300 Win Mag Accuracy International Mk13 Sniper Rifle Vortex Scope The Test Various Ammo Ransom Rest
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2020
- Accuracy matters. Ammo matters. how to test your rifles, and what is a sub MOA rifle.
So how do you test your rifle to find out how repeatable it is? How do you know what ammo it likes? No barrel is the same, no rifle is the same.
That round you discounted is it really because you flinched, or maybe the ammo did. Many ways to test a rifle and we feel this is the most accurate way to collect proper data. To remove as much human as possible.
Many people think they have a sub moa gun because one time at band camp they got a sub moa group. Does that really mean you have a sub moa gun? Many people test their rifle over and over until they get a small group then say there that's what the gun does. The other target don't count because I flinched. Well did you actually flinch? Sometimes a flinch can help your group, sometimes it wont.
We do not cherry pick the groups or the rounds. This is a real world test and real ammo group. No special formula. We did 5 rounds of each ammo to find out what the gun may like.
Next we will stretch this out to 200 yards and do the best of ammo, and group the tightest ammo..
Turns out this gun will eat basically anything and hold a pretty tight group.
Although the goal is to find best grouping of stock ammo. In this round of testing the Black Hills won the grouping at .562 MOA just under a .625 MOA.
The Federal had a close 2nd and Hornady also had a good group.
We will test these again at 200 and see what stands out.
Hope you enjoy, thank you for watching!
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Appreciate that. Great advertisement for the rest. Speaks well of build quality & performance.
If velocity data is available it would be a real service to the data geeks in our gun community. Thanks
Agree! 👌🏻😎👌🏻
I'm surprised this video doesn't have more likes and views, best method of testing accuracy.
Awesome vide, Michael.
Good job!
my custom 300 win mag loves my handloads with sub .5 groups but LOVES fed fusion 180 grain , sub .5 groups when I do my part .and that is sweet for a factory load even with different lots . its mind boggling. glad I bought about 50 boxes around 8 years ago when they were available . cant find them at all in the crazy world we live in now . the factory in Lewiston Idaho states they are running at top speed to supply but nothing EVER reaches the shelves SO ...........who the hell knows
sounds like a damn battletank going off.
Wow exactly what I needed for ammo info
Thank you sir!
Nice video I loved watching it.
Only thing is you didn't say what gr the Black Hills rounds were?
What were they? Thanks
Great experiment!
What keeps you from putting horizontal lines on the target to match the crosshairs of the scope?
I enjoyed this!
Excellent video, thanks! One can spend a small fortune and a ton of time finding good ammo.
G'day , lot of effort you have put into this video, thanks.
Do you recall the weight of the AI Remington 300 wm, please?
Thanks mate.
Andrew Nz
really good video what brand was the champion /?
Great video!!!
This is definitely interesting most of us would think it was our error and not the ammo!
The Black Hills is the 190gr. You can tell by the box. The other weights have different color boxes.
That’s how this should be done 👍👍
Uh...
I'm old. Things kinda fly right by me. It's part of the process and I just put up with it. Albeit, though I'm familiar with most of the weights and measures of most of these brands and loads, I have no idea what grain or what specs, or what Black Hills. I have become a believer in Hornady Precision Hunter, especially for 6.5 Creedmoor. But the Black Hills is intriguing. Please feel free to treat me like an addled old man as I'm quite married and used to it. But, while you're at it, please tell me what Black Hills 300 Win Mag load I'm shopping for? Thank you.
Good vid but did notice the recoil of the rifle moved the gun holding device and you did not perfectly center back on the same place every time. With the 165 you were getting it back to the same hold more consistently but it grouped much worse. I think that gave you a bigger group on the 150 than expected from your ammo. But its interesting to see what the different ammo will do with a gun like that. Keep the coming. On that 200 grain ELSX you could defiantly hear the wind on the 2 shots to the left.
Good video, test more please.
I see you have some black hills ammo are you around the south dakota area?
What grain was the Black Hills projectile ?
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Now that's how it's done! Great video.
With my Nemo Omen 300 WM with a 24" Proof Research carbon barrel I liked the federal berger hybrid in 185 grain.
What distance is this testing done at?
What a setup
My 300’s make the best groups with 180’s!
Exactly what I needed!
My 300 did not like 165 grain Hornday Custom BTSP. It did like the 180 blue box Federals. So I have a bunch of Hornady LOL
Not bad and your shoulder doesn’t even get sore
What's distance was???
Last group impressive
You're scientific style is the very best. Stick to it!
Precision hunters for the heavy, and fusions for the 180.
Remington core loks hit good as well
Well I'm seeing this a year latter, & my bare-bones
Savage 111LRH in. .300wm, just ABSOLUTELY loves Corbon factory ammo - consistently shooting sub 1/2" MOA @ 100 from my HYSKOR rest & with my hand loads of BARNES LRX scooting along at 3,202 fps @ a 100yds, from my rest, I can print smaller groups, conditions being just right,, with all that being said, I would truly like to try one of your tests. And - I have a VERY important question for you all,,,, why does a person have to spend
$$$$1,000.00's$$$$$ of dollars on a set up, when there are off the self EVERYDAY rifles out there capable of doing the same thing & in some cases better ????????????????
I had a Savage 110 chambered in 7mm Remington Mag that would shoot I’ll say sub moa at 200 yards with run of the mill Winchester 150 grainers, you’re absolutely correct about people spending money needlessly on overpriced garbage called “precision” these so called accuracy guys kill me when they talk a good game about a garbage overpriced piece of shit weapon
Cz shadow 2 50 yards ?
I own several AI's and that does not look like that is an AI build rifle. It looks like a Remington in an AI chassis. Am I wrong? Aside from that, love your videos. Please put an AIAX 6.5 in that vise, would be nice to see what my rifle could do without me interfering with its potential.
It's a MK13. I believe SOCOM contracted them with aiax chassis, r700 reciever, and lilja barrel in 300wm. This one has a proof barrel but otherwise appears to be a mk13.
it is a stiller mk13 action in a aics mk13 chassis.
Any cool down between groups
What was the Blackhill’s grain? You never said!
Black Hills have 190gr, 200gr, 220gr Sierra matchking bullets
@@brikeswardebbarma4029 we know that but the question remains what gr was tested in this video ?
@@anamericanpatriot5230 i didn't even watched the full video. Tata was boring 😑
Even a blind person sees that this is a rem700 in an ax chassis... Not a true AI rifle.
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What makes it a sniper rifle is the operator on the trigger. Sniper rifles are always zeroed in the prone and not a bench. Chasing the point of impact with the paper target was bizarre. Zero the 220 then measure the impact spread with all the other brands and note the temperature, altitude, lot # . Your lingo threw me “Chambered in MK248mod1”, it’s chamber is 300 win mag, battle rifles are not designed to shoot 1 specific round great, it’s what separates them from the PRS or grandpa’s deer rifle. The MK248mod1 220 grains round is a 30 cal Sierra bullet, Berger hybrids are not SAAMI approved, makes it slightly longer with a better G7 BC, will fit in AI mags with badger bottom. MOD1 220 is an extension of the MOD 0 190gr. Translation, 400-600 of greater effective range, don’t confuse it with MAX range. Anytime I see MARK13 on bolt rifles, I think barrels. As for Vortex, I don’t believe it’s any US branch or international marksman’s choice of optic, PRS guys love vortex..
Using the word always is dangerous in this hobby
Any handloads
so to be clear THIS IS NOT A MK 13 MOD anything navy seal sniper rifle. it has a proof bbl not a lilja. it does have a stiller action and a ai stock....does not make it a mk13...esp with a vortex scope as the mil uses a nightforce 5-22x originally and now the ACTAR/.
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How are you reading the fps?
that looks like a stiller action, not aics
Get some.
What is the distance?
if it is a mk 13 mod 7 and up chambered for the mk248mod1. then it aint really fair to say it is a 300 win mag, the mk248mod1 is 3.5" vs 3.34 for 300 win mag, pressure is 68k much higher than a 300 win mag. look similar, ain't the same
Finally! A shooting video I can actually watch! Great Video Guys! So much better that watching some old fatty, or some young millennial tweaker squatting in the dust falling asleep waiting in agony for them to FINALLY pull the freaking trigger!
A REAL test! Only thing that could have better is IF it was a completely windless day. I'm gunna go out on a limb and believe that Wind Changes caused a lot of the variations, and that many of the lighter bullet groups could have been slightly smaller.
Black hills it is then
no results for mk248 mod 1
I ran the numbers and where I am in Canada in 2022, this video would have cost $958,421.98 in ammo.
190 smk I'd assume
300 win mag blackhills 190grain SMK MK-248 MOD-0 spec
Pérdida de tiempo mucho equipo prueba eso a 1000 metros
A little late to ask for the brass? 😂
Are you doing any barrel prep or cleaning between ammo types? If not, to be fair you should clean between ammo types and do longer shot strings 7-8 rounds and throw out the first 1-3 rounds for fouling.
$5k worth of gun. It better be accurate.
why are you moving the target to where the other bullet impact point was from the last shoot, its mixing up your data, it should be totaly different targets for each manufacturers projectiles / bullets, DO not move the target impact or bull to the last bullet impact points, now you have no idea what's going on, meaning that each manufacturers is either having direct hits on bull or its missing by 6" at each different manufactures bullets fired?
I got tell you that acuraccy international is way overrated on my opinion .
Tikka and bergara b14 hmr shoots way better that acuraccy international.
vortex on a mod 7? blasphemy
Though it may not be p c , the votex golden eagle is legit and was used to set long range cold bore record couple years ago, 2158 yards , on a stock savage action and barrel 338L no less
Dude the action is a rem700
ant that is a 1500 yard rifle with the correct lilja bbl and a nightforce scope. looks like this test is at 100 yards...what a waste of time and ammo ( i have made 1790 yards with a berger 230 and rl26)
If you have enough ammo...any shot isn't impossible. If a gun doesn't have a tight group at 100 then it doesnt matter how it groups any further, doesn't matter if it's a 22 or a 50bmg.
Don't move your target. JUST leave it in one place, must be a college thing, your rifle cant hit center so move your target= DISLIKE = now you shoot the target from a stand position.
any serious shooter never uses factory rubbish , hand loads shit all over factory garbage
Understand but this is real world test that can be duplicated by you . No special formula. You can use the data as a starting point to design your loads. AI also said this is correct test for that model. Please keep in mind the military and service rifles don't shoot factory they shoot the mil spec ammo we used in this case it was from black hills. Not our first rodeo. And thank you for the comment and concern.
LOL your aiming right at the bull and it looks like their target is less than 100 yards away and you cant hit the bull LMFAO i think you need to make sure the gun is ZEROED in 100% first and the scope as well, looks like she is at least 5 mil way down to low based on the scope dope? Still its the best way to test so called MOA results on a test bench like that, so that the only factor will be distance and or heat, but at 100 yards then she still should be hitting the bull if she is zerored in preoerly no iffs of buts mate?
They are checking for ammo with best pricision first, then using that ammo will zero later. The scope reticle is moa and second focal plane and calibrated for 40x. I did not hear it mentioned what power the scope was set at but I will guess 15 - 20x. Also what you saw was the different impact points for the different ammo, which is good to know.
The fact that he had to readjust the scope between some shots...says it all for me hahahahaa..