Luke Cage under Killgrave's control was my favorite part of this episode block. I honestly didn't know whether or not Jessica was going to manage to get away from him.
+holyarchangelmichael She's the main character, _obviously_ she was going to get away. To be so simple minded must be amazing. Not being able to put 2 and 2 together so whatever happens next is always a surprise.
+SeanTheOriginal "Not being able to put 2 and 2 together so whatever happens next is always a surprise." He may be simple-minded, but at least he knows sentence structure.
I loved the Night Nurse appearance, even though I knew Daredevil wouldn't make an appearance I still hoped it would happen. So the little reference she makes about him, made me so happy. I wish a crossover will happen soon. It doesn't have to be a major cross over like with Luke cage, but one episodes or 10 min on screen is all I want.
It'll happen once they get to the Defenders series. That'll combine all the Marvel Netflix series together. That's a while off though. They still have Luke Cage and Iron Fist to get to first.
The Jessica vs Luke was my favorite episode. That's the type of fight I was waiting for the whole season. And I like the actor that played Nuke, I thought he was good.
+Howard The Duck In the Simpson/Jessica fight, neither character really held back too much so it was a more brutal match. I think Kilgrave told Luke Cage he could hurt Jessica but not actually kill her. He wanted to force Jessica into seriously hurting, maybe even killing Luke.
+Lupin788 which she very much couldve.they showed several times throughout the series that she is a bit more powerful than he is. That's what's so funny about the daredevil kids talking about how daredevil would take her down.she makes an effort to not use all her strength all the time because she doesn't want to kill anyone ever again.one hit and daredevil would die.hes the weakest of the Netflix heroes.
+leepicciotto Except that there is no way Jessica would be able to lay a finger on Daredevil, because of his fighting skills and his power. He would definitely beat her.
Isn't IGH, meant to be the MCU replacement for the comics MGH (Mutant Growth Hormone), since Marvel can't use Mutants? So IGH is suppose to be a Inhuman Growth Hormone
I didn't see his previous video, thanks for telling me man. Well at least that's clarified. I guess all mutants and mutates are now Inhumans in the MCU.
+Tyrone Amadou I'll talk a little more about that during my finale video, but it was a bummer. But I think the way they wrote it is more true to the themes they were trying to convey with the series in general. Night Nurse is a better tool for commentary on Jessica's situation.
+Emergency Awesome Well maybe not Daredevil but I would love her to throw Hogarth away (as a manipulative b... cow) and than Murdock shows up as her attorney.
Marvel: we are very serious about making the villains mediocre/bad. Audience: but killgrave is actually good. Marvel: oh really? thanks dude, thanks... _(whispers to the director of the show: KILL HIM OFF, NOW)_
I have been watching your videos for quite a while now (started with GoT ) and what amazes me the most , is your enthusiasm and knowledge about all this comic book stuff, backstories etc. It is amazing how much detailed information you provide in each video, knowing that you make a lot of videos about a lot of stuff. Keep up the good work and greetings from Latvia. ;)
As long as they don't make any problems and all of a sudden back out they will. It's part of the plan. The thing about MARVEL is that they don't make anything that isn't going to conect in some way one day. But first they are going to form The Defenders. And then The Defenders will show up in Infinity War most likley. Atleast that is what MARVEL has made it sound like. That everything they have will all come together in Infinity War.
Not for a while No civil war No dr strange that'd be weird Definitely no guardians I don't want them in Spider-Man No Thor for sure No black panther Infinity War is their best chance
+Daz B If anything, they would be cameo appearances, such as through dialogue or say if they scrolled through active heroes, and Jessica and Luke Cage are part of the list.
That they changed how his powers work (from pheromones to a virus) was the only part I didn't like in the series. Pheromones would also explain better the duration of the power and the proximity. Still, JJ is my favorite superhero series.
It would but pheromones attract and they wanted it to be clear that he had taken her in every way completely against her will.viruses infect and take over your system from the inside which better represented the character and their relationship.
I also thought of that at first, but they needed a reason to how did Jessica break free from his control. If it's a virus, she can build a resistance over a long period of time. It's Killgrave's fault, because he was so into her that he spent too much time with her. But, if it were a pheromone then she could be in his control for ever.
***** They made it like it was her willpower that drove her away from him and out of his control and not a resistance to a virus. If that was the case, then it would be too convenient that the resistance surfaced just after she killed Cage's gf. That would be a hell of a timing.
Actually... while they explain his power was the effect of introducing the virus into him but they never go into how it actually works because no one actually have the time to study it, including his father. His failure to actually made the antibodies show that he didn't quite know how it work & the power itself is more than just the virus, so it was never about being immune to the virus itself. His increase of range and power is much easier for him because a virus can be made more aggressive but that didn't really work on Jones because the actual effect wasn't just a matter of the virus.
I 100% agree with you about the actor playing Simpson. The guy was just awful and it annoyed me, and not in the "but you're supposed to hate him so he did his job" way either. Every time he came on screen I cringed. It's the only thing about this season that I didn't like at all.
+Ken Killings Very mediocre acting from the dude, the only thing he did right was when he was controlled by killgrave because it fit his mechanical and robotic acting lmao
The argument about Kilgrave doing those horrible things as child and not being responsible for it is a really interesting one. Children have tantrums, if that child just so happens to posses this terrifying ability, but is not aware of it, is it really his fault that he made his parents do those awful things? Such a complicated character, one of the best villains I've ever seen.
+nope. ash I hope he got enhanced to survive the ending, maybe he got regenerative powers from all that so that he can come back when they feel like having him back in the show.
+Exynos Naw it was more than that. He'd already been enhanced by that point, but he was enhanced a few times during that stretch so it could have been anywhere between 16 hours where his powers were when he started controlling Cage and fooled Jessica or like 24 or better after that as he was enhanced further.
Favorite thing from the last episodes: Claire Temple and that she mentions her gifted friend who needs to be stitched every now and then. I also liked how Malcolm became part of Alias Investigations. Who do you think will be the villain in season 2? Is it possible that they bring Kilgrave back somehow?
OK spoiler for ep 13 I honestly thought and hoped that when jessica is being arrested for kilgraves murder that it would end with Matt murdock walking into the room and being like "Mrs Jones a friend told me you needed a lawyer" actually sad that didn't happen
Hey Charlie luv your stuff, would you ever consider a meet and greet or set up a comic con booth, I actually live in Australia but I would luv to see footage of that. Keep up the good work 😊
+Detective Marvel I'll totally be doing meetups at cons I go to, I just don't have staff to help me yet. Usually I go to cons to work, so I don't have a lot of free time. Hopefully next year by Comic Con I'll have more people to help me.
+Emergency Awesome I've heard that Marvel is thinking about switching the Iron Fist show with Punisher because they like what the actor is doing with him. Why can't they just do a heroes for hire show with Luke Cage and Iron Fist? They could replace the Luke Cage show with that and still have a Punisher show! Plus, a heroes for hire show could introduce a lot more street level heroes to the Netflix universe.
+Ahmed Alhussainy I thought Jessica was going to do that too, but they never talk about it after that, I mean Kilgrave won't really die losing a tongue.
For the review on ep 13, I think probably the biggest question and discussion now is whether Kilgrave should have died, and indeed, whether he is actually dead. Should he come back or not? Should he pull a Moriarty and disappear for a while before coming back? I think he's up there with Loki, in terms of best Marvel villains on screen so far. I like your analogy about Jessica and Kilgrave, comparing them to the Joker and Harley Quinn. Let's face it, the two of them together is what makes this show great and unique, and the biggest reason why we're watching it.
Hi Charlie - I may be in the minority, but overall I thought the series was just OK. The parts were better then the sum as far as Krysten Ritter, Mike Colter and of course David Tennant being great but the storytelling/writing, I thought, was really sloppy. And the whole Will Simpson and Hoggarth arcs were awful. Too long to explain or go into all of my gripes but hopefully season 2 will be better and more focused.
+CV Jackson Beyond the superhero stuff it's also a series about the diagesis of a female superhero. So naturally more focus on the female characters would be a big thing.
it was the only way to end killgrave there was no other way they would have beat him in the comics he goes to supermax the only way he escapes is because of carnage and we don't have carnage so if we went to supermax were not seeing him again anyways
+Set Arrxows yeah annoys me too. I really enjoy a good villain, e.g. i hate batman but i love the dark knight trilogy purely because of the villains, ra's al ghul, joker and bane, all awesome and great to watch. Thats also the main reason i enjoy daredevil and jessica jones, dont get me wrong they are both amazingly executed and very well acted, but the dark tone is something i dont like too much of and i prefer a bit more humour, so overall i enjoy the marvel movies more, buttt i absolutely adore the villains in DD and JJ. Also they actually scare me and i can feel real stakes as opposed to the marvel films. Anyway, i would absolutely love them to bring kilgrave back. I dont care what bs excuse they use to bring him back, just do it and give him plenty of screen time all season long. I love to see his character develop and be so calm one minute and then a total psycho the next, its so awesome to watch.
+Zein Alfurati Well do you realise how stupid he would look if he was purple all the time -.- this isn't the comics this is the TV adaptation and i think they did a really good job!
Ragnas Why would he look stupid if he was purple? Gamora was green and she looked fine. I don't get why purple skin would make him stupid. Even if we stick only with the Netflix shows we have a blind guy who is also a ninja, implications of the magical, an old Asian lay from off-world, a barkeep with unbreakable skin and a man who can control minds. You're telling me that in a world that has all of that, giving a guy purple skin would be stupid? That makes no sense. We're already so far removed from reality that they might as well go all the way.
I'm surprised so many people didn't like the Jeri Hogarth subplot with her wife. I thought it was fascinating to see a same sex relationship deteriorating like that. I've never seen anything like it. Plus, Jeri trying to get involved with Kilgrave to help her get the divorce showed how morally messed up she is. AND it royally backfired on her. I loved her storyline.
I loved the moment in ep 13 when Killgrave told Jessica and everyone on the harbor to stop, and his face turned purple from the blood rushing to his head.
I was actually super suprised that they used Nuke. He's really underrated and made for a great character. Hope to see more of him and maybe this will open the gates to other awesome villains like Taskmaster.
My favorite part of this block was when Jessica was living in her childhood house with Kilgrave, and I like very much where Jessica tryes to use Kilgrave powers for good
Love the show - I'd have to say the way they linked Jessica & Daredevil through Jessica's conversations with the nurse while they are tending to Luke's injuries. The nurse talked about him, but kept it vague enough that only the audience knew who she was talking about.
Loved the explanation of it being a virus, explains why Jessica became immune to it, being all superhumany. I don't blame Kilgrave's parents though, they were trying to save them, and where at the beck and whim of a child. Simpson was kind of just dialed in, I could have done with or without him. Fight scene with Jessica and Luke was awesome! Finally cool to see them go all out, loved how she beat him too, how do you beat a man with unbreakable skin...hurting bombs, blunt force trauma. Loved to see Patsy kick some ass.
I was really glad that in episodes 9-13 they brought back the purple lighting from episode 1-2 that just disappeared, adds greatly to the atmosphere. I also feel like the more violence in the back half was a course correction, it was very soft in the first half compared to Daredevil and its infamous crushing a head with a car door till it popped.
I must admit I liked the part when Jessica and Luke are fighting where Jessica rips off the door from the cop car. It reminded me of the first Captain America movie with the taxi door.
I think the IGH thing is just a good way to bring the Defenders together, since they already have ties to two of them (obviously Cage's "experiment" was involved or the flash drive wouldn't have been meant for him), and I'm sure Danny will have some sort of tie-in, even if it's not his origin story. Throw in Matt and Foggy investigating them and you have a common enemy to form a group like the Defenders...
There is the scene where he buys Jessica's old house with cash. For some reason Killgrave goes to great lengths to NOT use his powers on the guy but he has to chose his words carefully in order not to give an order. He also said his amped up powers lasted 24 hours instead of eight. So the guy at the fence just had to stand there for a day, not a week.
Charlie I have a question, are Simpson and dr Kozlov from the comics? Do you think this doctor knows Madam Gao from daredevil and do you think they together with villains from Iron Fist and Luke Cage shows will form a villain group for the Defenders show.
Thanksgiving from 11am to midnight: Turkey prep and dinner with friends while we watched the entire series from start to finish. Paused/rewound parts we discussed as WTFs and needing back-story and still had breaks for dinner and dessert. Interesting to note that those who treated this as a non-superhero detective story liked it as much as we nerds did. High hopes for a Season 2 but we're gonna miss David Tennant who was simply riveting throughout without being pompous or slapstick-ish.
How do you think they will work out the characters crossing between the Luke Cage series and Jessica Jones? Since these shows tend to drop all at once, they can't really do a simultaneous one episode of each timeline like Flash and Arrow, but there's really no way to make it so that one show is independent of the other with the two most important characters being shared.
+Dan Johnson Perhaps but you never know with Hydra. I feel like Hydra has had a hand in many organizations. I cant wait till season 2 to see how it plays out!
***** from what we know there is nothing to suggest that it would be. and i doubt that would be the first thing that netflix does to connect them more solid.
With General Ross being in Captain America, do you think HGI has any connections to him and the blood that was retrieved at the end of incredible Hulk movie? It would seem logical that all that blood and research that Dr. Sterns did would be put to use for secret super soldier experiments like for Luke Cage as well. It would be a cool connection.
A few things that bugged me. "Aliens fall from the sky, but everyone drawing the line at Mind Control." not the exact words. Then there was the way they showed her powers. Lifting Luke from the bed, should have looked more natural. He looked stiff as a board. It was ok overall. Would check out Season 2.
Definitely also sin bin was my favorite. My question is that they mentioned Angela Del Toro (White Tiger) in the series, would you like to see her come onto Jessica Jones season 2 should it be picked up (most likely will).
Awesome show, but i was actually really sad to see David Tennant go. First time I ever wanted a villain to survive! He played it perfectly and although I loved him as The Doctor he totally disappeared into this role which was awesome. Looking forward to hearing what you thought of the last episode Charlie!
Love the show but I agree in the middle it drags just a little. I think mainly because of 3 things, 1: the storyline with the lawyer and her wife, 2: The nuke dude storyline and his acting, 3: I felt at one point that it was a little redundant how they catch Kilgrave or have him cornered and he escaped multiple times. That being said the show is really cool and deals in a good way with a lot of topics. I like the ending as well although I was expecting them to either cut his tongue or leave him mute somehow but still alive.
I like the part when (In one of the episodes in Jessica's old house ) killgrave says that he choses his words carefully so he doesn't accidentally kill some. To emphasize on that he said " I once told a man to go 'screw himself' .
episode 9 was a favorite of mine, and for the same reasons as well. I was able to feel sympathy for Kilgrave and even liked the idea of him using his powers for good. I almost wish we could've seen more of it, but i ended up appreciating Jessica's decision to take him down.
Since they changed Kilgrave's powers from pheromones to virus, here's a fun thought: Imagine how many people on this planet Kilgrave may have "infected" (judging by what his powers can achieve, I'm pretty sure it's a lot). Now, imagine if this virus still "remains" within each individual, instead of being fought by the immune system, even if it tries hard. In Jessica's case, it did. If the virus survives for a long period, what if this virus transmits airborne / via birth? Given the number of people and enough time, there's bound to be "some" cases of Horizontal Gene Transfer, where - instead of simply creating immunity from the virus - the body "adopts" the functions of the virus to create more such viruses, and even giving that organic vehicle (that is, "Person") the ability to (in some degree) harness Kilgrave's powers of mind-control. Would it just be one person, or would it be many?
Favourite episode for me was actually 10 cuz that's the episode that Jessica had to actually face up to things and issues she's been running away or not directly facing them. I've a theory that IGH would be the overall nemesis for all the Netflix series. I wouldn't be surprised if IGH was the one behind the chemicals that blinded Matt in Daredevil. And that they were the ones that experimented on Luke Cage. IGH being part of Hydra is plausible but with Spiderman part of the MCU, they could go the route of Oscorp as well. Hell, it'll be damn fun if the Defenders had to go up against someone from Spidey's rogues list like Lizard. But I'll stick with your theory for now of them being in Hydra. Looking forward to your episode 13 review and what you think of the ending! :)!
I actually enjoyed Nuke/Simpson. Just like in Daredevil, they laid the foundations for future plots and villains to be dealt with. And bringing in the Night Nurse/Claire was wonderful as well.
I'd like the IGH had something to do with the Super Soldier program (Weapon Plus) and Roxxon, by the way I did like Nuke, I do feel like his fall from grace was rushed but I think it was meant to be a relapse rather than anything else.
Hey Charlie. Completely loved this season and really excited for season 2 but a part of me is worried it won't be as good without David Tennant. Do you think there is any chance we'll see him again?
Do you think the show may introduce carol Denver's in Jessica jones season two, when luke cage leaves for his own show, and maybe she can be part of the defenders
Questions for your next vid- Not to get too romancey but when/how do you think Luke is going to come back and clarify where he stands? All that stuff about forgiving Jessica was apparently Killgraves control but now that he has been throughly controlled maybe he knows there wasn't anything she could do and actually will forgive her? Also do you think they left the door open for a return of killgraves powers with fetus still out there...i know hogarth said nothing came of it but she isn't a scientist and i think if one of those IGH people got a hold of it they wouldn't want her to know so they could do whatever they wanted with it.
+Summer Bradshaw _All that stuff about forgiving Jessica was apparently Killgraves control _ _________________ That's not clear. In the car with Kilgrave, Luke said there was something there with him and Jessica. That part is fact. Nor do we know if Kilgrave scripted Luke words. Kilgrave easily could have ask Luke how he felt and Luke answered how he really felt and what he would say. *It really completely unclear.*
When will you be posting the video for episode 13 of Jessica Jones? I know that you are trying to space the videos out but it's been days since you said you would post it?
Do you think, when the time gem is introduced into the MCU that they could bring back villains that were killed off? Like Iron Monger. Or other villains?
This is kinda off topic but how many marvel tv shows are there right now? Cause I watch Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Jessica Jones, and Daredevil. Are there anymore?
+EeveeParty97 There was also talk about starting a comedy series about a crew of construction workers who clean up after superheroes. Not sure if that is still being planned though.
I really love how logical they are with this show. Such as the bullet in the head, they really thought it all out so well. Just finished the show and its amazing!
Would Kilgraves power work if he couldn't speak? I understand those effected would still have the virus in them but to do his bidding wouldn't he have to speak to them verbally?
Hey Charlie, did you mean for this video to include episode 13? I got about a third of the way through it and you started talking about things I hadn't seen yet after watching through 12. I went back and watched the last episode of the season and then understood things like the headphones, Hogarth, Kilgrave's father, etc. Just wanted to let you know so as not to spoil anything for your watchers!
For me the series lost a lot of its tension and momentum when Jessica found out that she was immune to Killgrave. Before that there was always this underlined tension about what if Killgrave decided to just command her again. I really wish that they would have saved that reveal for like EP 11 or 12.
I thought Simpson's actor did great. Could never tell what he was thinking. And that's what made him so threatening to me.
Plus war hardened soldier are kinda wooden.
+DrakeVagabond Agree I like him, plus the last Fight with him was pretty Awesome
What were the odds Kilgrave sent a random cop to kill Patsy and he ends up working for a secret military OPS? Felt too on the nose.
MCPrimetime What are the odds that Killgrave can check on the police records for the most efficient cop especially an ex military ops? Felt reasonable
I completely agree
Luke Cage under Killgrave's control was my favorite part of this episode block. I honestly didn't know whether or not Jessica was going to manage to get away from him.
+holyarchangelmichael Bull in a china shop.
+Emergency Awesome Pretty much.
+holyarchangelmichael She's the main character, _obviously_ she was going to get away.
To be so simple minded must be amazing. Not being able to put 2 and 2 together so whatever happens next is always a surprise.
+SeanTheOriginal "Not being able to put 2 and 2 together so whatever happens next is always a surprise."
He may be simple-minded, but at least he knows sentence structure.
+SeanTheOriginal Someone has no suspension of disbelief and is a dick.
I loved the Night Nurse appearance, even though I knew Daredevil wouldn't make an appearance I still hoped it would happen. So the little reference she makes about him, made me so happy. I wish a crossover will happen soon. It doesn't have to be a major cross over like with Luke cage, but one episodes or 10 min on screen is all I want.
It'll happen once they get to the Defenders series. That'll combine all the Marvel Netflix series together. That's a while off though. They still have Luke Cage and Iron Fist to get to first.
+Noah King never know we might see a cameo sometime before the defenders
Maybe daredevil season 2?
Carl Chalk never know i hope we at least get some kind of cameo
what episode is the night nurse in?
Let me know which episode from the last block was your favorite! Sin Bin is still mine, even after the finale.
+Emergency Awesome Same here
The episode when I thought those igh pills gave hellcat her powers
Oh man. Episode 11 was so intense for me
episode 9 was my favorite.I didn't like the last episode.they teased a lot but it didn't turn out to be anything good.
Yeah, I gotta agree with you Charlie. Everything amped up in episode 9. When Jessica was pressing the button and nothing was happening, I lost it lol
Any one else notice both on Daredevil and Jessica Jones the elder black guy dies. Ben Urich and Detective Clemons
+Damon Mckinney Jr. didnt notice because i dont look at people by thei skin color
ARE YOU PC, BRO?
The Jessica vs Luke was my favorite episode. That's the type of fight I was waiting for the whole season. And I like the actor that played Nuke, I thought he was good.
I thought the Nuke vs Jessica Fight was better lol
+Howard The Duck In the Simpson/Jessica fight, neither character really held back too much so it was a more brutal match. I think Kilgrave told Luke Cage he could hurt Jessica but not actually kill her. He wanted to force Jessica into seriously hurting, maybe even killing Luke.
+Lupin788 which she very much couldve.they showed several times throughout the series that she is a bit more powerful than he is. That's what's so funny about the daredevil kids talking about how daredevil would take her down.she makes an effort to not use all her strength all the time because she doesn't want to kill anyone ever again.one hit and daredevil would die.hes the weakest of the Netflix heroes.
+Lupin788 he clearly said kill her though
+leepicciotto Except that there is no way Jessica would be able to lay a finger on Daredevil, because of his fighting skills and his power. He would definitely beat her.
Isn't IGH, meant to be the MCU replacement for the comics MGH (Mutant Growth Hormone), since Marvel can't use Mutants? So IGH is suppose to be a Inhuman Growth Hormone
+xXshelldogXx Yah, he mentioned that in the previous video :)
I didn't see his previous video, thanks for telling me man. Well at least that's clarified. I guess all mutants and mutates are now Inhumans in the MCU.
Damn you Fox (shakes fist angrily)
+xXshelldogXx its a good theory but nobody knows for sure.
+xXshelldogXx
Or just something linking to AIM
are you disappointed that daredevil wasnt in the season finale
+Tyrone Amadou I'll talk a little more about that during my finale video, but it was a bummer. But I think the way they wrote it is more true to the themes they were trying to convey with the series in general. Night Nurse is a better tool for commentary on Jessica's situation.
+Emergency Awesome i don't think they should have used Daredevil, but Nelson & Murdock could have been utilized well.
+Emergency Awesome Well maybe not Daredevil but I would love her to throw Hogarth away (as a manipulative b... cow) and than Murdock shows up as her attorney.
+M. Koch murdock is daredevil smart one
Meh
I think they wanted to establish Jessica first
Marvel: we are very serious about making the villains mediocre/bad.
Audience: but killgrave is actually good.
Marvel: oh really? thanks dude, thanks... _(whispers to the director of the show: KILL HIM OFF, NOW)_
Lol!
lol
I think next seasons villain will be igh
+Peida Li loki, kingpin are both still alive and both great villains. ward on aos is a good villain as well. and who says kilgrave is for sure dead?
Abortion don't fail us now
I have been watching your videos for quite a while now (started with GoT ) and what amazes me the most , is your enthusiasm and knowledge about all this comic book stuff, backstories etc. It is amazing how much detailed information you provide in each video, knowing that you make a lot of videos about a lot of stuff. Keep up the good work and greetings from Latvia. ;)
Amazing Series. Hope the characters that played Luke and Jessica make it into the MCU movies, do you think they will?? great casing for this show
As long as they don't make any problems and all of a sudden back out they will. It's part of the plan. The thing about MARVEL is that they don't make anything that isn't going to conect in some way one day. But first they are going to form The Defenders. And then The Defenders will show up in Infinity War most likley. Atleast that is what MARVEL has made it sound like. That everything they have will all come together in Infinity War.
Not for a while
No civil war
No dr strange that'd be weird
Definitely no guardians
I don't want them in Spider-Man
No Thor for sure
No black panther
Infinity War is their best chance
+Carl Chalk Maybe they can be mentioned in civil war like how daredevil and the avengers were referenced in Jessica Jones
+Daz B If anything, they would be cameo appearances, such as through dialogue or say if they scrolled through active heroes, and Jessica and Luke Cage are part of the list.
+Daz B Never going to happen, they are gearing up for Infinity War. Thanos would snap her neck like a twig, same with Cage and Daredevil
When he breaks out of the sin bin and he tells "Put a bullet in your skull Patsy" my heart literally dropped and so did my jaw. Great episode.
That they changed how his powers work (from pheromones to a virus) was the only part I didn't like in the series. Pheromones would also explain better the duration of the power and the proximity. Still, JJ is my favorite superhero series.
+cartoon80s90s virus can also last in your system if anything i liked that better and that made more sense.
It would but pheromones attract and they wanted it to be clear that he had taken her in every way completely against her will.viruses infect and take over your system from the inside which better represented the character and their relationship.
I also thought of that at first, but they needed a reason to how did Jessica break free from his control. If it's a virus, she can build a resistance over a long period of time. It's Killgrave's fault, because he was so into her that he spent too much time with her. But, if it were a pheromone then she could be in his control for ever.
*****
They made it like it was her willpower that drove her away from him and out of his control and not a resistance to a virus. If that was the case, then it would be too convenient that the resistance surfaced just after she killed Cage's gf. That would be a hell of a timing.
Actually... while they explain his power was the effect of introducing the virus into him but they never go into how it actually works because no one actually have the time to study it, including his father. His failure to actually made the antibodies show that he didn't quite know how it work & the power itself is more than just the virus, so it was never about being immune to the virus itself. His increase of range and power is much easier for him because a virus can be made more aggressive but that didn't really work on Jones because the actual effect wasn't just a matter of the virus.
closing in on 1M subs, mega congrats Charlie! always a pleasure to come check out the channel every day, greetings from the UK :)
She's the best female lead I'd ever saw in any series, especially comics
I 100% agree with you about the actor playing Simpson. The guy was just awful and it annoyed me, and not in the "but you're supposed to hate him so he did his job" way either. Every time he came on screen I cringed. It's the only thing about this season that I didn't like at all.
+Ken Killings just looked like he was going to burst out crying in every scene he was in
Ice Cube Director of Shield Your avatar has me in tears! Hahaha
+Ken Killings Very mediocre acting from the dude, the only thing he did right was when he was controlled by killgrave because it fit his mechanical and robotic acting lmao
Yes so true
That's why doubt about non-Sarah Halley Finn castings
Love your videos Charlie, can't wait until you get the well deserved 1 million subs
+Brennan Lonnquist thanks!
The argument about Kilgrave doing those horrible things as child and not being responsible for it is a really interesting one. Children have tantrums, if that child just so happens to posses this terrifying ability, but is not aware of it, is it really his fault that he made his parents do those awful things? Such a complicated character, one of the best villains I've ever seen.
Simpson character was fun to watch. I hope he is in season 2. He was batshit cray
I'd like to see him fight Daredevil too
+Hermann Fegelein Punisher would kill him
+Iamasurvivor M
They did a nice job setting him up as a future villain. I suspect that he and IGH are going to be the bad guys in season 2.
He was so annoying
Just finished Jessica Jones to see Charlie has uploaded his review, life = complete.
right?
+Ankush Rai thanks!
i HATE that they killed killgrave marvel seriously needs to stop killing their villains
+djdog52 loki is still alive and kicking....
+gursimar singh so is kingpin
Janryll Isurita yup he is good to....but i liked killgrave more...
+djdog52 they kill off their weak and non apealing villains. nobody said kilgrave is dead. we dont know. the best marvel villains are still alive.
imo if he was the main villain for Season 2, it would have been redundant.
Finally, can't wait for your finale episode! Keep up the great work!
I feel like Kilgrave got severely enhanced for nothing. didn't loved the ending, show was pretty good though.
The ending felt pretty underwhelming
+nope. ash agreed, but he may come back.
Spoilers
He has a healing factor in the comics
+nope. ash The last few episodes were insanely crazy. LOVED the "Smile" scene when they actually took him down. Felt right for the show.
+nope. ash he only got enhanced to compel Jessica, no other reason, he is obsessed
+nope. ash I hope he got enhanced to survive the ending, maybe he got regenerative powers from all that so that he can come back when they feel like having him back in the show.
mu favorite thing was in episode 12, the way Killgrave said "surprise"
That dude survived for sure. Killgraves powers wear off after around 12 hours of not being around him. At least by that point.
+Exynos Naw it was more than that. He'd already been enhanced by that point, but he was enhanced a few times during that stretch so it could have been anywhere between 16 hours where his powers were when he started controlling Cage and fooled Jessica or like 24 or better after that as he was enhanced further.
Favorite thing from the last episodes: Claire Temple and that she mentions her gifted friend who needs to be stitched every now and then. I also liked how Malcolm became part of Alias Investigations.
Who do you think will be the villain in season 2? Is it possible that they bring Kilgrave back somehow?
OK spoiler for ep 13
I honestly thought and hoped that when jessica is being arrested for kilgraves murder that it would end with Matt murdock walking into the room and being like "Mrs Jones a friend told me you needed a lawyer" actually sad that didn't happen
+Connor Neale that woulda been a good end credit scene
Omg that would've been SO COOL
Hey Charlie luv your stuff, would you ever consider a meet and greet or set up a comic con booth, I actually live in Australia but I would luv to see footage of that. Keep up the good work 😊
+Detective Marvel I'll totally be doing meetups at cons I go to, I just don't have staff to help me yet. Usually I go to cons to work, so I don't have a lot of free time. Hopefully next year by Comic Con I'll have more people to help me.
+Emergency Awesome I've heard that Marvel is thinking about switching the Iron Fist show with Punisher because they like what the actor is doing with him. Why can't they just do a heroes for hire show with Luke Cage and Iron Fist? They could replace the Luke Cage show with that and still have a Punisher show! Plus, a heroes for hire show could introduce a lot more street level heroes to the Netflix universe.
+brickblasters That's false. Marvel's Joe Quesada confirmed that they are still working on the Iron Fist show.
You know, you can cut killgrave tongue, and his power becomes useless.
+Ahmed Alhussainy I thought Jessica was going to do that too, but they never talk about it after that, I mean Kilgrave won't really die losing a tongue.
EeveeParty97 the thing is, I dont think killgrave died, dont forget he was injected with stem cells.
Ahmed Alhussainy Wonder if the fetus lived though, they said they stored it or something.
EeveeParty97 it didn't they used it to strengthen Killgrave power
Ahmed Alhussainy .....didn't notice that while watching the series.
For the review on ep 13, I think probably the biggest question and discussion now is whether Kilgrave should have died, and indeed, whether he is actually dead. Should he come back or not? Should he pull a Moriarty and disappear for a while before coming back? I think he's up there with Loki, in terms of best Marvel villains on screen so far. I like your analogy about Jessica and Kilgrave, comparing them to the Joker and Harley Quinn. Let's face it, the two of them together is what makes this show great and unique, and the biggest reason why we're watching it.
Hi Charlie - I may be in the minority, but overall I thought the series was just OK. The parts were better then the sum as far as Krysten Ritter, Mike Colter and of course David Tennant being great but the storytelling/writing, I thought, was really sloppy. And the whole Will Simpson and Hoggarth arcs were awful. Too long to explain or go into all of my gripes but hopefully season 2 will be better and more focused.
+Howard Shapiro _The parts were better then the sum_
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Well said.
The series felt like a collection of loosely connected plot ideas.
Both characters are based off from the comics, well Hogarth can be more in Iron Fist
loved all the comic book reference, it just makes me appreciate how far the genre has come since I was a kid.
I like that there were so many female characters in the series.
+CV Jackson Beyond the superhero stuff it's also a series about the diagesis of a female superhero. So naturally more focus on the female characters would be a big thing.
+Emergency Awesome Seems they upped the xx factor with the lawyer character, and Claire is a hero in her own right.
definitely was, really enjoyed the JJ and patsy dynamic
+Andrew Yates Me too.
my god you grew fast! almost at 1 million subs been here since 300k!
What a bloody waste of an amazing actor and villan, seriously that was a dumb mistake.
+Set Arrxows marvel doesnt make mistakes everything is planned out.
Kilgrave is one of those villains that's too cool to kill but at the same time he's too dangerous to keep alive
it was the only way to end killgrave there was no other way they would have beat him in the comics he goes to supermax the only way he escapes is because of carnage and we don't have carnage so if we went to supermax were not seeing him again anyways
+Set Arrxows yeah annoys me too. I really enjoy a good villain, e.g. i hate batman but i love the dark knight trilogy purely because of the villains, ra's al ghul, joker and bane, all awesome and great to watch. Thats also the main reason i enjoy daredevil and jessica jones, dont get me wrong they are both amazingly executed and very well acted, but the dark tone is something i dont like too much of and i prefer a bit more humour, so overall i enjoy the marvel movies more, buttt i absolutely adore the villains in DD and JJ. Also they actually scare me and i can feel real stakes as opposed to the marvel films. Anyway, i would absolutely love them to bring kilgrave back. I dont care what bs excuse they use to bring him back, just do it and give him plenty of screen time all season long. I love to see his character develop and be so calm one minute and then a total psycho the next, its so awesome to watch.
+Emergency Awesome Did you see the Spiderman reference/easter egg in episode 12 (24:49)?
Jesus can people stop calling him "Killgrave"? It's Kilgrave.
But in the internet wikipedia said Killgrave?
+Matthijs Bollen Not in the comics. Just a strange change the show made. Like how he isn't purple, which totally sucks.
Lars Erik Volden His veins turned purple in the last episode twice
+Zein Alfurati Well do you realise how stupid he would look if he was purple all the time -.- this isn't the comics this is the TV adaptation and i think they did a really good job!
Ragnas Why would he look stupid if he was purple? Gamora was green and she looked fine. I don't get why purple skin would make him stupid. Even if we stick only with the Netflix shows we have a blind guy who is also a ninja, implications of the magical, an old Asian lay from off-world, a barkeep with unbreakable skin and a man who can control minds. You're telling me that in a world that has all of that, giving a guy purple skin would be stupid? That makes no sense. We're already so far removed from reality that they might as well go all the way.
I'm surprised so many people didn't like the Jeri Hogarth subplot with her wife. I thought it was fascinating to see a same sex relationship deteriorating like that. I've never seen anything like it. Plus, Jeri trying to get involved with Kilgrave to help her get the divorce showed how morally messed up she is. AND it royally backfired on her. I loved her storyline.
I liked it, too. Plus, I am sure Hogarth will be back in future series.
I'm early, better make a joke......
Women's rights.
Nah, I'm kidding.
SplendidTurd Yea, but I don't want to butt hurt anybody.
I loved the moment in ep 13 when Killgrave told Jessica and everyone on the harbor to stop, and his face turned purple from the blood rushing to his head.
Yes, finally! I've been waiting for this video. Thanks Charlie!
I was actually super suprised that they used Nuke. He's really underrated and made for a great character. Hope to see more of him and maybe this will open the gates to other awesome villains like Taskmaster.
My favorite part of this block was when Jessica was living in her childhood house with Kilgrave, and I like very much where Jessica tryes to use Kilgrave powers for good
And the Obi-Wan Kenobi reference. lol You get the impression Kilgrave was quite influenced by popular culture..
Love the show - I'd have to say the way they linked Jessica & Daredevil through Jessica's conversations with the nurse while they are tending to Luke's injuries. The nurse talked about him, but kept it vague enough that only the audience knew who she was talking about.
Loved the explanation of it being a virus, explains why Jessica became immune to it, being all superhumany. I don't blame Kilgrave's parents though, they were trying to save them, and where at the beck and whim of a child. Simpson was kind of just dialed in, I could have done with or without him. Fight scene with Jessica and Luke was awesome! Finally cool to see them go all out, loved how she beat him too, how do you beat a man with unbreakable skin...hurting bombs, blunt force trauma. Loved to see Patsy kick some ass.
I already watched this till the end but I'm loving catching all the things I miss while rematching it with my hubby!
I was really glad that in episodes 9-13 they brought back the purple lighting from episode 1-2 that just disappeared, adds greatly to the atmosphere. I also feel like the more violence in the back half was a course correction, it was very soft in the first half compared to Daredevil and its infamous crushing a head with a car door till it popped.
I knew it was gonna be good but didn't expect something with such rich character development. Loved Jessica Jones a.k.a Door Destroyer
+keith1984rich this is marvel with 7 year track record of doing that and you didnt expect? lol
I was waiting for this
Luke blowing up his bar.. then walking out on fire is one of the best part
I must admit I liked the part when Jessica and Luke are fighting where Jessica rips off the door from the cop car. It reminded me of the first Captain America movie with the taxi door.
Where's the episode 13 and full season review vid!?
Is it still on the way?
I love watching your videos, thanks!
I think the IGH thing is just a good way to bring the Defenders together, since they already have ties to two of them (obviously Cage's "experiment" was involved or the flash drive wouldn't have been meant for him), and I'm sure Danny will have some sort of tie-in, even if it's not his origin story. Throw in Matt and Foggy investigating them and you have a common enemy to form a group like the Defenders...
There is the scene where he buys Jessica's old house with cash. For some reason Killgrave goes to great lengths to NOT use his powers on the guy but he has to chose his words carefully in order not to give an order.
He also said his amped up powers lasted 24 hours instead of eight. So the guy at the fence just had to stand there for a day, not a week.
Charlie I have a question, are Simpson and dr Kozlov from the comics?
Do you think this doctor knows Madam Gao from daredevil and do you think they together with villains from Iron Fist and Luke Cage shows will form a villain group for the Defenders show.
Thanksgiving from 11am to midnight: Turkey prep and dinner with friends while we watched the entire series from start to finish. Paused/rewound parts we discussed as WTFs and needing back-story and still had breaks for dinner and dessert.
Interesting to note that those who treated this as a non-superhero detective story liked it as much as we nerds did. High hopes for a Season 2 but we're gonna miss David Tennant who was simply riveting throughout without being pompous or slapstick-ish.
Jessica Jones to the lawyer: "Because you are who you are - a sack of dark oozing shit in an expensive suit."
How do you think they will work out the characters crossing between the Luke Cage series and Jessica Jones? Since these shows tend to drop all at once, they can't really do a simultaneous one episode of each timeline like Flash and Arrow, but there's really no way to make it so that one show is independent of the other with the two most important characters being shared.
Finally!!! Thank you for the JJ review!!! I think IGH is a off shoot of Hydra for sure. keep it coming charlie =)
+RoyalPrinceNation hydra is in shambles still trying to rebuild i dont think they have any off shoots
+Dan Johnson Perhaps but you never know with Hydra. I feel like Hydra has had a hand in many organizations. I cant wait till season 2 to see how it plays out!
***** from what we know there is nothing to suggest that it would be. and i doubt that would be the first thing that netflix does to connect them more solid.
With General Ross being in Captain America, do you think HGI has any connections to him and the blood that was retrieved at the end of incredible Hulk movie? It would seem logical that all that blood and research that Dr. Sterns did would be put to use for secret super soldier experiments like for Luke Cage as well. It would be a cool connection.
A few things that bugged me. "Aliens fall from the sky, but everyone drawing the line at Mind Control." not the exact words.
Then there was the way they showed her powers. Lifting Luke from the bed, should have looked more natural. He looked stiff as a board. It was ok overall. Would check out Season 2.
Definitely also sin bin was my favorite. My question is that they mentioned Angela Del Toro (White Tiger) in the series, would you like to see her come onto Jessica Jones season 2 should it be picked up (most likely will).
Awesome show, but i was actually really sad to see David Tennant go. First time I ever wanted a villain to survive! He played it perfectly and although I loved him as The Doctor he totally disappeared into this role which was awesome. Looking forward to hearing what you thought of the last episode Charlie!
Good stuff, keep it coming
Love the show but I agree in the middle it drags just a little. I think mainly because of 3 things, 1: the storyline with the lawyer and her wife, 2: The nuke dude storyline and his acting, 3: I felt at one point that it was a little redundant how they catch Kilgrave or have him cornered and he escaped multiple times.
That being said the show is really cool and deals in a good way with a lot of topics. I like the ending as well although I was expecting them to either cut his tongue or leave him mute somehow but still alive.
Episode 10 was the most shocking for me.
I was almost left speechless after that final scene at the restaurant. Oh and the 1000 cuts.. my god.
The blender made me so anxious. I thought for sure the hand was going down there.
The dude that had to stare at the street forever only stayed there for 16 hours. That's how long Killgrave's powers lasted in that moment.
I like the part when (In one of the episodes in Jessica's old house ) killgrave says that he choses his words carefully so he doesn't accidentally kill some. To emphasize on that he said " I once told a man to go 'screw himself' .
episode 9 was a favorite of mine, and for the same reasons as well. I was able to feel sympathy for Kilgrave and even liked the idea of him using his powers for good. I almost wish we could've seen more of it, but i ended up appreciating Jessica's decision to take him down.
Since they changed Kilgrave's powers from pheromones to virus, here's a fun thought: Imagine how many people on this planet Kilgrave may have "infected" (judging by what his powers can achieve, I'm pretty sure it's a lot). Now, imagine if this virus still "remains" within each individual, instead of being fought by the immune system, even if it tries hard. In Jessica's case, it did. If the virus survives for a long period, what if this virus transmits airborne / via birth?
Given the number of people and enough time, there's bound to be "some" cases of Horizontal Gene Transfer, where - instead of simply creating immunity from the virus - the body "adopts" the functions of the virus to create more such viruses, and even giving that organic vehicle (that is, "Person") the ability to (in some degree) harness Kilgrave's powers of mind-control.
Would it just be one person, or would it be many?
Favourite episode for me was actually 10 cuz that's the episode that Jessica had to actually face up to things and issues she's been running away or not directly facing them.
I've a theory that IGH would be the overall nemesis for all the Netflix series. I wouldn't be surprised if IGH was the one behind the chemicals that blinded Matt in Daredevil. And that they were the ones that experimented on Luke Cage.
IGH being part of Hydra is plausible but with Spiderman part of the MCU, they could go the route of Oscorp as well. Hell, it'll be damn fun if the Defenders had to go up against someone from Spidey's rogues list like Lizard. But I'll stick with your theory for now of them being in Hydra.
Looking forward to your episode 13 review and what you think of the ending! :)!
Patsy Walker going all hell cat was one of my favorite parts
All I can say about IGH is that I believe they even said in episode 12, "One big bad at a time"
I actually enjoyed Nuke/Simpson. Just like in Daredevil, they laid the foundations for future plots and villains to be dealt with. And bringing in the Night Nurse/Claire was wonderful as well.
I'd like the IGH had something to do with the Super Soldier program (Weapon Plus) and Roxxon, by the way I did like Nuke, I do feel like his fall from grace was rushed but I think it was meant to be a relapse rather than anything else.
Hey Charlie. Completely loved this season and really excited for season 2 but a part of me is worried it won't be as good without David Tennant. Do you think there is any chance we'll see him again?
Oops spoilers 🙈
Why on earth did it take them 12 episodes to realise that using headphones was a good idea
Do you think the show may introduce carol Denver's in Jessica jones season two, when luke cage leaves for his own show, and maybe she can be part of the defenders
I wonder if Jessica jones, daredevil and other Netflix shows will ever come out on dvd cause I don't get netflix
Did I miss the episode 13 video somewhere? I can't seem to find it.
When's the episode 13 video going to post? Also, can we get one more Who video between the penultimate one and the finale?
Questions for your next vid- Not to get too romancey but when/how do you think Luke is going to come back and clarify where he stands? All that stuff about forgiving Jessica was apparently Killgraves control but now that he has been throughly controlled maybe he knows there wasn't anything she could do and actually will forgive her? Also do you think they left the door open for a return of killgraves powers with fetus still out there...i know hogarth said nothing came of it but she isn't a scientist and i think if one of those IGH people got a hold of it they wouldn't want her to know so they could do whatever they wanted with it.
+Summer Bradshaw _All that stuff about forgiving Jessica was apparently Killgraves control _
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That's not clear.
In the car with Kilgrave, Luke said there was something there with him and Jessica. That part is fact.
Nor do we know if Kilgrave scripted Luke words.
Kilgrave easily could have ask Luke how he felt and Luke answered how he really felt and what he would say.
*It really completely unclear.*
I really liked the Simpson character and thw actor who played him. It was good to see his more tactical approach vs Jessica's.
i'm really curious to hear what you thought about ep 13. Because tbh I absolutely loved the last like three eps
Do you think Patsy will suit up as Hellcat in season 2?
When will you be posting the video for episode 13 of Jessica Jones? I know that you are trying to space the videos out but it's been days since you said you would post it?
Thanks - cant wait for next week's finale. I have a sneaky feeling there may be a reveal to Clara's replacement.
Does anyone know when they're going to start filming the Luke Cage series?
Hey Charlie, will The Defenders effect season 2 of the Netflix series like Luke Cage & Iron Fist
Everyone hates how she killed kilgrave but I thought it was so much more real than if it was a crazy fight scene
Wasn't in the comics MGH? but the M stands for mutant but they changed it to inhuman? please answer thank you
Was there a specific reason why Simpson looks like Cap Am's older brother? Lol.
Do you think, when the time gem is introduced into the MCU that they could bring back villains that were killed off? Like Iron Monger. Or other villains?
This is kinda off topic but how many marvel tv shows are there right now? Cause I watch Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Jessica Jones, and Daredevil. Are there anymore?
Nope only those
+Sofia Maimone I would be aware, there's rumor of a possible Agents of Shield spinoff with Bobbi {Mockingjay}
+EeveeParty97 There was also talk about starting a comedy series about a crew of construction workers who clean up after superheroes. Not sure if that is still being planned though.
stalk8r Oh yeah! But honestly the construction worker idea seems like it would work on a Marvel One-Shot, like a short film from the MCU.
I really love how logical they are with this show. Such as the bullet in the head, they really thought it all out so well. Just finished the show and its amazing!
Would Kilgraves power work if he couldn't speak? I understand those effected would still have the virus in them but to do his bidding wouldn't he have to speak to them verbally?
Hey Charlie, did you mean for this video to include episode 13? I got about a third of the way through it and you started talking about things I hadn't seen yet after watching through 12. I went back and watched the last episode of the season and then understood things like the headphones, Hogarth, Kilgrave's father, etc. Just wanted to let you know so as not to spoil anything for your watchers!
When are you posting Jessica Jones' finale video?
For me the series lost a lot of its tension and momentum when Jessica found out that she was immune to Killgrave. Before that there was always this underlined tension about what if Killgrave decided to just command her again. I really wish that they would have saved that reveal for like EP 11 or 12.