Why INDIAN Brands are opposing Japanese "Only Hybrid" Policy?
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2022
- Have you observed a trend in India where Japanese brands only focus on hybrid cars and are not interested in launching evs?
Yup, precisely that's what we have covered in this video, after watching this video all your doubts related to going hybrid and EV war will be cleared.
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One Mistake, a blunder actually. I claimed glanza to be a CNG electric hybrid car, but it is actually a normal CNG vehicle, ( but the facts still remain the same for hybrid and same variant petrol car)
I am expanding my team and it is my fault that I didn't check the facts thoroughly, Please grant my Apologies.
Your content is top notch. Keep up✌️
Plz keep making more content
Your content is awesome. Keep up the good work. Guys please do subscribe, I did it today after watching videos for so long.
You need to seriously educate yourself about EV
1. If all Indian start running EV it will seriously reduce carbon emission compared to ICE cars ..because even with 100% coal electricity emission is less for EV and our grid is improving everyday
2. EV does not take any time to charge because 99% cars will charge at home at night
3. If we all go EV our dependency on foreign oil will go down
4. India exponentially growing in renewable energy
5. India has all the raw materials to build infinite Iron phosphate batteries
6. If you can see a bulb running around you you have infrastructure for EV.
7. After grid upgrades India has power surplus
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Bring plug in hybrids with battery range of 50km. It will solve most problems. For most people daily 50km is more than enough. The car will run most of the time only on battery power. In case one needs to go for long journeys, the petrol option is always there in a plug in hybrid.
Exactly that's the thing this video misses entirely. People only want plugin hybrids because it's ridiculous to use petrol when your 90% of your run could have been purely electric. It's leaves bad taste in user experience plugin hybrids save 80% of the cost and these dumb hybrids save less than 25%.why would I ever pay more than double for "hybrid" 😂
True.. plug in hybrids will tension free for every customers. If they add charging system through solar.. then they can save a lot of money in a long run
Honestly, 50 km is too little range for a car, although I know hybrids don't have very good electric range. Some don't even run on electric independently, specially Toyota. The best hybrid SUV with good EV range is probably BMW X series (70-80 Km).
✔️ yes that's the need of the hour
With 50km range if you are a daily user you will nearly daily have to charge the battery which will make the battery nearly useless in 4-5 years needing replacement
Overall it can be understood that, Government should use some Wisdom and if they are not willing to minimise the GST on Electric-Hybrid vehicle to 5% , atleast reduce it to somewhere near 15-20%.
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That beats the whole purpose of taxing IC cars so high. Pollution wise there's no significant difference, the motor burns oil to produce electricity. The high mileage is only achieved during ideal cases, on a highway a pure IC is better, in city traffic an EV is much better. The whole push for EVs is to reduce oil imports, if current scenario isn't enough to make you realise that OPEC is a bunch of selfish pricks. On the other hand electricity can be made by nuclear plants, a few grams of uranium will run a plant for a decades.
@@shenanigans4177 so you can promote plug in hybrids which has a range of around 70km and daily city driving is around 60-70 only . and there is also ice engine
@@shenanigans4177 PLUS IN HYBRIDS
@@shenanigans4177 only a fool would take electric for highway travels
@@hardiksaini7861many fools are driving it on highways are more than happy with their decision.Many intelligent people just cannot digest the fact that blackberry(ice vechiles) are soon going to be usurped by iphones.
I agree, hybrid cars will bridge the gap between EV and ICE. I believe, OEMs will launch both affordable and luxury vehicles in EV segment while launch only luxury cars in Hybrid segment by 2030.
I will recommend the plug in hybrid which will support short city commuting by battery which will be about 30 - 40kms range and petrol engine will start after this while in the background there will be a dual fuel efficiency with both engines supporting each other for longer drive modes. Stanley Roberts
Incentivising Hybrids will slow down induction of Pure EVs, which is not desirable. Hybrids would have been welcomed 5-10 years back when EV manufacturing in India was non existent. Now govt is trying to incentivise EV production which is highly essential in current circumstances. Charging Infra will keep coming up as sale of EVs increases. We are not very far from achieving ranges of 500 to 600 km in one charge (just a matter of 1-2 years), which will then make it attractive to replace your IC engine (petrol/diesel) cars. So while Hybrid tech is welcome, it should not be at the cost of ultimate goal (EVs)
We are committing the same mistake of protectionism which we did before 1980's. It is more important to lay out a level playing field in order to ensure that customers gat the most benefits & our companies too are on high alert to ensure competitive prices and great quality in order to survive and flourish. 👍🏼
Nobody is preventing foreign brands from making EV. India should support Indian brands first.
don't bother friend...Idiots will never understand ..They just shout India Indian brands without thinking whether it would actually help.. Indian brands? lol either shitty service or shitty engines. With competition only good companies will survive.. good company = happy customer.. Though I respect Tata sir immensely, facts cant be ignored Tata cars have problems. Both Mahindra and Tata have problems. If we remove competition company become lazy and start trying to make money off of ancient techs.. like ambassador
So you don't protect your Kids, and supporting Neighbors, give them everything. finally you lost and broke, end up with nothing.
@@HunterGatherer90 let's say you gave your kid everything he did not have to work for any of the things he has got, he'll become lazy and become very comfortable living of his parents money which leads to the risk of a lazy bum who doesn't know hardship. Now if we take a competition where every kid has to work for their belongings whether it be doing chores for allowances, etc. The kid will know hardship of working and not spend money like a maniac
@@anudeepmayura11 Many idiots have idea of themself of great intellectuals. There is no licence Raj today. In 1980s there were many soft drinks like gldspot thumpsup ,sprint etc. All was killed by cococola and Pepsi. They were better than cococola but doesn't have deep pockets. Tata is surviving because of TCS. They invested huge profits from TCS to lossmaking automobile industry because they are patriots and wanted to make internationaly competitive products. It is governments duty to give them a helping hand.
Policies should be people centric.. Not company centric ..bhaad me jaye Tata.. Sirf 1-2 companies ka market na shrink ho jaye isliye govt. isliye itni sahi Technology par tax kam nhi kar Rahi .. What a rubbish decision.. And sahi baat h jab sari electricity hi coal se ban rahi h to electric vehicles are irrelevant.
Kab dimag aayega hmari govt. Me🤷😤
Your point is valid
One more thing though, even if one uses coal produced electricity, it turns out to be better in CO2 emissions as compared to ICE. The advantage is reduced, that is true, so not exactly very good
भाई your comment ಓದಲಿಕ್ಕೆ one needs to know both Hindi and English!
See my point☝️?
You are right, there are bunch of kids who are like "Tata" is this, that meanwhile having 0 knowledge about cars! A true person thinks about their personal interest rather than making the rich richer
Saving policies by gov is most crony form of capitalism. It demolishes quality of products of market and removes competition. Gov has no business in running business. Gov should promote all kinds of competition.
I definitely think that hybrids are much better when compared to pure ev's .. if we talk about india 's progress in ev's.. as you get almost no range anxiety and its the problem for low end turbo end if ur an enthusiast.. and more than that.. for enthusiasts people.. hybrids are a clever play.. as most enthusiasts hate the fact that evs have no sound..and for mileage purpose too its very good..
Overall i definitely think that hybrids are a good addition towards an individual vehicle mark👍
I just realised i just wrote a whole freaking essay..
That's not for you it's for oil imports. As more people shift on cars overall crude oil imports won't decrease the mileage will be only adjusted for increased demand. Considering India population you really can't make your economy dependent on oil imports because as country grows demand will grow exponentially not linearly. Hence the reason they want to squeeze the manufacturers and people alike so that infra increases at rapid pace rather than mediocre pace if they were to promote hybrid tech cars. Which in my opinion is correct move. That's bad luck for Japanese brands but that's what it is India doesn't have the luxury of such level of high per capita income to afford that attitude "Kal dekh lenge jo hoga" anymore. You need to make decisions today that will affect you 30 years down the line. Plus there is another factor of importing tech at higher price, lessgrowth for domestic brands, not to mention the level corruption involved when politicians "expedite" things they will approve 2-3x price for infra taking even bigger cuts just like happened in commonwealth games 2010.
Nope.
Hybrids are but a stepping stone toward the real future: 100% electric cars.
Not hydrogen, not anything else: 100% electric cars are where we will all eventually end up.
Plus we don’t have to rely on burning coal to power our ev vehicles. Most of the electricity produced is by burning coal
Dekho Bhai India ko na cud Oli par kam nirbhar hona hey iskeley cars electric ⚡ car par jaya Dhyan deyna chahiye kyuki future e car hey but
Hybrid car ko hum 15 lakhs 40 lakhs ki car mey kar mey desal key oftion mey kar na chahiye Toyota fortuner ko hybrid model mey ana chahiye
Enthusiasts only like sound? Not power output and high octane driving? EVs have excellent torque and are very very powerful for their budget. A simple Nexon EV LR will out pace and outclass a grand Vitara strong hybrid any day of the week. Also its a blasphemy that a 23 lakh car is outpaced by a 20lakh one and also that the “Grand” vitara has a 3 cylinder engine with abysmally low torque and power figures given the price. Bhai 3 cylinder! 23 lakh ki😂😂😂😂 usse accha 15-16 lakh ki powerful car lo aur joh paise bachte hai usse agle 6-7 saal ka difference cover karlo😂
True destination for car lovers.......keep thriving Prakash Sir.
The tax system is to support Indian brands. and we can see Tata and Mahindra are going to be really aggressive in the EV market.
Japanese brands ko ignore nahi kiya jaa sakta... They hold the crown for Refinement and Reliability... Toyota is the largest car selling brand in the world, they definitely know what they are doing; in here population want mileage and Toyota wants 2 provide that with Hybrid tech...
@@rohanstormbanks7601 population also wants to support Indian brands. Tax system is for that purpose Toyota is here because japaneese government had immense support for their industries that's what indian government also hv
@@aayushmaanjaiswal0806 exactly 🔥
@@aayushmaanjaiswal0806 bro we don't hate Japanese, Infact I love 'em, but we need our Brands to Grow globally too, for which they need to get a hold on our market first.
@@rohanstormbanks7601 refinement ok but reliability is non existent in budget cars
Even after such big GST difference, EV's cost more than ICE vehicles. I somehow feel, EV manufacturers are pocketing the GST benefit as profits.
It's the cost of battery.
@@KejriwalBhakt It's the cost of their profits.
Looking at the current scenario in India hybrid technology should also be given priority along with EVs.
One says hydrogen one says ev one says hybrid one says cng focus on one tech or we will fall behind in everything
Ev is impractical in todays scenario.. 🙄
Right, full Hybrids are the way
I own a camry 2022. Bought it at an eye watering price but it does what it claims. 20-21 kms per ltr on highways and 16-19 kms non-highway. It seamlessly switches from Ice to battery and also has a lot of power on tap for quick overtakes and doesn't lug around the big heavy battery of pure electrics or plug-ins.
You're correct in stating that hybrid is the correct way of moving onto pure electrics until the charging networks become ubiquitous.
It's unfortunate that hybrids which save so much fuel is overlooked by govt. especially with the cost of petroleum products skyrocketing.
A guy said that on highways these hybrids switch to ice then is such conditions what is the average you are getting as compared to city drive. Does it drop significantly. And enlighten us about its service cost and maintenance.
@@MANDARRPANDE it depends on your driving style. I'm mostly a sedate driver. On Mumbai pune expressway I get 22 kmpl from Pune to Mumbai and 19 on my way back probably because of the elevation, I. E. Pune is at a higher level.
In camry there's an AGC mode that's engaged when you remove the foot off the accelerator in eco mode. The car coasts at the speed and it's using up the electric motor and ice is either disengaged or on very low consumption. So long things short, hybrids with Atkinson cycle are very efficient on highways but they seem even more so in stop and go traffic because of regen.
And if you're adventurous and switch to sport mode the 2.5 liter engine will propel you to your expectations. But it's going to gulp fuel now; still much much better than non hybrid turbos though. It's easy to frequently switch between eco normal and sport since they're well placed individual buttons. I use them per the condition.
The service costs and repair costs are nominal because it's a Toyota. Since it's not even been a year, I don't really know about the service costs, but it's very nominal in the range of 10 to 15k per year. I had blown a fuse because I plugged in a tyre inflator, Toyota fixed it for Rs 125 officially.
To sum it up it costs like German cars, is (probably more) comfortable, luxurious than the Germans, more reliable and fuel efficient too.
The upkeep and cost of ownership is like a normal Toyota car actually. It's resale value apparently is extremely good compared to Germans. It's built like a tank and has numbers to prove in safety. It rides like an alladin carpet and with pin drop cabin silence and has more than enough headroom for quick overtakes. Also very well behaved handling for such a heavy car.
The downsides are
Since it's a rare car, the parts take a long time to arrive for repairs / service.
It's costly upfront, a mental image of an international taxi competing with the likes of audis, mercs and beemers.
Even after spending so much, you also have to deal with the same unsophisticated sales and rub shoulders with rest of the Toyota customers. I don't have a problem here though.
The brand recall doesn't scream - they've arrived - I don't have a problem here either.
Since it's a Toyota it takes them their own sweet time to bring in quality of life features that are now common even in cars costing one third. 360 camera is big miss for such a big car.
Waiting times. I booked it in March and got it in September.
I hope this'll give you a fair idea.
I owned a prius in the past. It's fuel efficiency is still very much over the ice counterparts. What was also true with Prius is its highway mileage was slightly lower than its city mileage but still higher than ice, perhaps the source of confusion.
@@samratjpatilyou wrote a whole book on your hybrid car 😊
Hybrids are a great balance between Environment conservation, Fuel efficiency and Practicality... Best for India👍👍
Problem is Tata should make them more
My answer: the Indian brands managed to find EV kits from China, but it is mot possible to get a Hybrid kit from anywhere! 😂
You are right 🤣
Yes.Its ironic but it's true😄
Hahhaa
❤❤❤❤❤ exactly bro using ev
You fiding more money to china
Japanese are experts in making IC Engines and They don't want to let that go (As Ppl buy Japanese cars for their Reliable Engine s), that's why instead of transitioning from IC to EVs they are trying to promote Hybrid cars
EVs have lot of reliability issue right now and they don't want to tarnish their reputation by selling substandard products. They think EVs won't be mainstream till 2030 as tech is evolving very fast and no sane company can invest fully on one tech as it's very risky.
Indian brands haven't done any R&D on EVs, they are just reselling other company tech and Toyota or Honda can't do that.
i think tesla is cooking best ev technology for EV
@@suyogshinde Only thing tesla is cooking is scandal.
@@suchender801 tesla model y is the best selling car model in the world. If evs were so unreliable how are these cars being sold in such huge numbers.Toyota has always downplayed evs and now when it sees real competition from companies like byd tesla vin etc they are trying to push hybrids.In a decades time they could easily become Nokia or blackberry of automotive industry if they don’t change their strategy.
@@suyogshindethat's byd
At least we can reduce the tax on hybrid from 43% to 10% or 20% for the time being. Eventually it can reach 5% similar to EVs. As a country we must expand our portfolio and have multiple sources
main bhi same hi maanta tha k hybrid cars make more sense for indian market, atleast for next 10 years
That doesn't mean we should alienate our own companies....
Thoda relief hona chahiyeh hybrid vehicles k GST me... Pura one sided ho jaa raha hai... Kaha 5 percent aur kaha 43 percent...
@@Bond047 You think for them but they don't give a shit about you
Battery in ev car produces 5 times more carbon than ICE cars. Balance of both is good for sustainable mobility.
a 1 litre 4 cylinder 100 bhp engine with about 40 bhp electric motor with a range of 50 km @ 50 km/h for pure electric mode (plug in system) for cars between 10 to 15 lakhs would be fair.
It may not be the future but it is one of the best stop gap arrangement between ic and ev.However ,get must be reduce to make it cheap.
Hybrid is actually much better then CNG too, the mild hybrid 48v tech is killer
Which one is best among mild/smart/strong hybrid?
@@vmusic007full Hybrids
India me electric car leke jo mantal stress hota hai vo next level hai😬
@@SACHINACHARYA Abe hijde abb tu batayega muje kya khelna hai?😂
Just like we moved from incandescent bulbs (petrol only cars) to CFL (Hybrid cars) to LED (full electric) ... But govt seems to FAIL in recognising this too. 😑
Indian government keeps shielding the domestic brands from competition, hasn’t worked ever, never will
Electricity infrastructure will be in a tough spot given the amount of power consumed by EVs
India needs all kinds of vehicles, and specifically promoting one or the other will only lead to problems during transition
We get plenty of sunlight. Also solar panels are getting cheap.
The amount of research you put on making these videos makes it worthwhile. I haven't seen any other channel on youtube making the type of videos you do. Keep up the good work 👏
Apart from infrastructure and exorbitant cost EVs have several other problems related to battery like lifespan, fire hazard, replacement cost, charging time, raw material unavailability makes it very unsuitable for mass adoption so hybrid is only viable option as of now. Tata and mahindra have no hybrid tech so their oppose is quite obvious.
that replacement of battery and lifespan is an issue in hybrids too but although i agree that hybrids are much better as for now..
Truely companies not having hybrid tech are opposing that cz they would require a large investment for the same. Toyota’s idea about hybrids rather than evs is much more worthy and smart looking at Indian conditions and prioritisations.
But imo hybrids are better to adapt rather than evs.There would be a very niche public to buy evs (mostly as secondar car), but in case of hybrid it would be highly adaptable for all the people + enthusiasts wouldn’t complain driving a “battery car” without feel! 😂
No problem with EVs, but at least cut some percentage of GST from hybrids... 5% on EVs and 43% on Hybrids... A little relief from 43% shudnt harm much...
Recently a lot of articles have come up claiming Tata might be working on a proper electric version (not retrofit) of Nano. Is there any reason for such news or is it pure speculation?
Incredible Video bhai....RUclipsrs like you are the future of Indian Automobile
Plug-in hybrid is the need of the hour. They motivate and induce a habit of charging, and running on electric while petrol in them would kill the range anxiety.
Self charging hybrids are better than plug in hybrid bro there will be no jhanjhat of charging the battery and wait great move by Japanese brands by launching self charging hybrids like city hev,grand vitara hybrid,urban cruiser hyryder hybrid,camry hybrid,velfire hybrid
Yep, plug ins are best solution... Slowly and steadily people will develop the habit of charging to save fuel but will also have the peace of mind that if battery runs out IC will kick in... In future when there will be proper infrastructure for EVs it wudnt be much problem for the population to acquire the habit of charging...
@@manoj.s.chandra5643 . Plug on always better.
Excellent Video! Impressive execution! Keep It Up, Hopefully will see more informative videos from you soon!
I like your description of various car technology and it's issues.
Tata opposing the hybrid because they don't have infrastructure & experience and already invested a lot in EV.
Yes
If possible please make a video on why popular global car model and in some cases the entire company doesn’t launch cars in India for example cars like Ford Focus, VW Golf, Toyota 86 and companies like Mazda, Subaru etc.
Too expensive for the general population. Impractical cars wrt price, very niche market. Not worth it
Americans and the Germans are thirsty and demand xpensive maintenance... U can always find memes that American cars are gas guzzlers and German cars are over-engineered... Toyota, Mazda and Subarus can be reliable but most of their products are in premium range... In here only Maruti Suzuki & some Honda models are doin good in the market...
Ford has been a loser outside its home market. Its models are unsuitable outside North America and it's unwilling to change them
@@ArmageddonIsHere Yep, but chevy is worse, they had to shut down their operation completely in so many countries... Ford still has some hatchback and crossover models goin on in UK and some schengen countries but thats it... Typical Yanks; they say 1.5 litre and 2 litres are for buying milk, real man buy 6.2 litres Hemi...🤭🤭🤭
Expensive, people won't buy a Golf for 15 lakhs, they will buy a tin Suv for 12 lakhs instead
In my opinion, hybrid cars are better for our future than EV's. Unlike electric cars, you don't have to worry about range and wait for long hours to get the battery charged. Hybrids are also much better when it comes to driving engagement. And people who say that EVs have lower running costs than ICE cars should consider the fact that ICE cars are still the mainstream when it comes to vehicles. Once EVs become mainstream, the cost of electricity will increase greatly because the demand and supply for electricity will increase and with Increase in demand and supply, the prices will also increase.
There is one vital point all are missing. Once all evs are on the road, there would be long line at charging stations there by defeating the main purpose of low running cost at the expense of valuable time
@@purushottamdeshpande5191u both have valuable points to note 👌🏻👏🏻
@@purushottamdeshpande5191 That's a very good point. Hope we will get alternate solutions for vehicles other than EVs in the future.
@@purushottamdeshpande5191Which is why you charge at home. More home chargers are needed
I listen your back to back videos like audiobook while working .. amazing content
Kudos 👍👌
Infrastructure is available if you drive in medium or big city but you have to act careful and keep track of charging
India should think India centric approach towards any deals from global companies:
1. Hybrid model might be more suitable for these companies as they already have invested and devloped the technology and selling the same to the world.
2. Hybrid model would really on petrol economy which in turn would be a load on Indian currency.
3. Development of low cost EV solution can become India's USP if the technology in devloped inhouse within India which can be exported to the world.
4. Hybrid model would only increase the range but the overall final ownership cost would be transferred to the customer by the global multinational companies.
The entire problem is these hybrids are not even the real hybrids. Indian market needs plugin hybrids where users can save 80% of what ev saves not 20% of what ev saves. 😂 It feels ridiculous that if I go to office in these so called hybrids I still have to spend almost same amount as before maybe 10-15% less that's it. How much a hybrid owner feel the pain of not able to use cheap electricity despite his battery size being large enough that he can make only way trip after each charge?😂
We Don't know the challanges that Pure Electric Vehicles may bringin Indian Transport and Energy sectors but they will Challange the system for sure ..... Making Hybrids affordable with proven advantages and Alternative to any upcoming issues with electric vehicles is of great necessity !
It's most Wise to go Hybrid for now !
Gem of a channel bro... Many many subscribers to you bro .. excellent knowledge with good graphics
Very well researched and well articulated topic
Plug in hybrid is most sensible option ... Electric cars gives range anxeity 😅
Cost?
Cost badi baat nehi hain, indian jyadatar logo ke dimag mein car leke long journey ka khayal bhi ata hain , aur yehi par hi electric cars mat khaa jati hain
Nexon EV max has range of 450 km with 40 kWh battery
Then if we Remove the electric battery and put petrol generator to generate electricity we can achieve 9 kWh per litre and travel 400-500 km with just 4-5 litre of Petrol. Lithium and other rare metals se toh Kum he pollution hoga and range bhi bahot extend kr sakte hai. 70-90 km per litre ki mileage mil sakta hai jugaad se
Your videos are soo insigjtful... i always look forward for it!! Thanks for sharimg such amazing content!!
Protectionism is why India will always remain a domestic player.
Also Mahinda can make hybrids by making their marazzo MPV they should relaunch it and make it hybrid with all wheel drive front wheel powerd by engine and rear wheel powerd by electric motor and the result can be get will be a peace of cake 🤌😉 as Toyota did with there innova and we have a gem name as Toyota Innova hycross
for city rides electric and for long rides hybrid cars
Awesome to u and ur team 👍 u have done ur homework for sure !! Keep up the good work
This guy always kills it! Superb content!
5% gst for EV and invest in charging infra but on other hand 28% gst on flexfuel hybrid
Well its a best idea for any automotive company to promote .... Indian companies must welcome this idea and learn to improve their products too
Basically governments are least bothered about the carbon footprint and emissions. Money collection is drastically reduced if gst is lowered to5pc on hybrid cars
The FAME II subsidy still covers BEVs and Hybrids as well, right? But still why isn't these cars a hit in our market?
Please correct me if wrong.
A more middle ground approach should be developed towards hybrid but should not be equated to EV unless the company's aggree to transfer teh end benifit to customer.
Suzuki itself in the guise of semi hybrid sold cars with start stop features to claim benifit instead to applying the technology which they have already developed..
That Smart hybrid in Suzuki is a joke. It's more like a pseudo hybrid instead of a semi hybrid...
I think we should discuss on topic of disposal mechanism of EV batteries .That's going to be challenge in future.
@ Biturbo pls consider
Bana nahi sahi se abhi aur disposal phle solve krle?
Awesome video. You will rarely find such videos about cars on youtube.
Very informative. Keep uploading these kind of videos.
Hybrids are the future definitely 👍
I guess Hydrogen car also
No only a stopgap solution
Ethanol hybrid cng hybrid
Bruh electric
@@Black45328 no fun in ev cars
hybrid cars r much more sensible option for customers big ev cars would be flop for multiple reason also ev infrastructure & technology needs lot of years to actually see on-ground results don't get in hype of elon musk
As you mentioned, it is important to push for 💯 % charge electric, to develop electric infrastructure. Although 75%electric do comes from coal, don't underestimate we are increasing in solar production and other renewal energies as well. Recently we discover lithium deposits in J&k. In the future May we Indian automobile industry will have upper hand in electrifying the cars at reasonable price.
How do we do a research like this ??
But we want an Indian brand like tata and mahindra
Ha .... License Raaj time pe same tha like HM and Padmini type...Aur 20 sal piche Lao india ko vehicle segment me
Tata & Mahindra are cowards & not innovative. Low class trash. We need to support Hybrid startup Indian brands.
The mileage advantage of hybrid is useful only in city drive, where because of regen and high usage of bettery, the actual mileage is close to claimed one. However when you move to highway, the mileage drops significantly (as car mostly runs on mostly on engine). This coupled with compromised boot capacity, its not great choice for highway drives.
If you are only driving in city, then EV have great advantage over hybrid as charging time and range is not an issue and per kilometer running cost is very low.
It would take may be 4 to 5 years for good charging infrastructure, post that hybrid will loose its current advantage.
There is one problem though..
People are used to refuel on the go.
In 5 mins..
With electric cars you will have to spend at least 30 mins (fast charging)
If I am going to office and I know I have 30 kms to cover but range left is 20km..
I just can not take the car right..
No one has extra time in the morning ..
exactly. thanks for the comment
@@sanketnegi1 the new Tiago with smaller battery also has 180km range, quite sufficient for couple of days of city travel for majority of commuters. You can charge overnight after that to restore full range of 180 kms the next day.
But EV is not for people without designated parking spot near the electricity metre where you can install home charger. Hybrids can be a solution for such people.
The boot space is not an issue at all in international products such as the Camry, but is on he hyryder and grand vitara, and that is because of the complete, absolute SHITTY rule of the government that cars larger than 4m and engine larger than 1200cc get 50 percent tax on them. The Indian government is completely stupid when it comes to automobiles. They still think that cars should be a luxury.
Bro, your technical explaining skills are fine n fantastic 👌
Very nice video. Indians have that tendency to pull leg of one who try something different then what you think is best. Indian car manufacturers should not forget they were Japanese who made affordable cars for middle class Indians when owning a car was dream for avg indian.
I'm very much into Hybrid cars
I'm waiting for Honda hybrid SUV which will come in Creta segment
Why SUV Honda city much better
@@varuntomer1725 roads ? Why buy sedan if you can get an suv? Trust me sedans are nothing like a sports car incase you think it is. I have driven a mustang.
@@rjf5022 why buy SUV when you got sedan with body roll,low mileage,low boot space,stiff suspension why SUV is nothing in front of sedan.
@@rjf5022 ruclips.net/video/XMHRUJaZ0pQ/видео.html
Japanese are technologically advanced better hybrid cars will leads to adoption of EVs
Better hybrid cars will lead to adoption of *hybrids* not EVs.
Logic....
Really hard work to make this type of videos.....Nice R & D
I made a plug in hybride car with mahindra tdi 200 hp engine with 145 hp electric motor lots off peoples drive it and like it and love it.
Your all videos are next level 🔥
Hlo there
😂
@@atharva689 After so many days
Toyota, Suzuki & Hyundai always dominated every four wheeler companies in India, especially they dominated Indian brands.
These companies don't compete with eachother but they form a cartel (union) to control the market prices.
You may have seen similar types of cars has similar types of prices!! There is no compitition between these companies.
These companies are never in the business of providing actual services.
They always tried to to show how good they are and simultaneously do dirty business from behind.
That's why Tata and Mahindra don't give a shit about them in real.
Electric car me jo battery import hoti hai usska kya ??
Ek nexon LR ki battery se 50 hybrid cars ban sakti hai.
Ice engine is more recyclable than battries.
Is it possible to use a portable electricity generator that uses petrol to charge a ev?. Then I can use my ev to anywhere by having such device i my bonnet and it will be hybrid. No need for dedicated charger.
Besides the nice points raised by you, hybrid is also the next stage in the evolution of the ICE.
1st were engines of mechanical purity which moved to electronic interventions and now electric.
A full hybrid powerplant replaces the mechanical multi speed gearbox with electric motors to cope during the torque challenged regions of the ICE.
While the ISG in a mild hybrid powerplant can eliminate the torque converter required to pair the ICE to a CVT.
EVs with the current battery technology are not there yet. A few decades of hybrid motoring might be inevitable.
Are bhaiya kya jhooth bol rahe ho aap bol rahe ho ki India mein koi electric infrastructure hai he nhi Tata ne alone bahut sare EV charger install kar di hai pure India mein aur 2025 Tak unka goal hai 70000 ka aur Tata Power ko generate karti hai.
He is very biased against EV. I used to love his channel. But recently due to his biasedness, I unsubscibed.
Karna hi padega agar apni EV bechni hai… hybrids much better hai ev se. Aur Indian brands competition pasand nhi karte bas monopoly rakhna chahte hai. Aur mai hamesha Japanese ko favour karuga India ki Tata Mahindra koi free me bhi dega to nhi luga
Sahi baat hai humare bihar mein bas 3-4 jagahon par hi charging stations hai wo bhi sirf do district mein to hum ev kaise kharidein, jab tak ki charging stations har petrol pump pe ya alag se nhi lag jaata ev kharidna mushkil hai
Bit confused you compared glanza cng hybrid. But TATA also has CNG hybrid cars.
Diesel Is Way Better Than Hybrid 💯 Power+Mileage.
But not environment friendly
Eco distroyer
@@abhaykumar-wp9fl f##k the earth , global warming eya😎
What about cigarettes and beedis aren't they polluting,what about burning tyres in useless protest doesn't pollute,burning wastes in empty lands doesn't pollute environment only ic engines pollute wah
@@manoj.s.chandra5643 true bro💯 Even Accidents v hote Hain Nashe Ke chalte Maximum % of Chances but Govt Ko Munafa Hota hai to Koi Kuch Nahi Bolega💯
Toyota is far more trust worthy company compared to tata
Agreed
Jaruri nahi ki hybrid ache se kam karegi believe me Or not
In one of his video he even covered negatives of hybrid technology
@@suhas7 i agree u too.. but many people in this world just trust toyota more than hybrid.. moreover i think toyota is far more reliable than tata 's cheap chinese batteries..
So true we want to buy Toyota hyryder g variant of 14.5 lakhs but if tax is reduced it can come down to even 12 lakhs which is really impressive with 27km/l not even Swift or Alto gives that much nice average per litre
8:22 yes our power plants run on coal and produce emissions but they are way more efficient with the coal used for production than a car because while in a car only 40% of your fuel is used to travel distances, in a pwer plant there is about 80% power generation efficiency
Hybrids are definitely more viable for india as of now than ev. Its just a win-win situation for all(maybe except for tata and mahindra), more fuel effeciency, less emissions with just a bit of more money. And as time goes on, companies can transition to plug-in hybrid model which will help in boosting of the EV infrastructure in india.
Flex fuel is the future and yes Indian brands should also focus on Ethanol cars
Ethanol is not sustainable fool. Hydrogen is the future for all big vehicles.
@@nishant54 Ethanol might not be sustainable in other countries but it is in India as we make most of ethanol from sugar and where as in countries like US ethanol is made from Corn 🌽 making ethanol from Corn is energy negative process whereas making Ethanol from Sugar is energy positive…. Ethanol is very cheap compared to traditional gasoline and is more energy dense where as Green hydrogen is not cost effective……
@@sumirat6888only in short term india is not brazil. What happens when we have 200 cars per 1000 people or 400 or 600 like saudi arabia or 800 like usa. Think of 2040 2050 2060
@@sumirat6888i think we need metro and a better bus system in every city.
@@sumirat6888 Green hydrogen is the future and costs will come down as the scale increases and electricity is generated from either nuclear or solar power.
The government is acting with a bias towards Indian Carmakers. We should have Hybrid cars first.
Earlier we didnt had cng pumps as well it takes time for developing infrastructure with more purchase there will increase in charging points and also upgrade in technology.... For now india is more focused to decrease the dependency in petroleum and look for other option as well its more over important with our growing demands and decrease the petrol dependency
Bro your videos are literally boom for people like us… budding automobile journalists/ automotive RUclipsrs😊
Keep the good up for our enlightenment💫
Hybrid technology is great but we also need to protect our own brands. Suppose someday we take back POK and west sanction us like Russia, we will be helpless. Its important that we protect as well as expose our Indian companies to real competition.
We should also push and provide incentives to Indian brands to develop vehicles on multiple fuels.
Protectionism has led us very far indeed
No issue with govt doin its part for our brands, but they can relieve some tax from Hybrids, GST on them is way 2 much...
haha 1990 vala haal hojayega India ka phir se. IMF ne gand pe danda marke protectionism hataya tabhi tum abhi youtube chala pa rahe ho
Very informative video. I'm a subscriber now. 👍
Yours vidoes are always on point and really very informative, you analysis are spot on very easy to understand for lay man like me, I support hybrid cars but govt need to reduce abundant taxes
Very nice video as always!🙏
Tata is no doubt market leader in EVs, but it lacks innovation...
Tmrw if BYD, wuling get access to Indian markets..Tata will lose that spot.
Thats why tata shoild also partner with BYD. Make the enemy a friend💁🏻♂️
@@Nayan-ic3ig Joint venture not the best way.
In house RnD is a must
@@nishant4262 finally someone who has knowledge about these partnership acts and such..
@@nishant4262 no no. Tata is not known for r&d as much. They acquire others and expand. Don't you know how nano failed because of r&d.
@@thatwasperfect656 says the non perfect
Go for ev ... Hybrid technology is not good... Indian me sufficient charging station hay .... iss tarike ka video se negative news mat failaiye
it's not sufficient(only in cities there are considerable charging points,they want to promote EVs but infrastructure hi nai banana🤡look at the US,Joe Biden recently announced 5 lakh charging stations all across America
Does Indian govt and politicians think like that?
Where do you get parking space to recharge your ev
How about battery replacement cost of strong hybrid?.
Sir.. Plz don't limit this channel to cars only.. Plz cover complete vehicle industry including 2 Wheeler.. I know the channel is not limited to cars as of now.. U have covered all kind of automobile in past.
One one hand you focus on all the negetives of EVs. But completeley ignore the negetives of hybrid and flex fuel engines. With EVs there is a complete possibility to generate electricity using solar panels, even at your house. There are other ways such as hydro, wind and nuclear. Electricity does not come only from coal.But there is no way you can produce fossil fuel locally. Fuel has to be imported. Also do you know how much energy intense fuel refining is? With ethanol, lets imagine, all vehicles shift to ethanol. Where does ethanol come from? Sugarcane. So how will you meet the demand of widespread adoption of ethanol? Grow more sugarcane. You know sugarcane is a highly water intensive crop and affects water table badly. With rising demand, many farmers will shift from food crop cultivation to sugarcane cultivation. How are we planning to mitigate this? Bottomline is there are positives and negetives of everything. But these days I feel you are more biased against EVs. One more thing is that you said Tata and Mahindra are lobbying against hybrid because they dont have the technology. But it can also be that Toyota and Suzuki are reluctant to shift to EVs because they too dont have the right technology and supply chain setup for it. The japs are no saints either. Toyota had this technology from the past 25 years. If they felt hybrid is the magic pill, then why not introduce it earlier in India? Why wait till now and come up suddenly that hybrid are a magical pill and cry foul? Its just that now the EV shift has started and they just want to buy some time for it.
Some of the points that you raised are valid, especially about ethanol, it’s a failed idea
On top of it, I would say that Japanese know that EV infrastructure is in no shape here, and neither the electricity grid to support even 20% of the cars (as an example)
They did not introduce hybrid cars because it’s an expensive technology, in India the best designs are simple designs. To diagnose and repair a hybrid system is another ball game, when currently majority of the support staff in India cannot even diagnose issues in DSG gearboxes
You are also importing batteries and motors from China, so it’s rather better to import fuel from other nations in the meantime, in my opinion. Forex deficit with China is very skewed as it is
@@NalinKhurb , I knew the battery import thing would come. When ICE vehicles first came to India, everything was being imported. Later, only the engines were imported but the body was made here. Now we have come to the stage where we not only manufacture our engines but we are also the export hub for automobiles. Likewise we are importing batteries now. But work to setup lithium ion battery plants are already under the way. Government has launched the PLI scheme and is working with private players to manufacture battery and electronic components needed for EVs. Govt has also brought lithium mines in Chile under the name of a company called Khanij Bidesh India Limited. So gradually it will get localised. So China is not the only solution and we are already working on alternatives.
Coming to the point where you say that Indian grid is not even '20%' ready for EV. I dont know from where you get that number. The Japanese companies know jackshit about Indian grid situation. They are just buying time. Please read the below article.
inc42.com/features/how-electric-vehicles-will-impact-electricity-demand-indias-grid-capacity/
@@shas312 It's a different viewpoint. IMO, I would rather buy foreign fuel than source something from China, if it can be helped of course. And I'm sure my kind Sir that those imported engines were not from China. Lmao
Good to see India taking some concrete steps regarding energy independence. Thanks for the info
That 20% was a hyperbole, miss the brackets? Many places do not receive 24hr electricity as it is, does one expect it to improve even if 1/5th of the cars are electric. Forget places like Delhi (as per the article), there's world outside as well
Plug-in hybrids seem to be the best strategy for India. India needs all kinds of vehicles, including EVs and flex-fuel cars.
Japanese are buying time for what? Can't they make EVs if they wish to? Lol.
They're just waiting for the right moment until the charging infrastructure gets widespread and then you'll see them crushing the competition, as always. First mover disadvantage is what they're saving themselves from
Despite enjoying a majority share of 85% in 4w EV space (private), Tata's RSA and after sales are pathetic. It's a mindset problem. Indian manufacturers take plenty of liberties when it comes to delivering an overall refined experience. Japanese do not make that mistake as often, and especially MSIL
How about combination of Ethanol and electric ??
I think the best solution for this is plugin hybrid, with 50-60km real world range. You can charge it overnight at home and use for daily purpose, and when you need it for a long drive it will still be more efficient on highway and city than normal ic car. For this purpose 10kw battery is fine and it's weight will be roughly 90-100kg that is not that much.
how can you say EV infrastructure doesnt exist in india , you said hai hi nahi. please dont create a faulty bubble of misinformation sir, i stay in north goa in the 30 kilometers of range there are 17 charging stations with both fast and slow options available.
Glanza had hybrid version? That too at 8 lakh? Why is it not there anymore...?
Can please make a video on CATL and BYD and current developments in Battery technology such as - Sodium ion, Graphene, solid state, etc 😊😊
Indian EV's are :
1.cost effective over 7 years life span.
2. Save foreign exchange ( even if 70% of electricity in India is by coal, that still is saving precious foreign exchange as coal is primarily mined in India vs petroleum/cng that's imported). This is evern more important in case of supply chain constrains as the world is presently facing)
3. Hybrid technology would be totally dependant on toyota & honda as nobody else has developed this globally. This would lead to a monopolistic situation.
4. The world is shifting to Electric. If India gives incentives to hybrid we would loose out opportunity for vehicle exports.
Finally, as you mentioned, for EV infrastructure to establish their's got to be a customer need. This will not happen if both hybrid & EV's are insentivised.
I've spent 32 years in the auto industry globally and am presently mentoring start-up's related to last mile EV's. In my opinion fuel cell EV's are a better option for India & toyota have the technology for that in their Mirai car. That's been given equal incentives too, so no need for hybrid ev's which are at higher life time cost, less environment friendly & baby on foreign exchange outflow