Great Vid! Set the sensitivity to the tenderness maximum. The upticks/light ghostings in volume shouldn't be an issue philip donahue. They'd BETTER not be, anyway!
Absolutely, I have mine connected to one 12 inch Simmons speaker and it rocks. Simmons actually has a 3 piece (one base amplifier and two satellite amplifier) I imagine that's a lot of sound, because my one 12" amplifier/speaker shakes pictures off the wall if turned up.
This one is pretty robotic specifically in the snares imo, and the choke on the cymbals is dreadful. The zone response is there, but I would just run it through midi to solve all those problems to make it shine. Really cool budget kit from a pioneer of ekits. I wish more people knew there are a ton of these cheap kits that have robotic built-in sounds than can sound AMAZING through midi via your pc if the pad response is good. There's a few big programs people use. Do your own research and make your own choice. They all have their pros and cons. They all work well. Some better than others
at 17:03 You could actually take that main structure bar that the snare bar is on .... & swap places with the middle tom bar & the snare bar which would give a 3" raise if needed ............... My issue is ...........and if ANYONE has a remedy plz let me know ............. I NEED to have my snare tilt slightly towards me!! Didffereent brack maybe? or some other way?//
It's been a minute since I was testing this kit, but I don't recall the bluetooth being quiet. I think often times the issue is the phone has the volume lowered, so you need to make sure it's turned up on the phone as well. But yes, I don't think there is a mixer control for the volume of the Bluetooth audio signal
You can definitely set it up for left-hand. Just put everything up in reverse. I'm left-handed, but I set up the drum right-handed and learn to play open-hand, since most drum sets are set up right hand. That way if I ever go to any place they have a drum set I can play it.
Dude, your demos are great, but I would suggest that you stop playing the exact same groove for every single kit you're sampling. It would be awesome to see/hear you play something that matches the name/sound of the kit, like you did with that last metal kit!
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind. In my head I thought it would be good to keep the groove simple and consistent so you’d be able to A/B them and hear the sounds rather than the groove. But this is a solid critique and I appreciate it
@@NickCesarzDrumsdude I really appreciate you responding! I'm sorry I wasn't in the best of spirits earlier so I have edit my message to not sound like me angrily trying to tell you what to do, but instead just offering feedback; not criticism. I apologize for my original comment and for being upset over something I was wrong about; you are a great drummer, and it takes more talent to play the exact same groove, over and over again, without changing it up at all; whether that's the tempo or the placement of notes, so hats off to you, you're incredible and a much better drummer than I am 😅 plus your editing/lights and camera set up and the amount of detail you include is just awesome. Because Guitar Center is doing their Big Bang sale right now, I wasn't 100% sure if I should go with this kit, but your demos/video just absolutely helped me to understand why I'm picking this over the Alesis Nitro Max! Again, I apologize for being a critic, but you are an excellent drummer and creator! Thank you again for responding to me in kindness! I honestly prefer creators with less subscribers over the "big guys" with millions of subscribers, because of your quality of video, no BS or wasting your viewers' time! Again, thank you so much, and I hope you and your loved ones stay well! Drum on!!
No electric drum set under $1,000.00 is really worth buying. Super good e-kits typically start at $3,000.00 and go up from there. Any e-kit under $1,000.00 is considered just a toy of a drum set. For $1,000.00+, you can get a decent e-kit to learn the basics on. For $3,000.00 on up, you can get an e-kit that is 99% like an accustic drum set. Simmons, unfortunately, is really not a good e-kit company anymore. In the 80s, Simmons was at the top of the e-kit game, and sadly, that is no longer true. Simmons, after I spoke to them, trying to decide on a new e-kit since the Simmons kit I had for over 10 years began to fail, is Simmons has no plans and does not see the need to come out with a more accustic like e-kit. An accustic like e-kit is what I was after. I wanted a hi-hat on a stand, and Simmons told me they do not see the point as they make electronic drum sets, and there are enough other companies making more accustic like e-kits that Simmons is only interested in making strictly electronic drum sets that function as an electric drum set and not one that emulate an accustic drum set. Simmons not doing more accustic like e-kits and using a bit cheaper plastic parts rather than metal keeps the price down. One of the problems with Simmons is if you are trying to learn to play drums and want to get good. Sadly, you can only play a Simmons or entry-level e-kits because if you try to play an accustic drum set or a higher-end e-kit, you will find you really can not play those as they are so different in feel, sensitivity, expression, number of zones, and sound, and you basically have to learn to play drums over again. Sure, you can have fun with a Simmons e-kit, but they will never let you learn how to really play drums as they just do not function like or even close to how an accustic drum set is played. Sorry, Simmons, you lost a customer. The e-kit I now have is a higher-end one, and it is 99% like playing my accustic drum set. If you want to learn to play guitar, do you start with a toy one? Then why go with a Simmons e-kit or any "beginner " entry-level e-kit only to have to spend even more money on upgrades to try and make the e-kit more accustic drum set like. In the long run, you will save money and be much happier if you just get a higher-end e-kit, and then you can truly learn to play drums correctly.
The point of an ekit isn't to feel like an acoustic kit unless you get an "acoustic designed" which also doesn't feel like a real kit. Mesh heads are never going to feel like standard heads. I just find it so odd that you're on every budget ekit video just to preach about how crummy they are. Sounds to me like you're trying to make yourself feel better about whatever $3k+ kit you forked out your cash on. Especially if you say you used an old Simmons kit before. Old kits felt absolutely nothing like acoustic drums, but you used one for 10 years? You're just not making sense. As long as the pads are responsive and have a multiple zones there's nothing wrong with even running gigs on a $500 kit. I've done it. You should really TRY the cheaper kits. I can tell you've only used your old Simmons, whatever you have now, and whatever cheapo Alesis Guitar Center sets up. Stop spreading misinformation. There are plenty of worthy kits even at the $500-$1000 price point. E kits are not meant to be an acoustic kit. They are completely different in feel and always will be. I've even tried a $10k e kit, I think it was DW, and even that wouldn't feel like an acoustic kit until you put actual acoustic head on it and took away the ekit functionality. What you're searching for doesn't exist with current ekit technology. There are $200-$400 kits that feel infinitely better than the high end stuff from even the 2000s. Mentioning ekits from the 80s while also saying you can't get a good kit for under $1k is just crazy talk. Kits that old were like smacking a rubber coated block of wood. You contradict yourself throughout the whole statement you make on every budget ekit video. Please just give it a rest. You are actively making future drummers think they need $1k to get started, which will inevitably cause a metric f*ck ton of them to never even try because they can't afford a "starter kit" by your definition. What you say is an opinion. Stop going from video to video stating it as fact
You are too tough on the e drum concept for casual new players. 99 out of 100 aspiring drummers will never actually advance beyond playing to tracks in headphones, thus this kit is fine, and is amazing for the price. The noise issue with drumming is huge. Few will have the ability to practice acoustic drums due to noise in their home situation. So, these are way more interesting than silly practice pads. Those are only good for learning snare rudiments. Even with these electronic sets the foot pedal thump is a major issue. Low range acoustic impulses are very difficult to resolve. I have an e kit, and I built a drum booth with many layers of sound absorption on the platform to soak up that low range thump. I own a Titan 70 and it's very good, lots of flexibility to make custom kits with a couple of dozen adjustments per sample. The samples were very well recorded with long decays. I play to songs in headphones and it's great for that. I have been playing for nearly 60 years and used to do studio work for song writers and play clubs in a pretty good hard rock cover band in my youth. I play every day now for an hour or so and enjoy the set. Sure, a high-end Roland would be very nice, but there is nothing wrong with these products, especially for a young person who wants to try to learn to play to their favorite songs. If one lives on a second level, then a sound absorption platform will be needed. Forget the tennis ball thing. I tried that. Did nothing really. Start with 5" of high-density foam with a plywood top at a minimum. Layers can be added on top of that if it is determined that more sound absorption is needed. Bed risers are available to raise up the drum throne if needed.
This kit seems good enough for my son to play on at home. We started him on a cheap Simmons because we weren’t sure he’d stick to it. Now, we’ve moved up to this kit because it’s been 3 years. He’ll be getting an acoustic kit for Christmas. I think this kit is perfectly fine for kids starting out and parents who don’t want to dish out $1,000+ on something their kid will fizzle out on in a year or 2.
Amazing 6pc. kit for money. Simmons has real winner here. Excellent demo & info.
Couldn't agree more! Thanks!
Thorough video. Thank you for the honesty. The kick is a deal breaker but I wouldnt know that without your review
You can always use a different pedal, unless the pad is the issue for you.
The rack on the Simmons drum set looks very solid!
I like the rectangular tubing of the rack versus a round tube rack.
Great Vid! Set the sensitivity to the tenderness maximum. The upticks/light ghostings in volume shouldn't be an issue philip donahue. They'd BETTER not be, anyway!
What is the difference between Titan50 and Titan 50 B-EX? Only 1 Tom and 1 Simbal added?
Love you vids👍🏾
Thanks for the support!
Can you play this plugged into a speaker for a jam sesh?
Absolutely, I have mine connected to one 12 inch Simmons speaker and it rocks. Simmons actually has a 3 piece (one base amplifier and two satellite amplifier) I imagine that's a lot of sound, because my one 12" amplifier/speaker shakes pictures off the wall if turned up.
This one is pretty robotic specifically in the snares imo, and the choke on the cymbals is dreadful. The zone response is there, but I would just run it through midi to solve all those problems to make it shine. Really cool budget kit from a pioneer of ekits. I wish more people knew there are a ton of these cheap kits that have robotic built-in sounds than can sound AMAZING through midi via your pc if the pad response is good. There's a few big programs people use. Do your own research and make your own choice. They all have their pros and cons. They all work well. Some better than others
at 17:03 You could actually take that main structure bar that the snare bar is on .... & swap places with the middle tom bar & the snare bar which would give a 3" raise if needed ............... My issue is ...........and if ANYONE has a remedy plz let me know ............. I NEED to have my snare tilt slightly towards me!! Didffereent brack maybe? or some other way?//
I heard the Bluetooth music input volume is really low and that their is no mixer control. Any validity to that?
It's been a minute since I was testing this kit, but I don't recall the bluetooth being quiet. I think often times the issue is the phone has the volume lowered, so you need to make sure it's turned up on the phone as well. But yes, I don't think there is a mixer control for the volume of the Bluetooth audio signal
can you make a vid on your rift. were beginning drums with this set n would like to hit that
Rift? I’m not sure what you mean, can you explain?
@@NickCesarzDrums I think he means riff. Probably what you were playing during the sound demo
I like 6 pc. drumset to have 3 toms up,1 down on your left. I wonder if longer left bar can be in front to accommodate 3 toms in front?
It can ..I did that to mine and ran three toms up front ..a little tight but is manageable...
Is the snare cross stick compatible?
I prefer the acoustic convetion pads are small
I love drums
Ma si può comprare dall'Italia??
I'm left-handed and looking to buy an e-kit. Could this kit be set-up lefty?
I haven’t tried it but I’d imagine it would work. I’ll look at the rack when I get home and comment back
Yes of course just set up in reverse
You can definitely set it up for left-hand. Just put everything up in reverse. I'm left-handed, but I set up the drum right-handed and learn to play open-hand, since most drum sets are set up right hand. That way if I ever go to any place they have a drum set I can play it.
Dude, your demos are great, but I would suggest that you stop playing the exact same groove for every single kit you're sampling. It would be awesome to see/hear you play something that matches the name/sound of the kit, like you did with that last metal kit!
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind. In my head I thought it would be good to keep the groove simple and consistent so you’d be able to A/B them and hear the sounds rather than the groove. But this is a solid critique and I appreciate it
@@NickCesarzDrumsdude I really appreciate you responding! I'm sorry I wasn't in the best of spirits earlier so I have edit my message to not sound like me angrily trying to tell you what to do, but instead just offering feedback; not criticism.
I apologize for my original comment and for being upset over something I was wrong about; you are a great drummer, and it takes more talent to play the exact same groove, over and over again, without changing it up at all; whether that's the tempo or the placement of notes, so hats off to you, you're incredible and a much better drummer than I am 😅 plus your editing/lights and camera set up and the amount of detail you include is just awesome. Because Guitar Center is doing their Big Bang sale right now, I wasn't 100% sure if I should go with this kit, but your demos/video just absolutely helped me to understand why I'm picking this over the Alesis Nitro Max!
Again, I apologize for being a critic, but you are an excellent drummer and creator! Thank you again for responding to me in kindness! I honestly prefer creators with less subscribers over the "big guys" with millions of subscribers, because of your quality of video, no BS or wasting your viewers' time! Again, thank you so much, and I hope you and your loved ones stay well!
Drum on!!
@@NickCesarzDrumsalso I can understand and respect why you would use the same groove for every drum kit, thank you for explaining!
Also huge congratulations on having your demos featured on Simmons’ official RUclips channel! That’s awesome!!
Thanks Jack, no problem. No biggie at all. I'm always looking to improve so comments are always helpful!
WHOIOEVER buys this ...............be aware there is No way to tilt the Snare towards you!!!!!!!! this handicap, imo makes it very unenjoyable.
No electric drum set under $1,000.00 is really worth buying. Super good e-kits typically start at $3,000.00 and go up from there. Any e-kit under $1,000.00 is considered just a toy of a drum set. For $1,000.00+, you can get a decent e-kit to learn the basics on. For $3,000.00 on up, you can get an e-kit that is 99% like an accustic drum set. Simmons, unfortunately, is really not a good e-kit company anymore. In the 80s, Simmons was at the top of the e-kit game, and sadly, that is no longer true. Simmons, after I spoke to them, trying to decide on a new e-kit since the Simmons kit I had for over 10 years began to fail, is Simmons has no plans and does not see the need to come out with a more accustic like e-kit. An accustic like e-kit is what I was after. I wanted a hi-hat on a stand, and Simmons told me they do not see the point as they make electronic drum sets, and there are enough other companies making more accustic like e-kits that Simmons is only interested in making strictly electronic drum sets that function as an electric drum set and not one that emulate an accustic drum set. Simmons not doing more accustic like e-kits and using a bit cheaper plastic parts rather than metal keeps the price down. One of the problems with Simmons is if you are trying to learn to play drums and want to get good. Sadly, you can only play a Simmons or entry-level e-kits because if you try to play an accustic drum set or a higher-end e-kit, you will find you really can not play those as they are so different in feel, sensitivity, expression, number of zones, and sound, and you basically have to learn to play drums over again. Sure, you can have fun with a Simmons e-kit, but they will never let you learn how to really play drums as they just do not function like or even close to how an accustic drum set is played. Sorry, Simmons, you lost a customer. The e-kit I now have is a higher-end one, and it is 99% like playing my accustic drum set. If you want to learn to play guitar, do you start with a toy one? Then why go with a Simmons e-kit or any "beginner " entry-level e-kit only to have to spend even more money on upgrades to try and make the e-kit more accustic drum set like. In the long run, you will save money and be much happier if you just get a higher-end e-kit, and then you can truly learn to play drums correctly.
I mean, to be fair, the best way to learn the drums "correctly" is to play acoustic drums
The point of an ekit isn't to feel like an acoustic kit unless you get an "acoustic designed" which also doesn't feel like a real kit. Mesh heads are never going to feel like standard heads. I just find it so odd that you're on every budget ekit video just to preach about how crummy they are. Sounds to me like you're trying to make yourself feel better about whatever $3k+ kit you forked out your cash on. Especially if you say you used an old Simmons kit before. Old kits felt absolutely nothing like acoustic drums, but you used one for 10 years? You're just not making sense. As long as the pads are responsive and have a multiple zones there's nothing wrong with even running gigs on a $500 kit. I've done it. You should really TRY the cheaper kits. I can tell you've only used your old Simmons, whatever you have now, and whatever cheapo Alesis Guitar Center sets up. Stop spreading misinformation. There are plenty of worthy kits even at the $500-$1000 price point. E kits are not meant to be an acoustic kit. They are completely different in feel and always will be. I've even tried a $10k e kit, I think it was DW, and even that wouldn't feel like an acoustic kit until you put actual acoustic head on it and took away the ekit functionality. What you're searching for doesn't exist with current ekit technology. There are $200-$400 kits that feel infinitely better than the high end stuff from even the 2000s. Mentioning ekits from the 80s while also saying you can't get a good kit for under $1k is just crazy talk. Kits that old were like smacking a rubber coated block of wood. You contradict yourself throughout the whole statement you make on every budget ekit video. Please just give it a rest. You are actively making future drummers think they need $1k to get started, which will inevitably cause a metric f*ck ton of them to never even try because they can't afford a "starter kit" by your definition. What you say is an opinion. Stop going from video to video stating it as fact
You are too tough on the e drum concept for casual new players. 99 out of 100 aspiring drummers will never actually advance beyond playing to tracks in headphones, thus this kit is fine, and is amazing for the price. The noise issue with drumming is huge. Few will have the ability to practice acoustic drums due to noise in their home situation. So, these are way more interesting than silly practice pads. Those are only good for learning snare rudiments.
Even with these electronic sets the foot pedal thump is a major issue. Low range acoustic impulses are very difficult to resolve. I have an e kit, and I built a drum booth with many layers of sound absorption on the platform to soak up that low range thump. I own a Titan 70 and it's very good, lots of flexibility to make custom kits with a couple of dozen adjustments per sample. The samples were very well recorded with long decays. I play to songs in headphones and it's great for that.
I have been playing for nearly 60 years and used to do studio work for song writers and play clubs in a pretty good hard rock cover band in my youth. I play every day now for an hour or so and enjoy the set. Sure, a high-end Roland would be very nice, but there is nothing wrong with these products, especially for a young person who wants to try to learn to play to their favorite songs. If one lives on a second level, then a sound absorption platform will be needed. Forget the tennis ball thing. I tried that. Did nothing really. Start with 5" of high-density foam with a plywood top at a minimum. Layers can be added on top of that if it is determined that more sound absorption is needed. Bed risers are available to raise up the drum throne if needed.
The guy that played a Simmons Ekit for ten years is knocking Simmons Ekits ...lol...
This kit seems good enough for my son to play on at home. We started him on a cheap Simmons because we weren’t sure he’d stick to it. Now, we’ve moved up to this kit because it’s been 3 years. He’ll be getting an acoustic kit for Christmas.
I think this kit is perfectly fine for kids starting out and parents who don’t want to dish out $1,000+ on something their kid will fizzle out on in a year or 2.