one of if not THE best review of anything i've ever watched. Brilliant. answered every possible question and i liked the kick stand pad idea. im ordering mine now. cheers from ca.
This is the first of your vids I have watched and you have an excellent presentation style. I was thinking of purchasing a Go-Lite Shangri-La 3. Your review has made me want one even more. If I may, I am of the opinion that you should always subtract at least 1 and with some designs even 2 or 3 "bodies" from what manufactures of tents claim for their tent capacities. I've never seen a 2 man tent that 2 men that weren't any bigger than 5'7" and more than 75 kilos in size.Thanks for a great vid.
I should also add that I typically use a cheap poly tarp for a ground cloth when stock based and the ultra light window vinyl stuff for back packing. We have slept two 6' men and two border collies whilst navigating the Escalante via inflatable Aire kayaks and other trips. It was raining so the dogs slept in the "trianges" and the packs were outside. I also had Bear Paw cut a nest in two and added netting to each half so that I only have to pack 1/2 nest when solo and bugs are insatiable.
Thanks for the nice review! With this video, I made my choice. I recently purchased the SL-3. This is a really good tent, including for our Siberian climate.
Thanks for the good review and some handy tips. Would have been great though to see how you set it up including the nest in combination with the rain fly.
I've been looking for a good lightweight tent. Then only problem is that I am tall (6'5"). Do you think this tent would for me? It seems like it may be a little tight.
The golite hex3 (shangrila3's predecessor) is my main tent both for wilderness horse based camping and for back packing. I like the floorless design that leaves the horse hair and border collie fur plus dirt in camp and not in my pack(s). For backpacking I use a BD flick lock trek pole with a length of light poly pipe cut to length for the center pole. I also own a Utopia 2 and recently picked up a proto ShangriLa2 for next season.
@joe25ification The video was a review of the SL3, not all Pyramids as I didn't have the time. The BD does have a bigger footprint, but is actually smaller inside and at 6'2" I don't find there's as much 'useful' room inside it. The guy tabs are none adjustable, so next to useless and it really needs additional loops sewn in along the base in between these tabs to provide extra stability as it really does catch the wind. The BD is more a summer chill shelter than 3 season winter.
The BD and Hex are extremely similar products and both are well-proven shelters for ski touring in Canadian Rockies. Perhaps conditions are different in England.
@Shewie01 Yes it would help of course, but I found when I tried something with the same base, it was still too small and sank in damp ground. The side stand plate, was by far the best way to go, or a jam jar lid.
They always make a tent sound bigger than what it is. The problem is you don't have enough room for your gear if you sleep as many people as they claim. A tent like that to me would be a one man tent.
now that winter begins, how's this shelter hold up against snow if staked out good and snow pushed up around the outer edge a few inches deap? any one know if it would hold up and work good?
VERY USEFUL TIP I use two extending walking poles from opposite sides Joined at the top by pushing into 4 inches of 25 mm hydraulic hose to hold up my Shangri la. Its REALLY stable and no pesky centre pole between me and my girl any more ;-> Bliss.
"Considerably lighter then the old Shangria-la 3" What are you talking about? The 2010 Shangri-la 3 (main body) is about 2 ounces heavier then the 2009 model.
Anyone know anything about the ShangriLa 3 part weights? My '09 shelter is 24oz.., my 2010 shelter is 23oz., '09 floor 22oz., 2010 floor is 19oz. although the GoLite claimed weight is 15oz., the 2010 nest is 32oz. while it is claimed to be 29oz on the golite website. Have verified with many scales. Can anyone explain the weight discrepancies? Also, the materiel of the 2010 is claimed to be stronger than the older silnylon SL3's but how about durability? Wouldn't let 1 spark hit the 2010!
Problem, if it's raining and you open the door of the tent, rain will come inside . Design needs vestabile added to the entrance to keep rain out when opened.
It seems people manage quite well just by unclipping the inner near the door to get in and remove wet clothing. This style tent has now evolved since 2010, and there are 100's of users who love the space and aerodynamics of teepee tents. Hex Peak and WickiUps.
@joe25ification 'Time' as in the 'Time limits placed on video in RUclips'. If you've had your Hex for 8 years, what on earth do you expect to learn from these videos? All it is designed to do is explain any new features or changes to the established product to enable people to be more informed about their shelter choice. Which I hope it has done. Sorry to dissapoint you, but just what are you expecting from all this free content on RUclips produced by people who share a passion?
Adding discussion of various other of pyramid shelters would improve this video. BD "Megamid" is I believe, slightly larger, cheaper and lighter. In theory, Hex is more windproof. There are at least several others. All are excellent I'd guess. NYC gets significantly more rain, and more intense storms, than London, But my old Hex has a tiny leak.. because I am too lazy to fix it.. But heck, I LIKE getting dripped on (unlike y'all effete Euros).
1:51 "..beautifull to hold as if you're into a pole-sorta thing.." ROFL ahahahaha ;-) Interesting product and a nice vid, well made and great tips also, thanks!
@TheUrbanPrepper You might want to go to 'appy trails.com , and look at what they have. I am 6'4" so I know what you are thinking about. Happy hunting.
I don't understand why tou want that tent when Hilleberg got "Rogen" a 2 layer tent that weight 2,1 kilo. Shure it is more expensive, but with the right care it will survive your whole outdoorlife.
I do understand your time constraint!!! Time is money, after all.... I am fairly content with my Hex 3, acquired 7-8 years ago, but despite intensive curiousity on my part, I've actually earned NOTHING from your disappointing effort. Sorry!
one of if not THE best review of anything i've ever watched. Brilliant. answered every possible question and i liked the kick stand pad idea. im ordering mine now. cheers from ca.
Useful video thanks Bob
Do you think a rubber ferrule from a walking stick/crutch would work for the foot of the pole?
Not sure if it was mentioned yet but you can cut a tennis ball in half and yes that for a light weight tent pole holder.
Great video, thanks for all the details, great to see it live and also what it packs down to.
This is the first of your vids I have watched and you have an excellent presentation style. I was thinking of purchasing a Go-Lite Shangri-La 3. Your review has made me want one even more. If I may, I am of the opinion that you should always subtract at least 1 and with some designs even 2 or 3 "bodies" from what manufactures of tents claim for their tent capacities. I've never seen a 2 man tent that 2 men that weren't any bigger than 5'7" and more than 75 kilos in size.Thanks for a great vid.
I should also add that I typically use a cheap poly tarp for a ground cloth when stock based and the ultra light window vinyl stuff for back packing. We have slept two 6' men and two border collies whilst navigating the Escalante via inflatable Aire kayaks and other trips. It was raining so the dogs slept in the "trianges" and the packs were outside. I also had Bear Paw cut a nest in two and added netting to each half so that I only have to pack 1/2 nest when solo and bugs are insatiable.
Thanks for the nice review! With this video, I made my choice. I recently purchased the SL-3. This is a really good tent, including for our Siberian climate.
Thanks for the good review and some handy tips. Would have been great though to see how you set it up including the nest in combination with the rain fly.
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but there's something "so right" about this tent! Thanx for posting
Thank you for putting together this video so well, it's been very informative.
I've been looking for a good lightweight tent. Then only problem is that I am tall (6'5"). Do you think this tent would for me? It seems like it may be a little tight.
Really helpful video to be safely and comfortably equipped. Thnx.
The golite hex3 (shangrila3's predecessor) is my main tent both for wilderness horse based camping and for back packing. I like the floorless design that leaves the horse hair and border collie fur plus dirt in camp and not in my pack(s). For backpacking I use a BD flick lock trek pole with a length of light poly pipe cut to length for the center pole. I also own a Utopia 2 and recently picked up a proto ShangriLa2 for next season.
do you still have/use this tent? Would you care to sell or trade another shelter or something?
Yes and no :) Many thanks
Thanks for a great review of the tent. One thing I wonder - Is it possible to pitch the full nest inner and outer as one in wet weather?
you have sold it to me, just ordered one of these, great review
@joe25ification The video was a review of the SL3, not all Pyramids as I didn't have the time. The BD does have a bigger footprint, but is actually smaller inside and at 6'2" I don't find there's as much 'useful' room inside it. The guy tabs are none adjustable, so next to useless and it really needs additional loops sewn in along the base in between these tabs to provide extra stability as it really does catch the wind. The BD is more a summer chill shelter than 3 season winter.
I heard someone complaining the fabric wasn't very durable. Have you had any problems with tears?
nice review, sweet euro campground footage at the end.
The BD and Hex are extremely similar products and both are well-proven shelters for ski touring in Canadian Rockies. Perhaps conditions are different in England.
Thanks for the video, it was very helpful in making a selection.
@Shewie01 Yes it would help of course, but I found when I tried something with the same base, it was still too small and sank in damp ground. The side stand plate, was by far the best way to go, or a jam jar lid.
im really wanting to buy one of these but do you not get alot of wind coming under the tent with the gaps there ?
They always make a tent sound bigger than what it is. The problem is you don't have enough room for your gear if you sleep as many people as they claim. A tent like that to me would be a one man tent.
Yes !!! Where is the luggage? Shoes, Toiletcase, trousers and jackets? Maybe they all Go by car, but than they they dont need this Tent ;-))))
now that winter begins, how's this shelter hold up against snow if staked out good and snow pushed up around the outer edge a few inches deap? any one know if it would hold up and work good?
is it big enough for a 6'6" guy?
exellent review!
thank you very much.
a fantastic job for a fantastic tent :)
Avery imformative video, could you please tell me what the Hydrostatic head of the material, thank you..
Where did you get yours, it's out of stock everywhere until april 2013 :(
@TheOutdoorsStation Thanks Bob, I'll keep my eye out for a stand plate
VERY USEFUL TIP I use two extending walking poles from opposite sides Joined at the top by pushing into 4 inches of 25 mm hydraulic hose to hold up my Shangri la.
Its REALLY stable and no pesky centre pole between me and my girl any more ;->
Bliss.
Awesome tip! I'm usually under a tree, so I'm gonna try rope from above..
@Shewie01 Not sure it would fit. I use a plastic folding cup, cost less than a ferrule when bought in a surplus store.
@lensgrabber No I don't sorry. I wish I did. Just when I come up with a solution for the twist lock kind of poles, they go and change the design LOL!
Do you have any solutions for the Leki Aergon w/ Speedlock?
"Considerably lighter then the old Shangria-la 3"
What are you talking about?
The 2010 Shangri-la 3 (main body) is about 2 ounces heavier then the 2009 model.
Nice review!
Too stop the pole sinking use pop bottle too. Light. Easy put water in it.
Anyone know anything about the ShangriLa 3 part weights? My '09 shelter is 24oz.., my 2010 shelter is 23oz., '09 floor 22oz., 2010 floor is 19oz. although the GoLite claimed weight is 15oz., the 2010 nest is 32oz. while it is claimed to be 29oz on the golite website. Have verified with many scales. Can anyone explain the weight discrepancies? Also, the materiel of the 2010 is claimed to be stronger than the older silnylon SL3's but how about durability? Wouldn't let 1 spark hit the 2010!
Great video, thank you.
Problem, if it's raining and you open the door of the tent, rain will come inside . Design needs vestabile added to the entrance to keep rain out when opened.
It seems people manage quite well just by unclipping the inner near the door to get in and remove wet clothing. This style tent has now evolved since 2010, and there are 100's of users who love the space and aerodynamics of teepee tents. Hex Peak and WickiUps.
how is this different from the new hexpeak 4
Hexpeak V4A? Firstly Golite went bust shortly after this video. The V4A is slightly smaller, lighter and considerably cheaper than this ever was.
@joe25ification 'Time' as in the 'Time limits placed on video in RUclips'. If you've had your Hex for 8 years, what on earth do you expect to learn from these videos? All it is designed to do is explain any new features or changes to the established product to enable people to be more informed about their shelter choice. Which I hope it has done. Sorry to dissapoint you, but just what are you expecting from all this free content on RUclips produced by people who share a passion?
Im sorry with that pole in the middle It does not look like there is enough room.
This item was reviewed in 2010, but I think the HH is 1500mm
Nice!
Adding discussion of various other of pyramid shelters would improve this video. BD "Megamid" is I believe, slightly larger, cheaper and lighter. In theory, Hex is more windproof. There are at least several others. All are excellent I'd guess.
NYC gets significantly more rain, and more intense storms, than London, But my old Hex has a tiny leak.. because I am too lazy to fix it.. But heck, I LIKE getting dripped on (unlike y'all effete Euros).
Without the inner nest, probably yes.
1:51 "..beautifull to hold as if you're into a pole-sorta thing.." ROFL ahahahaha ;-)
Interesting product and a nice vid, well made and great tips also, thanks!
@TheUrbanPrepper You might want to go to 'appy trails.com , and look at what they have.
I am 6'4" so I know what you are thinking about.
Happy hunting.
I don't understand why tou want that tent when Hilleberg got "Rogen" a 2 layer tent that weight 2,1 kilo. Shure it is more expensive, but with the right care it will survive your whole outdoorlife.
*use :)
I do understand your time constraint!!! Time is money, after all....
I am fairly content with my Hex 3, acquired 7-8 years ago, but despite intensive curiousity on my part, I've actually earned NOTHING from your disappointing effort.
Sorry!