Sir Iain Duncan Smith joins Nigel Farage on Talking Pints to reflect on his political career
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I like IDS. A man of honest and integrity. Does not get enough credit for things he has done.
gobshite
@@thebeatcreeper I forgot where I remembered this scumma from. Cheers 👍
@@thebeatcreeper unfortunately the few ruin it for everyone. To many people claiming benefits when they are perfectly able to work. Bet you know a few of those. You know the ones that stay in bed all day expecting a wage from benefits, who people like me have to pay. Benefits should go completely.
@@thebeatcreeper no I don’t, I had to google what it meant. I believe in people pulling their weight and not expecting hand outs and other people having to carry them.
@@thebeatcreeper nothing wrong with a welfare state but it gets abused has done for years. If you went to as many houses as I’ve done were no one works. You would understand my frustration. Someone has to work to pay for the people sat at home. In your world no one would work and sit at home watching loose women. Nice.
A lovely interview with two honourable, decent gentlemen. What a breath of fresh air.
Exactly
Ian dunked in shit .
@Heisenberg they did a good interview without sarcasm and bad language to make their point though
@Heisenbergwell said👏👏👏 you do wonder don't you at people's skewed judgement?
@Heisenberg I felt as though I had wandered into a different dimension with that comment where farage and Duncan Smith were actually decent people?????🙄
Sir Iain is a good man, and like me, an ex-Guardsman.
no he is not, mug
A Decent man with sense
he brought in bedroom tax, i hate him
@@raymondadams7570 Oh ffs not THAT shite!
There was no 'Bedroom Tax'. That was just a trigger phrase fabricated by Labour to hide THEIR guilt in how Housing Benefit had been manipulated for electoral gain by THEM.
What you are referring to is the decision to make the Local Housing Allowance (LHA) applicable to all tenants claiming Housing Benefit (HB).
Lets remind ourselves who created the LHA? Tony Blair to reduce the amounts being paid in HB - a Labour PM CUTTING a benefit! So he decided what people should be paying in rent and the accommodation they needed and created the LHA regardless of local costs.
THEN on top of that he decided that those people who were Council Tenants would not be subject to LHA at all! Just private tenants. He set one set of rules for one person and another for a different person.
What IDS did was to bring Council tenants into the LHA a) to make it equal for all tenants and b) to try and move people out of housing they didn't need and was needed by larger families.
So no Bedroom Tax just making all people equal. How very Socialist!
He's a monster,, hated by many
It's always worth stopping and listening to what IDS has to say
He does seem to have some common sense and a bit of integrity
nice joke
@@bernicegaze3354 .... but lack decisiveness and practicality
Yeah, if your gullible
10 seconds wasted then.
I D S for pm 👋👋👋👋🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 this guy has got integrity and guts
Lol yeah of course, integrity for killing the poor
We need IDS as our PM.
next joke
Great interview Nigel 👏Total respect to Ian Duncan Smith he made so many valid points 👏 Like yourself he seems to genuinely love our country & it's people 👍
This guy IDS should be our PM. He is soldier and I trust soldiers heart and intent more than Eton's & Journalists
We could Ending with Gove or sajic ,,,
@@richardb5298 that’s my worry!
IDS hates the poor / sick and disabled - he invented universal credit and is a habitual liar - all these recent interviews are trying to gloss over his history whilst in reality he is one of the most hated politicians in recent history - I remember seeing him hiding in the back of a car at the back of the jobcentre and then going on tv saying people were trying to thank him for stopping their money
he was a guard ,thats really not a soldier
He created universal credit,,, he's a criminal
Nigel is a true treasure.
I remember that he held the door open for me when I visited the House of Lords. And very well presented - he wears his suit as if it was his Number Ones!
@@saffarty390 awww that more than makes up for his heartless view of refugee's and racism, bless him🙄
@janewright2800: congrats on being so easy to FOOL. Anyone with a functioning brain can see those OVERWHELMING MALE arrivals are NOT refugees, but economic migrants.
Always got my vote, underrated leader.
He wasn't a very good leader but he's been a good MP since then.
useless
@Gold Man whatever
@@christinebakewell3475 get a life
Ian dunked in shit .
IDS is a decent bloke.
We need conviction politicians....NOT career politicians.....
And we need a few convicted politicians
@@johnlochness I think that theres more than a few
We need both
Term limits for politicians and civil servants
I think you missed the pint
I've always thought of him as the new leader prospect since all this hassle with Boris. His last stint as leader was at such an unfortunate time and he really didn't get a fair chance. He always seems down to earth and is a good speaker and an imposing figure. Who else is there? Wishy Washy and cronies? He's also a Brexiteer which is important.
I think he would make an excellent Home Secretary but not PM he already had his chance at that.
Not the right man for the job. Still thinks that defeating Hitler was a win. Was it? Britain is now overrun, fractured and weak.
He’s a good chap. Not always sufficiently succinct.
Agreed
Farage is a shill who destroyed UKIP just as it was about to become a real contender.
IDS is definitely a true Conservative who I still believe is capable of steering the derailed Party back on track with low taxes and freedom of choice for all, though Lord Frost would be my choice for Leader as I believe that his true beliefs are better than other candidates posturing.
Old school and a good conservative.
All the current parties are big government big tax.
Including the current government.🤫
Ian I listen to him whenever he is on. I have admired him since he tackled the unemployment trap motivated by his faith and wanting people to be their best.
You mean he mentally crushed the self worth of many of the disabled and more vulnerable and poor in society and caused break downs and deaths plus suicide in their thousands. He is dispicable and you are clueless. Please look for the truth of the immense suffering caused whilst he and the cons drank champagne and others could not even have a decent standard of living while alot of the cons and their mates have gigantic tax havens.
I’m 33 and I’ve been questioning Chinese products my whole life! As a kid I’d ask my parents why is nothing made in this country? It used to worry me in a way.
Yes cheap Chinese products are going to cost us dearly.
Back as a kid in 1999 I remember the rulers said made in England! And I called that out as a joke, is this all we make? Not sure how I came to that conclusion, but it's really something I noticed from age of 5 onwards... Since then.... Besides some random cheese brands, and exported weapons and medicinals, I think that's all we genuinely make now.
@@samuelxd7954 We make more but the cheap goods we see in the shops are all from China. They knew what they were doing by undercutting European manufacturers and driving them out of business, it then made us completely dependent on them.
Because Chinese labour is a hundred times cheaper... if companies were manufacturing their products in the UK and wanted to keep the same margins you would be able to afford much (if you are a not a millionaire).
Perfect example is Morgan, they are overpriced mediocre cars that would cost 12k if the were manufactured in China...
@@VincentRE79 Agreed. I wouldn't have minded that so much - but what I saw was them stealing & copying the product manufacture, then setting up a rival concern, completely undercutting them & putting them out of business. If we can manage to salvage & re-invent some new tech stuff or even our traditional lines, how do we keep the CCP away?
Sir Ian you are spot on your father would be proud of you
What a real gentleman. What a contrast with the current PM.
@Heisenberg thankyou for telling the truth!!! IDS is dispicable for what he did!
I love the way Nigel remains neutral during the discussion whilst cleverly getting the answers he needs
Don’t socially-distance shame him
What other kind of behaviour would you expect from a Tory weasel?
All the anti EU Tories lie and talk nonsense, but no media cares. Most of them are previously sacked from government or using Brexit as only way they can be in government.
When Boris was foreign secretary he didn't know basic foreign policy history. The media made a massive fuss when he said a dumb unimportant comment on a TV show, but the media didn't care when he said on the same show that there wasn't a vote on the 2nd war against Iraq, when more Tory MPs had voted yes to it than other parties. That means he either puts on a clown act to get away with telling lies and the media is in with him. Or him and the media are stupid.
Boris is a man who shacked up with his pregnant girlfriend in No 10, with a string of previous women he got pregnant and treated badly including his wife, he was still married to while living with the girlfriend, and USA citizen Murdoch owned Sun make him out to be a trustworthy man.
Michael Gove said in Guardian Education that Labour were liars for saying Tories would get rid of EMA if they won the election, and then Tories did take away EMA when they won the election.
Others, like ex Tory banker Nigel Farage who was paying his foreign wife on tax payers expenses and hiding money in tax havens, pretends he's nationalist, when he's a capitalist Tory who wants us closely linked with USA banks encouraging greed and debt. He resigned as soon as he talked people into voting to leave the EU, to leave us out the EU with Tories in power.
Nigel Lawson who was Chancellor when the economy crashed in the early 90s after Tories did the opposite of Germany in the 80s by making millions unemployed, and left us an economy closely linked with USA banks encouraging people to live in debt, was recently advising Britain leave the EU, while he was applying to live in France.
People thought there would be less immigrants if we leave the EU, but instead of Europeans, we're getting more from the third world, caused by our policies of going along with the USA/international bankers, funding extremist groups to overthrow other leaders. Going back to times when the secret service whistle blower David Shayler told how Thatcher was using British money funding Al Qaeda in Libya to overthrow Gaddafi. While more old British people were dying of the cold than before Tories stole and sold off public owned energy. Leaving us an economy based on little else than being closely linked with the USA banks, encouraging many to live in greed and debt, until economy crashed by the early 90s, of which only the poor and those not any use at being a slave to the bankers, upper classes and Tory tax dodging friends paid for.
Even if Boris Johnson resigns, there will be worse Tories waiting to take his place.
As an English person I'm jealous Scotland can leave the UK to become more like the rest of north Europe and Scandinavia, with politicians who care about people and society. Devolution has already allowed Scotland to stop their students being £50,000 in debt like in England.
@@andrewsocial9309The EU can save us from Tories. The rest of north Europe and Scandinavia have better pensions and less differences between the rich and poor. Because England is full of brainwashed idiots who make us nothing but a lapdog to the USA banks, encouraging people to live in a permanent state of debt, especially if wanting a university education. Also in a permanent state of my war, where people are brainwashed from seeing it's the USA and England who are the danger to our lives and the planet. Even when British people are shot in n Tunisia and blown up in Manchester by extremists who trained in Libya after Gaddafi, our media never remind British people of the secret service whistle blower telling of Thatcher using British money to fund Al Qaerda in Libya against Gaddafi. That was while more old British people were dying of the cold than before Tories stole and sold off public owned energy.
Not to mention how Afghanistan wasn't extremist before the USA were arming and training the extremists there in the 80s against Russia. Then the USA didn't care about what was going on in Afghanistan after their involvement for years before Sep 11, such as females banned from education.
The country would be better off with Iain Duncan Smith as the Leader of the Conservatives!
Right now we need a man with military experience to deal what is comming in the world.
This man fits the bill and his take on Russians and china are spot on.
i think the ordinary people will back this man
At last. An interview that actually said something. At least someone in government can see what the rest of us see.
He sounds spot on to me, I wish he had a higher profile.
IDS is a wonderful man! He has my total respect and support!
I've always liked IDS right from the start of his 'vocation'. And he is the only guest of Nigel's who has drunk more beer than he has. He is the 'man'.
IDS is a good man who is also rather clever. He probably wasn’t the right guy for PM though but he is a principled, genuine and honourable politician who should be in the Cabinet as an experienced pair of hands for stability.
He's a ghoul
Principled!!!! Did your brain deliberately bypass the disgusting natzi like way he persecuted the disabled and vulnerable in society in austerity which was a choice not a necessity!!!!!! He has blood on his hands
Ian duncan Smith ,Michael Portillo,together with nigal f ,of course, straight talking honest politicians, shame they aren't in power
😂😂😂
Agree 100% with everything IDS says! China started this whole pandemic, and yet the Lateral Flow Tests I use weekly are manufactured in China! Why are we still paying/relying on China? We have the world's best scientists in the UK and labs.
I'm sorry that Nigel didn't ask IDS if he would put himself in the frame for leader, as others have said, he is a real gentleman and one that you could trust.
See 2000
@@timcomley3241 Are you the same person that you were 22 years ago?
Nah,,, he's a terrible person,,
@@mavis3916 In what way is he 'a terrible person'?
There is none so blind as one who will not see. We are sleep walking into a(nother) nightmare.
Indeed. And sadly, Duncan Smith is precisely the type ... all talk no action
@@gdiwolverinemale2745 sadly, one of the problems with the internet is (as I see it) that to 'like' or to post a comment too often substitutes for a physical vote or action. I guess we are all guilty of voicing our opinions in this way (armchair philosophy/rhetoric). But I tend to agree with you regarding Duncan Smith. I guess we can credit him with contributing to the discussion.
I have always considered Smith to be a honorable man, a dangerous thing to be in UK politics.
IDS always come across as a decent man. I think he has all the attributes that lots of politicians don't have.
IDS, a good man, a good leader - just the wrong time, when he was leader
He's a monster
IDS was in the right place at the wrong time. Straight talking and honest, principled and a true Conservative but it’s too late now as he doesn’t have the supporters.
So much sense from sense from I Duncan Smith what is going on especially on China I’m fearful of the situation
When American Presidents began to woo China with the express intention to sell them weapons , Reagan administration 1981 . But the real damage was done by Obama and his China Trade deal. It was even criticized by Clinton , so it must have been bad.
This man is great! Both these men are great ! 🥂
Great conversation. Much wisdom
🇨🇦 Well, if I was in England I would vote for Duncan Smith.
This interview really shows the contrast in what we have currently got and what we could have in an ideal world.
He had his chance, I agree though.
@@Yamah12a Agreed .. but .. everyone deserves a second chance .. FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED 🤞 😉🇬🇧🇬🇧😎😎
We have had ids as a government minister and he brought us the terrible Universal credit for example. He was a failed tory leader as well. As for Farage he is no more than a salesman of brexit which has proven to be an absolute disaster.
Good discussion - thanks.
Apparently Cameron, Osborne and especially now Boris showed this Gent utter contempt and do everything to exclude him from any say in Govn Policy. His decency is repellent to them.
Well done Nigel, you always have interesting guests. As you say Sir IDS has matured well.
Ian should replace Johnson without delay..he could and should get Brexit properly done - and appoint Nigel to assist him. John Redwood to replace lefty Sunak. Sack the rest of this cabinet...
It was a pleasure to listen to you Ian, with great style Nigel, thanks
If all politicians were like him, this country would be great
Those speeches at the start of the interview (same as the other day when IDS was on) gave me serious goose bumps - where is there anybody in the political ranks who can talk like that, and who you feel actually means what they say? (Also, who has that kind of real world foundation?)
I recall some years ago in Imperial College. In the lobby, there were so many young Chinese men milling around I thought there must be some delegation from China. I learned later they were students.
They're probably the same now in the White House, house of representatives etc and flanking Biden etc.
Enjoyed the interview. Thanks
said no one ever
Two class acts that given the opportunity could do so much more for our union.
In my opinion we should have IDS, Farage as PM. Good guys whom understand the people.
*who understand the people.
@@chrisharrison763 thank you
great guys
Good man IDS ... a solid bloke !
Nigel is a very good interviewer
How nice to see two of my favourite politicians from opposing sides showing so much respect to each other
I have always held Sir Iain Duncan Smith in high esteem.
Blair was there for years , that was the biggest mistake the UK has ever made .
Voting for Kier would be even worse.
@@aclark903
I don’t know about that , Blair is the spawn of the Devil , but why take chances .
@@supersonicsid5930 Blair did diabolical things, no question, particularly in the area of hate speech, but Kier thinks men who dress as women ARE women. Can you imagine how much more messed up things will get if he pushes that from Number 10? Out of power is the best place for him.
@@aclark903
Yes Blair certainly did do some horrendous things such as killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens who had nothing to do with the war and nothing to do with his lies of weapons of mass destruction. 179 British soldiers was sent to the death because of this war mongering lunatic.
As for Kier Starmer his about as much Labour Genghis Khan . Just another champagne socialist who would say anything and do anything to be the head of the labor party. Pretty pathetic and I would rather trust Harold shipman to take care of my granny than listen to the B/S coming out of his mouth .
The best PM we never had
mug
Could apply to either of them.
Great interview! big fan of Iain Duncan Smith!
I always liked Ian as an honest (as we can expect) polirician but he never had a real chance of being a leader. At least he is still trying to fight the fight.
If the Tory Party has any sense left in it then IDS has to be the next PM! He has proven himself to be one of the most honourable of politicians currently in Westminster! And he is a TRUE BREXITEER! UNLIKE BORIS or Truss!
IDS Honesty, Integrity, and humility is a very rare commodity in a modern-day politician.
I think it was Lord Salisbury who said of democracy "First-rate men will not canvass mobs; and if they did, the mobs would not elect the first-rate men" . Perhaps we get the politicians we, the electorate, deserve.
William Hague wasted the four years 1997-2001 and by the time Stuart Wheeler forced out IDS there was too little time for Michael Howard to make an impact. By the way Nigel: what happened to Dry January?
If Labour get in, you will only be allowed to receive OR give 55% of your assets ( this will effect ALL people with assets between £125,000.00 and £1M)-(just google Labours policy on inheritance tax to see what robbers get up to)
It’s funny how ex leaders of the Conservative party who failed at leadership but when ousted they become very competent MPs
Such a sensible man. Why on earth is he not Prime Minister.
muppet
a truly inspiring genuine politician. Bravo!
Really good helpful interview
Well done Nigel Ian is a true Breixater love you show
What a great interview. His points about China and Russia are 100% .
Politicians should have proved their abilities in commerce before being accepted as a politician. If you’ve not walked the walk…..
This is why I vote conservative, so many good, serious people in the party as opposed to Labour which is just a circus. You have to look quite hard to find competent people in Labour.
they're both as bad as eachother though
The first thing to do with China is to stop the system where by our domestic postal service subsides them in exporting goods to this country...
IDS is a legend and honourable man
mug
Ian is a Top Bloke 👍 He was a good Prime Minister i thought. Well done Nigel for this Top Talking Pints moment. Now we Need You Nigel to Run this Country. You would run circles around the lot of them
mug
He was useless and had to go because he faked his qualifications claiming he
had a degree from the Sorbonne or something.
@@Sabhail_ar_Alba Show me the proof! Link Please.
@@saltney17 is that all you got?
Two of the very best Ian and Nigel if only.
Did he not take part in the assault on Mt Tumbledown with 2 Scots Guards? A very humble and decent guy in my opinion.
Career politicians are the worse things to happen to the UK.
Politicians ‘should’ be public servants…not the case with the majority of those in Westminster.
I think IDS is a decent politician but lacked the personality that was needed to be a leader.On the other hand Boris has got all the charismatic charm but tells you what you want to here then forgets he ever said it.
Sad but true….
All the great 😊 Honest, brave , courageous politicians seem to be ex armed service’s personnel 🇬🇧🇬🇧😎😎
Really good. I like this segment a lot.
My dad got 6 medals too.
Great interview Nigel
We need to bring back all our manufacturing take back our farms and be totally independent on all basic needs.
When do we see Labour MPs. Seems to me its all about Tories.
Was completely with him until the last 90 seconds - we all know Boris has to go, and soon, if his replacement is to establish themselves before the next GE.
Maybe IDS should be in the running for PM ?
Good interview.
Buy some beer mats
I said 30 years ago that China would become a world economy....sadly I have been proven right...it is an awful non -political system and economy due to it being ruled by a dictator whose role model must have been the replica created in the 1930s by a certain German (born in Austria) in 1889.
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Great interview. Big fan of IDS
Nigel an excellent imterviiew. The views on China I agree - l Iงved 14 years there and Taiwan. The root of the problem being that China entered WTO by that character Pascal Lamy.....I know the aftermath of all this that the media has never touched!. No more comment. NIGEL I like your views. Greetings from Codvic Thailand.!
Interestingly enough, I have been reading up on and been watching videos on Iain Duncan Smith as recently as today. It is a convenient coincidence that this “Talking Pints” interview is with IDS
Interestingly the opening remarks by Smith about the then Labour government could be equally valid to the current loathsome morass.
Actually Iain we want a leader who isn’t frightened of the data like Boris...but also we’d like one that in turn doesn’t try to frighten us
Ignorance of the law is not a defence
Ian clearly likes a pint! Good lad
Broken down places in England , what had gone wrong? Politicians!
Why Omit Wales and Scotland along with N.I.? They have their own future largely in their own hands now (something they do not seem to understand).
English Parliament will never happen , also this whole English votes for English matters is absolute nonsense , We should have a real English parliament that does not have any input from that cesspit the House of Lords (just like the other 3 Nations).