Zuzana 2 155mm: How Slovakia’s Heavy Artillery Deploys
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:09 - Zuzana 2 Specifications
6:21 - Slovak Artillery Battalion & Battery
8:38 - eFP Latvia Artillery Group
9:11 - Artillery Expansion Plans
Sources:
On Unit Organization:
• Unclassified unit organization sheet made for EFP Latvia 22-02
• 21shdo.mil.sk/30527/
• Consultation with Slovak artillery veteran
• watch/?v=540...
On Zuzana 2 specifications:
• kotadef.sk/projekty/zuzana/?l...
On Artillery Expansion Plans:
• www.mosr.sk/obrana-112022/ "Náčelník delostrelectva Ozbrojených síl SR, plukovník Roman Bobaľ: Delostrelectvo posilňuje" (November 2022) page 16
• www.janes.com/defence-news/ne...
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Awesome!
The zumalt class Destroyer had a unique 155 gun can you cover this and its possible application on other platforms as its fate seems to be tied to the Destroyer ATM
Hello. Nice to see video about our brothers Slovaks. As Czech I have question. Will you do similar video about Czech armed forces? It would be interesting tho idk if you ever planned to do it.
@@V.B.Squire Never been a Navy guy
@@BattleOrderHere's a short as there's not much on the Guns specifically or why they can't be developed separately from the Zumalt Project.
T&P Cappy did a good one on the zumalt as a class but I don't think anyones done a full video on the gun specifically you could be the first.
If its as good as they say and they've already done the R&D it should be rolled out across
ruclips.net/video/xgzFVnhzACw/видео.htmlsi=3MFE8IfdYeEzYnLZ
I think the biggest argument in favour of the Zuzana 2 is that it is very cool looking.
Can't argue with that
@@BattleOrder I can already imagine air defence version of Zuzana with Italian 76mm for return of legendary Ottomatic in eastern flavore.
@@aleksaradojicic8114Czechnology already did that, check out STROP II or it's Slovak version BRAMS. They are beauties as far as I can say.
@@aleksaradojicic8114 wait until you hear about STROP II 😅
@aleksaradojicic8114 Which would be turned into the most upsetting form of artillery by some people in some parts of Eastern Europe currently at war.
🇸🇰🇸🇰🇸🇰SLOVAKIA MENTIONED 🇸🇰🇸🇰🇸🇰
LITERALLY
very welcome surprise
HOLY SHIT, IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING *SLOVAKIA* REFERENCE?!?!?!?
Hell yeah, bratia
Based, as a Balkaner I give Slovakia honorary Balkan status.
Vidime sa na namesti!
1:48 caught me off guard, I’m rolling on the floor
I am speed!
literally came to write those exact words lol
Can you even imagine how fast I am? XD
mo powa baby!!! :D
As a Slovak, im happy to see someone sees some good in our militiary equipment, good video!
One of the finalists in the competition for the Brazilian Army's new wheeled howitzer. I root for him.
Dokonce lepší než tvých českých braťů, aspoň než vyjde DITA
Slovak here, I absolutely love that this video exists, I've always wondered what is the structure of our artillery regiments because we, sadly dont have much else
A strength of NATO is that many members can specialize. The French have lots of light and fast units, the Dutch and Canadians are excellent submarine-hunters, the British have excellent heavy infantry, and so on.
If the Slovaks specialize into the eastern NATO artillery park, then y'all can be 'those guys we call when we need something obliterated'. That's not a bad thing.
Nicely said @@cracklingvoice
@@cracklingvoiceNATO does not have a strong point. Slovaks not NATO. We were dragged there by politicians bought by NATO. Keep that in mind.
@@slovienjano2594 Eh, except NATO doesn't work that way. The politicians may have wanted it, but there was also a general vote that required actual votes from real people. Nice try, vatnik.
As I can see you are from Slovakia your comment is exactly what is your brain be happy you can walk free in the streets and not talking othe language ,our grandfather's lost a lives for this luxury
How old r you 15 ?
Fun fact about the mentioned Rocket Artilelry Battalion - Our RM70s can hot-swap their 40x122mm rocket pods with HIMARS 6x227mm missile pods. So theoretically, it is capable of firing GMLRS.
Theoretically, there was an intentios to adapt MODULAR to fire GMLRS, but it never happen due to budget cuts. It was adapt to fire M26 only wich is no more part of inventory of Slovak armed forces.
Isn't the RM70 czech?
Made in Slovakia, former part of Czechoslovakia
@@lukaskowalski5378 In Dubnica nad Váhom
លោក , @@Oggylv1
Not the kind of video we're used to but it's still a very welcome surprise.
Yea, cuz they never talk about vehicles 🙃
USA desperately looks for a replacement for Ukraine.
Nice profile pic dude
I like this new video setup
Polish toilet cleaner😂😂😂
"Aligator, similar to VBL but uglier" 🤣😂😅 That took me down
And to begin with- VBL is not good looking.
In war is not the matter a issue of beauty contest! You need one useful tool !
“Toke” you down! *took.
that was a funny quip
but the fron really looks like an aligator !
It looks like they are organizing the batteries for sustained combat with solid logistics and OP. I’m surprised they don’t have recovery and maintenance assets with that much heavy equipment.
It varies country to country whether maintenance is organic to the battery. In the U.S. the maintenance teams are attached from the forward support company rather than organic to the batteries for example. In the Slovak case it's in the battalion HQ, and for EFP Latvia the battle group was supported by a Multinational CSS Company that included a mainly Canadian maintenance platoon for recovery
I do not think lot has changed. But in Slovak armed forces,crew should know how to repair basic failures of the gun, doing standard maintanace and take care of the gun. We call repair team only, if the damage or failure is higher then our capabilities to fix it. This is taken from the past, Warsav pact, Soviet union, crews have been trained this way.
We do have TATRA T815 AV-15 RECOVERY VEHICLE on same body, or new TATRA T815-7 MAMUT...
I liked a group of these guns traveling together on the freeway, As well as getting off at a freeway exit together to get fuel.
@8:00 Damn, what did the Alligator ever do to you! 😄
It's not that the Aligator is ugly, it's just that we make much prettier gear :) VBL is really cool looking for what it is
About mobility in terrain yes tracked SPG will be better in this, but guys remeber this thing has Tatra Truckes chassis one of the best in world, for whom terrain isnt much big problem.
correction - the best in terrain. 😎
Unless it's the Russian military we're speaking I assume militaries choose their toys for a good reason. From what can I think of, a handful of tracked vehicles are more of a maintainance hassle than the same number of wheeled ones. If you still insist to make all of your 155mm SPH run on tracks and have thick shrapnel-resistant armor, you either already have thousands of tracked vehicles like USA or Russia, or you are a pervert like South Korea. Whenever the K-9 loses on bids for acquisition programs in other countries, the winners are wheeled armored gun trucks like the French Caesar, and they just want to buy *only* a low dozens of them. Which makes their decision totally understandable and practical.
@@knpark2025 norwegians, estonians or fins went with tracked spg instead of wheeled
"Tatra nezná bratra" or "Tatra knows no brother"... brother here meaning no equal in terms of off-road capabilities.
@@Wanys123 tak tak, az na veky Amen !
"If you have a gun, put in on wheels. If you have wheels, mount a gun on it." - A South Korean meme
Nice truck.
As a slovak thanks
And you get the benefit of never having a dispute at the petrol pump when people get unruly. 😊
During the 1990s, a tracked chassis version of the Zuzana known as the *Himalaya* was offered for export customers. The Himalaya is essentially a Zuzana turret mounted on a T-72 chassis. Although a few evaluations units were built, the Himalaya never received any orders.
Since Ukraine has ordered a total of 50 DANA / Zuzana howitzers and currently has around 500 to 600 T-72 tanks, a revival of the Himalaya concept combining the DANA / Zuzana turret with the T-72 chassis would be an interesting self-propelled artillery option for the Ukrainian Ground Forces, especially during the _rasputitsa_ mud seasons.
It may be but there are buts,.. if you have at least decent road network, whit 40km fire range you can enjoy movement speed and range of wheeled artilery whit no drawnbacs, you just go in, fire salvo (Zuzana can shoot two shells which fal on target at same time, altrouth not max range) and get out before getting hit by return fire. so as long Tatra can make enouth 8x8 chasis there is no point mounting it on tank chasis.
She's really majestic.
I was deployed alongside the Slovakian Zuzana battery in Latvia as part of NATO's EFP and back then they had major issues with the loading system. It failed a lot of times and they had to manually load the thing. They acknowledged the problems and are fixing the issue.
You also forgot to mention the Slovenian artillery unit (3x 155mm towed howitzers) attached to the Latvian artillery group.
The Slovenian artillery unit was part of a different cycle than the one discussed
Oh, was it the older Zuzana vz. 2000 or this newer Zuzana 2?
Preto zlyhalav uzaver lebo ste casto strielali slepe naboje smerom na rusku hranicu 🤦🏼♂️
@@peckar6233Pravda, škoda špiniť hlaveň slepými, na ruSSoch mali ostré streľby trénovať.
@@MarioSlezak velmi silne slova od statu ktory ma v zbane ledva 15 000 vojakov a bez letecva 🤦🏼♂️ ale co aa da ocakavat od noekoho co pise ruSSoch 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Babe wake up, new Battle Order video just dropped.
how could she sleep ... sheeeesh
There is a small mistake on 9:30 Slovaks using RM-70 MODULAR which is Slovaks version of M270 MLRS something like HIMARS, and in video on picture is old RM-70 which has old Grad rocket launcher.
Imagine a bunch of wheeled SPGs cruising the New Jersey Turnpike then exiting into a travel plaza to fill up the fuel tanks. Hopefully they would have EZPass.
One mistake there. The rocket artillery doesnt use RM70/85 but RM70 Modular which is an interesting platform able to fire both legacy soviet 122mm and NATO 227mm with significant upgrade potential.
The 5th Artillery Regiment's site at least calls it the RM vz. 70/85 Modular which I guess is where the confusion was: 5dp.mil.sk/888/
It is true, 54rmo uses RM70/85 Modular
Btw the EVA howitzer you mention in the end is supposed to be read /EY-vah/. Basically all products of the Czechoslovak artilery traditions after DANA are named using female names (that are sometimes supposed to be acronyms) - so you get Dana, then Konštrukta came up with Zuzanas's, Eva and there is a project called Bia too (which as far as my knowledge of female Slovak names and their familiar versions is not an actual name, it just sounds a bit like one, while in Czechia Excalibur Army and the whole CSG concern (aptly called Czechoslovak Group, milking our latent Czechoslovakism yet again) focused on the Dana upgrades and then later the Dita and Morana (which is the name of the female Slavic death diety btw). All female names and I personally like the scheme - imagine Americans calling their new tank Avril or something :D
Avril is Canadian. Americans would have Taylor or Beyonce.
@@zperdek oh well, here you are ruining my joke with facts! Cardi might sound even better :D
Bia is short for Bianka
@@gerythebobrica7623 Díky!
@@zperdek Just imagine a tank called Beyonce. Dear gods :D
Babe wake up, battle order posted
I just want the carrier truck, and a biggest sound system as a superstructure. This would be the best mobile rave vehicle world has ever seen.
As a Hungarian... damn, that is good tech the Slovaks have right there.
Hungarians don't say ''damn''.
Yeah, but rely on other countries to guard their sky 😂😂
@@Tovalokodonc
Unfortunately, you are right.
@@Tovalokodonc I think even with those shit MiG 29 we would be in same situation like without them
Indeed they do, but we also bought some Panzerhaubitze 2000s from the Germans, that's not half bad either. :)
I always liked the DANA and its successors. Thanks for this video.
We had a Battery of these supporting us as OpFor in Latvia on an exercise last summer!
Slovakia mentioned RAAAAAH 🇸🇰🇸🇰🇸🇰
My countries artiellry in youre video i cant believe my eyes. Big fan of battleOrder
Very nice and detailed video, thanks. Didn't know about the structure of the batteries
Big thank you !!! And I mean really BIG thank you !
Finaly some bigger channel reviewed our Zuzana 2. And you did it perfectly ! 😎👍
Gaijin would release this as a premium at 6.7
You have a beautiful technical piece.
Greetings from Romania 🇷🇴 to the brothers and sisters from Slovakia 🇸🇰
And you put Serbian flag 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@darkomiceski3755 Thx 🫣😁
Great video as always, however like I'd like to see more in-depth videos on kitchen, logistics, medical and artillery elements.
For those who like wheelded SPG check also DITA and MORANA its Czech Republic counterpart to Zuzana 2 and also developed from DANA.
Private ventures. No interest from Czech military.
DITA finished testing some months ago and is ready for serial production, with ExcaliburArmy CEO claiming they had an interested client(would assume either Ukraine or someone buying on their behalf; or possibly Indonesia, as EA saw several exports that way). MORANA was unveiled at 2022 Eurosatory and will see at least year of internal testing and subsequent modifications before it's ready to be produced.
DITA uses same gun as Zuzana 2000, MORANA same gun as Zuzana 2.
@@Wanys123 Czech military will buy it, but need fully finnish testing and now army buying more important things.
Do you mean copy of Zuzana 2000 with newer design?
@@segggy1 its not copy at all
Great edit, lots of information.
The breadth of coverage impresses, and good to see some truly lesser known nations and units discussed!
This is a very cool video! It's interesting seeing them fueling up. Does the military clear the station? Otherwise I think it'd be "interesting" being a civie and seeing those pull up.
nah its quite normal, Ive seen a few on the highways too
Incredible Vibe
Great Presentation
Always Need more Wheeled Art
Wargame players would know the Dana well. Eastern Block truck artillery is def interesting
In “practice,” how does it do against counter battery fire?
@@Materialist39 UA is supposed to have up to 24 (idk if all of them were delivered as of now) one confirmed destroyed in Nov. 2022 and one demaged
@@D0P1C3 Ukraine is to be using -
Up to 20 vz.77 DANAs(donation from Czech government) - 3 damaged(according to Oryx, I think there was Lancet strike that made big boom so I would say 1 destroyed)
Up to 26 DANA M2s(purchase from Czech ExcaliburArmy, started in like 2020, finalized quickly right after invasion) - 0 losses, as they are relatively recent arrivals(shown late 2023 for the first time)
Up to 24 Zuzana 2s(8 from Slovak government, 16 bought from Slovakia for Ukraine by I believe Germany+Denmark+maybe someone else) - 1 destroyed 1 damaged(Oryx, I think there was one more shown destroyed, might be the result of the damaged one)
Interesting! I’d never seen this hardware before
Very cool 🔥✨️🫡🫡✨️🔥
Very nice explained video. Nobody in slovakia knows that much about our artillery, all details here. How did you get all these informaticon i dont understand
The explenation where you start from the top to the bottom is pretty easy to follow compare if you start from the bottom
correction, Caliber is indeed the diameter of gun, the number behind the slash is Caliber*s* , and yes it is specifying the length of the barrel as a multiplicator of the Caliber. So there is difference between word Caliber and Calibers in gun barrel description.
Neat, love me SPs and modern wheeled vehicles. There’s some interesting tradeoffs they chose to accept on this. I would drive a PZH2000 to work if I could but this might be making a case for itself.
Given the logistical requirements in fuel and maintenance for tracked SPGs like the Paladin, combined with shortages in transportation assets like the HET to move it, the greater operational capabilities of artillery like this probably likely make it the superior system, and even more so given the US’s doctrinal focus on expeditionary operations
Wheeled howitzers are better for hit and run tactic. However anything DANA based is too heavy for expedition by air. But they protect crew, which is important when you fight inside enemy territory filled with snipers and landmines.
@@Pyrochemik007 they’re armored largely against counter-battery fire and small arms from probing dismounts. The Zuzana and the Paladin are almost the same weight, the Paladin weighs less than a ton more, well within weight limitations for strategic cargo aircraft, the limiting factor is size
we aren´t warmongers like the us and we have small country. with very rough/ hilly terrain..so whatever :D
In Afghanistan, our Strykers struggled in the mud during the rainy season. Tire chains helped with the sand but mud was an issue. Also, we had a few problems with roads washing out.
Tatra trucks are quite renowned for off-road capabilities, which comes with their "Tatra knows no brother" motto/catchphrase. So when it comes to wheeled chassis, an 8x8 Tatra is as good as you can get for heavy terrain traverse. However yes, tracked chassis might be still a bit safer bet in heavy terrain.
It seams like Zuzan would be closest eqivalent to ARcher in the sense that its armoured and have a heavy of road type wheel situation
I am a czech, so I afcourse imidietly jumped here to look at this, and WOW! I know that Tatra is most likely the best army-truck chassis in the world, but what I realy didnt know, was that our eastern brothers have such gorgeous steel lady at their disposal! :D Brutal and awesome!
This thing is beast looking
When i first saw this video in the nothefication i was like: a suprise to be shure but a welcomed one
thanks
The tatra truck is well known for cross country ability
Tatra 8x8 is among the best in the world chassis
Please do something on the South African G6 howitzer (AKA the rhino) pleeeease
There are arguments for and against truck mounted SPGs. One argument in this case is that they might be able to get into place faster than a tracked SPG could to blunt a sudden assault by a neighbor.
A sudden assault is, of course, a hypothetical scenario that has never occured in European history.
they are brilliant for a quick reinforcement support. Especially when the roads are not in perfect condition for towing truck which tracked artillery needs for longer distances. Or crossing some bridges. Zuzana 2 weight is 34t vs. Pz2000 57t vs. Krab 48t.
Proud to be Slovakian💪
Artillery to an army is like power tools to a man , you can never have enough .
I’d love to see a video on the American Crusader SPG which was meant to replace the M109.
your video edit well, with good quality CG, VERY Attarative！
One of the sexiest SPGs around.
what a skrunkly looking SPA
would love to see a comparison of this and the G6/archer
I was in 3-29 FA back in 1984
Miura Battery in late 2022 was from the GACA X 9:02
Video turned out perfect! Glad I could help.
Hi i am from slovakia thank you fot that content
That is one beautiful spg ❤
Would be interesting to see different efp brigade unit comparisons in baltic states and Poland.
I feel like an opportunity was missed to do the 'there is no Dana, only Zuul!' joke with naming these systems.
AWESOME
Its on par with the Archer and it looks really cool
cool video man
One of the finalists in the competition for the Brazilian Army's new wheeled howitzer. I root for him.
Um dos finalistas do concurso para o novo obuseiro sobre rodas do Exército Brasileiro. Torço por ele.
Great video!
This was great! Please also make a video about the Swedish Archer SPA. 🙏
Gaijin needs to add this thing to war thunder
Hey Battle Order! Are you planning on doing a video about the spanish armed forces?
Could make a video for the rch155 of the bundeswehr aswell, since they seem to go into the same direction with their new medium forces.
great new format
Praga V3S on schema diagram is the best!😀
Yo yo I need an Italian Centauro units analysis or anything in general on my pasta boys!
ONE CAN CLEARLY SEE THE CHECHOSOLAVIAN STRONG ENGINERING HERITAGE IN ITS DESIGN.
One of the best !!!
I'm Slovak so...😂😂😂
I was working on that shit as a mechanical engineer /3d designer :)
very good video. Here is my request to make video about czech army
Zuzana Dana Dita and new Morana 🔥😊🔥
Could you maybe do one on the croatian m95 degman that didnt enter service and the croatian "blitzkrieg" tactic
5:08 The projectiles are visible, They were using practice low powder shells?
The chassis should be articulated.. Which would be a redesign but Tatra chassis is totally capable for this modification
That would bring little to no benefit. It's maybe important for Sweden and their landscape, but not here. Also, articulation just adds unnecessary maintenance and complexity.
I served my compulsory military service in the 21st SP Artillery Battalion, but that was waaay back in 1998/99. Since then, Slovak army became professional and miitary service is not compulsory any more. And I´m surprised, seeing this video, that the Slovak army still has those old 152 mm D30 howitzers that we had back then....
Tatra never dies
What about a video talking about the Cuban Army (FAR) structure and organization, it used to be one of the powers in Latin America during the Cold War, and has a weird Soviet'ish doctrine combined with guerrilla warfare and localy manufactured Frankenstein armament
tatra goes brrrr
Whats the capped doggo eating in the styro to go plate there?
halal snack pack
this would make a great addition to the soviet tech tree
Zuzanka my beloved
probably should have mentioned of the deploymewnt speed during combat or known as "shoot and scoot" which has become important in Ukrainian war, since they need to quickly deploy, shoot and leave before counter battery gets them
other than that, great video
Main advantage is that it is locally designed, produced, and maintained.