Are the original aus BAD?
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- Today we're going to see if the original aus are bad and if they still hold up today! join me in this based journey!1!!
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Well, in fact, canon Outertale has some differences, for example, the monsters there are calmer, the same Sans is calmer and more loyal, probably due to cozy atmosphere of space and stars, just as far as I know, Sans’s Gaster Blasters instead of shoot blasters, suck the enemy into themselves like a black hole and then explodes, just as Chara at the end of genocide destroys world not with knife hit but with a black hole, so there are still changes, albeit small ones.
Umm, do you realise Chara using a black hole instead of destroying the entire timeline with a slash would nerf them?
(That is, unless Chara is going to kill off all Earthlings, Saiyans, Namekians, Viltrumites, Xenomorphs etc. off screen for some free EXP before destroying the timeline)
@@narrativeless404 Not really, Outertale Chara destroys the timeline along with world in the same way, but instead of knife stab, they uses black hole.
@@void8027 Black Hole doesn't ssseem tto bee fit fr desttroinggg the timeline
Their grrravity is usually able to onnly destroy celestial objects
@@narrativeless404 Bro, an ordinary small knife is also not fit for destroying an entire timeline, If ordinary knife can destroy timeline, then why can't a black hole?
@@void8027 It wasn't an ordinary knife
It was Chhara's *DDETERMMINATION* (and *HATE,* ifff you coonsider)
The knife is just thheir personnal ittem of choice
Before: perfect written full Undertale aus
Now: RACIST DUSTDUST
cant forget about dustdustfellswapunderswapdustdustdustfellsans
He’s here to kill you. Because he can.
I genuinely want someone to make a Racist DustDust fan game, in a similar vein to something like _Remembering the Genocides_ and _Papyrus Has Gone Too Far,_ where you play as Sans and have to fight DustDust and the guy from OMORI (I don’t know his name)
Green Sans, inf phases Last Breath, POWERS, The J, Pablo, the poopshitters, Outer!Gojo
@@edcola6671 Omori, the guy from OMORI (final boss of racist dustdust)
Okay, but... Outertale characters have drip.
Unbeatable
Yes, just yes.
someone once told me otsans looks like an ikea employee
@@thatbear72not wrong tho
I think the early AUs suffered because they werent ever intended to be this whole thing, just cool character designs for a "what if" without the precedent on so many other AUs.
I think Deltarune AU's are getting better at this. As they take thinking about the characters a little more seriously to start out beyond the designs. Although most still start off as just character designs anyways. A thing deltarune AUs suffer with which these early undertale AUs (namely underfell and outerrune) is a lack of aesthetics. Modern Deltarune AUs tend to take the underswap/inverted fate approach of keeping similar themes, tone and setting of their original games and mixing things up. Which results in them feeling very samey as they all end up being deltarune: repainted.
Early AUs suffered not because they weren't intended, but because they were just made in free time, for fun. Not for profit, or for fame..for fun. It's also why outer tale and underswap were less developed than underfell was, because underfell was more of a project instead of just a silly little idea. That is the line between ideas and inventions.
@@r-yv5uz The thing is you CAN'T profit off someone's else's games take character from that game, change the setting and create a story with use of said characters and charge money for it.
It's simply ILLEGAL.
You can ask for financial support of your project but *you can't monetize it in anyway without allowance of creator and other parties involved like publishe for example.*
The AU's were made for simple fun and some stopped being lazy and expanded beyond than just two sentence idea "HYHY. I created design for character I like and now i'm going to call it an AU".
@@rafsandomierz5313 That's not what I said, but you've got the idea. I'm saying the fun little ideas like underswap and outer tale inspired other people to do big things with it, while they themselves weren't going to, because at the time it was just silly. Profit was just..a random word I found that sounded cool.
@@rafsandomierz5313profit can mean gain of any kind don't forget so it falls in the line of fame so they didn't really say anything wrong.
One thing i absolutely hate about AUs is that they just feel like an excuse to make variants of the battle against Sans and nothing else. Might as well make ‘Sanstale’, an AU where all the monsters are different versions of Sans.
I agree, except for AUs like Outertale, Underswap, Ink Sans, Geno & Error Sans, Template & Pale, Underverse, Dreemurr Reborn, etc.
Don't go giving them more ideas
@@-un-original- oh, i bet it's already been done
Doesn't that exist already?
@@JoPo-nk8prit has.
As poorly as underswap aged. I cant say i hate it because it is responsible for two of my favourite aus. Being ts underswap and inverted fate
a man with good taste
I've been reading Inverted Fate for the first time recently, and I freaking love it, it also gave me a lot of inspiration for my own Au
God the music for inverted fate is so good tho, (plus that gave me inspirations for an OST for my own au, Non Undertale Related.)
Story shift has a similar premise,no?..
Underswap: *Is literally what the Au promises, a swaped Undertal-
BasedGuy: _You piece of crap._
Outertale: *Is literally what the Au is, Undertale but in spac-
BasedGuy: _Your existance annoys me._
Underfell: Yo yo, I'm undertale but everyone is agresive!
BasedGuy: ... *This is the best concept ever.*
Naw, but i rlly get why Underfell stands out, but tbh, i found the three concepts very vague, maybe the one with more potencial is Outertale..?
Idk, the three are kinda "Meh" for me, but i guess that, for the era they were made, it was great
@@iexistxd9466yeah outertale has insane potential
Outer literally is the fucking SPACE abilities, it should explode his potential.
UF is pretty good material by his original creator that finally made his AU. (I think anyone could do their version of the UF) instead US... Come on man, at least give it its flavor. @@rascamedi0
@@000Aira good point, my main problem with outertale is that the characters see literally unchanged with only space powers
the thing that i'm saying is that so MANY things could be changed if ut took place in space, because really any au has potential if you just do it right
@@rascamedi0 I personally think theres huge potential in Outertale’s locations for roleplay, other AUs & stuff.
I re read Dreemurr reborn and it truly was ahead of its time
Real
Rip the final chapter
I think it was one of my first experiences with full on fanmade UT content and it still holds a special place in my heart
However ppl gotta stop saying it's an AU, it's an AT (Alternate Timeline) just like Dusttale and any other concept that takes place in the Undertale universe, ppl have completely forgotten about the difference we used to make back then 😭
Every time I talk about underswap and underfell there's someone just correcting me and saying "erm dreemurr Reborn was the first!!!"
as an Underfell fan
2:53 YES, EYS YEA YES, THAT'S MY BOY.
Fell chars are definitely more than just edgy reskins, they're hella charismatic actually. Even if not including some complicated to tell differences from the original ones, because some of those characters aren't even supposed to be edgy.
With the alternativity it's basing on, imo conceptually this AU may turn out even more interesting than og undertale (at least much easier than the other cases). For example, just like in Horrortale the monsters' motivation to get out of underground is more understandable. Even if to just take Underfell as a more "mature" & cruel Undertale, u definitely can do something interesting & "alternative" with that. To think how different the endings may actually be.
3:51 still definitely much more than Outertale lol.
edgytale
@@ItzUltiX shut up, base, I'll
I still remembers Crashboombanger's dubs of Underfell (and specifically Underfell) as they gave so much life to the AU.
Here: ruclips.net/video/_wnkLehL-bU/видео.html
I went down nostalgia road to find this again, bro he voiced them so well
I really like how Toriel takes the initial suspicion that many people have that she could have some evil ulterior motive and turns it into a real character. I love how Papyrus is less of a goofball and more of a scheming villain. I really like how Alphys is an evil scientist who's lost all sense of morality and just wants to push science as far as she can. My favorite character has to be Mettaton, the idea of him basically just being used as a weapon by Alphys who's kind of just forced to follow along with it is really cool.
...And then there's Sans, who really does just feel super edgy most of the time. It's probably where the negative stigma for the AU comes from
I think that Underswap was actually a very good AU because during the time it was made, AUs within fandoms were just made to be simple and cool so it’s nostalgic. Someone wanted to make a simple swap AU with some art & did just that. But sadly the og creator left the fandom a very long time ago. And the fan fangame is bad.
I also love Outertale because it’s purely an aesthetic AU and the designs for all the characters are absolutely amazing. But I think that there can be alot of potential when using Outertale (or making your own Outertale take / AU) as a utau location for things like roleplays and such.
The fanon fangames of both of them are absolute horrible though.
Also, unrelated question but can you make a video on your opinion on Ink Sans (The canon, fangame, fanon, and Underverse versions)?
I heard on some Ink sans discussing video that he is the embodiment of fandom and that every version of Ink is personalized
That's deep and funny
underverse and glitchtale are crap ngl
@@ChancellerytaleEraser underverse is just arguable
@@ChancellerytaleEraser I get why Glitchtale is trash due to how messed up Cami made the writing in Season 2 (& especially in the cancelled season 3 prequel), but why Underverse (besides the “too many Sanses” argument)?
@@ChancellerytaleEraser Yeah i get glitchtale crap but wtf man?
How the hell underverse crap?
The ones that aren't bad, were ruined by the fandom, except dusttrust, it just kept respawning, like... IT COULD NOT BE KILLED IN ONE BLOW
Last breath be like
"BLOCKED ONCE MORE-"
Personally, my favorite AUs consist of Outertale, due to haha funny space, TS!Underswap, because it’s a unique take on one of the OG Underswap concepts. (It’s evolved a ton. A skeleton.)
And, of course, GG!Underfell. It keeps what made Underfell ‘edgy’ and twisted it so that it kept the overall despair theme the underground had, but gave the characters genuine issues, focusing on the mental aspect of how it’d *really* be for a whole population to be trapped under a literal MOUNTAIN for decades.
I enjoy Fresh’s concept, and how he doesn’t belong to an au. But other than that, majority of AUs feel like they were just made specifically *FOR* Sans. Which is why those like Fresh or, say Error stick out. They had a reason for their au being made only for sans, because they don’t belong to an au.
Finally, somone talking about outertale, unfortiny the fangame of this au is not soo good. (I really like The video).
The game "Project space time" is actually gonna release in a few months and will destroy all of the bugs and even add extra routes.
@@jackislegitterrified3689 well thats cool, Hope this gonna be good.
i always felt that underfell was misrepresented, it wasn't made with edginess in mind but people didn't know how to write the topics that underfell has very well and it just came out to bad, edgy writing most of the time, and those are the popular ones
In my opinion canon Outertale was a good au, but I think it was done just like underswap was. While the fandom didn't ruin it, but imPROVED it, the concept of aus at the time was mostly just small changes to undertale. Underswap being...swapped roles, outer tale being sans in space, the pseudo of Freddy in space, and underfell being...underfell. Underfell was probably the best out of the 3 considering that the creator of it had their mind developed on their au instead of the au just being a silly little idea for fun
Now that I think about it, many of the first AUs are more so just pallet aus that could be made more interesting, like have OT Asgore be supernova based, have Toriel be more star based, Sans instead of stars be asteroid based, Udyne with planets, and Papyrus could be comet based, oh yeah and Flowey is dark matter to black hole for Omega and white hole for Asriel
This is more character and battle based, but the overworld also has potential like you said
Uhm. 🤓 ACTUALLY! ☝ Underfell came before Underswap, BasedGuy more like StupidGuy hhahahahaha!!
Hahahaha
Canon Underswap had some parts of their personalities intact [e.g. Sans’s love for puns] but wasn’t fleshed out since the fandom made the creator outright leave.
I don't know if You know this but, underfail creator is still active in Twitter these days, (underfellx) Even they do other character that are not from UT into underfell o fella style, like uf!hatsune Miku xD
Underfell** GOD DAMN
Underfail was pretty funny,glad to hear its still around
@@basedguy.4229 MY AUTOCORRECT CHANGE IT, I WAS ACTUALLY REFEREING TO UNDERFELL XD
rlly cool au creator who just enjoys seeign what the fandom does with their concept
I’m kinda sad storyshift wasn’t mentioned. I see it as the second to Underswap. But, still was a good video! Keep it up man!
I feel like Ts!underswap and GG!underfell are great examples on how aus should be done
Aside from underfell that had a really great and cool concept that worked really well
The most problem with some aus is that it's just undertale but (insert something here) instead of expanding on it and making it different
Reminds me of Snoot Game. While Snoot Game and Undertale are near opposites, they both are heavily supported by fandom, especially fanfiction or aus. UT fandom often focuses on sans while SG fandom often focuses on Fang and/or Anon. What they both share is a focus on characters, giving them more spotlight or different histories or different roles or even being replaced by someone/something else entirely. Heck, SG often does sort of alternate version of roleswap, just focused more on one character, usually swapping out Fang for a different love interest like Trish, Naomi or Stella (best girl). I've seen a lot of art of au concepts like a gender swapped reality or one where, like Underswap, everyone takes a different place with a different personality. Fandom (or just autism, beats me!) is a wonderful thing when not taken too far.
Shoot Game mentioned, upvote granted.
Also, SG and Deltarune have more similarities than you might expect at first
I feel like storyshift had a lot of potential with since it strives to keep personalities in tact like TS.
Unfortunately Voltra, the creator has mismanaged the au to hell and back and continues to not do anything with the au which just angers me.
Also the pro shipping stuff and the crap she put Beethovenus and the other TS devs, as well as Dorked through also angers me, as well as the pro shipper stuff
Hope we get a TS! Underswap type take for storyshift that is separate from the OG creator
Also yeah underfell deserves some good takes like GG underfell
Facing Demons devs moment: bullying Voltra intensifies 🗣️🔥🔥
@@Oleja2008 dud, it seems that storyshift itself is doomed to failure
@@ItzUltiX what's that related to, wdym
Facing demons was also bad too
@@blazie42069the Pro shipping drama stuff is just stupid, Pro Shipper has so many different Term and I don't think Voltra mean term in a bad way but people keep spreading misinformation about her and stuff, Even I already talked about this with Dorked and Even she think about this Drama is Bad because How Varies the Term "Pro Shipper" Is and how people using it as a excuse too bully her, I don't blame her for not doing much with Storyshift as a whole either if I make au and desperately want too rework it because I think it has not exactly good Lore but keep getting bullying too the verge of Almost Death, would you even blame her for her own mental health?, She is a Victim for a very long time already, We don't need anymore Misinformation about her
With US, I feel that the choices for certain characters are so inconsistent or hard to figure out because trying to search for it gives you so much takes on US rather than the concrete, canon US
like Sans liking puns and Papyrus not, or the other way around
if Papyrus is a Sans in US, what condiment does he enjoy, etc. (P.S, I think the Ask US!Papyrus comic does a decent job of adding character, exposition, and overall a good feel to otherwise a boring AU.)
Maybe it’s a misconception, but I’ve heard that UF!Frisk in pacifist is still nice, but just also done with everyone’s shit which honestly I love that.
Outertale, I’ve only started looking into it a bit more thanks to your videos and because of Outertale Sans becoming Gojo
Based Guy. I've recently been watching your videos for a while and I love the format, honestly.
BUT NOW I FIND OUT YOU ACTUALLY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AUS AND ATS?! That's it. I'm subbing already. You gave me the final reason for it.
i like aus that don't try to be "tobycore" or anything, doing what they think what would be cool. salt and pepper underswap on soundcloud is REALLY cool and original (most soundcloud aus are) so if youre looking for a breath of fresh air i suggest checking those out
(also, what ppl consider AUs are just ATs.... AUs would be completely different functioning universes so... i dont think anybody's made one yet)
Love your videos as always.
I just wished they focused less on sans
Hey hey, I have a random request: I would ADORE it if you made a video about a few of the popular Modern AUs/ATs and how they might've potentially affected the Undertale fandom if THEY were the original AUs
You could throw in some good ones and also some stupid ones like Fanon VHS Sans (It WilL be YouR FUALLTTT) and offer theories based on how the fandom would've taken them at the time
2015 humor and entertainment is DEFINITELY not 2024 humor and entertainment so I definitely think if any of our modern joke AUs were "the original AU" it would've immediately killed the AU side of the fandom lol
Cuz i have fun writing and making up stories i am currently working on a take on dusttale, underfell and outertale. Don't worry i make sure they don't suck lol.
The first 2 are well into the planning phase (you have seen snippits of the dusttale rewrite in my comment under your dusttale vid) while my underfell take tries to strike a balance between serious but still goofy undertale funny.
Think you're gonna post it somewhere when it's done?
A video I'd like to see is one about the first fangames (which excludes mods of undertale), i keep seeing discourse on which was the first between disbelief and last breath but it's neither of them. Im curious
Bruh,there fr are debates about which was the first last breath or disbelief?😂
Its neither but last breath came 4 years after disbelief
@@basedguy.4229 oh you have NO idea... the amount of useless debates.....
@@goldendariusLiterally Half of the Comments Section here is Literally "Dusttale should be included in this video" When Dusttale is AT and Only Became popular in 2018 because of that one Fangame getting attention, not even a Canon Fangame
@@dynamitoriel9056 I don't know what this has to do with my comment
@@goldendarius amount of useless debate
Feels nice coming back to Undertale AU's
I really like the concept behind Underfell and a lot of the ideas it presents. I love how Flowey is genuinely on your side and a lot of the characters have a lot of interesting potential. Stuff like One Hell of a Show really shows how great Underfell could be. I really hope we get a full fangame for it someday.
Do an AT video, mostly because I am interested in what you have to say about the original Dusttale being a concept more than anything
Tbf to swap, although I have issues with the original concept storywise; it was never meant to be a story. It started off as an aesthetic au to just draw and portray the characters differently
i dont know if horrortale counts as a classic au, but its Amazing, highly recommend
I kinda forgot about them ngl (I mostly listen to the music). when I found out no aus existed I’ve listened to that a lot of the times.
I always imagined Outertale Characters as each having some type of space ability.
Like toriel and asgore being some sun and moon thing
Or Sans and Papyrus being something about Black and White holes or something
In the end it's Undertale but Blue.
Youre videos are very well made ❤
Not technically AU's, but there where a lot of good Undertale fanfics that where made as well, Golden quiche, ebbots wake, if you want a fun video idea try exploring the Undertale fanfic section.
If you were to make a take on each of these AU's, how would you like to make it? (Plot, characters, mechanics etc.)
underswap is a vibe
outertale is an aesthetic
Underfell birthed Flowerfell, and therefore is the best original AU.
Outertale is def one of my favorites, i was ready to attack you, but the critisicm you had for it was fair
i see it being more like, the internet saw what worked, and what failed
underfell turned into just edgy undertale cuz the internet just saw that as the only way of making a character be mean
underswap was just swapped characters cause people didnt know what parts should be swapped and what shouldnt
outertale was just as you said in the video, it wasnt built to even be an AU.
meanwhile now, au concepts are somewhat better
though, most new AUS now(which are rare) are just memes, like dustdust
The Outertale idea imo have so much potential as underfell
You should have gone more into why underfell is good. You said the violence law part but that doesnt really say much. The other AUs dont have that much meat so it makes sense you wouldnt go that far into them. but for underfell i think some examples would be good
ok top 3 things i wish you will make
1. the freaking comic aus they are surprisingly good ngl
2. neutral endings
3. our boi koffin K.
2:47 I would argue about that, TS!Underswap does have a line where to end the swapping. Chara is still the same old Chara, the only significant change is they fell much later. Papyrus is still a meticulous puzzler, and Sans is a relaxed judge (but the depression did swap, ig). I can go on, using example of 7 Temmies and 1 Flowey, but that will be just and overkill.
Underswap didn't age well but with the recent addition of ts!underswap coming back with a new fangame it's gaining more attention again. Personally it's one of my favorites but even I have others that far suppress it (such as ts)
To be honest,even when some aus are bad when it comes to storytelling,character design,etc
the exception is the music cause DAMN do the composers do well on making a soundtrack for an au
I agree fell is most interesting due to not being able to do genocide, sans having Cooler sibling rivalary with papyrus out of three even tho swap isnt all characther completely swapping roles but still having some parts of their original personalities. Since outertale is canceled au it will stay as a Undertale but space.
when i have to think of some aus, i think of , underswap, dust,fell ,outer
Well, Inverted Fate is a good Underswap alternative, since in it characters change only roles (Excerpt MMT and Blooky), but maintain personalities
I love Inverted Fate.
I think Underswap has the best premise out of all the og Undertale AUs, which is why it has the most takes.
I kinda like that we don’t have one definitive, widely agreed upon swaps for stuff like Deltarune and Undertale Yellow, it’s fun seeing different interpretations.
Based guy will you ever do Super paper mario content and if yes then will you do a explenation on why do you like dimentio so much? (sorry if i had a typo)
I was thinking about making a couple of videos about M&L and Paper Mario,ill definitely make one for Undertoad tho,one of those videos will definitely be about dimentio
BH!outertale: the aliens (monsters) are going to get sucked into a black hole and you have to save them while hopping from planet to planet and using time travel! And then there's the final boss, Flowey, who would be a flowery god of destruction who summoned the hole
But no one of these AUs will surpass StoryShift's greatness.
I feel like the fandom really messed up underswap when it was created as the fandom managed to make a freak named blueberry.
Will you do a video talking about Undertale Yellow, Glitchtale, Underverse and the Deltarune aus?
Not sure about the ut animated series,but ill probably do another video on ut yelllow and a video about deltarune aus
That’s why people use fannon outertale, it’s way more interesting and in depth with the different characteristics of space
I wouldn't say original US and OT were bad, just primitive. Humans make incremental progress on everything. We build on previous work to build something larger and better.
~And that fills me with determination~
what are your thoughts on dtlg?
Underfell and Outertale I loved the idea of them simple but fun but underswap never saw the appeal in it
What i hate about the AUs is the fact that its only sans with the ability to control reality or whatever asspull they give him
Tbh, I'm pretty dissapointed with Outertale on its own
Underswap's role change idea had potential to mix certain characters, maybe not only their roles but their stories and personalities too
Underfell is a pretty solid AU that, admittedly, I underestimated beforehand
Outertale it's just pretty backgrounds and new outfits, anything else that stands out of it is mostly fanon stuff given by the fandom (ex: Sans having star magic), heck, M87 Sans on his own uses space way better than the entirety of Outertale
what if outertale: asriel never got killed by the humans, so he became king. undyne doesnt want you dead and just wants to deliver you to asriel, papyrus is part of the royal guard.
asriel being king does mean toriel and asgore died of old age, but asriel is still alive thanks to the power chara's soul provides.
also mettaton is a rythm minigame using the switch soul or green soul
Out of all the Aus that aged well. I agree that Underfell aged well tremendously. Not only is the concept good, but it reverses the monsters to be horrible creatures yet deep down maybe there is still some good.
If there is one AU I will call edgy its easily Horrortale. Its Undertale but horror tropes done badly. I don't lile Horrortale. Horrortale could've had interesting tropes for the main cast. Like Horror Toriel be like Rosemary from Rosemary's Baby or Mama the antagonist of mom. Both grieving mothers that are mentally unwell. And yet, all I see from Horrotale are the monsters having sharp claws, red eyes and writing that would make Creepypasta blush. We could've had a mad scientist Alphys who experiments on her fellow monsters, or a phantom like design for Napstablook, an Ai version of Mettaton that is hellbent on showing themselves by control, or a skeletal eldritch Asgore who is worn from the battles of the war.
For Underfell, it's interesting because Flowey is by your side. As well as him afraid of the monsters that you have to side and work together. They may look edgy with their designs at first glance but in reality they're easily monsters acting like monsters for survival. Or some monsters that are beyond redemption. Horrortale made me not care for the AU because its just red eyes, red mist and smiling teeth.
based guy i need your opinion on this
ive been having this thought lately, "are most of the "AU"'s actually just alternate timelines?"
hear me out, take horrortale as the easiest one
horrortale is just when human leaves ground and core dies of power, from original undertale, so thats an alternate timeline, no?
dusttale is just undertale (at first at least) but sans decides to kill monsterkind bla bla bla, so isnt that an alternate timeline?
maybe i got the meaning of alternate timeline wrong, but to me, its just the original AU (in this case, not an AU, its UT) except something changes, but at first its UT
Dusttale is accepted as AT pretty sure. i was also thinking the same about horrortale, it makes sense for it to be a AT. But you see, the standards for an AT are pretty confusing. For example, in killer!sans's AT, the comic shows that chara is the one controlled by the player instead of frisk, which sure, is a pretty popular fanon, but in the end its still fanon. Even underfell, which is considered an au, should be an AT, because in a post by the creator of underfell, he states that "Monsters in Underfell started the same as they would in undertale , they’re not made by “hate and fear “ they were made INTO just “hate and fear” after they were forced underground ." and so technically, underfell is an AT since its orgins come from undertale, but it isnt in the eyes of the community and the creator. So by that, i think its simply just a creator preference on whether an alternate take on undertale is an AU or an AT.
@@CrystalClear51 thanks man! this is exactly what i was thinking! i wanted to mention more like underfell, something new, and more, but i wasnt quite too sure. thanks for clearing it up for me tho, i just wanted to know if anyone else had the same thought as me!
You should review Glitchtale
0:27 um I see tons of people online in the community who absolutely love them.
I Agree it kinda is like an Alternate timeline sorta
I agree with what you said about underswap
Good video but I think you've missed the point of AUs like underswap and outertale. You need to understand that they weren't conceived for the purpose of being super fleshed out with lore or anything like that. They were just made for the sole purpose of having fun with the concept of alternate versions of your favourite undertale characters which is what makes them so good in my opinion. They don't have a concrete storyline since the whole point is for YOU to make it up. I'm not saying story based AUs like horrortale arent good as well. It's just the original AUs were simple and effective. It's a shame we aren't getting any real good AUs anymore other than stupid sans and papyrus based ones.
what were the fangames in the background? I mean specifically, cause i don't recognize those versions of underswap or underfell off the top of my heaad
Also I liked outertale conceptually for the vibes.
The underswap one was an april fools fake underswap trailer,then I put the sansational studio (SS) Underswap fangame trailer
In the uf section I put a fangame called Underfell and as for outertale,I just showed ps outertale
@@basedguy.4229 thanks!! I appreciate it!
2:14 about underswapp i have to state that the ORIGINAL underswap is not just a persoanlity switcher, it takes parts of the original personalities and masters them more,
pre example: sans still makes jokes,
sadly many takes missrepresent the swap characters, hence blueberries existance...
an au that masters that art even more is one of the newly updated ones, TS!Underswap
doesn’t regular papyrus make puns too?
@@bignoseman3031 papyrus' jokes aren't like sans'puns their slightly different if you get what i mean yk?
@@SkeletonSlackerYou mean pranks?
When I was like 12 so I think 2016 when undertale was getting huge.
The only aus that existed at the time were swap, shift, fell.
Then came outer, lust, shuffle, spin, dust, murder!, ink, error, horror, so on and so on.
I remember when underfells "music" was just remixes of songs slowed down with reverb.
Swap had papyrus in an orange hoodie for some reason wearing cargo shorts and shoes, smoking either a cig or a blunt, and he liked honey? Sans or blueberry as classic swap sans is known as was always very energetic and hyper, portrayed to be an innocent little guy or something like that.
Storyshift was basically unknown and few and far between tracks, not many fan designs or comics.
Then all of these aus popped up out of nowhere and boom the most of them have been left to rot being forgotten by time
Dust and murder are the same thing, no?
@@drysoup3017yeah, dust is just the non canon name for murder
@drysoup3017 in a way yes? Dust sans goes mad cause human do genocide so he kills.
Murder sans makes a deal with chara I think and starts killing because he wants to?
I might be thinking of a different sans or I got his name wrong
@@ARCTICN0VA the "Murder" sans you are referring to is Killer Sans. From SomethingNew
Honestly, I feel like Underswap swapping the characters’ personalities and roles feels more of a reskin than an AU. TS! Underswap managed to create a creative take on Underswap, by keeping their personalities intact and adding more characters.
Underfell would be a cool AU if it kept the original characters’ personalities, except the Underground was in a more miserable state.
Outertale has an interesting concept. I could imagine the various locations being different galaxies, the main characters themed after different astronomical objects, and the puzzles based on map navigation such as gravity switches like you mentioned. It could be interesting if the Genocide Route was named something along the lines of “Heat Death Route”, or maybe I’m thinking too much.
I don’t hate any of these AUs, and I encourage creativity. Those are just some of my thoughts.
That a good video Can you tell what you think of hardtale.
my opinions on underfell and swap:good concepts and i like to see how the story and events changed if happened
my opinion on outertale: damn they got the drip
Basically all the murder time trio dudes like insanity and horror and killer, murder are AT.
Murder wouldn't be in the trio
@@ddlcfan2763horror wouldn't either
@@ddlcfan2763 ik but im combining them all to make my comment short.
I must say that AU's made me despise Undertale when I was younger, nowadays I understand that I actually despise is how apparently all AU's deepthroat Sans, Chara and the Geno routes ignoring all other aspects of Undertale as a whole
Really cool
* don't worry buddy, that why the me from this Timeline is gonna make playable games outta all 3 Aus by modding the original game, he's just taking a break until December 7. (I'm also him so I know his login)
* fortunately, I'm giving other Lazy the concept art and mod work we already made from the previous Timeline. I plan on expanding on the original concept of the AU's and adding new stuff to it according to canon.
* The patience will pay off. Don't worry.
outertale would be cool if it was made by someone capable of making an interesting story around it with good writing and fun designs.
im not shamelessly plugging my work in progress outertale take btw
Another underrated au imo is epictale, it's got a good story and the characters are altered in creative ways.
True, also I feel like XTale is getting less appreciation than supposed to.
And yes, UnderVerse & XTale aren't exactly the same.
@@Oleja2008 yeah xtale is also nice 👌
@@probobility2635 One of the best fanmade undertale works if not the best lol, wdym nice
So, about the Undertale But Edgy™ misconspection is peopke say it ironically.
Even still you missed the mark by an inch.
You can tell what Underfell is by looking at canon Fellfell. Underfell is a darker spin on the story with flipped moralities. Undyne goes from loyal to sadistic, Alphys goes from nervous to insane, and the brothers go from normal to well... we all know what became of them.
The Aus have a lot of potential, it's a shame they have never been exploited. I hated Horrortale at the time because I thought it was just an edgy au, but my goodness, the Horrortale comic is a beautiful story that leaves you wanting more.
Say what you will, but I will take something more in line with the old AUs that would play with a certain concept or aesthetic over another genocide au that desperately wants to be Last Breath, Disbelief, or Dusttale.
Underswap: Cool(and they're not just swapped, their personalities do change, but they don't become exactly like the character they changed places with (like, just cuz u play as Chara, doesn't mean Chara is Frisk now... WHAT a load of bs)
Underfell: Would be cool if Chara's negativity from previous genocide runs was the reason instead (Monsters can't become evil just cuz Asgore said so)
Outertale: dumb af recolor
Underfell came to be because someone drew toriel as a more insane and dangerous version of herself. And someone said “hey! You should do that with every character!”
TS!underswap is how underswap should've happened. Switched roles without the switch of personality. Stuff actually differs in TS becaause it's Sans with role of Papyrus instead of just "they look different"
OuterTale has so much potential, a lot more then UnderFell I’d say, sad they never made it more unique
One thing that I really despise about the Undertale community is their exclusive attention on Sans. All of the animations and battles recently popping up for Underfell show that the AU has a lot to offer when it's not devoting all of its attention to Smiley Trashbag
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Yes
YES.
YES!!
this means you agree with the pacifist fell sans fight, correct? I love that take.
I rlly want to make an underfell AU
Funny thing the first au is asriel au two actually
I agree with all your points
Honestly underfell is so underrated
Cool
4:00 You failed to mention how it's not actually Undertale but Edgy.
Fear? Violence? That's the average edgelord's favorite words besides blood and death... and maybe rage, depends on the edgelord whether they're the angry type or the **teleport's behind you** type...
They even frequently red and black, the edgiest of colours!
The main thing with UF is that it looks like UT but edgy on a surface level, and that's what caused the misconception in the first place. The aesthetics match up, but being "edgy" was never the point, being _dark_ was (and yes, something can be dark without being edgy).
That, and at least most takes of the au except the super fanon ones make things interesting by fulfilling the AU's secondary (and imo more interesting) purpose of being "Undertale but everyone's moralities are swapped", which I think alone saves it from *just* being "Edgy Undertale" (where it'd probably just be "literally everyone is evil, no exceptions").
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2:29 just remember, team switched's underswap existss
2:46 damn bro beat me to it
2:58 alphatale was made first and don't dis on my homie outer sans
3:08 and for good reason
3:23 is it tho?
3:33 yes, yes it does mean that