Japan Airlines collision: Why evacuation was 'miraculous'
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Investigations into the collision between a Japan Airlines aircraft and a smaller coast guard plane at Haneda Airport on Jan 2 are ongoing. READ MORE: str.sg/igg2
While five of the six coast guard plane crew members were killed, all 379 passengers and crew escaped the Airbus A350 aircraft unscathed.
Mr Gary Ho, a senior lecturer in aviation management at Temasek Polytechnic weighs in on how those onboard JL516 managed to evacuate safely and smoothly.
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This video just taught me how important it is, to:
1) carry the most important documents in your pockets or maybe like a shoulder pouch
2) simply OBEY everything the flight crew says
3) remain calm in such a situation
The importance of staying calm and following instructions is really on display here. Also the fact that Japanese culture is so disciplined and the people are so calm. I can't imagine this going as smoothly in most other parts of the world. Everyone out in 90 seconds while the aircraft was on fire is beyond fantastic. Kudos to Japan Airlines and their team, props to Airbus for such a strong and well insulated aircraft, and massive respect to the passengers for doing what they should to make sure they all came out alive.
Everyone was not out in 90 seconds. Last person evacuated 18 minutes after the crash.
You are wrong, evacuation was 18min.
@@zoranmanojlovic862 Even better! It's awesome.
I’m an American and U.S. Air 1549 everyone was disciplined and paid attention and were able to make it off the plane alive. This accident in Japan is truly a miracle and I mourn the loss of the service members. Great job from the crew.
There is nothing more terrifying than a plane still moving and on fire because evacuation cannot start until the plane comes to a stop. When I was a stewardess, this was my nightmare.
Part of SQ006?
So scary. Omgoodness, I would be losing my sh if i was on that plane.
You are spot on. I'm American. Had this collision occurred in the USA, maybe half of the passengers might've died due to arguing with the flight crew, grabbing their bags, and just plain denial of the emergency situation in progress. I applaud the Japanese nationals for their discipline and calm demeanor.
it should be possible to grab your small carry on without messing up the entire process. Im not leaving my cat or laptop in a burning plane
@TheInsultInvestor I think they did not attempt to open overhead storage. Likely things within touch were taken. Pet carriers have to fit under your seat, at your feet.. Always wear shoes with laces or straps to stay on during evacuation.
The aircraft was also on the ground if it happened in flight everyone would be dead
Exactly what I was thinking. It didn't used to be that way.
As the plane was on fire, there would have been ten Karens shouting down the stewardesses to demand a detailed answers to "Why is there smoke in the cabin?" "What is this plastic thing dangling in front of my face?" ...
the first thing I thought when I saw the video was "my god how many poor people burned to death" when I found out every passenger lived, it BLEW my mind. this is such amazing work by that air crew. I dont know if people realize how much of a miracle this is. like I cannot stress this enough, only 3 of the 8 exits were usable, for 400 people. this is almost unbelievable! WOW, I hope everybody on that crew know they are real life superheros.
I agree that Japanese are highly disciplined people. Another thing, is the safety protocol being implemented by the airline and the crew themselves. I am sad knowing that five crew from the cargo plane were killed. But the level of preparation in the airport itself was excellent! Hopefully, lessons from the incident will be drawn out and new guidelines will be implemented in days and years to come. God bless!
Maybe it's time to change the title of "Cabin Crew" to "Safety Crew" to help signify their real duty onboard the aircraft and not be abused by passengers for the choice of meals. Passengers ought to realize that crew are not their personal butler or porter, and many people would never want to see or experience first hand of what they are trained to do.
Flight crews are highly trained for emergency situations. Kudos to them and to the passengers as well for remaining calm during what must have been a terrifying situation.
One important factor not mentioned that contributed to the safe evacuation is the prompt response of the airport fire emergency response which controlled the spread of the fire!
Japan alirlines crews are the most professional, nice in this industry. I love flying on Japan airlines.. Much respect and love to the crew.. It's amazing how everyone on that flight got out alive.
When you get a combination of the ‘right people’ together, this is what happens.
and what happenend exactly. A preventable crash. Stop making ridiculous arguments.
@@woltervandenberg Even though one incident is too many, Japan isn't the top 20 countries with the highest number of fatal civil airliner accidents from 1945 to 2022. Look it up, or are you afraid to see your country being listed ?
@@zerase84 I don't think the Netherlands is doing bad in that regard but this has nothing to do with nationality and I never claimed it did. This accident should not have happened period. Not in Japan or anywhere else for that matter.
If they were all right then the coastguard plane wouldn't have been on the runway and the accident would've never happened.
Using the world "miracle" for this situation implies that God (of the Bible) is to be found somewhere in the equation.
The A350 held up well to the collision and that played a part, as well.. along with calm crew + calm passengers. Those passengers were remarkably calm, I was expecting screaming and crying and people pushing forward through the aisles and climbing over the seats, but there was none of that. I hope everyone will take note of how this was done and realize this is how they need to behave and react if they ever find themselves in this type of situation.
Thanks to great coordination among crew and passengers, they succeeded in saving all lives on board, professional training !!
Seeing the video of the burning aircraft, its a miracle no one was fatally injured. Got to hand it to the Japanese. Their self discipline and compliance to instructions from people in authority makes a huge difference. God bless the soul of those from the Coast Guard plane. Rest in Peace 🙏🙏🙏
Love Japanese culture and the nature of its people. Nothing nicer than a politeness ❤
Me too and my sons. We want to go there someday. They are polite and dignified! Unlike these days, living in tacky America! Sorry to have to sound so negative but it's a true fact I see it almost every single day, people in their pajamas, driving you off the road, cutting in front of you in the grocery store. Never saying Thank you! The list goes on.
IT WAS MORE PROFESSIONAL THAN MIRACULOUS IN MY OPINION ;
Culture really plays a significant role in this situation, both on the airline side and the passenger side. Glad that all passengers got out safe and fantastic job to everyone in this evacuation, very efficient
Had this happen in the US, people would crowd the aisle and some will argue with Flight attendance over stupid pronounce.
Some people are so hard on each other with these comments. Sometimes people make a positive comment that someone has to pick apart.....like someone innocently calling this a miracle. Sometimes people simply use the word miracle when something good and remarkable happens....often when it is something that could have turned out badly. I just want to add how impressed with the flight crew and the very calm passengers....great teamwork between the crew and the passengers. And these are just my own humble thoughts.
Their mutual respect and discipline culture struck me when I noticed everyone queues when going up/down escalators at train stations. No cutting in front even if you come out of a train door at the front of the queue. You jolly well walk all the way to the back of the queue.
I make it a point to always remind my friends and loved ones about the significance of staying alert and memorizing the safety videos shown before the aircraft takes off when they go on trips.
***BRAVO, Job well done to all the Flight Attendants***..in keeping focused, your training and experience was displayed in this remarkable speedy, safety and accountability of all your passengers. I do believe the Japanese Culture played a big factor in this focused discipline of Human Survival moment. We as Americans and as a society need to respect. Peace be with you.
If it would be in India ....atleast half of the passengers would not made it becoz of their luggage and panic
Can of coke & 10 straws
USA, too.
Just on the 2nd of Jan,something i would typically not search,but i was led to so i came on youtube And typed "why plane crash"and in watching several videos.
I found myself just praying and thank God,that he truly watches over us while we're up there because it's a lot risk.
Woke up today and saw this news.God did save them, This was Indeed a miracle they all got off Safe And sound
Many might not have been believers, many will not agree with me but I bless God for this because he saved these people.
I try my best when I'm flying to know where the emergency exits are and how many rows I am from the exits just in case it's hard to see where those exits are. It's also important to do your best to listen to what you are being told during an emergency and don't panic. When you panic you don't think clearly which can cause you and others to die. Like they said on the video leave your bags behind because when you are grabbing those you are keeping others who want to live from getting off of the plane. If your bags are so important then let everyone get off before you and then you can get your bags. Carrying your bags off of the plane could actually tear a hole in the slide making it useless and in this accident they only had three slides out of eight that they were using.
Personal items can be replaced, but a life cannot be. I think everyone on that plane followed instructions and so the evacuation process happened without any issue.
Good report. Nice, vocals. No studdering, knowledge is key.
No American carrier demands that window blinds are raised. None. I’m ex cabin crew from the UK and this concerns me.
They got to escape because they did not panic. I was sitting in the very back of a crowded double bus when it caught fire under me the huge lady in front of me that was taking two seats stood up and pronounced loudly "we'd all better get the hell off of this bus". It was perfect they let her go first then we followed.😊
What this man is explaining at the end of the video should be said few times before landing by the crew instead of asking who wants to purchase duty free items, feel sorry for the coast guard who lost their life on the spot, happy for the survivors indeed they had the most amazing attitude.
Bravo to the crew, saving everyone!!!
Japanease are disciplined ppl
This happened because of Japanese culture. If it were an international flight the picture would have been different because of the collection of different nationals.
There were 12 Australians on board as well. Just saying.
They are extremely civilized and disciplined people period.
It is true that Japanese people are calm in case of any accident. They don`t panic. In the case of JAL123 as well, the passengers kept being calm even though the plane was almost like a roller coaster and was destined to crash on the ground. There is an audio recording inside the plane and it shows that every passenger was silent. It may sound strange for non-Japanese but it`s true. I remember that some foreign reenactment dramas about JAL123 , the passengers were panicking crying over-exaggeratedly to make scenes dramatic. But such scenes are different from reality. I am glad that this video gets to the point about this aspect.
2:04 , I’ve not seen an estimate of the actual time it took to evacuate, but the stream of people I see coming down the slide here is many times faster than what we usually see.
Ah now I know why we were asked to straighten the chair and upped the blinds. That’s an insight thanks! I always followed but never crossed my mind to ask why.
Very well said Gary. Thank you!
Great interview! So educational! Thank you! And God bless them all…
Just being Japanese 👍
Best explanation video on this accident so far. But “90 seconds” is a wrong information. It took 18 minutes from 5:47 (collision) to 6:05 ( the captain’s evacuation) according to the announcement from JAL itself.
Where did this “90 seconds” report come from? Maybe they counted the time in a different way?
We need to add airlines regulatory policy for stewardess to demonstrate or video play safety evacuation procedure to NOT bring baggage if emergency arrived
This is a textbook example!!! Just wow, it shows how important it is to obey instructions like Japanese culture
People don't even pay attention to safety demonstrations anymore. Most people will be staring at their phones and have them ready to record all the videos we saw.
Airlines should incentivize passangers to pay attention to these safety demos. The demos should be avalible on RUclips and on inflight entertainment systems. They can have the passangers take and pass a safety quiz on board to get free in-flight wifi.
If you pay attention to the every cabin crew anouncement, you would know they already give instruction to leave all your baggage and shoes off because that is required by law………. that is if you pay attention. 🤔
It's so regretting and saddening that not even one mentioning, footage coverings, or detailing emerged about the "coast guard" plane at all.
Very informative video
This accident answered the aviation’s biggest question. Can 379 passengers evacuate in 90 seconds? Yes. Mystery solved
There were only TWO serviceable slides since the back slide was deployed by mistake and NOBODY used it because it was too steep and too near to the fire. I'd like to know why the fire spread so slowly that passengers took 18 minutes to evacuate, not 90 seconds like they always claim to practice.
Its a five mins evacuation. Not 90 seconds. This is confirmed by one of the passengers onboard that plane. It took 10 mins to catch the fire insids the plane.
This just shows how well Airbus engineered the A350 and this is why its the safest passenger plane in the world!
Miracle? Yes, but this is not the first time all passengers survived a commercial plane fire. Egypt air 667 is just one example.
Cabin crew makes a different. People are focusing on the passengers being Japanese, yes that’s one angle, but it’s more than just that for sure!
The passengers did not panic.
You should never panic in situations like this always remain calm.
It’s becoming clear that the evacuation took a whole 18 minutes with three exits open. Aim times are to evacuate in 90 seconds over 4 exits.
Clearly the cabin staff did an amazing job, but they were really lucky the plane resisted burning up for that long. In other air disasters people have died if they hadn’t left the aircraft in 5 or 6 minutes. So I think even in this case the question ‘why 18 minutes’ will become important.
When I heard about the accident and saw the video, I looked over several news reports, that never really stated where the Coast Guard Dash 8 plane was. One report that I heard stated that one eye-witness stated that A350's wing collided with the nose cone of the Dash 8. Which made me think that the Dash 8 crossed over the Hold Short line markings. But, since reports are still sketchy, I'm still wondering how and where the Dash 8 was positioned at the time of the accident... and even if the Dash 8 had actually had taken the active runway upon landing of the A350.
Video taken in daylight the next day shows the Dash 8 was on the runway, lined up for takeoff. Hopefully more images showing the positions of both planes become available soon.
@@JD-nt2sc OK. I just watched a report from Sky News in Austrailia that their interviewee stated that the Dash 8 took the active runway, waiting for takoff. So, now the question is: Did the Dash 8 receive clearance to cross the hold short marks on the apron and prepare for takeoff on the active runway by Ground or did the Dash 8 pilot misunderstood the Ground controller's instructions. I'm also wondering what the Dash 8 pilot's readback was to Ground. Time will tell.
Watch Blancolirio channel report. Dents in both A350 engine cowlings that seem to match up with left & right wings of Dash 8. Nosecone & front landing gear broken on A350 as though hitting the high tail of Dash 8. Apparently both planes headed in same direction & a bullseye hit.
No doubt there are impact point marks to be found on runway. On a runway covered with tire marks in the main gear touchdown zone it may be hard to say exactly which ones are from this A350, If main gear is down and nose wheel still high in the air the nose up attitude might mean the A350 pilot never saw the Dash 8.
Yes u are rigth sir GOD BLESS US ALL 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Thank God the emergency shute did not malfunction because of the fire
Wow I feel bad 😞
100% I am an ex crew myself - safety, safety, safety is always first. Everything else is secondary.
18 mins is shocking.
Yes the people waited for instructions but more important is this was a low speed, low crash force accident. The smaller plane was still on the runway and hadn't reached high speed yet. The larger aircraft was coming down, slowing down, so the crash wasn't like losing control and slamming into the ground or a mountain or building. I saw the very first video when the majority of the flames seemed to be in the area of the initial contact. Initially it was more isolated, then as things heated and ruptured and fuel spilled out everywhere it quickly engulfed the aircraft. I was a little surprised when I saw it several hours later and it had totally destroyed it and it broke into several pieces. This is what we normally see because the fuel, crash speed cause the immediate destruction that takes most lives. These people will hopefully live their lives with the knowledge they almost lost it.
so what about coast guard plane crew, is they safe or not?
5/6 died
Yeah... Had this been a SPIRIT flight w/ American passengers . They would have all died.
Usually if a plane remains intact evacuations usually happen rapidly.
glad there is no Karens from the states.
Every single JAL crew and employee are painfully aware of the JAL123 crash in August 1985 at Mt. Osutaka. (The crash was due to complete mechanical failure after faulty repairs done in the US.) The tragic accident and painful suffering is drilled into all airline employees, air traffic controllers, and airport ground crew in Japan from time of training and selection, or even before joining the pre-selection. It was the single worst aviation accident in Japanese history.
and it looks like the impact was nose to tail if this had been a broadside hit as the dash 8 turned onto the runway this might have been very very ugly
Fire resistant materials on the plane did it's job.
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Old planes must check for fatique n cracking . No screws loosening save passengers.
It's possible because of superior Japanese training and efficiency, and also because Shaniqua and LaShonda weren't on board screaming about their 'rights'.
If this incident in Philippines may be all passenger are charred because they will insist to get their hand carry baggage. Very important is discipline and good crew training they are hero.
its not a miracle, its part of the design of plane, and procedures. they design for a minimum 90 seconds. the crew performed and the passengers were awesome. i always count seats to exit forward and aft for both sides.
Airbus make quality aircraft 🙂
Disciplined culture is on everyone’s lips. Follow the instructions of the crew , having flown from this airport to Osaka and Narita to Heathrow, and Narita to Bangkok , you have to appreciate the obedience culture in the Japanese.
the disciplined culture, not obedience.
It's in the system.
only 2 years old funny because other reports listed its tail number and said it was built in 2015 making it 8-9 years old not two
Also check the gradient of the slides. They are lower than normal because of the collapsed gears meaning people couldn't jump and slide. It takes longer to force yourself to slide instead of gravity do the job for you.
I worked for JAL joining just after the 1985 accident. It would have been heart breaking to lose passengers or crew knowing how safety driven they are. This seems to be human error and RIP to the 5 deceased coast guard personnel.
I believe there was a communication error among those involved. By international agreement English is the official language of air traffic. It is a second language to the pilots and ATC. a simple comprehension mistake could have led to an incursion.
I think Japanese people are accustomed to disaster in the form of fires, earthquakes and tsunamis where compliance with safety recommendations has proven to be a good idea. If you are in an earthquake zone where fires could break out, with the risk of rapidly advancing tsunami with the possibility of death if you don't do the right thing
No other nationality is as discipline as Japan. Btw, what if there is an XXL person in such a situation? Can the FAA review this?
The pilot was the last person off at 18 minutes. There was lots of time, everyone could have just sauntered off with their own personal luggage.
The question is, why couldn't the fire department stop this from burning to nothing?
It is not a miracle, the airplane had no emergency fuel. If you look at the footage, the burning was from the undercarriage, it was from the fuel from the small plane, much of the damage is sustained while sliding on the runway. The front landing gear struck the smaller plane. The nose damage is not due to impact to the small plane but on the ground and then the aircraft bounced. The evidence is the slit that both engines have meaning the engines hit the wings. Structurally, the A350 was safe but then because of the abrasion of the undercarriage and then the fuel from the small plane it started to burn. I am bewildered why the Japanese tried to put out the flame using water. Is that normal to put out a gasoline fire? I would say this is a very lucky event, although there are some people whom died, but it could have been worst. And I don't understand why the Japanese just left it burning? No point? I still think this is a staged event, why C5, and not others? C5 is the exactly the landing point
In malaysia...we will have 1st check who is the bumiputras then others....that's how we operate..the chosen ones need to be rescued ..we have quota systems
Dude why portrait!
Also it s Airbus not BOEING....
Enough with the miracle crap, it's 2024 no need to believe in deities, they lived and escaped because of training and great crew work, plus the disciplined attitude of the mostly Japanese passengers.
It looks like the Coast Guard plane didn't follow procedures.
素晴らしいコメントに事実をありがとうございます。この緊急避難を指示されたＪＡＬのキャプテン、キャプテンクルーは国から表彰されるべきだと思います。航空火災の歴史に残る活きたテキストだと思います。私はＪＡＬ国際線に乗りますが他所のに乗るとＪＡＬの良さがいっそう感じられます。まず乗客が静かにしている。トイレがキャビンクルーに頻繁に掃除されて床が濡れてない。優しいし嫌な顔もせずお水ももらえる。
ルールを守りキャビンクルーを尊敬し、ルールを守り、非常の際はプロに従う❗
これに限ります。🇯🇵❤
Not a 'miracle' - it is because the Japanese are a disciplined people.
A lot of uninformed people vote for best Airlines based on inflight service to include food and how "nice" the Cabin Crew are. The reality is that Japan Airlines would be one of the worlds best airlines as the Cabin Crew did exactly what they at trained to do and did it exceedingly well. How the flight and cabin crew deal with incidents, flight punctuality and safety are the most critical for passengers, not food and fancy Cabins. That's why its best to ignore those silly 'best airline' websites.
They were all saved because the passengers obeyed instructions and didn’t try to take their luggage
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If it were Americans evacuating so orderly and obeying instructions, now that would be miraculous.
Well said, so often people waste precious time looking for phones, wallets & passports blocking aisles - have a sling bag or something similar that fits snugly over your chest were you can carry all those things hands free & not obstructing anyone or anything...take off your shoes they puncture the slide ... take off glasses ... and remember when you book your seat think about the worst case scenario, choose your seat wisely & your carry on luggage, take notice of where the exists are from your seat eg 5 rows in front turn left its black, smoky, people are panicking know where to go helps ... remember everyone has the same objective to get off so be calm, focused, helpful & you will get out...side note the flight crew are trained in the aircraft the fly in, they know every detail of its design & how to exit where & when, not you be polite like people on this flight were to the Japanese crew who had only a megaphone, there training & 90 second to evacuate
Please don't use this opportunity to disgrace passengers of other countries especially the USA. There were Americans inside this plane and they behaved just as good as the Japanese 👍
According to timeline released by JAL on NHK news, evacuation took more than 10 minutes to complete following the accident. 90 seconds is the regulatory requirement for aircraft certification.
3 exits were accessible out of the 8 available.
18 minutes from touchdown to the last passenger leaving the plane which includes the time rolling down the runway and to secure the aircraft before initiating an evacuation. It's still unclear how long it took to evacuate from the moment the first door was opened.
5 mins evacuation as confirmed by the passenger onboard the plane. Within 10-15 mins, fire came inside the plane.
JESUS CHRIST WAS TRAVELLING IN THIS AIRCRAFT, AND SAVED THESE PEOPLE FROM HELL.
Peace of God reigned. Thank you Lord 🙏
I always wondered shouldn't ut be called Japanese Airlines?
Thank you God, thank you God of Israel for this great miracle and saving the lives of these people and God I pray in the name of Jesus that you would save the souls now of The Beautiful People of Japan
Seriously can't stand his reporting and his pauses and drags in-between words. How can children speak well if a ST reporter speaks this way?! Way better to just let Gary speak!
Always trust Japan airline