This video looks primarily at brigade and divisional howitzer artillery in the Russian Army. If you'd like a video on other types of artillery, like regimental howitzers or rocket artillery, leave a comment!
Excellent content as always. It's nice to see how non-NATO forces are organizing their units and you're one of the best sources on youtube for that kind of stuff.
It's fun seeing how other countries do it since so many countries either purposefully or inadvertently copy NATO in many ways thanks to cultural influence, foreign training, or lack of modern combat experience
@Kenneth Johnson at what point did anyone state that? You need to be subtle with your snuck premise, you cant just drop it like a turd in a swimming pool.
I never realized how complicated the process of calling in a fire mission is. I've always thought its a FO talking to a Platoon commander, but nope there's an entire chain to it
Especially with all the deconfliction that needs to be considered these days. Between air and the always reliable host nation forces, it seems there’s a lot of room for procedures to be implemented.
I had a friend who was a forward observer in Afghanistan for a year and one time he went through the entire fire support request operation with 2 of us and yeah, it's way more complicated than what you see in movies.
You should consider the fact that in Russia, there are a lot of levels of artillery on different chains of command. MSTA-S uses long chain, Peony requires high command autorization for special payload, but stuff like Akatsiya is infantry-level, belongs to the unit it rolls with and bossed around on same level as any BMP it reinforces.
Or "Artillery ads dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl" which I find very funny since it's the artillery that takes away all the dignity from any kind of fights.
@@andershoel78 can confirm. and actually he invented the battalion (column) tactics, which Napoleon took / adopted from him. most underrated general in entire history.
@@RedboRF Even Hitler copied his organisation and taktics. His parrents was from Sweden, under the name Suvor, in Russia it became Suvorov. And its also explane why its named the great fatherland war in Russia, and not WW1 and WW2. It was a way for the rojal families in europe, to try to take back power from the communists, thru Hitler. One other thing history dont mention, is there was a lot of Swedes that imigrated east in this time.
Did anybody else notice we just received a crash course into artillery warfare here? Napoleon be proud... I think I learned in under 10 minutes way more than my entire life to this point...
@@venomsoul1147 The coup regime in Kyiv should stop revising its history to teach lessions lionising the Galician Nazi collaborators then! Village burners, rapists, torturers the lot of them. And those neo-Nazi paramilitaries should be disbanded and disarmed, if not arrested. Particularly Azov.
@@venomsoul1147 do not listen to him, he talks about Ukrainian punishers, hiding behind the backs of civilians, placing his artillery in the courtyards of Donetsk residents, shooting down civilian planes. And yes, Bandera was against the Nazis and the Communists, in contrast to the Russian General Vlasov with 300k to the army of Nazi associates.
@@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю And so? Bandera has third-class person without any achivments. Vlasov has just traitor. No one better of those. Dont known pro-vlasov forces exist anywhere today. Answer me please, why Berlin hasnt notes about battles aganist oun-upa? And lisen, you mean some civil-war forces better than others? I asume any modern war - just cash investment, no-matter-wthat-cost. Just dig to beneficiaries.
I think your best video so far. Just awesome. Would love to see similar videos on American and Chinese artillery and then maybe to conclude the series an overview of similarities, differences, strengths and weaknesses. Once again, awesome content!
"Artillery is the god of war," said French General Jean Batiste Vaquet de Griboval. Especially 203mm with nuclear shells, you can't hide, you can't protect yourself. If they are closer than 40 km, just run, but you will still just die already tired. Artillery is not only 152-mm, but also 122-mm self-propelled amphibious guns. And 120-240-mm mortars, which are capable of throwing a 100-kiloton mine directly into your trench. If you can't knock them out first, you're already dead. And you can't, because there are too many air defense systems there. You can't suppress them with your artillery, because you haven't had anything like this for a long time, you relied too much on aviation.
Good video, but not 100% precise. Firstly, any battery has an organic supply section of two to three trucks (I've forgot exact number). Second, battery commander has a direct link with his battery FDC, he don't really need a battalion commander to translate his orders to his own battery. If a battery in a direct support with a company, the battery CP is only translating his orders to the battalion CP to keep it informed of it's actions, ammo comsumption and overall intelligence, and receive orders from it in case of, say, immediate concentrated fire of the battalion. Generally it's depends on plan of artillery employment which is called a fire plan (it's beyond the scope of just some preliminary barrages)
@@aleksandrhellgate7396 Эта хуйня еще в рассекреченных американских мануалах 80х годов про советскую армию написана, блогеры их просто сами не читают. Тоже мне блджад военная тайна
The difference between NATO and Russian nukes Russia wants to use small yield nukes to figh against enemy infantry units, where Nato wants to use it to blow up civilian populations, hence why Russia said "fine, I make biggest nuke then"
@@sovietred7371 I don't know why your trying to differentiate between tactical and strategic nukes. Tactical nukes are just as fully capable of wiping out large civilian population centers like any other strategic nuclear warhead. The main difference between strategic and tactical nukes are its dispersal system. Tactical nukes are deployed on the divisional level. Strategic nukes are deployed at the strategic level with heavy involvement in its deployment by the national government.
at 04:08 of the video this man have a shot of Russian artillery dropping tactical nuke on a Kiev... the video is dated 27 aug 2021 ... this man had deep understanding way in advance ... visionary.
Очень интересно и крайне наглядно. Лайк. Однако слабо раскрыто присутствие и работа реактивной артиллерии, которая занимает не меньшее значение в российской военной доктрине. Странно видеть, что на дистанциях более 40 км используются тактические ракеты, так как там все ещё можно использовать ракетную артиллерию.
Отличное видео. Автор ВСЕ правильно показал. Автор ВСЕ правильно понимает. Автор правильно думает. Пусть так и будет... Пока противник рисует карты, мы меняем ландшафты...
Also bit of information for the video poster. The US no longer uses the copperhead round. We still have them in inventory and storage(cause we bought a lot but they're just sitting there) But they proved to be risky. At times they could not distinguish between which end of the laser guiding it was the observer or target. And we've nearly killed our own observers with it. So we no longer use laser guided rounds.
US Army has a new anti armor 155mm terminal guided projectile called Bonus. Think it as a modern version of copperhead. You can check it out from BAE official RUclips channel: ruclips.net/video/ApoYo8CrtiY/видео.html
@@aps125 Bonus was first adopted in 2000 by the Swedes and French, not exactly brand new. Bonus is an end-phase IR guided AT shell, it's not a laser-guided shell like Krasnopol or Copperhead.
@@hjorturerlend Bonus MK2 entered US service just two years ago. The new variant has both IR and laser seekers to boost the kill rate. The sensor fused warhead contains two EPF submunitions to defeat AFV
Dear Battle Order - very much enjoyed your video , thank you .Minor suggestion on pronounsaiton the system is not called "musta" it is m'stA .Admitedly an awkward word even for russian speakers , it is an old slavic word for vengance and name of some river .
Finally! A video/content creator that shows a diagram of how a Artillery unit is organized, its job, and how a battle order would work (pun not intended) other youtuber with the same content that I Have seen usually verbally speak it out with little or no diagram. But here you highlighted how it work and I like that as im a very visual learner! You earned yourself a subscriber! Im check your channel for video over Nato Artillery units and both Nato and non Nato tank units! Thank you! It only took years for YT algorithm to recommend your channel on my feed 🤣 should have done it soon, but also my curiosity too, im very picky and judge a video of its Thumbnail! To many of those fake "real US military news" channels if you know what I mean, using a computerzied robotic narrator! Makes me reluctant to try new channels, but again yours is great, different, and actually put work into it and research. Not hastily produced with fake or inaccurate facts/thumbnails for the sole purpose of only likes and subs!
It appears they DO have superiority in air now. Howeveer Russian involvement in pre-2022 Donbas was really one sided on artillery, you can see shit tone of pics with burned ukrainian columns.
@@user_arbuser_01 Actually the best hardware is not the one which costs the most or which takes the longest to produce. The best hardware is the hardware which has an acceptable effectiveness but can be mass produced at such an exponential rate where for every piece your adversary assembles, you assemble 10. So yeah, Russian SPGs are not the best, but who cares if you have only 20 top notch SPGs having to face 200-400 more than okay SPGs? Hence why Russian hardware is so lethal, not because it is the best, but because of the amount the Russians possess.
@@Daurentius322 That is such cope lol. That is why they are being destroyed in the hundreds by CAESAR and Archer systems as I am writing this comment. lol.
The germans make with the PZH 2000 the same mistake as with the Tiger tank in WW II: to complicated, to much repair intense and to build only in low numbers. What is the sense if one tiger can kill 5-10 T-34, but the russians had tens of thousands of them and the germans had maybe 2.500 tigers. The most of them not shot by T-34, but broke down by mechanical issues, lack of gasolin or enemies artillerie fire. Same problem today with PZH 2000 and many other western weapon systems. Take a look at the experiences with PZH 2000 in Ukraine. Then you know, where the issues are.
Do you have any plans for videos on rather "minor" nations like Poland, Hungary or Ukraine? I really enjoyed the video with Swedish army and personally would love to see video on the Polish army.
@@PewPewPlasmagun well, videos on Japanese and Swedish armies have quite a lot of views. Also Battle Order doesn't make videos about military equipment and tech, I would like to see how smaller armies operate in general strategy, tactics etc. If anything the bigger nations are boring because of how many videos were made on them. For example Polish army has combination of western and eastern equipment and I'd like to see how it is used in combat.
@@spencerstevens2175 it's said that nato doesn't have numbers anywhere near to what the Russians field. They compensate (or overcompensate) with air power.
@@TheTeme61 you still don’t believe Russia is killing Ukrainians? What exactly are they showing y’all on tv over there lol. Try searching around RUclips while you guys are still allowed to.
@@TheTeme61 don’t play dumb you know what the fascist Russians are doing in Ukraine, the Bucha videos is proof Putin and Russia is the new NaZis, also rape as they used in ww2. The world won’t forget this or even the fascist trolls that ran propaganda. Enjoy the sanctions
2:40 Oh come on, you used my town Sumy (Ukraine) as an example of Msta-S range. And you did it half a year before the war. At least I'm glad we kicked Russian asses from our town, so we've got that going for us.
@@x-raygames9619 nope that is the biggest bs ever they left because the Ukrainians started to push them back away from Kyiv and could lead to an encirclement of forces as well as the terrible logistics and high loses.
@@x-raygames9619 as you know, Hitler withdrew troops from Stalingrad under an agreement with the USSR. And from under Moscow, the troops were withdrawn of his good will.
@@alexanderflemming6788 no, Sumy was city which was left according to agreement. Even on maps they moved forward from it on many kilometres so they couldn't be "kicked" from there. Apart from maps I use video of result of conversation between russian and ukranian diplomats. What source do you use? Can you share it?
@@x-raygames9619 In fact, the Territorial Defense was organized before the war (just like the Soviet militia), so this is again cheap demagoguery. And your conjectures about the Jewish roots of Hitler should be confirmed by evidence, and not by the words of conspiracy theorists. As far as I remember, the Jew who was supposed to be Hitler's ancestor did not even exist.
When you don't have an all powerful airforce, you need artillery. The German army used to field a lot of artillery too. They had a ratio of 1 artillery battalion for each 2 regular (Tanks & Mechanized Infantry) battalions, during the Cold War. Of course that was one of the first things to go when they made that idiotic shift towards a "peace keeping and nation building" army in the 90s. It will be interesting to see whether they will go back to something more sensible and capable now that they announced that they would "re-arm".
This is very interesting the use of UAVs or drones with artillery. Interesting the things are being used and we have live proof or their use in combat. Wonder if our own forces, have such advanced thinking and utility for such technology.
In an environment where the battlespace is heavily defended by Integrated Air Defence systems of all types, ranges, and guidance, drones and artillery maybe the only systems that can survive being shot at.
Rusian theoretical doctrine vs Russian real word practice was really different. Nowhere did the doctrin say repeat WW1 trench warfare, with massive artillery bombardment.
Its worth updating the Russian call for fire chain, as RUSI is saying Russia is achieving near real time effects in less than 3 minutes with AI (or menu driven software allocating priority targets to on call artie without need for human intervention).
Since I first watched this video I started using a 2S3M Akatsiya in War Thunder. It's not easy, armour is not existent, but it is fun for sure. Especially with the 3OF25 HE shell.
whther its an old vid or a new vid how you and your team produce such detail is off the charts- tbh I check your org tables before I read news about conflict overseas to be real- once I know the numbers and listen to the "top story" I can easily determine what is up so yeah u do really good stuff besides my pixel troopen military applications :)
👍👍 Always look forward to seeing these presentations. Would you be able or interested, in doing a new video on Russian BTG/Battle Tactical Group? Considering current events, such info could prove very informative for many. Thank you for your time!
I just want to say that Russia is still pretty protected against air (usa) becose russia have best missiles in the world. Doesn't matter what type of missile.
Motor Rifle Battalion can have a AGS platoon of three sections with two launchers in each. Each section have its own BTR or BMP (depending on the type of motor rifle battalion) and usually is attached to each of the maneuver companies of the battalion. AGS platoon is rarely used together.
usually the NBC troops have the most terrifying infantry weapons (i.e. shmel flamethrowers); I forget what formation they can be attached in, maybe a company, but they're not present in every battalion and even brigade.
@@Pythoner I'll tell you more. Bumblebees are generally absent in the overwhelming number of divisions. According to the state, they are available only to the troops of "Radiation, Chemical and Bacteriological Protection".
Battery Senior Officer can be not only Senior Lieutenant, but just Lieutenant. I'm not senior, yet I have been tought as BSO. (If you name it Senior Officer of Battery, abbreviation will be just like in russian)
The maximum combat reach of the US artillery was 30 km with smart ammunition, maybe the"bad guys" are only out at that range, or they were unable to discover enemies at further range, but ayway, 30 km was the maximum US used combat range.
@@biejaleslol1225 Exactly! The billions of dollars lost because these tanks cost a lot and then it goes BOOM! Not including the IFVs (BMPs, D's and MT-LBs) Emotional damage.
@@biejaleslol1225 ignoring media reports I have seen them invade Ukraine 3 months ago with their entire army and their entire usable air force they have fought for 3 months they have lost with massive casualties around Kiev they have lost with massive casualties around karkev it is quite possible for Ukraine to carry on advancing into Russian territory now on opposed I've watched them throw their entire army now at the Donbass line of defence for nearly a month and a half and they have gained a couple of villages if you had any idea of their ammunition expenditure you would probably pass out that have they hit anything without ammunition I doubt it You see in the corrupt disgusting evil Russian army soldiers are given a quota of fire missions so they point the gun in the general direction and blast off the allotted quantity of ammunition no one gives two shits if it hits anything they've met their quota why do you love the Russians mate why are you speaking up for them does invading an innocent country and raping and murdering sound appealing to you just think about the timeline and stop watching shit videos on RUclips that are paid for by Moscow what has actually happened is that the Russian army air force and the navy have completely failed and ask yourself why a country with such a vast resources and vast expenditure on defence cannot invade their smaller neighbour which spends one 100th of what they do on defence and they have failing in their attempt they have destroyed the Russian army the Black sea fleet is now hiding in port and their air force is crippled the economy will be 50% the size it was at the start of the invasion within 4 years what will the Russians do then eat shit cuz that's all they'll have left
@@biejaleslol1225 The damage they made to civilian cities, they can't do shit to actual military targets, especially when they are stuck in miles long convoys getting drone striked.
@@MBTIinRealLife right so there is this game called: "Wargame: Red Dragon" it is a rts set in an alternate history where WW3 starts and you are in control of a 'Deck' from 2 factions (Bluefor vs Redfor) and its members. Each member/country has it's own Division and you get to choose Infantry, Support, Logistics, Recon, Vehicle, Helicopter, Air Force units. The Soviet Union is part of the Redfor faction and since it has a Support Tab, you can choose Artillery/MRLS/Mortars, etc so players who search guides look for tips and tricks regarding the use of the Support units, that's why I wrote "Write that down" because it isnt just a reference to Bob&Sponge but to the players (specially newbies) who are constantly learning on how to properly play Wargame:Red Dragon.
This video helps because it explains the realistic artillery doctrine Russia uses in real life so players might try to apply what was explained in this video in Wargame.
The Koalitsiya-SV Range of fire with standard projectile is around 30 km and around 40 km with rocket-assisted projectile. A new long-range precision-guided round has been developed. It has a maximum range of 70 km. The Koalitsiya-SV KSh is also capable of firing older Krasnopol laser-guided munitions with a range of 20-25 km.
US army has a new super howitzer to enter service soon (planned for 2023) . M1299 SPH uses M109A7 chassis and gun cab but upgraded with a 58 caliber long gun barrel. with a super charge and new rocket assisted round it can hit targets beyond 70km. This new HE projectile also is compatible with PGK fuse to achieve near precision.
Damn, I fell in love with your channel. Such a wonderful example of ruzzia apologists in the comments. Can't wait to read more in future videos, I hope you'd pick the same title and content for the next video. Popcorn is reserved for sure fella!
I like the russian doctrine on high number of artillery units. The US army's advantage is that each divsion operates with 2 squadrons of 24 apaches each along with other aviation battalions. US army's (3 corps) 75th field artillery brigades 5 battalions of mlrs need to wipe out the vast number of russian guns or the Russians high number of guns will lay havoc to the maneuver units.
Not to mention their rocket forces, those thermobaric rockets (flamethrower) are devastating. They have been used in Ukraine and have taken out entire companies in a few minutes. Watch Phillip Karver’s lectures on the Russian military and ops in Ukraine, he speaks about the use or arty/rockets at length.
@@frankiecalsone8536 the apaches face tor, tunguska, and those missiles can shoot an apache farther then it can shoot. The apaches obviously help the maneuver units to wipe out mechanized/ tank companies in their way.
@Alex Surname funny that you don’t even know your countries nickname for your rocket system, but you can also say that no Russian forces have fought in Ukraine. That kind of delusion is expected, I had a Russian tell me that they won ww2 on their own and the Americans never helped supply the ussr with American made gear to cover for their losses. There is plenty of evidence showing modern Russian tanks t72s fighting in Ukraine 🤦♂️ with modern era. Such as in dontesk airport, while being chased down by rpg wielding infantry. There have been documented cases of the thermobarics being used to wipe out multiple companies in minutes.
This video looks primarily at brigade and divisional howitzer artillery in the Russian Army. If you'd like a video on other types of artillery, like regimental howitzers or rocket artillery, leave a comment!
Yes, please.
Yeah, something about the bundeswehr, thegerman army, would be much appreciated!
Yes, please.
video on Indian Artillery
Sure,why not? 😊
Excellent content as always. It's nice to see how non-NATO forces are organizing their units and you're one of the best sources on youtube for that kind of stuff.
without a doubt
It's fun seeing how other countries do it since so many countries either purposefully or inadvertently copy NATO in many ways thanks to cultural influence, foreign training, or lack of modern combat experience
@Kenneth Johnson at what point did anyone state that? You need to be subtle with your snuck premise, you cant just drop it like a turd in a swimming pool.
@Kenneth Johnson Ahh, self-admitted spammer and nutter. Go away.
This aged like milk xD
I never realized how complicated the process of calling in a fire mission is. I've always thought its a FO talking to a Platoon commander, but nope there's an entire chain to it
Especially with all the deconfliction that needs to be considered these days. Between air and the always reliable host nation forces, it seems there’s a lot of room for procedures to be implemented.
I had a friend who was a forward observer in Afghanistan for a year and one time he went through the entire fire support request operation with 2 of us and yeah, it's way more complicated than what you see in movies.
You should consider the fact that in Russia, there are a lot of levels of artillery on different chains of command. MSTA-S uses long chain, Peony requires high command autorization for special payload, but stuff like Akatsiya is infantry-level, belongs to the unit it rolls with and bossed around on same level as any BMP it reinforces.
Depends on how many fucks you give. In Checnhya blind shots are fair game.
@@nickkorkodylas5005 There is no "Chechnya" when it comes to artillery.
There is only YVO ("Yuzhniy Voennyi Okrug", Southern Military district).
The animations that went along with the explanation of tactics used is AMAZING. Please continue to do this.
There are two types of people, artillerymen and targets
(Yes I will comment slightly relevant wargame quotes whenever I can)
Seem on-brand
Or "Artillery ads dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl" which I find very funny since it's the artillery that takes away all the dignity from any kind of fights.
It's not MY war.
Two jobs, grunts and support.
@@stanisawnielepkowicz1881 That is attributed to Fredrick der Grosse (Fredrick the Great/Fredrick the Second) of Prussia. ;)
"God is on the side with the best artillery"
-Napoleon Bonaparte
False quote - Napoleon never said anything like that.
@@inkognitou6982 you definitely followed Napoleon his entire life, 24/7
Say that to Suvorov.
Who beated Mcdonald in Napoleons army in northern Italy. (After passing the alpes on foot)
He never losed a battle.
@@andershoel78 can confirm. and actually he invented the battalion (column) tactics, which Napoleon took / adopted from him. most underrated general in entire history.
@@RedboRF
Even Hitler copied his organisation and taktics.
His parrents was from Sweden, under the name Suvor, in Russia it became Suvorov.
And its also explane why its named the great fatherland war in Russia, and not WW1 and WW2.
It was a way for the rojal families in europe, to try to take back power from the communists, thru Hitler.
One other thing history dont mention, is there was a lot of Swedes that imigrated east in this time.
Other militaries : Sir, we must locate the enemy in the target area and destroy it!
Russians : Sir why not destroy THE target area?
Laughs in Donetsk airport
-Do you see grid sqare sergeant?
-Yes.
-I don't want it.
*TOS-1 angry noises*
@@tando6266 240мм
@@tando6266 lmao so true
@@PyromaN93 Tos-2*
Did anybody else notice we just received a crash course into artillery warfare here? Napoleon be proud... I think I learned in under 10 minutes way more than my entire life to this point...
I guess if Napoleon would have had the 152mm howitzers, he'd won at waterloo haha
Too bad you wont be needing the information unless you're a battery commander
@@markusz4447 If he had good howitzers at all, Wellington's backslope would have meant nothing.
GRAU: How many hwitzers would you like Comrade Shoigu?
Russian MoD: *YeS*
Read about new - Coalition-SV
@worldoftancraft не ГРУ, а ГРАУ. Или русский язык не родной?
>Talks about nuclear artillery shells
>shows Kyiv
>ok Vladimir.
*Azov battalion flying swastika and NATO flags*
*Sacred War anthem intensifies*
@@MonMalthias Hell, i hope not!
@@venomsoul1147 The coup regime in Kyiv should stop revising its history to teach lessions lionising the Galician Nazi collaborators then! Village burners, rapists, torturers the lot of them.
And those neo-Nazi paramilitaries should be disbanded and disarmed, if not arrested. Particularly Azov.
@@venomsoul1147 do not listen to him, he talks about Ukrainian punishers, hiding behind the backs of civilians, placing his artillery in the courtyards of Donetsk residents, shooting down civilian planes. And yes, Bandera was against the Nazis and the Communists, in contrast to the Russian General Vlasov with 300k to the army of Nazi associates.
@@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю And so? Bandera has third-class person without any achivments. Vlasov has just traitor. No one better of those. Dont known pro-vlasov forces exist anywhere today. Answer me please, why Berlin hasnt notes about battles aganist oun-upa?
And lisen, you mean some civil-war forces better than others? I asume any modern war - just cash investment, no-matter-wthat-cost. Just dig to beneficiaries.
I think your best video so far. Just awesome. Would love to see similar videos on American and Chinese artillery and then maybe to conclude the series an overview of similarities, differences, strengths and weaknesses. Once again, awesome content!
I was a loader on Msta-S in 2013-2014 and I learned more about the organizational structure in this video than in 1.5 years of service!
You turned out in disbat or very often on guba? Coz since 2008 time of service is one year.
@@Kon_Chen_i probably he's peace da ball.
Or was kicked out of contract ))
@@vasiliynikiforov1976 с контракта уйти та ещё проблема. Скорее первый вариант.
@@Kon_Chen_i с контракта могут вышвырнуть за неподобающее поведение. Не так ли? )
The little Pacman icon for the Mess section is adorable, an I want it to be a real thing
It's real.
Or at least it's included in list about/of tactical symbols I've sitting in my computer
Ah yes, exactly what i need at 9pm.
Yes
It's said that the artillery is the king of the battlefield, and infantry is the queen. We all know what king does to the queen..
It pounds her
@@Someone-jz5pl can u not say that pls
@@personbob8691 TIME FOR SOME GROUND POUNDING - A Vtuber
"Artillery is the god of war," said French General Jean Batiste Vaquet de Griboval.
Especially 203mm with nuclear shells, you can't hide, you can't protect yourself. If they are closer than 40 km, just run, but you will still just die already tired.
Artillery is not only 152-mm, but also 122-mm self-propelled amphibious guns. And 120-240-mm mortars, which are capable of throwing a 100-kiloton mine directly into your trench. If you can't knock them out first, you're already dead. And you can't, because there are too many air defense systems there. You can't suppress them with your artillery, because you haven't had anything like this for a long time, you relied too much on aviation.
@@mochiisntbad6762 **hic**
Seems like the perfect video to ask a repeated question: Where did part 2 of the soviet artillery in ww2 video go? Will it be back?
The arguments in it were flawed so I unlisted it.
@@BattleOrder Do you have a list of which arguments were flawed and in what way? It would be very interesting to learn from that.
One of your best videos so far. Congrats
I appreciate it!
At this point in time shoigu and gerasimov still knew where the ammo was
Good video, but not 100% precise. Firstly, any battery has an organic supply section of two to three trucks (I've forgot exact number). Second, battery commander has a direct link with his battery FDC, he don't really need a battalion commander to translate his orders to his own battery. If a battery in a direct support with a company, the battery CP is only translating his orders to the battalion CP to keep it informed of it's actions, ammo comsumption and overall intelligence, and receive orders from it in case of, say, immediate concentrated fire of the battalion. Generally it's depends on plan of artillery employment which is called a fire plan (it's beyond the scope of just some preliminary barrages)
Ты чё тут барабанишь? Эх..
@@aleksandrhellgate7396 Эта хуйня еще в рассекреченных американских мануалах 80х годов про советскую армию написана, блогеры их просто сами не читают. Тоже мне блджад военная тайна
@@ФедяКрюков-в6ь Ну и что? Барабанишь то, зачем?
Типа в надежде, что по головке погладят? Мол: Гуд Теодор, гуд!
Tactical nukes are my second favorite kind, after recreational.
The difference between NATO and Russian nukes
Russia wants to use small yield nukes to figh against enemy infantry units, where Nato wants to use it to blow up civilian populations, hence why Russia said "fine, I make biggest nuke then"
@@sovietred7371 funny how they halved the size of the Tzar Bomba and it still spooked them.
@@sovietred7371 I don't know why your trying to differentiate between tactical and strategic nukes. Tactical nukes are just as fully capable of wiping out large civilian population centers like any other strategic nuclear warhead. The main difference between strategic and tactical nukes are its dispersal system. Tactical nukes are deployed on the divisional level. Strategic nukes are deployed at the strategic level with heavy involvement in its deployment by the national government.
4:06 tactical nuking Kyiv before it was cool.
Great job. Keep up!
at 04:08 of the video this man have a shot of Russian artillery dropping tactical nuke on a Kiev... the video is dated 27 aug 2021 ... this man had deep understanding way in advance ... visionary.
Or he simply was up tp date with happening. The war in ukraine isnt new, it was happening since 2014.
Очень интересно и крайне наглядно. Лайк. Однако слабо раскрыто присутствие и работа реактивной артиллерии, которая занимает не меньшее значение в российской военной доктрине. Странно видеть, что на дистанциях более 40 км используются тактические ракеты, так как там все ещё можно использовать ракетную артиллерию.
Это просто ошибка автора.
Автор западник, а потому ошибки, неточная или исковерканная информация и банальная ложь будут присутствовать в обязательном порядке.
Отличное видео. Автор ВСЕ правильно показал. Автор ВСЕ правильно понимает. Автор правильно думает.
Пусть так и будет...
Пока противник рисует карты, мы меняем ландшафты...
@@ИванИванченко-с9т 🤗
Он как раз о ствольной артиллерии говорил. Про реактивную обещает рассказать если комментов понапишут. А так то грамотный автор
4:06 foreshadowing?
Also bit of information for the video poster.
The US no longer uses the copperhead round. We still have them in inventory and storage(cause we bought a lot but they're just sitting there)
But they proved to be risky. At times they could not distinguish between which end of the laser guiding it was the observer or target. And we've nearly killed our own observers with it. So we no longer use laser guided rounds.
I am aware. I mentioned the Copperhead because that’s what the Krasnopol’s guidance is like
@@BattleOrder my bad then. Carry on!
US Army has a new anti armor 155mm terminal guided projectile called Bonus. Think it as a modern version of copperhead. You can check it out from BAE official RUclips channel: ruclips.net/video/ApoYo8CrtiY/видео.html
@@aps125 Bonus was first adopted in 2000 by the Swedes and French, not exactly brand new. Bonus is an end-phase IR guided AT shell, it's not a laser-guided shell like Krasnopol or Copperhead.
@@hjorturerlend Bonus MK2 entered US service just two years ago. The new variant has both IR and laser seekers to boost the kill rate. The sensor fused warhead contains two EPF submunitions to defeat AFV
Dear Battle Order - very much enjoyed your video , thank you .Minor suggestion on pronounsaiton the system is not called "musta" it is m'stA .Admitedly an awkward word even for russian speakers , it is an old slavic word for vengance and name of some river .
Nice, I wonder what river... something in ww2 I would have to say
Amazing production quality, and good info. Great job!
Finally! A video/content creator that shows a diagram of how a Artillery unit is organized, its job, and how a battle order would work (pun not intended) other youtuber with the same content that I Have seen usually verbally speak it out with little or no diagram. But here you highlighted how it work and I like that as im a very visual learner! You earned yourself a subscriber! Im check your channel for video over Nato Artillery units and both Nato and non Nato tank units! Thank you! It only took years for YT algorithm to recommend your channel on my feed 🤣 should have done it soon, but also my curiosity too, im very picky and judge a video of its Thumbnail! To many of those fake "real US military news" channels if you know what I mean, using a computerzied robotic narrator! Makes me reluctant to try new channels, but again yours is great, different, and actually put work into it and research. Not hastily produced with fake or inaccurate facts/thumbnails for the sole purpose of only likes and subs!
So basically, with air superiority and heavy artillery, you get Donbass August 2022. An absolute meat grinder.
More like lack of air superiority
@@peterdonlon2083 source: ukraine
@@hello-ii5lh That didn’t age well.
@@hello-ii5lh Aged like milk, vatnik
Made a clown of yourself for all to see. Honk honk
🤡
It appears they DO have superiority in air now. Howeveer Russian involvement in pre-2022 Donbas was really one sided on artillery, you can see shit tone of pics with burned ukrainian columns.
Active radio jammers in an artillery shell ? Wow, that's all kinds of nasty. they really do take electronic warfare seriously.
Yep...
They also didn't take training, professionalism,and morality seriously.
Yea too bad they dont take arming their actual soldiers as serious
@@forrestgreene1139who exactly the nato forces and their La lies in Afghanistan and Iraq ?
Amazing documentary....I was an infantry guy and never thought alot about artillery but your segment explains their roll perfectly....thanks
Потрясающая работа, спасибо!
hand down the best video in its kind i want to see more like this
I served in a German Panzerhaubitze 2000 and its safely to say that this Beast is right at his high Position in the SPA Ranking
Imho, it is the best self-propelled howitzer in the world on this moment. 👍
@@user_arbuser_01 Actually the best hardware is not the one which costs the most or which takes the longest to produce.
The best hardware is the hardware which has an acceptable effectiveness but can be mass produced at such an exponential rate where for every piece your adversary assembles, you assemble 10.
So yeah, Russian SPGs are not the best, but who cares if you have only 20 top notch SPGs having to face 200-400 more than okay SPGs? Hence why Russian hardware is so lethal, not because it is the best, but because of the amount the Russians possess.
Doesn't get close to the Archer system lol.
@@Daurentius322
That is such cope lol.
That is why they are being destroyed in the hundreds by CAESAR and Archer systems as I am writing this comment. lol.
The germans make with the PZH 2000 the same mistake as with the Tiger tank in WW II: to complicated, to much repair intense and to build only in low numbers. What is the sense if one tiger can kill 5-10 T-34, but the russians had tens of thousands of them and the germans had maybe 2.500 tigers. The most of them not shot by T-34, but broke down by mechanical issues, lack of gasolin or enemies artillerie fire. Same problem today with PZH 2000 and many other western weapon systems. Take a look at the experiences with PZH 2000 in Ukraine. Then you know, where the issues are.
The quality and graphics of this video are great, by the way. And the footage is always helpful for visualisation.
Do you have any plans for videos on rather "minor" nations like Poland, Hungary or Ukraine? I really enjoyed the video with Swedish army and personally would love to see video on the Polish army.
Tbh there is not much to talk about. The major powers have more stuff and tech.
+1
@@PewPewPlasmagun well, videos on Japanese and Swedish armies have quite a lot of views. Also Battle Order doesn't make videos about military equipment and tech, I would like to see how smaller armies operate in general strategy, tactics etc. If anything the bigger nations are boring because of how many videos were made on them. For example Polish army has combination of western and eastern equipment and I'd like to see how it is used in combat.
No videos on Indian armed forces till now.
Surprised to see no videos on French as well.
On level of Japan and Sweden, we can talk of Israel and Turkey as well.
Fantastic job as always
That feel when foreign youtuber makes videos about russian army better than our own youtubers and even TV-channels) add russian subtitles please)
Moar artillery! This is both a request for you to do more videos on modern artillery, as well as just a general sentiment.
Now we need artillery analysis of NATO countries. Great job!
Just look at Ukraine vs Russia. Now imagine an actual NATO fighting force there. It wouldnt be pretty for Russia.
@@spencerstevens2175 it's said that nato doesn't have numbers anywhere near to what the Russians field. They compensate (or overcompensate) with air power.
@@apoleonschneider its sad you still believe everything you read about the Russian military
Nice work! Can you do one on modern German armoured forces, by any chance?
I love your knowledge of US' artillery pieces used to compare the Russians! As an Artilleryman..
10:05 omg is that a baofeng
the Chinese has infiltrated them
This is a lot of good level intel, I learned a lot.
Terrible day to have this recommended.
That artillery has proven itself incredibly effective against civilian residential areas
According to who?
Russian artillery is second to none - at killing civilians
@@TheTeme61 you still don’t believe Russia is killing Ukrainians? What exactly are they showing y’all on tv over there lol. Try searching around RUclips while you guys are still allowed to.
@@alexburke1899 of course they are killing the nazis, what do you mean?
@@TheTeme61 don’t play dumb you know what the fascist Russians are doing in Ukraine, the Bucha videos is proof Putin and Russia is the new NaZis, also rape as they used in ww2. The world won’t forget this or even the fascist trolls that ran propaganda. Enjoy the sanctions
Great job as always!
4:05
Well, that one aged like milk...
Amazing editing my guy. I struggle with presentations and i appreciate your skills.
Thanks mate
2:40 Oh come on, you used my town Sumy (Ukraine) as an example of Msta-S range. And you did it half a year before the war.
At least I'm glad we kicked Russian asses from our town, so we've got that going for us.
Wait, didn't they left city because of agreement? How did you "kicked their asses"?
@@x-raygames9619 nope that is the biggest bs ever they left because the Ukrainians started to push them back away from Kyiv and could lead to an encirclement of forces as well as the terrible logistics and high loses.
@@x-raygames9619 as you know, Hitler withdrew troops from Stalingrad under an agreement with the USSR. And from under Moscow, the troops were withdrawn of his good will.
@@alexanderflemming6788 no, Sumy was city which was left according to agreement. Even on maps they moved forward from it on many kilometres so they couldn't be "kicked" from there. Apart from maps I use video of result of conversation between russian and ukranian diplomats. What source do you use? Can you share it?
@@x-raygames9619 In fact, the Territorial Defense was organized before the war (just like the Soviet militia), so this is again cheap demagoguery. And your conjectures about the Jewish roots of Hitler should be confirmed by evidence, and not by the words of conspiracy theorists. As far as I remember, the Jew who was supposed to be Hitler's ancestor did not even exist.
When you don't have an all powerful airforce, you need artillery. The German army used to field a lot of artillery too. They had a ratio of 1 artillery battalion for each 2 regular (Tanks & Mechanized Infantry) battalions, during the Cold War.
Of course that was one of the first things to go when they made that idiotic shift towards a "peace keeping and nation building" army in the 90s.
It will be interesting to see whether they will go back to something more sensible and capable now that they announced that they would "re-arm".
In sniper duel on 2km distance and more wins artillery
This is very interesting the use of UAVs or drones with artillery. Interesting the things are being used and we have live proof or their use in combat. Wonder if our own forces, have such advanced thinking and utility for such technology.
Есть видео из Сирии, штурм Абу-Кемаль
ruclips.net/video/nXi7-szxoX4/видео.html
In an environment where the battlespace is heavily defended by Integrated Air Defence systems of all types, ranges, and guidance, drones and artillery maybe the only systems that can survive being shot at.
Ahh yes this aged well
Well it did the Russians have given up on mobile BTGs and switched to mass artilleey firepower
@@bigbrother7405 Until it didn’t
Ah yes, it aged well.
Yeah, Russian artillery has battered Ukrainian units
This video was so good. A lot of very good information
this didnt age well
This comment didn't age well
Stalin is quoted as saying artillery is the God of war.
This aged in... devastating manner :-(
Good content though.
If you feel being harassed in the office, think that in the field you can be harassed by 152 mm HE-FRAG shell.
Don't even need to imagine, lol. Also, 120mm mortar.
Rusian theoretical doctrine vs Russian real word practice was really different. Nowhere did the doctrin say repeat WW1 trench warfare, with massive artillery bombardment.
Russia is a common house cat in USSRs tiger pelt.
Love the detail you go into in your videos !
If anyone has played Tom Clancy's EndWar this is pretty much how I conducted my battles, air strikes aswell with forward riflemen observer platoons.
Its worth updating the Russian call for fire chain, as RUSI is saying Russia is achieving near real time effects in less than 3 minutes with AI (or menu driven software allocating priority targets to on call artie without need for human intervention).
This is awesome
Thank you.
WOW Man that was very interesting
You did your homework!
Well done! Very informative and clear without boring me
Looking forward to this, something about the german army next?
Got something on China scheduled next
@@BattleOrder well, any of your content is much appreciated, high quality here. Thanks for your great vids!
Thanks!
German what now? Does not exist.
@@shinchan-F-urmom what does that mean
Since I first watched this video I started using a 2S3M Akatsiya in War Thunder. It's not easy, armour is not existent, but it is fun for sure. Especially with the 3OF25 HE shell.
Ukrainians: "WRITE THAT DOWN PAVLOV WRITE THAT DOWN"
whther its an old vid or a new vid how you and your team produce such detail is off the charts- tbh I check your org tables before I read news about conflict overseas to be real- once I know the numbers and listen to the "top story" I can easily determine what is up so yeah u do really good stuff besides my pixel troopen military applications :)
such a great video, thanks mate, and greetings form Russia.
👍👍
Always look forward to seeing these presentations.
Would you be able or interested, in doing a new video on Russian BTG/Battle Tactical Group?
Considering current events, such info could prove very informative for many. Thank you for your time!
this aged pretty well, russia finally getting into rhythm with the artillery phase of the war
this comment didn't age well though...
@@ThyRedCoats how? the russians stopped columns of bradlys and leopards with mines and artillery
@@starstray4326 Yep... and now the wolves are at the gates of Moscow
@@ThyRedCoatsthe dog was barking at its owner and got kicked out the house.
@@ThyRedCoats with a coup that did nothing?
Great stuff! Thanks for all the info.
The UK: Naval Firepower
The USA: Air Power
Russia: Tanks and Artillery
Bro the UK is less of a naval power than turkey
The UK: USA military
The days of UK pirating the rest of the world are gone
I just want to say that Russia is still pretty protected against air (usa) becose russia have best missiles in the world. Doesn't matter what type of missile.
@Alex Surname yeah
*God is on the side with the best artillery.*
*-Napoleon Bonaparte*
*looks at the date this was posted
Well, this is obsolete.
Does russia have a heavy weapons team or some similar squad? I wonder how the AGS-30 is supposed to be deployed
AGS is a battalion weapon, I believe deployed as a platoon, whose sections are attached to motor rifle companies.
@@BattleOrder Thank you, very interesting
Motor Rifle Battalion can have a AGS platoon of three sections with two launchers in each. Each section have its own BTR or BMP (depending on the type of motor rifle battalion) and usually is attached to each of the maneuver companies of the battalion. AGS platoon is rarely used together.
usually the NBC troops have the most terrifying infantry weapons (i.e. shmel flamethrowers); I forget what formation they can be attached in, maybe a company, but they're not present in every battalion and even brigade.
@@Pythoner I'll tell you more. Bumblebees are generally absent in the overwhelming number of divisions. According to the state, they are available only to the troops of "Radiation, Chemical and Bacteriological Protection".
Battery Senior Officer can be not only Senior Lieutenant, but just Lieutenant. I'm not senior, yet I have been tought as BSO. (If you name it Senior Officer of Battery, abbreviation will be just like in russian)
The maximum combat reach of the US artillery was 30 km with smart ammunition, maybe the"bad guys" are only out at that range, or they were unable to discover enemies at further range, but ayway, 30 km was the maximum US used combat range.
Was the maximum range? Or is?
What weapon systems are we talking about? The M777 or Paladin, or????
The US ERCA sytem has a range of 70km...
erca with ramjet is going to reach 130 km lol
I would lime to see a material about RF Rocket artillery force and counter battery strategies/tactics.
these guys don't seem to be very good in real life
why?? only because you have seen them destroyed?? think about the damaged they made
@@biejaleslol1225 Exactly! The billions of dollars lost because these tanks cost a lot and then it goes BOOM!
Not including the IFVs (BMPs, D's and MT-LBs)
Emotional damage.
@@biejaleslol1225 ignoring media reports I have seen them invade Ukraine 3 months ago with their entire army and their entire usable air force they have fought for 3 months they have lost with massive casualties around Kiev they have lost with massive casualties around karkev it is quite possible for Ukraine to carry on advancing into Russian territory now on opposed I've watched them throw their entire army now at the Donbass line of defence for nearly a month and a half and they have gained a couple of villages if you had any idea of their ammunition expenditure you would probably pass out that have they hit anything without ammunition I doubt it You see in the corrupt disgusting evil Russian army soldiers are given a quota of fire missions so they point the gun in the general direction and blast off the allotted quantity of ammunition no one gives two shits if it hits anything they've met their quota why do you love the Russians mate why are you speaking up for them does invading an innocent country and raping and murdering sound appealing to you just think about the timeline and stop watching shit videos on RUclips that are paid for by Moscow what has actually happened is that the Russian army air force and the navy have completely failed and ask yourself why a country with such a vast resources and vast expenditure on defence cannot invade their smaller neighbour which spends one 100th of what they do on defence and they have failing in their attempt they have destroyed the Russian army the Black sea fleet is now hiding in port and their air force is crippled the economy will be 50% the size it was at the start of the invasion within 4 years what will the Russians do then eat shit cuz that's all they'll have left
@@biejaleslol1225 yes, indiscriminate strikes on Kharkiv are all they can do.
@@biejaleslol1225 The damage they made to civilian cities, they can't do shit to actual military targets, especially when they are stuck in miles long convoys getting drone striked.
Nice video esp the battalion Organization structure …very clear
Great work! But I hope I will never see RUS forces displayed with milsymbols for "own/allied" forces again!
I wonder how much damage the nuclear round does to abrams if it directly lands on it
Modernised puma panzer grenadier divisions please
“Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl.” Frederick the Great
Only because the artillery men don't have to see what their shells do
Wargame players: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN!
I don't get it. Please explain
@@MBTIinRealLife right so there is this game called:
"Wargame: Red Dragon" it is a rts set in an alternate history where WW3 starts and you are in control of a 'Deck' from 2 factions (Bluefor vs Redfor) and its members.
Each member/country has it's own Division and you get to choose Infantry, Support, Logistics, Recon, Vehicle, Helicopter, Air Force units.
The Soviet Union is part of the Redfor faction and since it has a Support Tab, you can choose Artillery/MRLS/Mortars, etc so players who search guides look for tips and tricks regarding the use of the Support units, that's why I wrote "Write that down" because it isnt just a reference to Bob&Sponge but to the players (specially newbies) who are constantly learning on how to properly play Wargame:Red Dragon.
This video helps because it explains the realistic artillery doctrine Russia uses in real life so players might try to apply what was explained in this video in Wargame.
1st time i see this channel. Pretty much realistic explanation
(Deserve abo absolutely)
The Koalitsiya-SV Range of fire with standard projectile is around 30 km and around 40 km with rocket-assisted projectile. A new long-range precision-guided round has been developed. It has a maximum range of 70 km. The Koalitsiya-SV KSh is also capable of firing older Krasnopol laser-guided munitions with a range of 20-25 km.
US army has a new super howitzer to enter service soon (planned for 2023) . M1299 SPH uses M109A7 chassis and gun cab but upgraded with a 58 caliber long gun barrel. with a super charge and new rocket assisted round it can hit targets beyond 70km. This new HE projectile also is compatible with PGK fuse to achieve near precision.
The God-Emperor will not approve of your heretical admiration for the achievements of these dark mechanicals
koalitsya goes out to 80km
I just noticed on rewatch that the nuclear round hit Kyiv. Brutal.
Well, the only nation that successfuly survives 7 years of war with Russia, lmao
@@ЯБезымянный-о5ф 🤣
Always a good thing when you have Arti as your friend. Nice vid!
Greets, T.
Ah, one of those newfangled Ukrainian farm vehicles!
Damn, I fell in love with your channel. Such a wonderful example of ruzzia apologists in the comments. Can't wait to read more in future videos, I hope you'd pick the same title and content for the next video.
Popcorn is reserved for sure fella!
The newest are 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV, fully automated & up to 80km range firing
"Now compare that to American howitzers firing ammo worth $68-128 thousand per round."
Don't like Putin, but I love that firepower
Thanks for the HOI4 template ideas
I like the russian doctrine on high number of artillery units. The US army's advantage is that each divsion operates with 2 squadrons of 24 apaches each along with other aviation battalions. US army's (3 corps) 75th field artillery brigades 5 battalions of mlrs need to wipe out the vast number of russian guns or the Russians high number of guns will lay havoc to the maneuver units.
Not to mention their rocket forces, those thermobaric rockets (flamethrower) are devastating. They have been used in Ukraine and have taken out entire companies in a few minutes.
Watch Phillip Karver’s lectures on the Russian military and ops in Ukraine, he speaks about the use or arty/rockets at length.
@@Sol_Invictus510 Sorry to ruin your delusion, but Russia is not and a side in civil war on ukraine and never participate in that conflict.
@@ПетрВрангель-т8п let's not try to play this game and troll on RUclips for fun. Ypur not fooling anyone and your just a loset at home playing games.
@@frankiecalsone8536 the apaches face tor, tunguska, and those missiles can shoot an apache farther then it can shoot. The apaches obviously help the maneuver units to wipe out mechanized/ tank companies in their way.
@Alex Surname funny that you don’t even know your countries nickname for your rocket system, but you can also say that no Russian forces have fought in Ukraine.
That kind of delusion is expected, I had a Russian tell me that they won ww2 on their own and the Americans never helped supply the ussr with American made gear to cover for their losses.
There is plenty of evidence showing modern Russian tanks t72s fighting in Ukraine 🤦♂️ with modern era. Such as in dontesk airport, while being chased down by rpg wielding infantry. There have been documented cases of the thermobarics being used to wipe out multiple companies in minutes.