Upgrade TopWisdom to Ruida RDC 6445 Laser Controller - CNC Co2 Laser Machine
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- In this video I remove the TopWisdom TL-410C controller from a Red/Black 80W Laser and Install a Ruida RDC-6445G controller (Available from Cloudray Laser amzn.to/2XD7tuI).
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The PDF Document with all the configuration settings for the Red & Black Chinese Laser with a work area of 700x500mm is discussed in this Guide.
(Please Note: This can also be adapted for use with other cutting area sizes, and settings are used to help with initial setup only and will need to be fine tuned to your specific machine, The Trocen 708 Series Configuration settings are NOT discussed in the PDF Guide)
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Info how I did this change over can be found below with links to sections of the video by clicking on the time stamps.
The steps I used were inspecting the current configuration and take notes, them remove the old TopWisdom Controller. (See 1:09)
I printed out the wiring diagrams for both the TopWidsom and Ruida Controller, to compare wiring configurations. I numbered the connections on both diagrams to make sure the wiring changeover went smoothly (See 2:05)
Print another copy of the TopWisdom controller to use that as labels for the wires in the machine with the current setup (see 2:19)
After removing the old controller I commenced the installation of the Ruida controller (See 3:00)
Once all connections were checked and checked again it’s time to turn on the power (See 3:50)
The initial display language is in Chinese so here I show how to change it to English (See 4:15)
To change to English, Press Menu, Press down arrow 3 times, press enter, press enter again on the 1st option, them press down arrow twice and press enter. This should now be in English.
NOTE: The controller needs to be configured to your machine's requirements, note the information displayed is for my particular machine, if you have a machine like this the settings may be the same but due to manufacturing differences there may be other settings that are required to suit your particular setup.
At (5:08) I show the 'Manufactory' settings I was able to use on my machine with the help of Bill who had done this changeover himself on his machine with success. I show settings here that you can pause and review if you need to, see NOTE above. The password for the settings on this controller is RD8888
8:59 - I designed a console to house the controller, ammeter and temperature gauge, using Black Satin Acrylic from Trotec (engraving-supplies.com.au) Then using SCIGRIP Acrylic adhesive Welded the pieces together (See 9:40)
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Covering the internals of your machine with rags to catch filings drill and screw the console to the machine and feed through the wires to the console, not shown (See 10:39)
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I’m trying to do this tomorrow thank you
Thanks - hope it all goes well. Cheers Matt
Thank you so much for this video very useful sir, I have a rdc6445sz and I need replace for one who has ccd sensors to read registration marks
Update. I now have RDWORKS working with this controller. The new version install of RD works resolved the issues.
Excellent. My JQ laser uses software that requires a 32 bit computer which has just died! Was pulling my hair out. This is an ideal solution.
If you have not already upgraded... This may help... I have been working on a new document to upgrade from the 32bit Leetro controller to a Ruida. The video has been recorded and is currently being edited, so I hope to have the video and documentation released within the next few weeks.
@@MWLaser all swapped out (Cloud Ray, motherboard and drivers) customer services very helpful, but still having teething problems! Looking forward to the new video
Hi Matt, Very informative video. I also use Lightburn, with a black and red co2 100W laser. The laser seems to stay on between steps, so it marks the work surface.
What controller are you using? email more info to matt@mwlaser.com.au
I going to put in a RuiDa 6445G into my Golden Laser 13070, Can not figer out how to set it up for a working size 1300 x 700
I did your setups very big thanks but I need to activate pulse for the laser
laser should only activate pulse with water supply flowing through laser
Здравствуйте, скажите к ruida 6445 можно подключить сразу 4 головы (трубки)?
Where to get those sheets or diagrams?
I am about to upgrade my controller, I was hoping there was an easy way to copy the current settings for the machine to it. Have you ever tried to use lightburn or rdworks to export or import settings? I hope it just works.
Hi thanks for video ,can someone tell me if its better idea to pay extra and get ruida version from beginning? On 50w cutter and why its better this way,thanks
Yes a Ruida controller is preferable to the TopWisdom controller and worth the extra $$ . They are a much easier controller to use and configure, they are also compatible with much better software such as RD Works or LightBurn
I am thinking of doing the same thing with my topwisdom controller. Did you have to note all the parameters of the steppers and other info off the topwisdom before you removed it?
How did you go? did your new controller arrive yet?
Controller arrived yesterday but I am away on vacation in Mexico. I’ll be able to get at it next week once I get back. It’ll help me keep my mind off the bitter cold I hope.
Hi Matt!! I’m converting the top wisdom to the 6445 right now do I just connect all the wires that are labeled on the tl-410 to the same labeled wires on the ruida?
Like lmt-Y+ on CN-1 would go to the CN4 lmtY+ on the ruida?
The ruida CN1 doesn’t list a lmtY+ wire
The only lmtY+ is on CN4 for the ruida
I’m assuming you had to extend some wires like the 24v+ and ground
Do you have a more detailed explanation for switching the brains?
Thanks :)
Hi, I'm happy to help, Can you email for support using email address in description. Thanks
Thank you for sharing. I picked up a yellow 80w machine produced in 2012 but only has 2 hours on it. I plan to install this same controller. Any advise before I make the purchase? I live in the USA if it matters.
No extra advice. The RDC6445 is an excellent choice.
@@MWLaser Thank you, I ordered this morning from Cloudray, China. $220 USD on sale.
I have an option to by this same laser from sail works used (originally purchased in 2015) but it has a chines laser and the none-Ruida controller for $1000.00 USD I'm thinking I may need to update the controller (as you did) and get a new laser tube. I wanted to ask you if you thought I should spend a bit more money and get a chinese machine that already has these upgrades installed from the Chinese factory? Thank you!
Sorry I cannot give advice on a machine I don't know history of and is unseen or tested. Cheers Matt
Will these instructions for parameterws work for ruida 6442s? If not do you have those directions?
Yes the wiring for the 6442 and 6445 are the same.
The configuration settings for controller using Rdworks is in the documentation.
Please choose the latest Software RDWorks V8.01.34 for Controller RDC6445G.
Latest version is now 8.01.38
Newer Version V8.01.48 also available mwlaser.com.au/sdm_downloads/rd-works-v8-01-48/
Hi Matt! I'm hoping you may be able to help.. I have a same Chinese laser (except the 60 watt version) and have just installed the exact same controller using your video here as a guide. The problem is that my laser keeps turning on and showing the laser at position 10000x,10000y. To correct it, I have to reset the lasers position but it keeps hitting the x axis boundary on the left and making a horrendous grinding noise, which I know is not good for my motor. The wiring is all correct, and the boundary switches are fine as when I reset it recognized the boundrys on both x and y. Did this happen to you at all? If so, how did you correct it?
Yes after installing the new controller this will happen, but you need to stop or press esc when powering in the machine so that it does not hit the sides and grind on the axis.
To fix this you will need to make settings changes in the controller for the size of the working bed and the acceleration as well as step settings. I can assist you with this if you want. email me using matthew@mattsworkshop.net or go to my web address and start a facebook message from the homepage www.mattsworkshop.net
Hello,
I’m having the exact same issue. Is the email still good to use to contact you? Thank you so much
Do you know if the rdc6445 panel will work on rdc6442 mainboard? It seems most the functionality is the same, it’s just difference button layout and screen size
No you should not use the RDC6445 panel with the RDC6442 mainboard. They have different functions and menu systems, in short If you connect a RDC6445G panel to RDC6442G controller, it can work but you will have many errors, such as:
When you read file from controller, it will hang / freeze up.
Files will not display correctly on the screen.
The function of some keys on the RDC6445G will not work.
I'm also trying to replace the laser controller to RDC6445G.
However, the stepper motor gets step-out. The pulse width seems to be too short.
When pushing arrow keys on RDC6445G, each motor on the X or Y axis gives high-tone sounds, but it doesn't rotate (sometimes it rotates slightly).
When setting 1/4 division pulse width on the stepper motor driver, the motor rotates but the moving width and the resolution also shrinks to 1/4. I'm in trouble.
By the way, I'm using the 17HS4401 stepper motor and the TB6600 stepper motor driver.
Do you have some information on how to set up the pulse width of the stepper motors on RDC6445G?
I'm trying to change the values in the "Manufactory settings" menu of RDC6445G, but it doesn't get better.
I'd suggest contacting support from your supplier. If you don't have any success there then email me and I'll try my support contacts for you.
kiddovp@gmail.com
does this version work with lightburn?
The rdc6445 works very well with lightburn.
I decided to go with a 6442S instead. I rewired everything but hit one problem. The TL-403CB controller that was in the machine uses 5V/3A according to the diagram, but the RDC says it takes 24v. Did you have an issue with that? Our engineer here says we might need to wire a separate power supply for the new controller/box.
Hi Kevin, No I did not run in to this issue. The controller I had was a TL-40C it used 24v supply.
Check your power supply for the controller, the one I have has dual voltage outputs, it supplies both 24V and 5V
If your power supply only provides 5V then yes you will need a separate 24v for the RDC controller.
Cheers Matt
Matts Workshop Thanks for all the help! We looked over all the documentation and can not find a 24v supply. He’s going to wire a separate DC power supply and hopefully we’ll be running today. Cheers!
Just ordered a 100w with the top wisdom controller and need to do a ruida swap. That’s the model I’m looking it. How do you like it? Would you go with something else if you had to do it again?
No, if I was to do something like this again I'd probably choose the same controller again, it works extremely well.
Matts Workshop Great! I took a class at a local makerspace and they used Inkscape then exported to RDworks before sending it to the machine. Lightburn allows you to do everything from the same software? I see in the comments below you’re using RDworks now. Any advice?
Hi@@kevincoates1597 I mainly use Lightburn for all my work on the laser, I mention RD Works only because that is the software provided by the controller manufacturer RuiDa, and because is provided with the controller.
Cheers Matt
I'm in the process of this project myself. Any suggestions at the various settings that need to be changed on the new controller. I have the same laser as you except 100W.
I see you have some links to info. I'll check that out.
Thanks Josh, If you require any information don't hesitate to ask, I'm more than happy to assist. Cheers Matt
Thanks Matt. I must say I am a little confused on the wiring. Seems like their are several wiring diagrams in the Ruida user manual and I'm not sure which one I should be using. Maybe all of them. Seems like each diagram serves a different purpose. The Top Wisdom diagram seems to be pretty straight forward.
Hope you figure it out, I'm sure you will like the new controller. I mainly used the diagram of the main board on page 10 of the most current manual for the RDC-6445 controller, matching up the connection plugs labeling with the connection labels from the TL-410c controller. They were all labelled similarly so there wasn't much guess work involved. Cheers Matthew
Correction - Page 10 of the PDF, however the bottom of the page is labeled as Page 6 :)
Hi Matthew.
Check, please, your system info+.
Menu->controller setting->system info+.
Param ~Total on time~ on my new panel is more than 416 hours. Is it OK?
Thanks. Regards, Maksim.
Hi Maxim Yes, mine came with hours on time too - I can only suggest maybe while unit was at manufacturer testing.
To clear the time values - Open RD Works (I use v8.01.34)
Select -> File -> Vendor Settings (Enter password RD8888)
Select Tab -> Clear Info
Select the Values you want to reset and Click -> Execute
Enter Password RD8888 -> Enter
:) Matthew
It's, maybe, firmware from old worker machine.
@@maksimsoft I had email from Cloudray where they quote ... "The controller from us are new. The showing hours is our ageing test time."
Regards Matt
Same quote)
For Current version of RDWorks use this link (the current version to date is v8.01.40)
www.rd-acs.com/search.aspx?key=rdworks&fbclid=IwAR0GAnClLKJZyzZvpuQthmP9_ahzcjMG5khFYj2KK-VlhBBvyLIRDVMr_OI