Arnold Schoenberg - Suite im alten Stile, for string orchestra (1934)
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- Suite im alten Stile [Suite in G major], for string orchestra (1934)
I. Overture [0:00]
II. Adagio [6:03]
III. Minuet [11:20]
IV. Gavotte [16:05]
V. Gigue [22:16]
A suite for string orchestra by Austrian composer Arnold Schoenberg (1874-1951), constructed in the manner of a Baroque dance suite. This was the first work that Schoenberg composed after fleeing to the United States, and it was premiered by the Los Angeles Philharmonic under the baton of Otto Klemperer in 1935. The suite was originally intended as a pedagogical tool for talented student orchestras to become familiar with modern fingerings, bowings, phrasing, intonation and dynamics, as well as the Baroque dance forms.
Violin: Jennifer Frautschi
Viola: Richard O'Neill
Cello: Fred Sherry
Conductor: Robert Craft
Twentieth Century Classics Ensemble, New York
![Arnold Schoenberg - Suite for String Orchestra in G Major [With score]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zospTrYqFJo/mqdefault.jpg)
Like all of Schoenberg's work, this is an intensly personal musical expression. Every phrase oozes with emotion and sincerity.
The reason for the piece as explained in the notes is pure Schoenberg. I would suggest his need for such a work, his recent move to America, shows that even Schoenberg had a need to resort to things that were comfortable. What a genius.
A cleverly appropriate choice of artwork to accompany this music. It is by Piet Mondrian, but before he developed the grid painting style he termed Neo-Plasticism.
It is one of my favorite all-time classical pieces of music. Intelligent, sensitive, surprising, very coherent, especially worthwile to listen to it, say, 20 times, in order for it to reveals all its riches.
A lot of people getting very exercised by the variety of styles. Calm down folks. Schoenberg when young earned his money by orchestrating operettas. Beethoven wrote Fur Elise as well as the Hammerklavier. Brahms became rich on the Hungarian Dances and envied Strauss the Blue Danube Waltz. There is not a composer in history who is 'just one thing.'
This is simply a stunning work of beauty. Leave it to Schoenberg to really subvert our expectations by writing a few pieces like these. Other interesting late-era tonal works include Kol Nidre, Theme And Variations For Band and Chamber Symphony No. 2 (half written before 1910, completed in a similar style about 30 years later)
Cameron Hall It takes a little work to get used to later Schoenberg. That said, the tonal works are all really good. Try the first string quartet (or the more famous Verklaerte Nacht, though I prefer the string quartet :P)
A local radio station played the fourth movement the other day and asked listeners to guess the composer. I was genuinely stumped, but got it narrowed down to 1920-1940. It sounds like Ravel in a blender (especially starting at 18:05) with a bit of "wrong" thrown in that makes it sarcastically beautiful.
Very moving and powerful This piece demanded all my emotions.
Tão interessante quanto Stravinsky escrevendo música dodecafônica é o mestre brincando com o estilo neoclássico. Brilhante!
I heard even neoclassical parts on this, very good
This wonderful composition and Verklarte Nacht are my favourite Schoenberg. On first hearing I recall not being able to identify the origin and surprised on learning it. Lovely works
1:33 ....... 6:00 ____ : Beethoven (Grosse Fuge). Todo el 1º movimiento es una variación de la Gran Fuga.
Oh, yes, you are right! I didn't recognize Mondrian at first
I've heard an earlier recording of this work (on LP), also by Robert Craft but with a different orchestra (Columbia I think), which as I remember it was superior to this version (sharper), but it was indeed many years ago.
Schoenberg has the nostalgy of his virtuosity in writing tonal simple pieces. Parhaps is he looking for a way to reassure himself.
Reassure himself about what? He could write in various styles. That's what makes him a master.
Que lindo suena estooo!!
masterpiece
It 's still very Germanic music. Does it have an opus no.? Final tonic chords with each movement!The very surprising gigue . I need to find out when he rescored the Brahms piano quintet and find his letters.The music is very much about its materials as always with Schonberg. The adagio has charm.The minuet makes me think of Toch.A harmonic vocabulary unique to S but the rhythms are more familiar .The Gavotte more easily appealing.I'd like to hear Klemperer in this and Walter!or scherchen.Sch music gives up some of its secrets with a score.30 listens won't do it as someone here says.Parallels we can hear,rhyme,some symmetries but much else we cant.We hear form most often.
Adolphe Menjou
Yet I recall that Klemperer performed Verklärte Nacht.
+MarcusHK1 And the first performance of Erwartung.
The description states that Klemperer conducted the premier of this piece.
Arnold Schönberg:G-dúr Szvit
1. Nyitány: Largo - Allegro 00:00
2. Adagio 06:03
3. Menuet - Trio: Moderato 11:20
4. Gavotte: Moderato 16:05
5. Gigue: Moderato - Poco meno mosso, ma vivace 22:16
New York-i Huszadik századi klasszikusok Együttese
Vezényel:Robert Craft
thx
Mi pare di ascoltare l'ultimo Beethoven... Hammer Klavier...Grossa Fuga..
A lost Stravinsky ballet :)
This is astonishing. I've been listening to Arnie for years. Who is THIS guy? Reminds a bit of Prokoviev and Britten's flirtations with the neoclassical. But maybe it's just the era/movement I'm hearing rather than the artist. Like all 70's dub Reggae sounds like 70's dub reggae :)
MI PIACE
Okay, but I wouldn't have identified this piece as Schoenberg. Apart from being tonal, it's also thoroughly melodic, very unlike the fragmented texture found in many of his instrumental works.
...couldn't believe I was listening to a Schoenberg piece...
Can someone clarify- in specifying only one performer per instrument, does that mean they tracked each part using only the instrumentalists mentioned?
I think they are the solists, supported by the Twentieth Century Classics Ensemble.
Who is the artist of the paint?
It's 'Avond (Evening): The Red Tree' by Piet Mondrian
Its Mondrian
@@hughshrapnel4448 dutch : Piet Mondriaan
Name of the painting ?
Please.
It's one of Piet Mondriaan's tree paintings, c. 1912
Quanto Beethoven...la grossa fuga...
No credit to the artist of the thumbnail...
I am convinced that Schoenberg was either schizophrenic or completely mad. Compare this piece written in 1934 to the Variations for Orchestra written 8 years earlier. I cannot see the connection between the same musical brain. Two different compositions that sound like two different people writing them with the same name! Whilst I enjoy nearly all of Schoenberg's music, with the exception of Pierrot Lunaire that I find almost impossible to understand, can someone please tell me what's was going on here?
Exceptionnally he deliberately composed in neoclassical style for this particular work, so why not? Stravinsky for example also composed in a variety of styles, from neoclassical (though not to the point of the Suite im alten Stile) to atonal.
You are absolutely spot on. Fortunately I can listen to either. I believe some tonality must still still taught, otherwise the film music output would suffer.
My "learned" friend Ryan, thank you so much for your reply. So refreshing to exchange messages with people who understand music rather than so many who just write rubbish on You Tube.
Firstly, I will indeed investigate Fennimore & Noland. I already know a couple symphonies by Rochberg but not the String Quartet you mentioned. So many thanks for that.
The Symphony & Violin Concerto of Korngold are fantastic pieces, and personally, although it must have been good income for him, I think he wasted a lot of his talent writing film music that has since become a little dated. But that's just my opinion. He wrote an interesting Piano Quartet and I also like the Piano Trio Op 1 that you mention.
Have you heard the symphony by Hans Rott who Mahler thought so highly of? Sadly Rott died early, but the potential is definitely evident in this work.
Finally, you mentioned "the master" of it all. I could never ever get bored listening to anything JSB wrote and I have his entire works (150 cd's) in my library, but cannot admit to listening to all of them!!!
Sorry, The Hans Rott work is the Symphony in E major and not the Symphony for Strings
Hi Ryan, I've just listened to Joseph Fennimore's Concerto Piccolo. A good work. If you like this, can I recommend the music of Jean Francaix. His piece The Flower Clock is a good place to start. D
Sometimes great composers wrote music that was designed for more popular tastes in order to pay the rent. These pieces belong in a separate category and should not be compared to the more "serious" works. This is neoclassicism in the extreme. Stravinsky went that route too but came up with more attractive stuff such as Orpheus and Apollo. Schoenberg came from the society that gave us Sigmund Freud and Franz Kafka so don't expect the music to be fun. Serious, yes...fun, no.
@Jerf Hankell I'm afraid you may be right.
no 'fun' maybe 'Vergnügen' ? some sense of adventure whille remainig calm and selfconscious "got an ideal here and will make it work and play" easily difficult down on the sky urgently postponed no market no rent no house no more
I can regret this later but...If my comments helps: i could not hear more than 5 minutes. Hope noone write a comment like this about what I compose haha
You're OK. I still can't decide if I like this. I can see its "merit", but I am perhaps too old to be swept up in it. Probably a matter of taste - like everything else. My brother calls Bach " a superstitious German peasant".
This red tree expresses better impossible the essence of the musical creations made by this crazy man Schonberg: all twisted, lonely standing, attention claiming and in the big scale rather senseless.
@Jerf Hankellaccordingly to your little astonishment I've corrected my expressions as best as I could, ENG no es my native language, sorry 🤷♂️
You're either very young or very old, or just never grew up.
Something is chronically missing, like a singer who doesn't know she's flat. He's trying to show he can do an Apollo, but he can't.
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