On the one hand, I’m sad that Yoko Shimamura didn’t return for Brothership, but on the other hand, Hideki Sakamoto and Takauya Seo did a pretty good job on the soundtrack for Brothership.
@@jclkaytwo Paper Jam still has really good gameplay despite the lack of original characters and mediocre plot (and it's also funny still). It's got some big problems but I definitely wouldn't call it bad
@@pikmin937 the bare minimum requirement for an RPG is a good story, characters, and settings. you're spending 20+ hours in this world, so it shouldn't be the most boring and soulless crap you've ever seen. the gameplay is good but it is literally just the same gameplay as the previous games in the series, so of course it's good.
@jclkaytwo imo Mario and Luigi games are more able to be carried by their gameplay than other RPGs. And the writing is as good as always, even if the plot is bland. I played the game for the first time earlier this year and had a lot of fun with it, it's definitely not as strong of a game as the rest of the series but it's not bad either
I personally think that every Mario and Luigi soundtrack is perfect in their own way. Even though Yoko Shimamura didn't return for Mario And Luigi: BROTHERSHIP for the OST. the team did a great job on it. Give Brothership the credit it should get
Tbh i think "another's requiem" is underrated along side partners in time as a whole. The song perfectly captures the darkness the game has. The melancholy representing the shroob's slow extinction and their desperation to prevent it. But it also represents the brothers' struggle to keep their home.
And yes it's feel like it's from both side , trying to defend their home , their population ... they could live together side by side yet they fight to save their world
Oh yes, my favorite battle theme: *battle* Jokes aside, if they added a real title to BS battle theme I think it would be "Back to Battle!" or something like that
Heh yeah! That theme is probably the most "mario & luigi bossfight" theme you could first think of :] it really gives that goofy but challenging battle vibe
As much as people like to hate on brotherships’ ost I actually really like the high speed battle theme and battle theme as well as boss themes and while the first two final boss phase themes aren’t that great I feel like it picks up in the grandiose department in the third theme
@@phantomxcalibur2474sounds like a you problem. Honestly it just sounds like everyone is looking for an excuse to hate Brothership for whatever reason. I played and enjoyed it, it’s not my favourite (Dream Team, my beloved) but it’s still a damn good game. There is no bad game in the series, even Paper Jam is good though it definitely has its flaws.
@@devranyilmaz9806 I've played it and enjoyed it too, but there's definitely some wantings with the battle OSTs. The main battle theme, while still good, is a pretty short loop of around 50-60 seconds, making it one of the shortest M&L battle themes yet aside from the OG Superstar Saga's theme, there definitely could've been just a little more to it imo. The two boss theme's are amazing, and add some nice variety to fighting bosses, but the fact that neither Glohm Bowser nor Zokket have unique boss theme's is downright criminal, seeing as they're both extremely critical fights to the story. Heck, even the OG Superstar Saga had unique boss themes for Popple and Cackletta, so why not Brothership? Just seems like a big amount of missed potential for that imo.
There’s definitely no bad themes in this series especially the battle themes. My personal favorites are Never Let Up, Popple and Rookie from SS remake, Tough Guy Alert from BIS remake, Grand Finale and Adventures End.
Thank you Yoko Shimamrua, Hideki Sakamoto and Takauya Seo for your 11/10 amazing music work on the 11/10 Mario & Luigi best Mario RPG video game series!!!!!!!!!!!!
This kinda feels unfair, but after nearly an hour of listening to the 3DS tracks under such heavy compression, the Brothership tracks with their full band performances and sound quality felt like a damn flashbang lmao They brought in a full band for the first game where Yoko Shimomura wasn't on the composition team, this feels like a crime - jokes aside though Hideki Sakamato killed it
Best Mario Spinoff and Mario series in general! So happy it's back! They never miss with the battle themes and im excited to see where the series does going forward it's in good hands
I was introduced to this series from paper jam and man I’m glad I played the other games cause they are all so much better and SOUND AMAZING COMPARED TO PAPER JAM ESPECIALLY DREAM TEAM MY PERSONAL FAVORITE
How come no one's talking about Antasma's theme? It just feels so nightmarish and creepy, which definitely fits his characters as well as the tone and mood of this part of the story. Honestly I'd prefer him to be the final boss over Bowser AGAIN
I think the new brother ship songs are highly underrated. People do not give the songs the credit they deserve, especially the 2 boss themes. The first one is really groovy and the second one is both really daunting but also upbeat and lively. I really love the second one
I think the only good battle theme in Brothership is Boss Battle 2. Where Brothership really shines is in it's area themes, which are all around pretty great.
Top 5 songs that deserve to be called “The Grand Finale” - 33:41 - 1:49:07 and also songs that make you dance, sing or feel super energetic - 10:54 (PIT) - 20:35 - 36:50 (DT) - 40:46 - 50:22 - 57:29 (PPJ) - 58:50 - 1:01:46 (one of the best) - 1:14:41 (SSS remake) - 1:17:26 - 1:19:18 - 1:25:00 - 1:32:29 (BIS remake) - 1:38:14 - 2:01:05 (BS) - 2:10:06
Mario fans are so used to having good games that they have to look for a needle in a haystack to be able to say bad things about them, hahaha. My first game in the series was Brothership, and I loved it! I intend to play the others too.
I personally like Another's Requiem. It isn't like many other battle themes, where they are epic or silly. AR dispells fear into the player. The usual silliness of M&L seems to fade away in that moment. Hence, why I enjoy the uniqueness of this theme so much.
Honestly, as good as Brothership was, I feel like it had a few more things that got voided, namely Bowser and Zokket not having their own themes, not even a little twist to make them sound more fitting to their characters (heck, Zokket coulda had some Grodus-esque sfx in his). Also a battle gauntlet for postgame, the (EDIT AFTER GAME'S 3 MONTHS OLD) was fine, but it felt a bit lacking despite the difficulty spike, was thinking they'd give you all the mid and big bosses, let you choose what level you want to face them at, then let you sock it to them (Aka, let me choose to fight a Lv 100 Gobblick).
I'm maybe the only one to say this but the final boss of partner in time is the only one who really make me feel worried for the bros . I meen the boss is really hard when you are a child and it's really scary for a mario and luigi . But now the ost is just perfect for a final boss
Best take, all the mario & luigi games are good and some are better than others ofc but non and I mean non are bad. Also the music is and will always be peak.
1 The Grand Finale (BIS) 2 Never Let Up (DT) 3 Tough Guy Alert (BIS) 4 Okey Dokey (BIS) 5 Another's Requiem (PIT) 6 Try, Try Again/Victory in the Dream World (DT) 7 Battle (Brothership) 8 Attack the Enemy (PIT)
My problem with Brothership's music, and Brothership in-general, is that it falls under the same fault of Nintendo watering down and genericizing all their properties and expecting barebones concepts advertised as wildly innovative to be accepted as such when they're really nothing special. This soundtrack falls under the same qualms as Breath of the Wild and Pikmin 4's soundtracks, they're background music with no real hooks or draws in a game series *known* for that. Notice how none of the Brothership themes have strong, forefront melodies like past games? It's just a bunch of instruments that blend together to sit nicely in the background, not to carry through and affect what's happening and your feelings/gameplay. They captured the right tone of music, but it's a watered down, more basic version of video game music. There's no melodies that mimic lyrics on-top of the rest of the instrumentation, and that's the biggest fault not just in this game but a few others recently. Even Mario Wonder has this problem in comparison to say Mario Bros. Wii. It's still baby steps to get out of what Nintendo has been doing to their game series lately.
I am loving Brothership so far, nearing the end but not there yet. But the boss themes have been.. eh. The battle theme is fine, it's catchy enough, but like some of the bosses have way more intense presentation than the song provides. They're not bad songs by any means, they're just very unfitting to a lot of the situations. Well I'll hope the final boss theme goes hard, it's a requirement of this series.
I love that the Brothership battle themes don’t try to be like Yoko Shimomura, they are their own style, and that’s good. I would rather a new composer do their own style of music than try to copy the previous composer and have it come off poorly.
After finally finishing Brothership and doing almost every side quest, putting a little over 31 hours into my final save file, I just wish the normal battle theme had an extra little something to it. I don't think the Brothership OST is bad, it's certainly no stranger to great themes (both boss battle themes are incredible) but the normal battle theme just doesn't stick with you like BIS, DT, or even SS. It falls into that same category that Paper Jam is in, where it's an alright theme but there's just something missing that's holding it back from greatness. Looking back, maybe it's just the modern Paper Mario music vibe present in both OSTs that doesn't really sell the Mario and Luigi vibe for the battle theme, but even then that's not right because the boss themes are phenomenal in both games...
You know what, I think it might be the fact that there's no distinguishable lead during the build up, only the bit during the chorus, mixed with the fact that the song is simply too short imo. It loops too quickly and doesn't have much of a lead to it so it sounds like you're trying to remember how the rest of the song goes, but all you can remember is the main chorus and the start up.
@@jclkaytwo at no point did I say they were bad themes, but Paper Jam's main battle theme was better than Brothership's. Modern Paper Mario music is good, but it has it's own vibe that's similar, yet entirely separate from what Mario and Luigi music conveys. Again, my big gripe with the Brothership OST is almost entirely with the normal battle theme
Games I've finished: Superstar Saga (GBA) I'll give my thoughts on the game at a later date (below) but for now, I'll just say the series is growing on me. And quickly.
I still have to finish Brothership, currently at Zokket Castle entrance after going over the barrier, so i didnt listen to the last songs on the list. The thing is: SuperStar Saga has fine, quirky osts. It was the firs title, and did a good job as the series introduction. Partner's in Time, they went super hard. And dont let me started on the final boss theme... Shivers down my spine, tears running down my eyes.. Its a beauty. Bowser's Inside Story, my goat. My very first Mario and Luigi title, that made me discover this magical series. The favorite child. Yes i said it. The Grand Finale ost is still one of my favorite final boss osts in all videogames. But stuff like Tough Guy Alert! or the Bowser's muscle stimulation minigames are incredible bangers as well. Dream Team came, and boi this game is a beauty. If it wasnt clear enough, Luigi was the goat already, and they made it clear with this one. Antasma's final battle and Adventure's End are too good. Then there was Paper Jam... And heres come the forgotten child. The game was fine, but it didnt have the same kick that the previous titles had.. Id happily play the previous titles all over again, but this one? Not that much. The osts are good, but not great. SuperStar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story remixes are overall good, it was peak already, its peak again. But they went over beyond with the fight against the Dark Star and Dark Fawful. Brothership is an incredible game, IGN is a bunch of clowns. The ost, however, doesnt hit me as much as the previous titles did. They are fine, dont get me wrong, but they dont stick on me similar as Tough Guy Alert did, for example. I have yet to finish the game tho, so i could have a different opinion afterwards. For now, Brothership stands tall alongside Partners in Time and Dream Team in 2nd place for me.
To summarize some people's thoughts: "Waaaaah! Brothership music different! Not Yoko so therefore baaaaaaaad!" The tracks are just as fire as BIS, DT, SS, PIT, etc. Y'all just need some time to get used to it.
I’d say soundtrack wise I’d rank the games ( not including the side modes, and also I haven’t heard these complete soundtracks, but I’ll make this work): 1. Dream Team (SACRED SOMNOM WOODS, SIZE UP YOUR ENEMY, NEVER LET UP, ADVENTURES END, AND VICTORY IN THE DREAM WORLD!!!). 2. Brothership ( Honestly….I’m not sure why… I really like the main boss theme, battle theme, title screen theme….. and weirdly enough the music in the intro cutscene…) 3. Paper Jam ( the final boss theme is fire!). 4. Bowser’s Inside Story ( I’ve heard In The Final too many times :/ ). 5. Superstar Saga( the battle theme is classic :) ). 6. Partners In Time ( like with Brothership I’m not sure why…… I will say though that I love Bowser theme, and also the 2 final boss themes)
Dream Team was definitely peak of the series. If we be honest, we just rate Bowsers inside Story higher bc of the Dark Bowser boss theme and the nostalgia.
best music in Mario and Luigi brothership is the battle theme imo In the beginning i didn’t really like it, but now for me it’s actually a banger (IMO tho)
I never knew why Dream team used to be an underrated game because for me i always found the game very well done on how amazingly the art work has went to it but i understood aout the gameplay that it was looking Pixelated and i know that this was one of the longest mario and luigi games in the past now brothership has sirpassed it i always thought the souttrack was amazing in this game and yes it still is my most favorite ones are the battle themes ofc i liked the overworld and dreamworld battle themes made me i want to lsiten to these in my mind and somewhere else :p i never thought how the boss battle themes were but i liked the Antasma theme tho it felt underrated i liked the finall boss theme tho :3 *i dont really know why this game is underrated and even in the past.
If aquire actually was good with m&l bs's theme names. Battle - Beating Bonds! Boss Battle 1 - You Snooze, U Cruise! Boss Battle 2 - Extend-o-SLAM!! High Speed Battle - Record Boostin Final Boss 1 - Seeds of Solitude Final Boss 2 - Solitary Storm
Yea brothership is nowhere near yoko shimamura but it still has hype, soul, speed, energy, recognizability. All just less than yoko... i mean hell the final boss themes are so so much weaker and more "corporate" than the tunes from ye olden days
People really dislike the Brothership music that much? I think its really freaking good, I love the Brothership music. I dont understand whats wrong with it imo, Im coping so hard and calling it a nostalgia thing lol-
Honestly, in my case it's not that I hate it's music, in all honesty. It just doesn't feel like combat music for a Mario & Luigi game, it's not...I dunno, frantic enough? Like compare it to the battle themes from the other games, it doesn't feel lively enough, if that makes sense. I think it's really good combat music still, just not for the game they put it in, for me.
Coincidentally, I did also find that if you up the playback speed on the brothership combat music to 1.1 or 1.2 speed, it actually gains some of the energy it feels to me like it was lacking before. It's not a complete fix, but it takes it in the right direction, for me atleast.
Nobody gassing up Crisis of the Red and Green.... I see. Well, here's my hot take: the only Bowser's Inside Story track that surpasses Partners In Time's battle OST is Grand Finale. The whole OST is a different story, but I never did like BIS's battle themes much.
There's no denying they're all banger themes, but the original Superstar Saga will never be topped imo, there's something special about the compressed audio samples that just can't be replicated with modern remixes. Perhaps it's nostalgia, but the second I hear that crunchy "Let's-a go! Okie dokie!" and Come On! kicks in, I'm jamming Brothership doesn't feel really Mario and Luigi to me, maybe bc they went full big band and that feels more Paper Mario to me. Maybe it'll grow on me more later on, like how Partners in Time's main battle theme did.
people give paper jam to much flak, sure the story was bad but the way they did character interactions was great and interesting especially with all the special battle mechanics. The Bowser Jr's felt less like a fight and more like them and the bros playing games together. Also Big Bang! and Final Battle are some of the BEST sound tracks.
@@FoolishFal I think it's just because they aren't as good, not because they're orchestral. Orchestra can absolutely sound amazing, even in the context of a Mario RPG, it's just the songs themselves aren't great. I don't know how else to say it and I'm sorry that it's so vague but I'm sure there are other people who know what I mean and can agree. It's just not on the same level.
Brothership's Battle tracks just... sound so devoid of charm and personality unlike the previous games. Big Bang and Never Let Up are great examples of what it should've been, they're full of emotion and everything. So far the battle track I like the most in Brothership is the default one, lol.
On the one hand, I’m sad that Yoko Shimamura didn’t return for Brothership, but on the other hand, Hideki Sakamoto and Takauya Seo did a pretty good job on the soundtrack for Brothership.
I agree, but I still want Yoko back for any sequels they might do. She really does have that charm to her OST lol
I disagree. The soundtrack in brothership is painfully mediocre. The battle and boss themes are so boring I can't get invested in them very well.
@@draccqueen1770I agree with you
@@draccqueen1770the boss theme is pretty good but it doesn’t beat the superstar saga boss themes
@@draccqueen1770 Reclusas theme sounds like it belongs to ORAS or something and not in Mario and Luigi tbh
50:22 Antasma's fights theme is underrated. Dream Team is underrated.
The game? Yes
The soundtrack? Almost every mario&Luigi fan I know has the DT soundtrack as the best one in the series
@@hectorin7337 Maybe the soundtrack is known by fans, but not the game as i think xd
@@NitoIsHappy dream team is my favorite and I also think is a bit underrated
Dream Team is my favorite Mario Game period.
@@hectorin7337 to be honest i think no one really talks about paper jam
We don't care which mario and luigi is bad, We can all say that the soundtrack was incredible and made us nostalgic
Honestly none of the Mario and Luigi games are bad
@@pikmin937paper jam:
@@jclkaytwo Paper Jam still has really good gameplay despite the lack of original characters and mediocre plot (and it's also funny still). It's got some big problems but I definitely wouldn't call it bad
@@pikmin937 the bare minimum requirement for an RPG is a good story, characters, and settings. you're spending 20+ hours in this world, so it shouldn't be the most boring and soulless crap you've ever seen.
the gameplay is good but it is literally just the same gameplay as the previous games in the series, so of course it's good.
@jclkaytwo imo Mario and Luigi games are more able to be carried by their gameplay than other RPGs. And the writing is as good as always, even if the plot is bland. I played the game for the first time earlier this year and had a lot of fun with it, it's definitely not as strong of a game as the rest of the series but it's not bad either
I personally think that every Mario and Luigi soundtrack is perfect in their own way.
Even though Yoko Shimamura didn't return for Mario And Luigi: BROTHERSHIP for the OST. the team did a great job on it. Give Brothership the credit it should get
Dream Team is lowkey the peak of the saga you can’t say no to me.
Dream Team was THE Summer 2013 game for me
Bis was better overall, and then it would be super star Saga then dream team. If it's the Bis remake, then dream team is 100% better
i seriously don't get why that was the game that got dunked on when paper jam exists.
Yes.
@@jaco8822wdym "dunked on"? paper jam is widely regarded as the worst game in the series
Tbh i think "another's requiem" is underrated along side partners in time as a whole. The song perfectly captures the darkness the game has. The melancholy representing the shroob's slow extinction and their desperation to prevent it. But it also represents the brothers' struggle to keep their home.
It's like , the shadow get bigger and bigger , it's powerful, but not enough , yet it cause struggle
It's a grand battle
And yes it's feel like it's from both side , trying to defend their home , their population ... they could live together side by side yet they fight to save their world
A mi me gustó suena legendario
@@oofey27-243 yeah its really a good one
zokket deserved his own boss battle theme man he was supposed to be the main villain give him some respect
the extension corps also deserved their own boss theme but not as much as zokket
So did Bowser. My man got two boss fights and neither one had a unique theme. :(
Reminded me of fawful main villan yet didn't even get his battle theme
@@BowserEditzyeah lol
Oh yes, my favorite battle theme: *battle*
Jokes aside, if they added a real title to BS battle theme I think it would be "Back to Battle!" or something like that
It’s pirate themed. So probably boarding action? Also please stop abbreviating brothership xD
@@Mentelgen-1337 All men on deck
Arrnother One!!!
@@Mentelgen-1337 not really outright pirate themed. just ship themed
@@FoolishFal All brothers on deck
40:46 My personal favourite song in the entire Mario and Luigi series
Heh yeah!
That theme is probably the most "mario & luigi bossfight" theme you could first think of :] it really gives that goofy but challenging battle vibe
Two straight hours of nothing but bangers! 🤩
you're god daim right
The new songs suck in my opinion..
@@lekoopa3219Bruh
two hours, one minute, and five seconds of nothing but bangers. after that point, however...
It's more peak!!!@@jclkaytwo
My favorite OSTs from these series have to be Bowser's Inside Story and Dream Team's. I love the amount of personality and charm they have!!
As much as people like to hate on brotherships’ ost I actually really like the high speed battle theme and battle theme as well as boss themes and while the first two final boss phase themes aren’t that great I feel like it picks up in the grandiose department in the third theme
It feels like the first two were made with that intention, to show that you're REALLY ticking Reclusa off.
Honestly I like botherships battle theme but unlike the other themes it doesn’t have a part in the music that make me want to stay in battle
@@phantomxcalibur2474sounds like a you problem.
Honestly it just sounds like everyone is looking for an excuse to hate Brothership for whatever reason.
I played and enjoyed it, it’s not my favourite (Dream Team, my beloved) but it’s still a damn good game.
There is no bad game in the series, even Paper Jam is good though it definitely has its flaws.
@@devranyilmaz9806 I've played it and enjoyed it too, but there's definitely some wantings with the battle OSTs. The main battle theme, while still good, is a pretty short loop of around 50-60 seconds, making it one of the shortest M&L battle themes yet aside from the OG Superstar Saga's theme, there definitely could've been just a little more to it imo. The two boss theme's are amazing, and add some nice variety to fighting bosses, but the fact that neither Glohm Bowser nor Zokket have unique boss theme's is downright criminal, seeing as they're both extremely critical fights to the story. Heck, even the OG Superstar Saga had unique boss themes for Popple and Cackletta, so why not Brothership? Just seems like a big amount of missed potential for that imo.
@@puffy3176 In fairness to the composer, it was their first M&L, so they're just getting used to how they make music... hopefully.
There’s definitely no bad themes in this series especially the battle themes. My personal favorites are Never Let Up, Popple and Rookie from SS remake, Tough Guy Alert from BIS remake, Grand Finale and Adventures End.
suprised you didnt put try try again
@memee-j8t I didn’t think about it at the time. It’s pretty good though
the 3DS version of tough guy alert? I prefer the original version by mile
quit being a hater
@@WooperK no one's hating here lol
20:36 "Antother's Requiem" is in my top 5 final battle songs, just a máster piece 🗿🍷
And another of my favoritos is "the grand finale" 33:52
Thank you Yoko Shimamrua, Hideki Sakamoto and Takauya Seo for your 11/10 amazing music work on the 11/10 Mario & Luigi best Mario RPG video game series!!!!!!!!!!!!
This kinda feels unfair, but after nearly an hour of listening to the 3DS tracks under such heavy compression, the Brothership tracks with their full band performances and sound quality felt like a damn flashbang lmao
They brought in a full band for the first game where Yoko Shimomura wasn't on the composition team, this feels like a crime - jokes aside though Hideki Sakamato killed it
Best Mario Spinoff and Mario series in general! So happy it's back! They never miss with the battle themes and im excited to see where the series does going forward it's in good hands
I was introduced to this series from paper jam and man I’m glad I played the other games cause they are all so much better and SOUND AMAZING COMPARED TO PAPER JAM ESPECIALLY DREAM TEAM MY PERSONAL FAVORITE
But the Finale Battle theme is a banger; it reminds me always of the Master Core theme from Smash Bros Wii U.
@@Mattbuddy0947I totally agree that Paper Jam's final battle theme with the giant ass paper bowser mecha goes hard as fuck
When the worst game in a franchise is still a decent game worth playing you know you have an amazing franchise.
@ fr I’m glad I wanted to play the rest cause they are all so amazing and so much better
Dream team is amazing
🗣️Best Normal Battle theme: Show Time
🗣️Best Boss Battle Theme: Never Let Up
🗣️ Best Final Boss Battle Theme: Adventure's end
damn showtimes my least favourite but more power to ya my friend😆
Final Antasma Battle theme is goated. Best theme ever
For me, all the artist that work in the nusic of all the games are true masters of put the ambients, everyone nailed it perfectly
this one deserves more likes
How come no one's talking about Antasma's theme? It just feels so nightmarish and creepy, which definitely fits his characters as well as the tone and mood of this part of the story. Honestly I'd prefer him to be the final boss over Bowser AGAIN
Antasma was such an awesome villain.
It's the best boss theme of All Mario and Luigi.
WE ARE SO BACK EVERYONE
(Hot take)brotherships final boss music is great(seriously why does everyone hate it so much?)
I think the new brother ship songs are highly underrated. People do not give the songs the credit they deserve, especially the 2 boss themes. The first one is really groovy and the second one is both really daunting but also upbeat and lively. I really love the second one
I think the only good battle theme in Brothership is Boss Battle 2. Where Brothership really shines is in it's area themes, which are all around pretty great.
I just wish the music was louder during gameplay. I can barely hear it over the sound effects!
It’s just missing the charm that the other have
@@jds8438 It has the charm but maybe not the oomph
Thank you !
Hot take: Partners In Time is SO UNDERRATED. It might be my favorite in the entire series and I never see like any love for it 😭
Try, try again was literally fire
I love tough Guy alert And never let up
Y'all ever tried playing a sport while listening to these? It's amazing
You my friend are a god send
I liked the sync with the beat by the stomp stomp in victory in the dream world..even if it was only for one note
2:10:27 ok but the drums here go CRAZY hard
The drums really want to guide your heartbeat and those Trumpets and Air Instrument really want to drill in your blood pressure.
44:13 that spiny dodge is insane
Top 5 songs that deserve to be called “The Grand Finale”
- 33:41
- 1:49:07
and also songs that make you dance, sing or feel super energetic
- 10:54 (PIT)
- 20:35
- 36:50 (DT)
- 40:46
- 50:22
- 57:29 (PPJ)
- 58:50
- 1:01:46 (one of the best)
- 1:14:41 (SSS remake)
- 1:17:26
- 1:19:18
- 1:25:00
- 1:32:29 (BIS remake)
- 1:38:14
- 2:01:05 (BS)
- 2:10:06
Mario fans are so used to having good games that they have to look for a needle in a haystack to be able to say bad things about them, hahaha. My first game in the series was Brothership, and I loved it! I intend to play the others too.
HE IS THE MESSIAH
Brothership's ost, including the final boss themes, are all amazing. Sick of the Yoko fanboys trashing it.
I personally like Another's Requiem. It isn't like many other battle themes, where they are epic or silly. AR dispells fear into the player. The usual silliness of M&L seems to fade away in that moment. Hence, why I enjoy the uniqueness of this theme so much.
The final antasma one is so fire, honestly the best in my opinion!
Honestly, as good as Brothership was, I feel like it had a few more things that got voided, namely Bowser and Zokket not having their own themes, not even a little twist to make them sound more fitting to their characters (heck, Zokket coulda had some Grodus-esque sfx in his).
Also a battle gauntlet for postgame, the (EDIT AFTER GAME'S 3 MONTHS OLD) was fine, but it felt a bit lacking despite the difficulty spike, was thinking they'd give you all the mid and big bosses, let you choose what level you want to face them at, then let you sock it to them (Aka, let me choose to fight a Lv 100 Gobblick).
I'm maybe the only one to say this but the final boss of partner in time is the only one who really make me feel worried for the bros . I meen the boss is really hard when you are a child and it's really scary for a mario and luigi . But now the ost is just perfect for a final boss
Best take, all the mario & luigi games are good and some are better than others ofc but non and I mean non are bad.
Also the music is and will always be peak.
I don’t see anybody give credit the Final Antasma fight. It’s a great track.
I love how most of these sound really Mario like but then for the final boss themes Shimomura locks tf in and lets the Kingdom Hearts style out
1 The Grand Finale (BIS)
2 Never Let Up (DT)
3 Tough Guy Alert (BIS)
4 Okey Dokey (BIS)
5 Another's Requiem (PIT)
6 Try, Try Again/Victory in the Dream World (DT)
7 Battle (Brothership)
8 Attack the Enemy (PIT)
My problem with Brothership's music, and Brothership in-general, is that it falls under the same fault of Nintendo watering down and genericizing all their properties and expecting barebones concepts advertised as wildly innovative to be accepted as such when they're really nothing special.
This soundtrack falls under the same qualms as Breath of the Wild and Pikmin 4's soundtracks, they're background music with no real hooks or draws in a game series *known* for that. Notice how none of the Brothership themes have strong, forefront melodies like past games? It's just a bunch of instruments that blend together to sit nicely in the background, not to carry through and affect what's happening and your feelings/gameplay. They captured the right tone of music, but it's a watered down, more basic version of video game music. There's no melodies that mimic lyrics on-top of the rest of the instrumentation, and that's the biggest fault not just in this game but a few others recently. Even Mario Wonder has this problem in comparison to say Mario Bros. Wii. It's still baby steps to get out of what Nintendo has been doing to their game series lately.
Parters in time and Bowawe's inside story are one of my favorite games in whole life.
Can we ignore the music one sec and note that the people playing are absolutely throwing in a lot of those clips ?
all of the memories I watched all the mario and luigi games is so good.
40:46 peak
I am loving Brothership so far, nearing the end but not there yet. But the boss themes have been.. eh. The battle theme is fine, it's catchy enough, but like some of the bosses have way more intense presentation than the song provides. They're not bad songs by any means, they're just very unfitting to a lot of the situations.
Well I'll hope the final boss theme goes hard, it's a requirement of this series.
I am also nearing the end. I love long games, so I’m still enjoying it, but the game just keeps teasing us with the final boss! Mario is edging us!
I dont get the hate for brothership’s ost, its honestly pretty good and the battle themes get me hyped and pumped
Bowser battle from PiT is the most underrated one
Decisive battle DX is SOO BANGER🗣🗣🔥🔥 (1:22:49)
brothership’s ost is awesome, why does everyone hate it
Idk
Hot take: never let up is better than grand finale
Not a hot take, BiS fans just speak louder than everyone else
(Btw adventure’s end is the coolest final boss theme of the series🗣️)
@tomou_ also agree
Dream team is better than BiS (someone had to say it)
@@Geobot3000 i love dream team and BiS equally
Cold take to me, lol! It’s one of the best battle themes in Mario as a whole to me!
Man i love you NEW PLAYLIST FOR MY SPEEDRUNS 🤩❤️ Thx
I love that the Brothership battle themes don’t try to be like Yoko Shimomura, they are their own style, and that’s good. I would rather a new composer do their own style of music than try to copy the previous composer and have it come off poorly.
The OG come on! Still amazing the remake last that touch of the original
After finally finishing Brothership and doing almost every side quest, putting a little over 31 hours into my final save file, I just wish the normal battle theme had an extra little something to it. I don't think the Brothership OST is bad, it's certainly no stranger to great themes (both boss battle themes are incredible) but the normal battle theme just doesn't stick with you like BIS, DT, or even SS. It falls into that same category that Paper Jam is in, where it's an alright theme but there's just something missing that's holding it back from greatness.
Looking back, maybe it's just the modern Paper Mario music vibe present in both OSTs that doesn't really sell the Mario and Luigi vibe for the battle theme, but even then that's not right because the boss themes are phenomenal in both games...
You know what, I think it might be the fact that there's no distinguishable lead during the build up, only the bit during the chorus, mixed with the fact that the song is simply too short imo. It loops too quickly and doesn't have much of a lead to it so it sounds like you're trying to remember how the rest of the song goes, but all you can remember is the main chorus and the start up.
hey, give paper jam's battle theme some more credit. same with modern paper mario music.
@@jclkaytwo at no point did I say they were bad themes, but Paper Jam's main battle theme was better than Brothership's. Modern Paper Mario music is good, but it has it's own vibe that's similar, yet entirely separate from what Mario and Luigi music conveys.
Again, my big gripe with the Brothership OST is almost entirely with the normal battle theme
51:42 that random motif to pokemon battle revolution
Games I've finished:
Superstar Saga (GBA)
I'll give my thoughts on the game at a later date (below) but for now, I'll just say the series is growing on me. And quickly.
All are straight Bangers! Im starting to warm up to Brothership, hyped game series return!!
Mario and luigi superstar saga is literally the best one
I still have to finish Brothership, currently at Zokket Castle entrance after going over the barrier, so i didnt listen to the last songs on the list.
The thing is:
SuperStar Saga has fine, quirky osts. It was the firs title, and did a good job as the series introduction.
Partner's in Time, they went super hard. And dont let me started on the final boss theme... Shivers down my spine, tears running down my eyes.. Its a beauty.
Bowser's Inside Story, my goat. My very first Mario and Luigi title, that made me discover this magical series. The favorite child. Yes i said it. The Grand Finale ost is still one of my favorite final boss osts in all videogames. But stuff like Tough Guy Alert! or the Bowser's muscle stimulation minigames are incredible bangers as well. Dream Team came, and boi this game is a beauty. If it wasnt clear enough, Luigi was the goat already, and they made it clear with this one. Antasma's final battle and Adventure's End are too good. Then there was Paper Jam... And heres come the forgotten child. The game was fine, but it didnt have the same kick that the previous titles had.. Id happily play the previous titles all over again, but this one? Not that much. The osts are good, but not great.
SuperStar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story remixes are overall good, it was peak already, its peak again. But they went over beyond with the fight against the Dark Star and Dark Fawful.
Brothership is an incredible game, IGN is a bunch of clowns. The ost, however, doesnt hit me as much as the previous titles did. They are fine, dont get me wrong, but they dont stick on me similar as Tough Guy Alert did, for example. I have yet to finish the game tho, so i could have a different opinion afterwards.
For now, Brothership stands tall alongside Partners in Time and Dream Team in 2nd place for me.
Size up your ennemy from dream time is my fav, juts so much power
Sss and pit got that max nostalgia
To summarize some people's thoughts:
"Waaaaah! Brothership music different! Not Yoko so therefore baaaaaaaad!"
The tracks are just as fire as BIS, DT, SS, PIT, etc. Y'all just need some time to get used to it.
I like the brothership Boss Battle theme 2
one is normal bosses the other is great lighthouse bosses
I’d say soundtrack wise I’d rank the games ( not including the side modes, and also I haven’t heard these complete soundtracks, but I’ll make this work): 1. Dream Team (SACRED SOMNOM WOODS, SIZE UP YOUR ENEMY, NEVER LET UP, ADVENTURES END, AND VICTORY IN THE DREAM WORLD!!!). 2. Brothership ( Honestly….I’m not sure why… I really like the main boss theme, battle theme, title screen theme….. and weirdly enough the music in the intro cutscene…) 3. Paper Jam ( the final boss theme is fire!). 4. Bowser’s Inside Story ( I’ve heard In The Final too many times :/ ). 5. Superstar Saga( the battle theme is classic :) ). 6. Partners In Time ( like with Brothership I’m not sure why…… I will say though that I love Bowser theme, and also the 2 final boss themes)
Unpopular opinion: Final boos theme from Partners in time is best than the theme of final boss of Bowser inside history
We are getting excellent attacks wit this one !
Dream Team was definitely peak of the series.
If we be honest, we just rate Bowsers inside Story higher bc of the Dark Bowser boss theme and the nostalgia.
this guy gets it
Ha ha ha *no*
Gotta respectfully (and heavily) disagree on that on, chief
Let’s be honest all of the Mario and Luigi songs are banger’s especially Antasma Theme in Dream team
best music in Mario and Luigi brothership is the battle theme imo
In the beginning i didn’t really like it, but now for me it’s actually a banger
(IMO tho)
Brothership final boss theme is just so... 🫤
It just doesn't hit the same way as the others
yessir. so corporate
Compared with other final bosses, it is obviously inferior.
Within context, the theme fits very well in my opinion but yeah definitely not as great as previous games
Why does everyone hate it so much,its decent at best
Ngl bowsers inside story fits the brothers to well
"The grand finale" is the best final boss theme in any mario and luigi game and there is nothing you can do to change my mind >:)
Say what you want about Paper Jam, that final boss theme is still my favorite in the series (Sorry Inside Story, your's is still amazing)
My favorite song of all time is actually try, try again which I will die on
Dream team player did NOT have a lot of bros moves
Whenever I hear the battle theme from Superstar Saga, I always think of Beverly Hills Cop.
i like come on again the most
starts with peak
I never knew why Dream team used to be an underrated game because for me i always found the game very well done on how amazingly the art work has went to it but i understood aout the gameplay that it was looking Pixelated and i know that this was one of the longest mario and luigi games in the past now brothership has sirpassed it i always thought the souttrack was amazing in this game and yes it still is my most favorite ones are the battle themes ofc i liked the overworld and dreamworld battle themes made me i want to lsiten to these in my mind and somewhere else :p i never thought how the boss battle themes were but i liked the Antasma theme tho it felt underrated i liked the finall boss theme tho :3 *i dont really know why this game is underrated and even in the past.
If aquire actually was good with m&l bs's theme names.
Battle - Beating Bonds!
Boss Battle 1 - You Snooze, U Cruise!
Boss Battle 2 - Extend-o-SLAM!!
High Speed Battle - Record Boostin
Final Boss 1 - Seeds of Solitude
Final Boss 2 - Solitary Storm
Nothing can beat Victory in the dream world.
Dream Team is my favorite game in the series, in spite of the tutorials
Yea brothership is nowhere near yoko shimamura but it still has hype, soul, speed, energy, recognizability. All just less than yoko... i mean hell the final boss themes are so so much weaker and more "corporate" than the tunes from ye olden days
Really upset Bowser or Zokket didn’t get their own boss theme song in Brothership. It was a little disappointing.
57:53 Paper Mario + SuperStar Saga
BIS's soundtrack reminds so much of Kingdom Hearts.
People really dislike the Brothership music that much? I think its really freaking good, I love the Brothership music. I dont understand whats wrong with it imo, Im coping so hard and calling it a nostalgia thing lol-
Honestly, in my case it's not that I hate it's music, in all honesty. It just doesn't feel like combat music for a Mario & Luigi game, it's not...I dunno, frantic enough? Like compare it to the battle themes from the other games, it doesn't feel lively enough, if that makes sense. I think it's really good combat music still, just not for the game they put it in, for me.
I think the musics in brothership aren't memorable enough
Coincidentally, I did also find that if you up the playback speed on the brothership combat music to 1.1 or 1.2 speed, it actually gains some of the energy it feels to me like it was lacking before. It's not a complete fix, but it takes it in the right direction, for me atleast.
Nobody gassing up Crisis of the Red and Green.... I see.
Well, here's my hot take: the only Bowser's Inside Story track that surpasses Partners In Time's battle OST is Grand Finale. The whole OST is a different story, but I never did like BIS's battle themes much.
Dream team OST 🔛🔝
There's no denying they're all banger themes, but the original Superstar Saga will never be topped imo, there's something special about the compressed audio samples that just can't be replicated with modern remixes. Perhaps it's nostalgia, but the second I hear that crunchy "Let's-a go! Okie dokie!" and Come On! kicks in, I'm jamming
Brothership doesn't feel really Mario and Luigi to me, maybe bc they went full big band and that feels more Paper Mario to me. Maybe it'll grow on me more later on, like how Partners in Time's main battle theme did.
people give paper jam to much flak, sure the story was bad but the way they did character interactions was great and interesting especially with all the special battle mechanics. The Bowser Jr's felt less like a fight and more like them and the bros playing games together. Also Big Bang! and Final Battle are some of the BEST sound tracks.
En resúmen, los primeros Ost, es decir, los de pelea común, son los mejores y no pienso discutirlo 🗣🗣
My only big complaint about Brothership is that the music just isn't up to par compared to the other games
its because the new games felt electronic and brothership doesnt have that
@@FoolishFal I think it's just because they aren't as good, not because they're orchestral. Orchestra can absolutely sound amazing, even in the context of a Mario RPG, it's just the songs themselves aren't great. I don't know how else to say it and I'm sorry that it's so vague but I'm sure there are other people who know what I mean and can agree. It's just not on the same level.
Brothership's Battle tracks just... sound so devoid of charm and personality unlike the previous games. Big Bang and Never Let Up are great examples of what it should've been, they're full of emotion and everything. So far the battle track I like the most in Brothership is the default one, lol.
@@FoolishFalKind of ironic, isn’t it?
@@DreamGoatWannabeThe songs are just missing that punchy melody that give the other soundtracks that hummable quality.