Which inking pens are marker proof & water proof?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
  • Which fine liner pens are alcohol marker and water proof? In this video I test a selection of different inking pens, fine liners and brush pens to see which ones are marker proof / marker resistant and also which are water proof / water resistant. The pens I test in this video are : Faber castell pitt pens, Sakura Pigma Micron pens, Uni-ball Pin Fine liner pens, Spectrum Noir art liners, Derwent Graphik line makers, Copic Multi Liner pens, Sharpie ultra fine point markers, Pilot G-2 07 pens, Kuretake Sumi brush pen No.8, Tombow Fudenosuke brush pens (hard and soft) and finally the Japan Platinum CFW - 300 double ended brush pen ( from the Wish app )
    So if you have ever found yourself searching for which pens are marker proof? or is X pen marker proof / water proof? then this video may be perfect for you! This video might also help you determine which inking pen is best to use.
    Let me know what other pens you want to see tested in the future, or if you want to let us know in the comments below which pens you have found to be marker and waterproof too, that would be great! I will be doing another video like this in the future but testing dipping inks.
    The paper I use in this video is the Strathmore Bristol Vellum.
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  • @samspade5800
    @samspade5800 3 года назад +39

    Thank you for testing waterpoof! Most reviews I've found leave it off entirely but that's all I really care about.
    I think it's worth noting with water colors that, while it will be up to personal preference, I'm not only looking for my lineart to hold up but for the watercolor to not become tinged with grey

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +4

      You're welcome. You make a really good point there! :) I think finding a waterproof pen is actually harder then finding a marker proof one as well.

  • @ivanias1165
    @ivanias1165 5 лет назад +40

    Thank you! With so many brands and limited budget it is hard to make a decision, since we don't get to compare them with each other like you just did. You are the hero that we needed! 😊

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  5 лет назад

      Thanks for watching Patricio! Yeah I always found it difficult myself, so figured I would test them out and hopefully help a few others out too. As you said though, there are so many different pens to choose from ! Thanks again for the lovely comment :D

  • @pixelchan385
    @pixelchan385 3 года назад +50

    Bully: jealous of drawing
    Bully: throws drawing in the water
    learningasidraw: im about to end this mans whole career

  • @scar3xcr0
    @scar3xcr0 2 года назад +8

    Thanks for doing this. Spent like an hour trying to find which markers are alcohol resistant. No where had the info. You are awesome 🙂

  • @Geemeel1
    @Geemeel1 3 года назад +2

    Wow what a great vid. SO helpful and thorough . Well done, thanks for the effort !! 💞

  • @GABGAB247
    @GABGAB247 3 года назад +7

    I literally needed this video. About to do a watercolor painting but wasn't sure if I should line with my Faber pitt pen or copic multi-line. Thank you!!!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +1

      You're welcome I'm so glad I could help! Good luck with the watercolor painting :)

  • @KabukiYoukai
    @KabukiYoukai 3 года назад +7

    You have saved me so much time, by doing this video. I greatly appreciate it!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +1

      You're welcome, really glad it helped!

  • @alexandriatownsend119
    @alexandriatownsend119 Год назад +1

    This video is exactly what I was hoping to find, great information.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад

      Really glad it was helpful thanks for watching!

  • @nicoladavies8878
    @nicoladavies8878 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this! Exactly what I was looking for 😊

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  5 месяцев назад +1

      you're welcome, really glad I could help!

  • @craftykat
    @craftykat Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for doing this! I was so unsure what sort of fine liners to buy.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад

      You're very welcome, really glad I could help!

  • @TheSurreptitiousSquirrelCabal
    @TheSurreptitiousSquirrelCabal 4 года назад +12

    I'm happily surprised the Pilot G-2 performed so well with W&N alcohol markers. I don't know if it's because the Pilot pen has a gel-based ink. I will definitely try them out! Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад +5

      Yeah I have got to admit I wasn't expecting it either. It's still one of the best alcohol marker proof pens I have used, it's just a shame that the ink flow isn't quite as good as other pens in terms of clogging up and such

    • @g43654
      @g43654 4 года назад +2

      I find the G2 horrible. It's wet, takes forever to dry, smudges like there's no tomorrow, blobs like crazy, bleeds through normal paper within seconds, too wide and uses up too much ink.

  • @marissadasilva3613
    @marissadasilva3613 3 года назад +1

    This was super helpful! Thank you!

  • @guenniwan
    @guenniwan Месяц назад +1

    It was helpful indeed! Thanks a lot!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Месяц назад

      Really glad it helped, thanks for watching!

  • @RachelRamey
    @RachelRamey 3 года назад +5

    The Sharpie is actually alcohol-based, so it's not surprising that one bled a good deal.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +2

      That makes sense then! I actually use them in a dragon drawing video and they blend pretty well, so that adds up too! Thanks for the info.

  • @simonpheasey3541
    @simonpheasey3541 Год назад +1

    Very helpful, much appreciated.

  • @miisunderstood
    @miisunderstood 4 года назад +2

    Super helpful, thanks for this! I've been looking for an alternative waterproof pen that isn't the Sharpie fineliner because it blobs too much when I stop drawing a line and tbh it doesn't feel nice to loosely draw with. Sucks that most of them bled with water but I just gotta keep looking for that perfect pen, I guess.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching! Once I have enough new pens like this I will try create another one in case we find that perfect pen :D

    • @ShaunakDe
      @ShaunakDe 3 года назад +3

      I usually use sigma micron pens on water-color paper and they do fine!

  • @sidekicklx2009
    @sidekicklx2009 4 года назад +11

    the Artistloft fineliners are completely waterproof as well, and they werent that expensive either, so they are good for watercolour artists. although you can place them underneath watercolour, i have noticed they dont like layering on top of watercolour, sadly. it is pretty easy for the text on the barrel/cap to wipe off so for that i recommend taping a small piece of paper with the size on it just in case before they have a chance to wipe off and then confuse you. as for alcohol ink, they sadly smudged with the markers I used. If youre on a budget, i would definitely recommend the artistlofts for watercolour and as a second pen the Pilot G2 for alcohol ink if youre really on a budget, as they are both really cheap and you can still get good quality from them

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the tip! Where do you purchase them from please? I would definitely like to try them out!

    • @sidekicklx2009
      @sidekicklx2009 4 года назад +1

      @@SketchedbySte i got mine at my local michaels! but they are also available on amazon if you dont live near one

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад

      @@sidekicklx2009 I am struggling to find them but I am in the UK so I am thinking maybe it's harder to get hold of over here :(

  • @waterdrop827
    @waterdrop827 3 года назад +1

    You are a Godsend! Thank you!!!

  • @klodybolduc
    @klodybolduc Год назад

    Thank you it was exactly what i was looking for and it also confirmed why i love the copic one so much. But hey I'm close behind with my fabercastell

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад +1

      Really glad the video helped! :D Thanks for watching!

  • @myselflovesyou12
    @myselflovesyou12 4 года назад +13

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you.

  • @plant2188
    @plant2188 Год назад +1

    Thank you so so much for this video!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад

      You're very welcome thanks for watching!

  • @artdiary1878
    @artdiary1878 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for making this video! I have a few water proof pens but they smudge alot when I use markers the black ink just blend along when I'm coloring. Recently I've been using papermate kilometrico and bic they also do well. Now I'm gonna buy the pilot G-2.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад

      You're very welcome! I haven't heard of the papermate kikometrico before is it an inking pen or more like a biro? Also do you mean it's good for watercolor or for markers sorry? Off to do some googling to see if I can get some!

    • @artdiary1878
      @artdiary1878 2 года назад

      @@SketchedbySte @Sketched by Ste Me neither. I only knew the kilometrico existed when I got it as a freebie from a sketchbook I bought. And yes, it is a biro. The black pen don't look too black though and I've only used them with highlighters and faber castell pitt artist brush pens. Haven't tried them with watercolors. I'm still worried about the pens smudging so I just don't go too crazy with coloring along the lines too much.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад

      @@artdiary1878 Thanks for letting me know, it's the white barrel ones right? I might try pick some up from the super market, if they are water proof or marker proof ( I will have to test them ) I wonder if the coloured versions are too, as I know the Pilot G-2 black is marker proof, and then I mistakenly bought a pack of 10 purple ones thinking they would be the same .. I was wrong XD

    • @artdiary1878
      @artdiary1878 2 года назад

      @@SketchedbySte Yes, but the ones that I got is in a black barrel. I think I'll smudge though (sweating intensifies) so I have to buy the Pilot G-2 soon. And what are you gonna do with the pack of purple pens lmao Are you gonna do line art with them?

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад

      @@artdiary1878 yeah I was thinking I will just use them for line art, but to be honest my hands smudge things so I don't think they will be ideal even for line art! I have basically just been using them as writing pens to take notes haha!

  • @hussainkanchwala6519
    @hussainkanchwala6519 4 года назад

    Can you try the steadler ones

  • @pttrtradingcards7478
    @pttrtradingcards7478 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video

  • @MsVanorak
    @MsVanorak 2 года назад +4

    Thanks but I want a black fineliner that DOES move with water - a lot - and dissolve out into chromatographic shades.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад +1

      what about using a water colour type pen, is that what you mean?

    • @MsVanorak
      @MsVanorak 2 года назад

      @@SketchedbySte No - i tried a Tombow and that just gives a grey scale. I got some Berol Handwriting and they go to colour separation when water is added but that is a roller ball nib so i can't get enough ink out at once. So i need something like Berol but with a fibre nib.

  • @ShaunakDe
    @ShaunakDe 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for this comparison - saved me from buying the Fudenosuke Brush Pen and being disappointed!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +1

      You're welcome thank you for watching

  • @templerose2471
    @templerose2471 2 года назад +1

    You are my hero!!!

  • @lx8591
    @lx8591 4 года назад +3

    I personally just got unipin fine liners and they smudge a lot.I ink a drawing and then i wait for like 10 mins to go color and i go with my skin tone it smudges so much its sooo bad

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад +2

      haha yeah, skin tone markers are always the worst for it to happen in too, always the hardest to cover up, ends up looking 'mucky' with black pen mixed in patches!

  • @fraizavlogs8455
    @fraizavlogs8455 Год назад

    I really needed this because I’m making a manga and need the best pens I can get

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад

      Glad I could help, how did you manga turn out ? :)

    • @fraizavlogs8455
      @fraizavlogs8455 Год назад

      @@SketchedbySte haven’t sketched it yet

  • @arissaj9321
    @arissaj9321 3 года назад

    THANK YOU SO MUCH YOUR THE BEST

  • @cristinafumagalli9876
    @cristinafumagalli9876 3 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @ro577
    @ro577 3 года назад

    Will this work on leather shoes? If i coat with a finisher??

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад

      Interesting question! and honestly it's something I have no experience with, maybe you could test it on an off cut of leather and wet it etc to check it works. If you do try it let me know as I would be interested in seeing the result!

  • @belamehta2966
    @belamehta2966 3 года назад +1

    Witch pens are best for making dinner set ? Thank you.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад

      what do you mean sorry?

    • @belamehta2966
      @belamehta2966 3 года назад +1

      Dear, i want to painting my dinner set. It's plain white. So I want to use marker pen for it. For making permanent i have to keep in oven for hit ?

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +1

      @@belamehta2966 I haven't actually tested any on a dinner set before, but I would think the sharpie markers would be your best option. And that way you wouldn't need to put it in the oven to set it or anything (I think)

  • @sunnymoondog
    @sunnymoondog Год назад

    The Tombow fude pens are definitely softer and harder than each other.

  • @ArtWars314
    @ArtWars314 3 года назад +2

    Are these all markers? Are there any that are ball point pens? thx for this

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад +1

      I'm not actually sure what you class these pens as (maybe someone else can help in the comments too) but I don't think any of them are what I would class as a ball point pen, I presume you mean like an office pen / bic biro? I would guess that some of these maybe water based, the G7 is quite an interesting one though especially to say it came out so well, it's closer to a ball point than the others. I would class the others as inking pens, but I guess there are sharpies in there, so maybe some are markers after all! Sorry this comment probably wasn't very helpful XD

    • @ArtWars314
      @ArtWars314 3 года назад

      @@SketchedbySte I mean literally a ball point pen is when the tip of the pen flows out ink with LITERALLY a BALL at the POINT of the pen. Watch here
      ruclips.net/video/DAlbDi-kDQo/видео.html
      Sharpies would be a marker since it's a FELT tip pen & there's no balls INVOLVED. all markers would be considered felt tip pens since there are no balls involved. You can look at a common office pen and you can actually see a ball rolling with ink at the tip of it ( use a magnify glass if you need to) thx anyways CHEERs♥♥

  • @dojesknocxxar2431
    @dojesknocxxar2431 2 года назад

    finally i got the video which i want

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад

      Really pleased it was helpful, thanks for watching :)

  • @disruptive_innovator
    @disruptive_innovator 3 года назад

    thanks for the science

  • @somayaart7564
    @somayaart7564 2 года назад +1

    I used the faber castell pitt artist brush pen _ ohuhu alcohol markers. it smudges terribly how come yours doesn't ?

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад +1

      Hmm that seems strange, what paper are you using? are you allowing your ink lines to dry before going over them with the alcohol markers / ohuhu?

    • @somayaart7564
      @somayaart7564 2 года назад +1

      @@SketchedbySte I tested it on thick watercolor paper. but I think the paper doesn't affect the smudge factor. it is strange I might bought a fake fabercastell brand ? I don't know lol it was from art store in montreal.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад +2

      @@somayaart7564 I wouldn't have thought the paper would effect the smudge factor too much, like you mentioned, but it might be worth testing ? ( you never know! ) Nah I doubt you have bought fakes I wouldn't worry about that especially from an art store ( I have a video I made where I tested some Sakura Micron fine liners from the Wish app and surprisingly they were even more marker proof than the original ones - crazy! ) Did you use the markers straight over the inking pen before it had time to dry maybe?

    • @somayaart7564
      @somayaart7564 2 года назад +1

      yes after they dry they act the same after couple days :/ Im frustrated I will try the uni pin fine liners and brush pen I saw them in video with ohuhu markers. so fingers crossed. ^^

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 года назад +2

      @@somayaart7564 Oh that is super annoying, a few days should be more than enough, hmm I will retest this at some point, keep me posted how you find the other inking pens with Ohuhu markers

  • @BushcraftEurope
    @BushcraftEurope 6 месяцев назад

    Tying sligshot bands on that board my man??

  • @NavyAng
    @NavyAng 3 года назад

    Aww you missed the Staedtler markers

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад

      Hmm I cannot picture the ones you mean? is that what they go by? I might do an updated list in the future with different pens to test, although it cost quite a lot to test these XD

  • @sunnymoondog
    @sunnymoondog Год назад

    Amazon sells counterfeit Tombow Fudenosuke pens. That might be one.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад

      Ah no kidding, I didn't know that. How do you find that kind of thing out and where would you advise purchasing Tombow Fudenosuke pens from instead? Thanks

    • @sunnymoondog
      @sunnymoondog Год назад +1

      Tokyo Pen Shop probably has them. She's very particular about what she stocks. Jet Pens is good. There are lots of quality pen suppliers, but those are the ones I use.

    • @sunnymoondog
      @sunnymoondog Год назад +1

      @@SketchedbySte I don't remember where I learned it from. I belong to a lot of Facebook pen groups where there's a lot of chatting about random stuff lol.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  Год назад

      @@sunnymoondog Thanks for letting me know I will take a look, unfortunately the shipping will probably be crazy high for people in the UK like me which is a shame

    • @sunnymoondog
      @sunnymoondog Год назад

      @@SketchedbySte yes, that's too bad. I'm sure there are UK suppliers too. Or you could just skip it. You found some pens that do a nice job.

  • @nekrozma
    @nekrozma 4 года назад

    it would be better with a colored alcohol marker

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад +5

      I figured the black smudges would show up better with a clear alcohol marker, where as colour would mask it a little bit. I can try using a colour marker next time I do a video like this though if people prefer though. Thanks for watching!

    • @yuckyskunk2021
      @yuckyskunk2021 3 года назад

      ​@@SketchedbySte yeah dont listen to that person they have no idea what theyre talking abt. u know how fkng frustrating it is that ppl keep tryina test these with colors? colors innately, obviously hide smudging/make it much harder to see.
      (edited summary for clarity: this reply is an elaboration and series of in-depth stress tests on the sumi no 8, and then a short review and some other info)
      anyways, if u use a colorless blender, ideally it should be literally invisible, so if its anything less then plain pure fkng paper, u fkng know.
      not the same for yellow, again, *obviously*. i dont wanna know if u can pass it off as not having smudged, i wanna know if it smudges.
      also to add to this, i picked up a kuretake sumi no. 8. got it juiced up, grabbed my ohuhu colorless blender (i recently switched to copics, so my ohuhu cb is basically scrapable, copics r so fkng choice mfg)
      so i did a 5 minute test, more "reasonably" with both yellow and the cb. the yellow appears to have taken on a tone; i used a yellow next to it for control (which im glad u did with the cb). then i did a cb over to the side for control, and it does dry invisible. i stopped using yellow after the five minute test cuz its as pointless as it looks on youtube.
      so, i did work it in, but not overly hard or making an effort to smudge it, and theres *almost* nothing, on a thin line.
      its more noticeable on the thick line, with what i initially described as a "hard heavy blend."
      ten minutes later and i was going in for the kill. i worked that shit so hard i was practically selling my body on the corner, and it smudged quite a bit, but i also wanna know, at what point, if any, is it 100% safe for any and all reasonable use without any chance of tinting the nib at all. cuz at this point im fairly certain i wont have issues with my art.
      i tried progressively harder at twenty and thirty minutes, and theyre the darkest smudges i have. i did actually fray the nib on the ohuhu doing so, altho thats prolly saying a bit abt ohuhus as well, but im not sure cuz id never go that hard on a copic, especially not on cheap paper with a texture (even if its fine). im using cheap ass "acid free 90g/m2" paper. when i went from canson XL to mixed media, only for sketching, the thinness made me nervous and it has an obvious warm tone to the pages. on the thirty minute one, i worked in so much ink that the underpage was still a fairly wet ten, fifteen minutes later. maybe even twenty. the 20 and 30 minute tests were over thick (but not super thick) lines. if u separate the strokes into S, M, L, and XL thicknesses, they were L.
      i just did the hour later test. i was pretty unforgiving and was very impressed with how long it took to start smudging at all. like, whatsoever. it was hard fast back-and-forths over S and M thickness lines. after the paper was pretty drenched tho, it created an environment where the smudgability (tm) exponentially increased, from smudgeable to immediately smudging. however, its more of a hue and i spent a while and distinctly remember thinking that i would never in a million years go over a line like that. i think, the point it started smudging was, if uve ever done a very very saturated, thick blend with a lot of ink, like the most blending ull rly ever do, for a long time, laying it on thick, pressured, and back and forth over a bigger area, at the top end of rare but fairly reasonable use, when it just starts to tip over to unreasonable use, right when it tips over to unreasonable use thats when it started smudging and then it smudged fairly easy but as its drying its actually surprisingly subtle.
      ill add another reply for the 2 hr test and the next day test. this was a lengthy post but for anyone considering the sumi no 8, i hope this is like, a very in-depth stress test and elaboration on the video for one specific brush pen, and can tell u exactly what to expect, how long to wait, etc. also i believe real-life speed is between .25x speed and .5x speed for the timelapse smudge test, so u can set the video to each of those and get an idea of how much blending he does in real time, etc.
      ive also heard deleter ink doesnt smudge, and ive seen someone empty and refill a kuretake ink cartridge with their own ink, and as a side review of the pen i love it. never had a brush pen before. some ppl have said u cant keep getting fine lines but they just need to work on their control. if u take ur time a bit, even after letting the pen sit for an hour, u can get what i assume r uni-pin-thin lines (a 4th to an 8th of a fairly thin sharpie line, and i was able to draw small shapes with it, and with the paper on my lap, far away from my face, at an unforgiving angle), consistently, and its objectively easy to get lines slightly thicker. if i were to use a uni-pin im pretty sure id fkng have to double or triple up every fkng line just for thin lines, and i like doing linework in one shot.
      finally, if u order from two different places, u can get the pen (comes with two cartridges) and then a pack of five cartridges for fifteen bucks total (us), off of amazon. u take off the cap, unscrew the pen, put a cartridge in with the tapered side up (so, u dont put the tapered side in), and u have to push it all the way in. that pops out a ball baring. cap it, shake it a lot, open it up, check it, cap it, shake it and repeat until the brush is totally saturated and then give it a little bit more and ur good.
      also, holy shit, as this is fully drying theres almost nothing there. it still has an obvious smudge (more like a dragged tint), and its still a tad bit wet (its been maybe 14 minutes i think, if that gives the stress-test perspective). i wouldnt call it nothing but its impressive and i didnt expect that. i thought it was dry earlier. im gonna end this post rn cuz i typed up a lot but hopefully its a pretty rich specific resource. this is the best alcohol marker ink smudge test ive seen so far btw, by a long shot. like i said im gonna add a separate reply for three hrs and a day. im guessing the three hr one is gonna be good enough for me to be very comfortable with it, which is saying a lot cuz i dont even wanna chance messing up the nibs even if its just aesthetic.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  3 года назад

      @@yuckyskunk2021 Wow thanks for the informative reply! I actually have another video where I test dipping inks, you reminded me of it when you mentioned deleter ink, although funnily enough I don't think I used the deleter inks in that video ( I forgot I had them! ) But I know I definitely have 2 different deleter inks that are marker proof, one of them in particular is very good, but dries extremely glossy which isn't ideal for me.
      Here is a link to that other video if you are interested, it's been a while so I can't even remember what the results are myself! - ruclips.net/video/q0JPkyIcSMk/видео.html

    • @yuckyskunk2021
      @yuckyskunk2021 3 года назад

      ​ @learningasidraw nice! also i just came back here to post results abt a test after 24 hrs. i (initially) only tested over thick lines to get a more definitive result (if it smudges *at all*). at first i thought it became totally smudgeproof, but it started smudging.
      i inverted the nib, so i could see if more typical use would stain the nib. cuz also, if it stains, that prolly means theres something else left over in the nib. i did also do up a piece the other day n didnt wait too long for the kuretake to dry (an hour tops [didnt time it] before any blending at all, but i guess it wound up closer to two hrs for the rest of the piece)
      so, i went over the end of a 24hr-dried thick line a couple times with the totally clean side of the nib. i brushed back and forth then (only a couple times n not hard, no intense blending) for some good measure testing. i picked a couple other spots n ran the border between the clean page n the dried ink. then i went back to the original spot and blended, mostly outside of the ink spot, but occassionally ran over the ink a bit (so, realistic use if ur being mindful of the lines), n then did some spot areas where i blended a bit on a dry line (like if u had a tiny area in between lines to cover n blend out, but did it carefully n as sparcely as possible).
      the nib is for sure stained, n any of those tiny areas make a very noticeable stain on the tip right away. like 7-13 small area blend strokes (like if u were blending two parts of a tiny circle together with strokes). it was ON the ink, but thats not too far from what happens.
      i also took the totally-clean chisel nib, n ran over the whole big area (it was a big varied inked fontwork "Kuretake") several times without hitting the same spots much at all. theres a noticeable very very subtle hue but no obvious smudging at all. there was and is a stain on the chisel side too, but i wanted to see if i could clean it off. which worked well, but i couldnt get all of it off, n thats on the chisel so its easy to wipe off most of the surface, n i dont care to use that much copic ink.
      i just went over some S lines/some lines that r basically practically as small as the kuretake reasonably draws
      i blended out, over several areas, moving to fresh areas of the text after a decent blend amt. it did stain the tip a bit more, then i went to the side of the brush. to see if thered be a fresh stain on the side of the brush tip. i did a good bit of work but not too much over any one area, n either its cleaner now than it was before or the ink migrated to the inside of the brush tip, i cant tell. theres almost nothing on the outside anymore n only a faint bit of discoloration inside the tip of the nib, instead of outside. i was surprised at how clean it was.
      if it travels up the nib, thats rly bad. if that was already there, but just using the brush nib, even over lines, will clean it out, then thats rly good.
      i moved to a new piece of paper, n did a blend (again all these blends r mock blends, muscle memory/technique/etc. with a colorless blender to replicate the effect of a blend). the ink migrated (back?) to the tip. yeah i just checked, it looks like it recedes a bit when u let the marker sit, but comes back out when u blend. i just colored in n fully saturated what would be a fairly large area, n now theres obvious ink throughout the tip.
      im guessing i should definitely not be using copics over this ink. it looks like it can taint the whole marker very easily, n the ink never leaves the nib. it just accumulates n goes into the marker i think. it might be subtle, but im assuming theres a chance itll kill ur markers over time. also, even to ppl that cant notice it, copics have lots of undertones. i think it might muddy ur colors, which would gradually amt to every color u have not looking pure n having improper undertones.
      prolly gonna get a copic multiliner, even tho it sorta looks like it smudged, but the kuretake doesnt. this *is* with an ohuhu but im not chancing that at all. in general alcohol markers use, basically a wicking system, n i dont want to wick non-copic/third party ink into a copic marker, or fuck the colors up, even if its so subtle u might not notice it, cuz its gonna make a difference.
      ive also heard graphite is bad, even if u erase it, cuz theres bound to be *some* graphite left, which will accumulate. not using pencils n pens with copics is ridiculous tho, cuz after trying it, theyre almost necessary. i used to use a yellow ohuhu to sketch, n thats super frustrating cuz u have thick, nonspecific, barely-visible linework, n u cant erase or correct or shape ur drawing, etc. plus the color yellow blends into everything, even if its hard to see.
      the end of the nib that i put into the ohuhu when i flipped the brush nib, is still very stained. actually it looks *more* stained than it did before. granted copics wicking is for sure much better, n who knows what that means as far as contaminates etc. (if their wicking doesnt tend to suck stuff up, for example, cuz different wicking materials have different capillary action, etc.)...
      then theres the idea that ur never, ever supposed to use copics with colored pencil, cuz they react and fuck up ur marker, but tons of ppl do, even if they know that, n i never hear those ppl go "hey, my copic just permanently died."
      altho i did see a video once, of a person whose entire marker, inside n out/nib, the wick n every single internal part, was badly crystallized, n i wonder if it was something like this. the marker was unsalvagable, so they cut it open for science, n all the internals were covered in crystals.
      it was only one marker but still i dont wanna fuck with that. it was also a dark color, which i found myself using most often to go right up to/slightly over the linework, in my blends, etc.
      this is also on shit paper btw, its a "wonder&weiss" 90g/m2 "premium sketch pad," that was 3.99 usd for 160 sheets. its textured, n when i first got it, compared to say canson XL mixed media paper, my first thought was "this is thin ass dog shit." i mean like, i was only using it for sketching at first (pencils), but even tho ive gotten used to it, my initial thoughts were that it was surprisingly shit. however, even if part of it is the papers fault, i feel like it gives a more accurate result cuz tests r short-term, but the quality of the paper n the ohuhu could exaggerate effects that do still happen on copic paper with copics, just less obviously.
      the weird thing is, in ur video, i swear i can clearly see that the copic multiliner smudged a tiny bit. however, their ink may be formulated to not taint their copics.
      if the multiliner sp brush is also copic-proof, im prolly gonna grab one of those, some refills and a spare nib. it was $15 for the kuretake n the refills, so its not too big of a price discrepency, but after trying out copic paper the other day i just fkng trust the copic brand. like, a lot, which i never expected, especially not to this extent. but with this medium, copic constantly surpasses my expectations to extremes (which were already high, and then higher when i got the markers that wildly surpassed my expectations, and they were wildly surpassed again with the paper, which is crazy). i got a 5x7 copic sketchbook ("copic paper selections"), n especially paired with the copics the quality is so fkng good its surreal. they synergize so well that the medium doesnt even have any similarities to markers any more. i "saved money" with a kuretake (altho that wasnt my intent), but im gonna get the copic one anyways so instead of buying a multiliner sp, im buying a multiliner sp *and* the kuretake. copic is undoubtedly the most trustworthy brand ive ever experienced.
      so theres the rest of the tests n then some, n a thorough analysis, including one abt cost. if someone reading this is happy with ohuhus or another disposable marker, who cares, the kuretake works. if u care a lot abt ur copics, n u know how consistently dope their products r, n how much of a difference there is between their stuff n anything else, i mean i personally am gonna go with a brand that consistently delivers harder than i thought was possible.

  • @Oozaru85
    @Oozaru85 9 месяцев назад

    No Winsor & Newton Pigment Liners? Meh.

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  9 месяцев назад

      ha, sorry I only had so many pens to try, there are a lot out there! I will try to add them to the next one

    • @yashma9275
      @yashma9275 9 месяцев назад

      I believe, they weren't a thing when this video came out. It's a fairly new product.
      Either way, video is super helpful and has a lot of brands besides w&n

    • @Oozaru85
      @Oozaru85 9 месяцев назад

      @@SketchedbySte Its fine. I got them and they work great with both watercolors and alcohol markers. Funny story; I bought one liner on Amazon for €3.50. And Amazon sent me a pack of 20 of them, lol. Now I have 20 W&N Pigment Liners (Sepia) worth over €70, for just €3.50. Didn't report it tho, since the Amazon page doesn't say it's one piece, and the price says €3.50 (€0.18/piece), so it seems they really sold them for €0.18 a piece without realizing or something. Well, I'm gonna keep them, since I technically did buy 20 pieces for €3.50, lol. Not my fault someone made a booboo there.

  • @sissybutlerses7069
    @sissybutlerses7069 2 месяца назад

    OMG!!! You did a FANTASTIC job Sir in this video! I wonder if you would be interested in doing a recent or updated video on this!!?
    I also think you were spot on with your testing too!
    Great video!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  2 месяца назад

      Hey, thank you for the kind comment, really glad I could help. I would certainly be up for doing another one in the near future yeah, I might need suggestions of which pens to try though, and enough time to build up a collection of them to try XD

  • @stestestellina
    @stestestellina 4 года назад

    Thank you! This was very useful!

    • @SketchedbySte
      @SketchedbySte  4 года назад

      You're welcome, thanks for watching!