While she already IS a good version of herself. Caring, funny, highly intelligent, fighting with her life for who she loves and her people... If she's not good, most of us are coward scum. Silco told her: She's perfect. Seems she forgot or doesn't believe him.
@@S_E_N_S_E_nmannbut we behave like her too. There are people who tell us that we are enough, we are good and our life is worth living, but we ignore them
@S_E_N_S_E_nmann shes a deranged murderer who was so desperate to be useful and not a "jinx" that shes willing to commit crimes, to get validation from her dad. She has constant hallucinations and flashbacks to traumatic events that haunt her. She may ha e good qualities but, nah. This aint a good version of her. You can like her character and still say she didnt turn out great
@@S_E_N_S_E_nmann she did what silco told her to do. She stepped off the limelight as soon as he died. Like...if we're just being cute jinx fans, i get it. I love jinx as a character in arcane and her deranged personality is the whole reason shes my main in LoL even when shes not greatbin the meta. But if were being serious, yea, nah. Shes not a good version of herself. Not even for herself
vi's constant positivity and idealism to the point where it can genuinely be delusional and destructive towards herself and others is one of the most heartbreaking things abt her to me. she was just so desperate.
id say its less constant positivity so much as incredibly strong emotional connection. we did see vi turn against jinx and accept her as a terrorist. but she can't let go of her love for her. she's also a bit stupid unfortunately so she often picks up on stuff a little too late (or misses it entirely lol)
Vi isn’t constantly positive or so idealistic tbf, she’s just really protective, and she holds onto any hope she can because she has to… it’s either that or she kills herself. I mean, the girl has “technically” been through even more trauma than jinx and with absolutely no one to take care of her. And her only true reason to live is protecting other people, in this case, she only had powder left, and when she felt she had failed, she was crushed. Caitlyn was the only person keeping her somewhat above the surface. Then she saw flashes of powder underneath the countless masks and hurts, and she had hope again. And the child who made powder come back was almost immediately destroyed, but vi realised powder was still in there somewhere. So when this hope was taken from her again, she broke. That’s it. She wasn’t naïve or overly optimistic, she just held onto crumbs of hope to survive.
Sure but in the end, Jinx proved Vi right by coming back and using her technical abilities to help everyone. Jinx was wrong to say there wasnt a good version of her because Ekko literally got to see it, and also manages to convince her to try doing good for once, which is exactly what she did in the end.
I find it quite good that Silco makes his return as a hallucination, but her vision of her never blames her. He gives her counsel, up to her what to make of it, but he remains as she remembers his memory. Not like her other hallucinations that only reinforced her guilt. But her father who told her not to cry, even as he was dying between her hands he said she was perfect. I like that detail.
I just realized now, but Silko is the only one of the ghosts who appears next to her not distorted. How much she loved and respected him. Silko cannot be called a good man, his path can be described by the phrase "The duty of a revolutionary is to make a revolution at any cost," but at some point Jinx turned from an instrument of revolution into the person closest to him. They are somewhat similar: both were betrayed and abandoned, both rose from the bottom, and both continued to live in the past. But unlike Jinx, Silko could not just leave, he had been collecting, subjugating and driving chemical barons into a rigid framework for many years, and as soon as he showed weakness, applicants for his place immediately appeared. So, in my opinion, Silko gave Jinx a wonderful school of life, preparing her, probably, for everything that he knew himself.
@@StopMeOh Not necessarily. He said the cycle only ends when you walk away. It’s up to interpretation, in her case she’s grieving and depressed so naturally she takes it that way. But ultimately she takes that advice another way by the end. That’s the genius of ambiguity when it’s worked into something your own fractured psyche is trying to tell you.
@@rustkarl But see, it was her own voice all along. It's impossible for her to suggest to herself that cycle needs to end and leave it up for interpretation because Silco was not there, it was her own voice all along so if she told herself a cycle needs to end and she decided to end her own life, it means she covered the guidance to kill herself under Silco's apparent voice. It's pretty dark that she sneaked in an advice to end her life and it was Silco telling her that, it means she saw him as someone capable of that.
@@StopMeOh It would be if Jinx wasn’t established to have psychosis or if things like depression didn’t exist to alter our perceptions. Her own mind is telling her that realisation, how she takes it is up to her. Our minds and our thoughts, or consciousness and subconscious are not always attuned, at times they can be contradictory.
The way Jinx tells Vi that she shouldn’t feel guilty about being happy and to be with Caitlyn is kind of a beautiful full circle moment. Both Jinx and Caitlyn wanted Vi to choose them over the other. But in the end, because they both want Vi be happy, they encourage Vi to choose the other over themselves. Caitlyn making sure Vi could escape with Jinx, while Jinx made sure that Vi would stay with Caitlyn. The parallels between the two over the series is insane.
Yeah it's why Vi was finally able to be with Cait the way she did you know being all happy and gooey like and not giving a shit about Cait seeing someone lol, cause she finally felt like a huge burden came off of her. I mean you could see that when ever she was around Caitlyn you can tell while she loves her there was always something holding her back, like there was always this feeling of sadness and guilt while whenever she was around Jynx you could also see guilt but also helplessness a feeling of "she wishes she could reach her", telling herself that she is the terroist that everyone says she is. She was always caught between the two feeling she owes Cait for what happened to her mother and feeling like she is responsible for the things Jynx has done like killing Cait's mother. I truly don't even think she really wanted to kill Jynx but just wanted to stop her, it's why she used Isha as excuse for not finishing Jynx off. I know some people have a problem with the prison sex scene but like where the hell was Vi gonna go when Jynx locked her up. If it was me I would feel like an idiot too, I mean here I was trying to help get this person out of jail and they use that moment to trick me and lock me up in their space. Also who knew how long Vi was locked up for, so many things happened before that moment, Jynx could have already killed herself or had planned another attack. Really where was Vi gonna go lol. So in Vi's head Jynx betrayed her but also gave her, her blessing about Cait lol and then Cait made her even more happy by saying she allowed her to free her sister minus the whole she probably didn't expect to see her being locked up in there instead lol. They both chose for her by letting go of their hatred for one another.
@@ashtonhooseria It's precisely because Jinx hears Silco's words in her mind that things went wrong for her. In the other universe, things are fine because Silco went back and didn't run away, finding Vander's letter. To resolve the situation they are in, the two sisters should stay together, just like they did for Vander.
A few things: First...both Jinx's hair ties and the straps from her shirt have been taken. The guards knew what she wanted to do to herself and took away the means. Second, the fact that Jinx says that there's no good version of her proves that she is a good version of her. The fact that she considers what she's done not to be good, and that she sees herself in a negative light, proves that she's not beyond hope. If she recognizes that what she's done is wrong, and she's not happy about it (which she clearly isn't), then she can change.
I just realized that Jinx spitting out round orb(cycle) and it not landing on the floor is foreshadowing of her surviving the fall in the ending and thus walking away from the cycle, Silco talked about.
Hmm, interesting take, you may be right. I don't buy that Jinx is dead, there are just too many deliberate hints. I think that Vander may have saved her in the end. I thought all of his memories were burned away but, to me, that flashback scene when he and Jinx are falling seems to indicate he was remembering it. The only way Jinx could have made it out was if he had released his grip on her and maybe he detonated the grenade himself once she was away from him. This monkey grenade didn't have a timer, it was one that blew instantly. On top of that, it'd just be really shitty. Isha saves Jinx, Ekko literally reverses 5 suicide attempts by Jinx just so she dies anyway at the end? Again, not buying it.
An analysis I saw pointed out that Jinx got the wrong idea about this advice. Killing is killing, even when it's yourself. By committing suicide, Jinx was just making herself a permanent part of the cycle. To break the cycle, she had to accept a second chance.
How the leitmotif of the hopeful singing that was blared when they first had that moment on the roof when Vi talks about her explosive potential, gets me everytime.
I hope your save jinx. I hope you find your way back to ekko and vi. You belong there. A place of love and peace with everything. Shes such a great character, even if i just realised it towards the end of the seasons. She deserves so much more. And i hope she finds it no matter if its like i Imagine it, or just in a different way. But for me, ekko and jinx deserve eachother. I wish i could see what happend off screen with thouse 2 before the last fight, building thouse thinks and painting eachother mirrored like the alt univers. This story brakes my heart everytime i see it. Well done its a true masterpiece of art
It's too bad Jinx could never live happily in Piltover or Zaun anymore. Ekko deserved better, but I understand why she left alone. All we can hope is that she'll at least return to him one day.
But Jinx "dies" (questionable) by saving her sister. She also helped to save Piltover from Noxus and Arcane (even though Ekko did the main part). She also tried to get Vander back, united the Undercity at some point. Jinx has done crimes but still kinda redeemed herself
Her saving Piltover should have wiped the slate clean to be honest. If Jinx and Ekko didn’t pull up with Zaun, Piltover would have been destroyed not to mention the war started because of Piltover and Caitlyn
@@empressx834 When Ambessa was done with Piltover, Zaun would have been next. And the war was not started because of Caitlyn and Piltover. Ambessa was waging a war against them since season 1, but no one in Piltover knew it at the time. Things escalated with the attack on the memorial service by Renni in Season 2 and it was set up by Ambessa. sm
@@empressx834 In a just world maybe. But the show has gone to great lengths to say that this world isn’t a kind or fair one. Jinx would be a figure of hate in Piltover and a symbol of revolution in Zaun, that differing opinion of her would cause the fragile concessions to collapse if Piltover was allowed to judge her as they would almost certainly do. Zaun would fight to defend its own, Piltover would lash out again. Another pound of flesh taken from Zaun to sate the topside. And so the cycle would begin again.
Everyone talks but Ekko saving the world and saving jinx but can we talk about how he also saved these sisters relationship. I mean by bringing jinx to the fight with him and allowing her and Vi to fight fixed there sisterhood. Ekkos just the goat man like damn
There’s something so haunting about the way Jinx keeps her eyes locked on Vi as she backs away. She wants to die. She intends to end the cycle that very day and knows this will be the last time she ever sees her sister. There’s so much history between them, so many things left unsaid, but as she before she leaves to end it all, she chooses to look at Vi for as long as she can with nothing but love in her eyes, telling her it’s alright to choose her happiness over her doomed sister.
@@angel-san5161 No one said she doesn’t deserve a break,it’s just very inappropriate timing and out-of-place for Vi,this is more of a producer’s mistake though,imagine ur sister telling you she’s gonna commit sewer side and you proceed to make love with ur partner completely dismissing her,doesn’t seem so nice now is it? But then again no one’s really shedding light on this because they’re too busy enjoying the Caitvi scene
@@Mizu-xoexactly it was so forced, Violet was literally crying and punching walls and all of that emotion immediately was disregarded into a scene which sole purpose was fan service. There was only one other scene like that in the series and it not only wasn’t as long but it didn’t show all that unnecessary stuff and it was mixed with another scene that actually added something to the plot. It’s crazy how they cut so many meaningful scene yet for some reason that specific one made the cut.
Hated that scene so much I’ve got into so many debates with people trying to justify that love scene and dang I’m glad I’m not their sibling some of the excuses they come up with are so ridiculous it is actually hilarious yet so sad
Jinx is really impressionable by whomever she latches onto. She reflects that other person. She was sweet with Vi as a child. Silco turned her into a monster who killed without remorse. Once he’s dead and she’s around an innocent again - she seems normalish again. Silco was truly a cancer.
@ Jinx telling Vi she wanted to die so many times while under Silco’s “care” doesn’t really back that up. It helped Silco. Not Jinx. It’s why he desperately tried to murder Vi once she came back. A threat to his possessive relationship with Jinx.
@@mbovb006 I don't remember, I'm fairly sure of it, Jinx saying to Vi before Silco's death she wanted to die. I remember Jinx telling Vi to abandon Cait. As I said it was a toxic relationship, but Silco also gave Jinx shelter, helped her grow her talents and others things. They possessively needed each other in a moment of difficulty in their lives. Silco is in the wrong being the "parent" in the room with the way he grew Jinx, but he didn't Just exploit her, he tried to raise her as his daughter and sacrified his dream of Zaun for her.
Silco was the man who took it on himself to be her father in the worst time of her life. He was the wrong man in the right place, and that made all the difference. He wasn’t the best thing, he wasn’t the right thing. But he was also the only thing left. And we can see he did try, balancing the emancipation of Zaun with the love of his daughter no matter how screwed up all three of them were. When it came down to it, he was still her father. And we can see that his memory is a guiding voice from her subconscious, it’s just up to her to interpret what it means.
@@rustkarl SIlco literally created that entire event where she needed that. You know the whole murdering his dear friends children because they made Vander soft thing? Stop romanticizing it. Its creep. Once Powder showed hate - he saw potential. Stop being gross.
I'm so happy we got a final Jinx and Silco moment, and how it really parallels to the Season 1 scene of Vander talking to Vi, while she's fighting Sevika at the Last Drop Bar.
It not Jinx disappoint Vi. It Jinx want to end her own life, since the last person she could care Isha is dead. And she don't want to see this happen to Vi, so she suggest Vi to stay with Cupcake.
Where did she get the hex gem crystal. From what I understand there was 1 in her gun that Isha took and 2 from Vi's gauntlets. Was she imagining Silco and the hex gem crystal in her mouth? Where did she get the hex gem crystal that she used in her grenade to blow herself up before Ekko intervened?
Wow, this scene surprised me when Jinx said “You don’t need to feel guilty about being happy. You deserve to be with her.” Oh, now Jinx approves of Vi and Caitlyn’s… wait a second. Was she trying to get them back together exactly where they first met? I think I might’ve just came up with a new theory
The way so many ppl misunderstood this scene and thought Vi knew Jinx was gonna off herself 😭 media illiteracy is dead (like she even tells Caitlyn that she thought Jinx betrayed her and Jinx wasn't gonna to tell her that bc she knew that if she did Vi would have wanted to go after her)
Yeah but what else could Vi think Jinx was gonna do? Jinx is severely depressed but still wished her sister all the best. Vi looked scared but definitely not for herself or Cait. Did Vi just think that Jinx was about to leave everyone?
@@CattyLoveKittenLove Jinx has tricked her before. Vi would think her sister would do some shenanigans to fuck with someone long before she thinks of Jinx commiting sudoku.
@brian0057 maybe but Jinx was not that "goofy maniacal psychopath" anymore. She literally refused to eat, sat there dead inside already. Vi also saw Jinx in panic while Isha was sacrificing herself. And Cait told Vi that Jinx just "surrendered" when being arrested. It just has to speak volumes that Jinx is on the verge of offing herself. Also her "final speech" really sounded like a final speech🥲
Jinx earlier this very same season was welcoming the chance at death (TO VI MIGHT I ADD) even before the Vander/Isha deaths. Then Vi sees Jinx who has exhibited reckless and antisocial behavior, looking absolutely awful, hears her say some ominous ass shit like ‘I’m breaking the cycle” and throws herself a pity party and has sex with Caitlyn. I don’t think it’s a lack of media literacy, I think Vi stans are just having a hard time coping with character assassination.
This is why I say Vi don’t know shit about her sister or straight up don’t care. How can you not interpretation what Jinx said to her as her wanting to off herself. Isha just died and Isha meant the world to Jinx Vi could see that. She gave herself up to the enforcers and wasn’t even responding! The girl took out her braids! The signs are there, Vi just didn’t care to see
So…can someone explain to me why Vi had sex in the cell with Caitlyn? Like I would be worried my sibling would harm themselves after they experienced what jinx did, plus her statement at the end. Idk I just never understood the sex scene there.
Because she understood that Vi and Cait weren't beefing anymore and they both gave her the chance to be with one another. Also it mirrors her prison trauma. From Vi's perspective she doesnt know that her own sister wanted to take her life she just knew that jinx was unpredictable
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Did we watch the same show? The whole point of Vi's character is that she spends all her time fighting for others she can't do something for herself without feeling guilty about it. I can give you a dozen reasons why her desire for Cait always comes second to her sister and why you haven't watched the show clearly. Last episode of s01 : Vi offers Jinx to run away together and never comeback because she believed Powder is still in there. This includes leaving Caitlyn. This does not mean that just because she didn't want to kill someone she loved, that valued she chose Jinx over Cait. S02E06 : when Isha died, Vi was fatally wounded at this point, but she put herself between Isha's blast and Jinx to protect her and continuously tried pulling Jinx out of harms way. S02E08 : Vi went behind Caitlyn's back, to break Jinx out of jail. She was ready to leave everything behind, including Cait. She knew that Cait had a good chance of leaving her for good if she found out she broke Jinx out of jail, but she did it anyway. Obviously we find out later that Caitlyn had let Vi do that which also does lead to them having sex, because this is Vi realizing that Caitlyn putting her love for her over her grief. She did not know this before. And she still went behind her back. So respectfully, you have no right to be spewing bs about Vi stans being defensive, or Vi being selfish because it is simply not true. And any sensible person who have watched the show would know that the entire point of Vi's character is that she is selfLESS. For me, it's sad when for the first time she puts her happiness first, she got hate from many people who completely disregard Vi's wants and needs.
@@blackkitty420 If you actually watched the show, you wouldn't comment like that. Jinx had already told Vi not to worry about her or feel guilty for being happy. Vi simply did what her sister asked.
after seeing episode 7, her saying “there’s no good version of me” is so heartbreaking
While she already IS a good version of herself. Caring, funny, highly intelligent, fighting with her life for who she loves and her people... If she's not good, most of us are coward scum.
Silco told her: She's perfect.
Seems she forgot or doesn't believe him.
@@S_E_N_S_E_nmannbut we behave like her too. There are people who tell us that we are enough, we are good and our life is worth living, but we ignore them
@S_E_N_S_E_nmann shes a deranged murderer who was so desperate to be useful and not a "jinx" that shes willing to commit crimes, to get validation from her dad. She has constant hallucinations and flashbacks to traumatic events that haunt her.
She may ha e good qualities but, nah. This aint a good version of her. You can like her character and still say she didnt turn out great
@rubenruben-ruben6039 Crimes blah; she fought for Zhaun
@@S_E_N_S_E_nmann she did what silco told her to do. She stepped off the limelight as soon as he died. Like...if we're just being cute jinx fans, i get it. I love jinx as a character in arcane and her deranged personality is the whole reason shes my main in LoL even when shes not greatbin the meta. But if were being serious, yea, nah. Shes not a good version of herself. Not even for herself
The fact that Silco is not distorted, not yelling or blaming Jinx. He's being the father she remembers
Because it happens inside her mind. That's what Jinx remembers about Silco
@@cuongtranmanh3794 He would never hurt her. Not even as a figment of her mind
dont make me cry
vi's constant positivity and idealism to the point where it can genuinely be delusional and destructive towards herself and others is one of the most heartbreaking things abt her to me. she was just so desperate.
it’s so sad i love her so much
id say its less constant positivity so much as incredibly strong emotional connection. we did see vi turn against jinx and accept her as a terrorist. but she can't let go of her love for her. she's also a bit stupid unfortunately so she often picks up on stuff a little too late (or misses it entirely lol)
Vi isn’t constantly positive or so idealistic tbf, she’s just really protective, and she holds onto any hope she can because she has to… it’s either that or she kills herself. I mean, the girl has “technically” been through even more trauma than jinx and with absolutely no one to take care of her. And her only true reason to live is protecting other people, in this case, she only had powder left, and when she felt she had failed, she was crushed. Caitlyn was the only person keeping her somewhat above the surface. Then she saw flashes of powder underneath the countless masks and hurts, and she had hope again. And the child who made powder come back was almost immediately destroyed, but vi realised powder was still in there somewhere. So when this hope was taken from her again, she broke. That’s it. She wasn’t naïve or overly optimistic, she just held onto crumbs of hope to survive.
Sure but in the end, Jinx proved Vi right by coming back and using her technical abilities to help everyone. Jinx was wrong to say there wasnt a good version of her because Ekko literally got to see it, and also manages to convince her to try doing good for once, which is exactly what she did in the end.
She blames herself for what happened to powder
I find it quite good that Silco makes his return as a hallucination, but her vision of her never blames her.
He gives her counsel, up to her what to make of it, but he remains as she remembers his memory. Not like her other hallucinations that only reinforced her guilt.
But her father who told her not to cry, even as he was dying between her hands he said she was perfect. I like that detail.
I just realized now, but Silko is the only one of the ghosts who appears next to her not distorted. How much she loved and respected him. Silko cannot be called a good man, his path can be described by the phrase "The duty of a revolutionary is to make a revolution at any cost," but at some point Jinx turned from an instrument of revolution into the person closest to him. They are somewhat similar: both were betrayed and abandoned, both rose from the bottom, and both continued to live in the past. But unlike Jinx, Silko could not just leave, he had been collecting, subjugating and driving chemical barons into a rigid framework for many years, and as soon as he showed weakness, applicants for his place immediately appeared. So, in my opinion, Silko gave Jinx a wonderful school of life, preparing her, probably, for everything that he knew himself.
He did suggest that she ends her own life though, I really am not sure if this is a positive image of him that she kept.
@@StopMeOh
Not necessarily.
He said the cycle only ends when you walk away. It’s up to interpretation, in her case she’s grieving and depressed so naturally she takes it that way. But ultimately she takes that advice another way by the end. That’s the genius of ambiguity when it’s worked into something your own fractured psyche is trying to tell you.
@@rustkarl But see, it was her own voice all along. It's impossible for her to suggest to herself that cycle needs to end and leave it up for interpretation because Silco was not there, it was her own voice all along so if she told herself a cycle needs to end and she decided to end her own life, it means she covered the guidance to kill herself under Silco's apparent voice. It's pretty dark that she sneaked in an advice to end her life and it was Silco telling her that, it means she saw him as someone capable of that.
@@StopMeOh
It would be if Jinx wasn’t established to have psychosis or if things like depression didn’t exist to alter our perceptions.
Her own mind is telling her that realisation, how she takes it is up to her.
Our minds and our thoughts, or consciousness and subconscious are not always attuned, at times they can be contradictory.
1:26 when Vi calls her sister Jinx in this scene I like to think it’s Vi finally accepting her sister for who she is
Noticed that. She didn't call her Powder anymore but still couldn't call her Jinx before until this
@@joseluis5055 there was one time she called her Jinx, in episode 3, right before their fight
It is. Vi accepted this version of her sister, and still love her anyway
She called her Jinx for the whole season 2, she accepted Powder was gone at the end of season 1
The way Jinx tells Vi that she shouldn’t feel guilty about being happy and to be with Caitlyn is kind of a beautiful full circle moment. Both Jinx and Caitlyn wanted Vi to choose them over the other. But in the end, because they both want Vi be happy, they encourage Vi to choose the other over themselves. Caitlyn making sure Vi could escape with Jinx, while Jinx made sure that Vi would stay with Caitlyn. The parallels between the two over the series is insane.
Yeah it's why Vi was finally able to be with Cait the way she did you know being all happy and gooey like and not giving a shit about Cait seeing someone lol, cause she finally felt like a huge burden came off of her. I mean you could see that when ever she was around Caitlyn you can tell while she loves her there was always something holding her back, like there was always this feeling of sadness and guilt while whenever she was around Jynx you could also see guilt but also helplessness a feeling of "she wishes she could reach her", telling herself that she is the terroist that everyone says she is. She was always caught between the two feeling she owes Cait for what happened to her mother and feeling like she is responsible for the things Jynx has done like killing Cait's mother. I truly don't even think she really wanted to kill Jynx but just wanted to stop her, it's why she used Isha as excuse for not finishing Jynx off.
I know some people have a problem with the prison sex scene but like where the hell was Vi gonna go when Jynx locked her up. If it was me I would feel like an idiot too, I mean here I was trying to help get this person out of jail and they use that moment to trick me and lock me up in their space. Also who knew how long Vi was locked up for, so many things happened before that moment, Jynx could have already killed herself or had planned another attack. Really where was Vi gonna go lol. So in Vi's head Jynx betrayed her but also gave her, her blessing about Cait lol and then Cait made her even more happy by saying she allowed her to free her sister minus the whole she probably didn't expect to see her being locked up in there instead lol. They both chose for her by letting go of their hatred for one another.
Jinx was Silco's last chance, and Isha was Jinx's last chance. but sadly Jinx lost them both, she truly deserves better.
To think all this could have been avoided if powder stayed tf home
Jinx has her happy ending. Thanks to ghost Silco telling her to walk away!
@@ashtonhooseria It's precisely because Jinx hears Silco's words in her mind that things went wrong for her.
In the other universe, things are fine because Silco went back and didn't run away, finding Vander's letter.
To resolve the situation they are in, the two sisters should stay together, just like they did for Vander.
Isha was Jinx’s last chance, until Ekko came out of left field to give her another shot. Guess that’s kinda his thing
@@TheRedWolf43 Jinx sacrifices herself in the end anyway.
When Vi hugs Jinx here, man, this part of the music is soul-crushing. 1:53.
The songs in the soundtrack are obviously amazing, but the original score is extremely underrated
@@b.d6642Very true.
A few things:
First...both Jinx's hair ties and the straps from her shirt have been taken. The guards knew what she wanted to do to herself and took away the means.
Second, the fact that Jinx says that there's no good version of her proves that she is a good version of her. The fact that she considers what she's done not to be good, and that she sees herself in a negative light, proves that she's not beyond hope. If she recognizes that what she's done is wrong, and she's not happy about it (which she clearly isn't), then she can change.
I love this comment
i think the guards taking away those stuff is standard procedure
But Isn't her hair long enough to strangle herself?
OK weird thought sorry😅
Jinx lost everything when Isha died. 😢
Not everything. Boy savior to the rescue.
“Is there anything so undoing as a daughter”
no, she still had vi and ekko and sevika
@ I’m not a parent, but I’m pretty sure losing my kid would feel pretty close to losing everything.
@@kacinema96 fair enough. im not diminishing the pain she felt losing isha but she did have more people
I just realized that Jinx spitting out round orb(cycle) and it not landing on the floor is foreshadowing of her surviving the fall in the ending and thus walking away from the cycle, Silco talked about.
Wait u might be onto something
Hmm, interesting take, you may be right. I don't buy that Jinx is dead, there are just too many deliberate hints. I think that Vander may have saved her in the end. I thought all of his memories were burned away but, to me, that flashback scene when he and Jinx are falling seems to indicate he was remembering it. The only way Jinx could have made it out was if he had released his grip on her and maybe he detonated the grenade himself once she was away from him. This monkey grenade didn't have a timer, it was one that blew instantly. On top of that, it'd just be really shitty. Isha saves Jinx, Ekko literally reverses 5 suicide attempts by Jinx just so she dies anyway at the end? Again, not buying it.
Jinx just gave Vi her blessing to go out with Cait. 😅
Vi qui a vraiment rien compris que ça sœur aller se suicider
And she did 😳
Powder's mental state compared to Jinx is actually insane she's so healthy and it's just nice to see
An analysis I saw pointed out that Jinx got the wrong idea about this advice. Killing is killing, even when it's yourself. By committing suicide, Jinx was just making herself a permanent part of the cycle. To break the cycle, she had to accept a second chance.
Silco's voice is so pleasant...I am happy to see him and listen his percutant lines
2:00 is the last time they hugged.
Too bad Jinx did not return the hug...
They should have had one more in the finale. 😢
@@Rakiael07 i wonder if jinx regretted it
How the leitmotif of the hopeful singing that was blared when they first had that moment on the roof when Vi talks about her explosive potential, gets me everytime.
I hope your save jinx. I hope you find your way back to ekko and vi. You belong there. A place of love and peace with everything. Shes such a great character, even if i just realised it towards the end of the seasons. She deserves so much more. And i hope she finds it no matter if its like i Imagine it, or just in a different way. But for me, ekko and jinx deserve eachother. I wish i could see what happend off screen with thouse 2 before the last fight, building thouse thinks and painting eachother mirrored like the alt univers. This story brakes my heart everytime i see it. Well done its a true masterpiece of art
It's too bad Jinx could never live happily in Piltover or Zaun anymore. Ekko deserved better, but I understand why she left alone. All we can hope is that she'll at least return to him one day.
A dead Silco seeing Jinx reminded me of when a dead Ra's Al Ghul visited Batman in prison in the Dark Knight Rises.
Perhaps a little. But their presence mean very different things.
Yeah and Arcane's ending reminded me of when Batman made everyone think he was dead so that he could have a new life.
The fact conversation with Silco happen all inside Jinx's mind shows how wise she is now ❤
No no Jinx, you are perfect! 😔
Vi doesn't understand that Jinx is already marked for death. No amount of good she does will pardon her or erase her crimes.
But Jinx "dies" (questionable) by saving her sister. She also helped to save Piltover from Noxus and Arcane (even though Ekko did the main part). She also tried to get Vander back, united the Undercity at some point. Jinx has done crimes but still kinda redeemed herself
Her saving Piltover should have wiped the slate clean to be honest. If Jinx and Ekko didn’t pull up with Zaun, Piltover would have been destroyed not to mention the war started because of Piltover and Caitlyn
@@empressx834 When Ambessa was done with Piltover, Zaun would have been next. And the war was not started because of Caitlyn and Piltover. Ambessa was waging a war against them since season 1, but no one in Piltover knew it at the time. Things escalated with the attack on the memorial service by Renni in Season 2 and it was set up by Ambessa. sm
I dont think thats the conclusion the writers were trying to tell in this scene
@@empressx834
In a just world maybe.
But the show has gone to great lengths to say that this world isn’t a kind or fair one.
Jinx would be a figure of hate in Piltover and a symbol of revolution in Zaun, that differing opinion of her would cause the fragile concessions to collapse if Piltover was allowed to judge her as they would almost certainly do.
Zaun would fight to defend its own, Piltover would lash out again. Another pound of flesh taken from Zaun to sate the topside.
And so the cycle would begin again.
Everyone talks but Ekko saving the world and saving jinx but can we talk about how he also saved these sisters relationship. I mean by bringing jinx to the fight with him and allowing her and Vi to fight fixed there sisterhood. Ekkos just the goat man like damn
She decided to leave everyone after the Battle for she can begin her journey to reborn far from home
Disappointing vi is an understatement
Hes actually completely right, especially about the self imprisonment part
You know it’s really bad when the pigtails are gone💔
Vi: I swiped these from the guard station.
Jinx: That's nice.
Isha was the last one she truly loved, losing her really broke her… until our Boy Savior came to give her one last hope.
There’s something so haunting about the way Jinx keeps her eyes locked on Vi as she backs away. She wants to die. She intends to end the cycle that very day and knows this will be the last time she ever sees her sister. There’s so much history between them, so many things left unsaid, but as she before she leaves to end it all, she chooses to look at Vi for as long as she can with nothing but love in her eyes, telling her it’s alright to choose her happiness over her doomed sister.
Oh dear Jinx, you deserve a happy ending.
She did! You wouldn't understand but she is at the airballon at the end of season 2 leaving Piltover and Zaun.
Well she sure did by breaking the cycle and leaving,to the audience it was somewhat a sad ending but for her it was peaceful
@@Mizu-xoitsa bittersweet ending for me tho 😢❤, but i hope that under some chances they will meet again
After watching chapter 7, how Jinx (Powder) is happy and cheerful in her universe, and now in this chapter (8) she is totally emotionally destroyed
Isha was the last good thing she felt
The older sister Vi then proceeded to have sesbian lex while the younger sister attempted to off herself
😢 aw come on, Vi deserves a break too, she almost lost everyone...
@@angel-san5161 No one said she doesn’t deserve a break,it’s just very inappropriate timing and out-of-place for Vi,this is more of a producer’s mistake though,imagine ur sister telling you she’s gonna commit sewer side and you proceed to make love with ur partner completely dismissing her,doesn’t seem so nice now is it? But then again no one’s really shedding light on this because they’re too busy enjoying the Caitvi scene
@@Mizu-xotout a fait d'accord vi a vraiment merder avec ça sœur la
@@Mizu-xoexactly it was so forced, Violet was literally crying and punching walls and all of that emotion immediately was disregarded into a scene which sole purpose was fan service. There was only one other scene like that in the series and it not only wasn’t as long but it didn’t show all that unnecessary stuff and it was mixed with another scene that actually added something to the plot. It’s crazy how they cut so many meaningful scene yet for some reason that specific one made the cut.
Hated that scene so
much I’ve got into so many debates with people trying to justify that love scene and dang I’m glad I’m not their sibling some of the excuses they come up with are so ridiculous it is actually hilarious yet so sad
😢😢😢😢
Jinx is really impressionable by whomever she latches onto. She reflects that other person. She was sweet with Vi as a child. Silco turned her into a monster who killed without remorse. Once he’s dead and she’s around an innocent again - she seems normalish again. Silco was truly a cancer.
To an extent yes, that relationship was toxic, but in some ways helped both of them.
@ Jinx telling Vi she wanted to die so many times while under Silco’s “care” doesn’t really back that up. It helped Silco. Not Jinx. It’s why he desperately tried to murder Vi once she came back. A threat to his possessive relationship with Jinx.
@@mbovb006 I don't remember, I'm fairly sure of it, Jinx saying to Vi before Silco's death she wanted to die.
I remember Jinx telling Vi to abandon Cait.
As I said it was a toxic relationship, but Silco also gave Jinx shelter, helped her grow her talents and others things.
They possessively needed each other in a moment of difficulty in their lives.
Silco is in the wrong being the "parent" in the room with the way he grew Jinx, but he didn't Just exploit her, he tried to raise her as his daughter and sacrified his dream of Zaun for her.
Silco was the man who took it on himself to be her father in the worst time of her life.
He was the wrong man in the right place, and that made all the difference.
He wasn’t the best thing, he wasn’t the right thing. But he was also the only thing left.
And we can see he did try, balancing the emancipation of Zaun with the love of his daughter no matter how screwed up all three of them were.
When it came down to it, he was still her father. And we can see that his memory is a guiding voice from her subconscious, it’s just up to her to interpret what it means.
@@rustkarl SIlco literally created that entire event where she needed that. You know the whole murdering his dear friends children because they made Vander soft thing? Stop romanticizing it. Its creep. Once Powder showed hate - he saw potential. Stop being gross.
I'm so happy we got a final Jinx and Silco moment, and how it really parallels to the Season 1 scene of Vander talking to Vi, while she's fighting Sevika at the Last Drop Bar.
Very few people pay attention to what Silco says here... But damn I sympathize with it. Smart as always.
is ir just me, or is Jinx skin color getting warmer tone as the season gos on??
It not Jinx disappoint Vi. It Jinx want to end her own life, since the last person she could care Isha is dead. And she don't want to see this happen to Vi, so she suggest Vi to stay with Cupcake.
Where did she get the hex gem crystal. From what I understand there was 1 in her gun that Isha took and 2 from Vi's gauntlets. Was she imagining Silco and the hex gem crystal in her mouth?
Where did she get the hex gem crystal that she used in her grenade to blow herself up before Ekko intervened?
This just woah
Did jinx actually spit out the hex crystal because it never fell in her hand
It was never there. Just a hallucination
Wow, this scene surprised me when Jinx said “You don’t need to feel guilty about being happy. You deserve to be with her.” Oh, now Jinx approves of Vi and Caitlyn’s… wait a second. Was she trying to get them back together exactly where they first met? I think I might’ve just came up with a new theory
and five minutes later.....
Jinx looks sad 😢😢😢
How her finger was bleeding.....
Annee 2000. Pour Netflix. Pas récent. 😅😅😅
THERE'S NO GOOD VERSION OF ME😢
The way so many ppl misunderstood this scene and thought Vi knew Jinx was gonna off herself 😭 media illiteracy is dead
(like she even tells Caitlyn that she thought Jinx betrayed her and Jinx wasn't gonna to tell her that bc she knew that if she did Vi would have wanted to go after her)
Yeah but what else could Vi think Jinx was gonna do? Jinx is severely depressed but still wished her sister all the best. Vi looked scared but definitely not for herself or Cait. Did Vi just think that Jinx was about to leave everyone?
@@CattyLoveKittenLove
Jinx has tricked her before. Vi would think her sister would do some shenanigans to fuck with someone long before she thinks of Jinx commiting sudoku.
@brian0057 maybe but Jinx was not that "goofy maniacal psychopath" anymore. She literally refused to eat, sat there dead inside already. Vi also saw Jinx in panic while Isha was sacrificing herself. And Cait told Vi that Jinx just "surrendered" when being arrested. It just has to speak volumes that Jinx is on the verge of offing herself. Also her "final speech" really sounded like a final speech🥲
Jinx earlier this very same season was welcoming the chance at death (TO VI MIGHT I ADD) even before the Vander/Isha deaths. Then Vi sees Jinx who has exhibited reckless and antisocial behavior, looking absolutely awful, hears her say some ominous ass shit like ‘I’m breaking the cycle” and throws herself a pity party and has sex with Caitlyn. I don’t think it’s a lack of media literacy, I think Vi stans are just having a hard time coping with character assassination.
This is why I say Vi don’t know shit about her sister or straight up don’t care. How can you not interpretation what Jinx said to her as her wanting to off herself. Isha just died and Isha meant the world to Jinx Vi could see that. She gave herself up to the enforcers and wasn’t even responding! The girl took out her braids! The signs are there, Vi just didn’t care to see
super sad scene is then immediately ruined a minute later by vi going down on cait
Real
So…can someone explain to me why Vi had sex in the cell with Caitlyn? Like I would be worried my sibling would harm themselves after they experienced what jinx did, plus her statement at the end. Idk I just never understood the sex scene there.
Some say that scene was there only for the shipping and the fandom
Because she understood that Vi and Cait weren't beefing anymore and they both gave her the chance to be with one another. Also it mirrors her prison trauma. From Vi's perspective she doesnt know that her own sister wanted to take her life she just knew that jinx was unpredictable
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Vi did that to herself.
Vi did what? Trying to be a good sister and help jinx out?
As she always does
Did we watch the same show?
The whole point of Vi's character is that she spends all her time fighting for others she can't do something for herself without feeling guilty about it.
I can give you a dozen reasons why her desire for Cait always comes second to her sister and why you haven't watched the show clearly.
Last episode of s01 : Vi offers Jinx to run away together and never comeback because she believed Powder is still in there. This includes leaving Caitlyn. This does not mean that just because she didn't want to kill someone she loved, that valued she chose Jinx over Cait.
S02E06 : when Isha died, Vi was fatally wounded at this point, but she put herself between Isha's blast and Jinx to protect her and continuously tried pulling Jinx out of harms way.
S02E08 : Vi went behind Caitlyn's back, to break Jinx out of jail. She was ready to leave everything behind, including Cait. She knew that Cait had a good chance of leaving her for good if she found out she broke Jinx out of jail, but she did it anyway. Obviously we find out later that Caitlyn had let Vi do that which also does lead to them having sex, because this is Vi realizing that Caitlyn putting her love for her over her grief. She did not know this before. And she still went behind her back.
So respectfully, you have no right to be spewing bs about Vi stans being defensive, or Vi being selfish because it is simply not true. And any sensible person who have watched the show would know that the entire point of Vi's character is that she is selfLESS.
For me, it's sad when for the first time she puts her happiness first, she got hate from many people who completely disregard Vi's wants and needs.
y'all better leave Vi alone...
2:18 What is this garbage I heard from Jinx?
But she didn’t recite any of your posts….
@@av799 Bro, you read it and you are a real person and not a fictional cartoon character and I am addressing my words to RUclips users and Netflix
She said : Caitvi forever
@@Whoswhos12 What is this 🤮 I heard from You ?
That one sentance is a crime worse than all of her crimes together.
*And then came the sesbian lex.*
The most out of place sex scene I haver ever seen on a show.
@@blackkitty420 If you actually watched the show, you wouldn't comment like that. Jinx had already told Vi not to worry about her or feel guilty for being happy. Vi simply did what her sister asked.
@@blackkitty420 maybe try watching it again but with your eyes open this time
Legit FREAKS a jail cell is crazy
In the same place they met in a dirty jail cell