) Now enjoy a hyper realitic black hole ma man
Then you have to make it like a real rocket engine. How do you think the get fuel to the ignition chamber irl? Until recently it worked by using part of the ignited fuel to power a turbine that pulls in more fuel to be ignited.
The new way of getting fuel to the engine now is to have the turbine in the path of the ignited fuel rather than it being separate. I forgot why it wasn't like this in the first place but there must've been a good reason considering how hard making a rocket engine irl is.
Ignition doesn't take place in the bell, it takes place in the combustion chamber above it. God I can't wait to be done with work so I can try this myself...
This is what I was screaming the entire time. Tried it myself, and figured out that you can indeed mix hydrogen and oxygen, ignite it in a chamber, and have it produce thrust out a nozzle, but the hard part is getting a stable flame.
Btw acid is also an oxidizer that actually lights fuels on fire by itself. Also if you want to use oxygen, use hydrogen as a fuel. Edit: He actually starts using hydrogen in the end, good job me.
@@scottwashere4047 theres actually an irl concept called the nuclear saltwater rocket that uses a constant nuclear explosion to propel a ship, scott manley has a pretty good video on it
If things could bend, you could create a reed valve, a reed valve lets fluid flow through one as a vacuum is on the other side, then when it ignites, the heat creates a vacuum on the side where the fluid comes from, so it closes the valve until the ignition is complete. It’s what they use in 2-stroke engines so you don’t get exhaust gasses in the intake
My ONLY problem with this... is that it doesn’t have a starter (you could use pcln, pscn and nscn)to reduce the number of times you need to redesign things because the first design could have worked with a start and stop button.
Mort actually doesn't burn. Its a particle that acts kinda like a photon when it comes to its movement and it just creates smoke. If the smoke is heated it will turn to fire.
@@freakatron-3000 it was the same as in the video they used a lot of money and scrap alot of prototypes for the rockets now a days it's nothing compared to the firsts ever working one there where about 57 different rocket engine prototypes which as always is not cheap at all
Your engine appears to be experiencing backflow in the engine bell. Ya' might wanna address that. Also, I don't quite understand the purpose of the space between the ignition point and the engine bell, and I'm starting to suspect that you don't know the purpose of an engine bell.
seriously I've been watching this for 3 minutes now and I can already tell from all the "yeah, I actually knew that was gonna happen" that he has no clue, and maybe a slight problem with trying to look smart to children. Personally I have absolutely no clue what he's trying to do I'm not a rocket scientist, but anyone could spot this bull from miles away.
Between the chamber and fuel tank pipes is a sheet of steel that has hundreds of pairs of little holes that shoot the propellant and oxygen in an angle. So they mix and dont just fly out or create an imbalance in pressure inside the bell wich can damage it. Also, the bells both ends should have a width ratio of at least 1/70 depending on the type. Also, the pressure inside the combustion chamber can reach 300 bars and the exhaust speed can be up to mach 11 You should add kerosene and alcohol. They work really well as rocket Fuel.
I'm no rocket scientist, but I think after the gases mix they need to be shoved down a narrow tube where they are ignited and funnel the flame outside. Letting the gases expand before ignition is probably detrimental to the power you are getting here
Hey spike, when you have water vapor as a by product (combusting hydrogen and oxygen), you can add liquid rubidium to the mix to auto ignite the rocket.
Youre not supposed to vent the feed pressure, in fact youre supposed to increase it as high as you can, for example with a staged combustion cycle, or turbo pumps
Try to make a thermite cannon. It would fire by c4 that is constantly exploding and being cloned repeatedly, any that would force pressure out the barrel firing cloned thermite at whatever is in front of the barrel. Maybe you could test it on a planet or a city.
@@mynicknameislion1385 ... oxygen is LITERALLY an oxidizer. If you magically make a fire in a pure oxygen environment, (like you do in powder toy) it WILL ignite.
@@xEclipse56x oops mistake replace "amateur" with "armchair" but If I did then probs electric or open cycle ethanol and something it's hypergolic with (Not pure ethanol)
5:58 "they said it could not be done" "they said i could not make it more smaller and more accurate" "they said it was designed for tanks" "they where wrong" *gets upvotes*
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What matters when you're building a rocket engine:
if flames come out where they're supposed to, its working
if flames come out where they're not supposed to, revert to V.A.B.
Nah revert flight. And then see if we can deep fry kerbals.
Mass relay from kerbin to eloo
Don't forget about the thrust.
@@heartofiron2251 nah those guys have such a strong body they can survive reentry
@@heartofiron2251 YES HELLO FELLOW KERBAL
Dear SpikeViper
I've been playin this game for yeeaars, and I want you to try something.
Put a small-medium sized black hole.
Open the console and type:
!set tmp bhol 999999999
(9x9's, and remember to have Newtonian Gravity ON)
Now enjoy a hyper realitic black hole ma man
Wowie
Thanks bro
I wish spike viper can see this
Actually one question:
Black holes pulls object slower so try use something
huh
Challenge: no clone directly in the thing, only certain amounts can go in at a time
Then you have to make it like a real rocket engine. How do you think the get fuel to the ignition chamber irl? Until recently it worked by using part of the ignited fuel to power a turbine that pulls in more fuel to be ignited.
The new way of getting fuel to the engine now is to have the turbine in the path of the ignited fuel rather than it being separate. I forgot why it wasn't like this in the first place but there must've been a good reason considering how hard making a rocket engine irl is.
@@33korki77 yes, that was his point.
Ignition doesn't take place in the bell, it takes place in the combustion chamber above it. God I can't wait to be done with work so I can try this myself...
This is what I was screaming the entire time. Tried it myself, and figured out that you can indeed mix hydrogen and oxygen, ignite it in a chamber, and have it produce thrust out a nozzle, but the hard part is getting a stable flame.
also oxygen is not flammable like this game suggests
@@LiveSeruio while you are correct, it does make other things easier to burn, and is consumed by the fire.
@@osirin1115 of course
@@osirin1115 but it can't burn on its own like in this game
Btw acid is also an oxidizer that actually lights fuels on fire by itself. Also if you want to use oxygen, use hydrogen as a fuel.
Edit: He actually starts using hydrogen in the end, good job me.
Also the fuel i naturally go is:
LOX,OIL or
LOX,NITR
@@superflypule4484 LOX DESL is the best combo. I mean, technically, LOX LRBD, but the rubodium just freezes :(
I just make deuterium rockets tbh
@@scottwashere4047 theres actually an irl concept called the nuclear saltwater rocket that uses a constant nuclear explosion to propel a ship, scott manley has a pretty good video on it
If things could bend, you could create a reed valve, a reed valve lets fluid flow through one as a vacuum is on the other side, then when it ignites, the heat creates a vacuum on the side where the fluid comes from, so it closes the valve until the ignition is complete. It’s what they use in 2-stroke engines so you don’t get exhaust gasses in the intake
I like how from the “The Powder Toy” genre automatic generated channel. It’s only Spike Viper xd
My ONLY problem with this... is that it doesn’t have a starter (you could use pcln, pscn and nscn)to reduce the number of times you need to redesign things because the first design could have worked with a start and stop button.
The best thing to do a rocket in TPT is to use MORT. It burns well and it seems to never run out.
Yeah MORT is bit annoying bc sometimes it lags
depends on how much you put. If you just do a small rocket, it will be fine, if you put too much, like other particles, the game will lag.
Yea MORT's a bit annoying coz he has a really voice-crackly voice and has a dickhead grandpa
what
Mort actually doesn't burn. Its a particle that acts kinda like a photon when it comes to its movement and it just creates smoke. If the smoke is heated it will turn to fire.
They need to mix, THEN compress, THEN combust.
Ahhh yes the 4 stages suck, squeeze, bang, blow.
@@Claymore200 pretty much.
That is a four stroke, not a rocket engine
@@averygoodfantasticname4206 those 4 work with jets too.
@@averygoodfantasticname4206also the Brayton cycle for jet engines
1:08
America: SPIKE GIVE US 1,000,000,000,000 OF THESE THINGS
Fuel for a rocket is liquid hydrogen, the oxygen is also liquid
omg watching this is driving me insane. COMPRESSION!!!!!
Actually that's a very expensive torch, there's no thrust coming out of that hahahaha
a very expensive torch that works in space i think
yeah it generates flames but the nozzle would not work because of flow separation
Yeah. I when i make rocket engines, i try to make my nozzle as realiatic as possible
imagine how expensive this would be irl with how many times he restarted
Thats called prototyping
@@Yokoto12343 i know, but is that cheap, I was saying it as if it were real-life, not a game
@@freakatron-3000 Someone had to do this in real life at some point...
@@freakatron-3000 prototypes arent cheap
@@freakatron-3000 it was the same as in the video they used a lot of money and scrap alot of prototypes for the rockets now a days it's nothing compared to the firsts ever working one there where about 57 different rocket engine prototypes which as always is not cheap at all
Your engine appears to be experiencing backflow in the engine bell. Ya' might wanna address that. Also, I don't quite understand the purpose of the space between the ignition point and the engine bell, and I'm starting to suspect that you don't know the purpose of an engine bell.
seriously I've been watching this for 3 minutes now and I can already tell from all the "yeah, I actually knew that was gonna happen" that he has no clue, and maybe a slight problem with trying to look smart to children. Personally I have absolutely no clue what he's trying to do I'm not a rocket scientist, but anyone could spot this bull from miles away.
In a classic rocket engine part of the rocket fuel is used to power a fan that pulls more fuel into the ignition chamber.
you got me to get the game myself! it's great.
it's free
Ikr
Between the chamber and fuel tank pipes is a sheet of steel that has hundreds of pairs of little holes that shoot the propellant and oxygen in an angle. So they mix and dont just fly out or create an imbalance in pressure inside the bell wich can damage it.
Also, the bells both ends should have a width ratio of at least 1/70 depending on the type.
Also, the pressure inside the combustion chamber can reach 300 bars and the exhaust speed can be up to mach 11
You should add kerosene and alcohol. They work really well as rocket Fuel.
I'm no rocket scientist, but I think after the gases mix they need to be shoved down a narrow tube where they are ignited and funnel the flame outside. Letting the gases expand before ignition is probably detrimental to the power you are getting here
Expansion is a critical point?
you should have made the volumes smaller so the pressure would increase
what? smaller amounts of fual = higher pressure? yeah nah
@@zh9664 think they mean
Smaller area and same mixture ratio and flow = higher pressure
Hey spike, when you have water vapor as a by product (combusting hydrogen and oxygen), you can add liquid rubidium to the mix to auto ignite the rocket.
The irony here is that you don't get water until it ignites
You need to make a full version of “our friend, insulation”
Never thought I would see TPT in youtube
One time I made a high-pressure hydrolox engine that needed to be pre-lit.
The LOX tank should be pressurized to maintain the LOX's liquid state
GOX is a thing that exists
Oh so you're whats started the TPT craze I've seen in virtual rocket scientists.
Make a plasma rocket engine
You know resist? It liquefies in neutrons and solidifies in photons but it disappears in electricity
It’s good to see the channel growing again (good work spike! :D)
If you launch incorrectly, then revert to launch. (56 sec’s ago)
Y e s
Diesel makes the engine very angry very quickly.
TIL rocket fuel is liquid oxygen mixed with... oil.
Hydrolox (hydrogen plus oxygen) is what the Space Shuttle used. There are many fuels.
If you made the are of which the oxidized and fuel funnel out smaller it would increase pressure outwards thus preventing backflow
Your combustion chamber never pressurized... probably need _tons_ more fuel and a much greater reduction before the nozzle
Youre not supposed to vent the feed pressure, in fact youre supposed to increase it as high as you can, for example with a staged combustion cycle, or turbo pumps
Rockets have catalyst packs that sprinkles the fuel and oxidizer and reduces the risk of igniting the tank
Crmc gets stronger under pressure so when you capped the rocket it just reinforced itself I think
17:05. Ahh yes.
Airflow in space.
It seems to be an atmospheric engine
OMG i used to watch ur vids like 4-5 years ago, now I’m scrolling through my homepage and I see you
Actually
They have a cooling mechanism
On the engine and it cools the metal and now it's safe to launch
its what we all wanted, a soap rocket
I like how it says more people commented than liked
This is now a false comment
@@Jowen2713 i know
How was this comment made 17 minutes ago but the video was made 12 minutes ago
@@watercat258 im god here, hahahahaha
@@watercat258 magic
I would watch if RUclips wasn’t down.
This is most underated game ever.
Fun fact according to fire cooler colors are hotter than warmer colors
Try to make a thermite cannon. It would fire by c4 that is constantly exploding and being cloned repeatedly, any that would force pressure out the barrel firing cloned thermite at whatever is in front of the barrel. Maybe you could test it on a planet or a city.
someone has to remix that insulation song
combine your gasses, then add a fuse at the bottom to auto spark
Look up rocket fuel injectors, it could be pretty neat in this.
YES FINALLY SOME GOOD TPT CONTENT
It was combustion thats why it went through the thingy
Rocket engine maybe try plasma engine.
didn’t he do that already?
I will not watch this because i watch the full live of this.
13:47
I know a lot about rockets... I don't think that's you do that..
Woooo go viper
Okay, i gotta ask, why is your oxygen flammable? Fire shouldn't backflow up the o2 supply without some source of fuel to follow
This is the stream
Nice video.
but oxygen isnt flamable but guess it is in this game
Fire REQUIRES oxygen.
@@nonsensicalhumanoid yes it also requires fuel without both there is no fire but in the powder toy oxygen can burn by itself
@@mynicknameislion1385 ... oxygen is LITERALLY an oxidizer. If you magically make a fire in a pure oxygen environment, (like you do in powder toy) it WILL ignite.
One tip: use LOx, then you can use liquid wall to stop backflow
SUE????
Yes i agree viper should do a lawsuit against liquid wall to stop backflow ☺️
@@1000-THR srry my figer is too thick for a small phone
Very cool!!!, but do you know how a rocket engine works : )
Spike use some electronics like heat switch it will block heat completely if not powered
And there is a wall that disappears when powered
do something with the in game stickmen and fighters
Рowder gaмe
@@Zioran_rus what
Should he attempt an ion engine?
As an amateur rocket scientist I was screaming words that probably make no sense to most people
Yo same. Pressure fed HTP & RP1 engine here. You?
@@xEclipse56x oops mistake replace "amateur" with "armchair" but If I did then probs electric or open cycle ethanol and something it's hypergolic with
(Not pure ethanol)
its supposed to combust in the combustion chamber
The Bernoulli cone should be tighter
Heat. Yes.
I respect that. 😔👊
Water is actual rocket fuel hydrogen and oxygen, that means you drink rocket fuel
No, it isn't. You need to use electrolysis to convert it into seperated hyrogen and oxygen.
@@nikkiofthevalley you are right but tecnically it is rocket fuel you just need to seperate them
@@yun_ique1 i guess
Or you can just be like the Soviets and basically use vodka
How do you make the lines and zoom in to the precision screen?
Shift and z
You should have put magnesium in it since you're making water and magnesium burns with water
I don't think there's magnesium.
It's rubidium.
5:58 "they said it could not be done"
"they said i could not make it more smaller and more accurate"
"they said it was designed for tanks"
"they where wrong"
*gets upvotes*
I got so mad when he said hydrogen rockets wouldn't be as efficient.
Diesel is basically jet fuel.
Pls make a lightsaber in The powder toy with pressured noble gas
You say polonium I say plutonium
Make the rocket engine controllable like an on and off switch
On my rocket engines i have a valve and somethimes i have a throttle thingy
@@superflypule4484 nice
*r o c k e t*
I ran a PPG reactor while watching this
Dont worry spiky dad!
Soap rocket!
the rocket is innuficient because the engine bell is too big
Can you make a THDR reactor please. It's EXTREMELY energetic
It will also explode instantly.
What is the difference between diesel and gasoline?
the oil side looks like shrek
This wouldn't happen if the oxygen wouldn't burn... Which it shouldn't do
Do an aero needle version
Try playing simplerockets 2 or kerbal space program
14:19 Me at 3 AM in my bed
How do I use line tool?
Why like not answer
Shift and left mouse button
hold shift and hold lmb
Shift+Drag
Only possible on pc
i may sound stupid here, but how do i use the line tool in the powder toy?
would be nice if time started
18:00: its a sprocket
Delaval engine, so make aerospike
two words: Tesla Valve
Make an ion thruster
Thermite rocket!