Eloy Casagrande VS El Estepario Siberiano (Heretic Anthem Cover)
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I love that Estepario doesnt need much of a kit to do incredible stuff.
Note: At Eloy's performance, there are only ONE mic up his head.
El Estepario Siberiano is the second best drummer whose name starts with "El"
Jajajajajaj good one...
I think this would have sounded better for El Est if he had more kit for more sound options.
Horrível com todo o respeito
In my mind, both drummers have taught themselves their particular styles, so putting one up against another is a futile venture.
@paulmarker5689 I agree. They are both masters of their craft!👊
The Siberian Steppe is still in its infancy, compared to Eloy, The Steppe plays with 5 pieces of drums less, obviously Eloy is better and knows how to do the job as it should be.
What’s crazy is El Estepario does all of this on a 3 pice kit. He’s insane. Eloy is a monster!! He plays so hard, fast, and accurate.
El Estepario Siberiano doesn't let the music breathe. I have the feeling that he exaggerates with so many unnecessary double pedal notes
My thoughts are the same. He overdid the double bass just a little too much…
@@gokudesenho715 Same... he sounds too robotic imo
@@gokudesenho715 pienso que cuando el estepario toca acompañado a diversos músico se comporta muy cuidadoso con no sobrecargar la música con sus rellenos, cuando hace videos en solitario es cuando pone un extra en los feels y redobles rápidos para impresionar aún así es sobresaliente su talento,
@@cristobalreyessau202 É isso mesmo. Os vídeos para RUclips têm que ser exagerados para chamar a atenção da molecada. É assim que ele ganha dinheiro, e talvez bem mais que o Eloy. 😅
@@gokudesenho715 you cannot judge him like a drummer in a band because he is youtuber and in this role he only want to be viral showing his skills. Thats why he has this sound to compressed. Check his band The Cost or his work in Saratoga and you will find how he sounds totally different.
stepario sounds like a robot, not in a good way, eloy on the other hand is so groovy
That 1st guy was just raw power El Estepario it's all technique and relaxation
Love both but stepario is less musical to me. He sounds a bit like a machine sound.
As i always say and Estepario fans freak out when they hear it: Eloy is much more musical than Estepario, he adds little/short grooves with the double kick in some parts of the songs, on this song Eloy mimics the "six, six, six" on the crash cymbal...etc while Estepario sounds too robotic like he's playing just a straight beat with no dynamics. It sounds like those drum programs for PC you put a song file on and the drums play the song by itself.😂 (im a guitarist btw)
Look the difference in groove:
Eloy: 11:21 - 11:41
Estepario: 21:15 - 21:35
Agreed. Eloy also has a lot of background in latin jazz and that adds to his creativity. Siberiano is a great drummer no doubt but hes just not quite as improv creative. Basically, (this will prob anger the Siberiano fans but 🤷♂️) Eloy is a musician, Siberiano is a drummer. Both great but the creativity and improv ability is the difference.
As a drummer myself though I do like Siberiano's drum setup more. I try to keep my set minimal and low sitting.
Disagree. Eloy is great, el is exceptional. Watch his Blinding Lights cover. Eloy would not have the metal capacity to do that
Those drum sets are not paid enough
Eloy é muito bom. A precisão, velocidade e pegada desse cara é muito foda.
two beasts man no doubt
weird thought.... Eloys Trash roots shines through to me and colour it with a Roughness....Estepario, i get a more of a Death core Vibe (Small) shining through, he is Damn Clean in his sound
The version of Stepario sounded good for me, there are some fills that haven't sounded so good but in general it's a wonderful interpretation of Eloy's work on that song. BTW I've really liked the cowbell. For me this version is not so intense as Eloy's but it's very well performed By El Stepario Siberiano.
The fact that Estepanio can play with one hand and effortlessly is just another level
Eloy e muito mais musical não é apenas técnica mas ter musicalidade muito melhor o Eloy.
Very sharp react! I totally agree!
Put the same audio capture conditions in place, and you'll see that the estapario playing live wouldn't have anywhere near the quality of the eloy.
This is evident from the way he plays the double bass drums, how the sound comes out, and how exhausted he is in those controlled conditions.
El Estepario is one of the percussion kings! He makes it look easy and effortless, when it’s complex.
Clown told Eloy that he was the only one to accurately execute the speed details of this song, not to mention the different capitation conditions of the two drummers
O estepario fez isso pra homenagear o eloy.. po, nao tem comparacao com o eloy. Ces tinham é que reconhecer que o El estepario é foda e nao comparar com o Eloy. Maior sacanagem no mundo da bateria é comparar alguem com o eloy.
Estepario no necesita tanto plato para hacer cosas asombrosas. Si vamos a comparar....nahhhh🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mrbuenrollo448 é por isso que Eloy consegue fazer o refrão six six six no prato e o Stepario não. Essa é só um dos 20 detalhes para quem valoriza além de velocidade, musicalidade kkkkkkk Sou fã do Stepario, mas comparar com Eloy não é justo
Eloy took them drums to Pound Town 😂
In my opinion they cannot be compared. 1- Eloy is a professional drummer when he records that cover. He is more faithful to the original because RUclips is just a means to reach audiences who would not see him at concerts. 2- At the end of the Estepario video there is already a link to another whose title is Eloy Casagrande the best metal drummer. In addition, he does depend on RUclips and is dedicated to giving more spectacle, changing parts of the original song
Both are great at the craft. Eloy's just way more organic and groovy. He also feels heavier. Estepario feels a too linear on his chops which are amazing of course. But Eloy's using different subdivisions and groupings. It's just on a diff tier.
Beautiful performance,must appreciate his combination cymbal hits adding the bell definitely puts his own brand on it. Way to go Eloy....
So fun fact el estepario said David diepold is most underrated drummer and wishes he could play like him lol you need to check him out reacting to david
Oh yeah I remember seeing his reaction video to David. Dudes a speed king
El Estepario Siberiano made it look so natural. Eloy looks more tense.
to me the diference is in the groove, that is audible, and the power you can also hear, eloy puts more groove and power to the same song. estepario is flawless no doubt but there is an audible difference in the groove.
Eloy perfeito em cada nota! Sem comparação. Estepario baita batera, mas ao vivo não é o mesmo ...
Honestly Openmindedly and Willingly
Both great difference between styles and kits. No triggers. Eloy is a beast
Love them both. I wonder if the results would be different if Eloy wasn't in slipknot. 🤔🤷♀️
why would him being in slipknot matter at all? I loved slipknot as a kid... i dont really care much for them now. I just thought eloy's version fit the song better. both phenomenal drummers either way.
ELOY 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Estepario's version was kinda sounds less intense and less heavy.
14:48 he also chose to start the double bass so early that it makes the actual double bass solo less impactful and more of just a background noise that kept going.
15:15 he also removed the pauses. same at 15:57. these pauses are like the signature style of this song.
Both are Hadassah where ES walks through with double bass where Tom's are lacking. Both are brilliant.
Estepário overplays a lot of stuff... Great to show off skills, but sometimes it doesn't serve the song he's playing...
el estepario also looks like his kick drums are using triggers, where eloy doesn't
Always said this about him hes quite technical"of course many times practiced n reshot youtbube vids. Hes splendid technically in many ways but his feel n creativity n space is meh. I've heard a lot of better drummers not better but better
Both are 100% badass. No need to bash on either.
They are both masters!! Harsh critiques on either are a ridiculous.
One plays for the music, the other one plays for himself ! I let you find who’s who…
There is a slight difference with Estepario, however still monster status. Would be interesting to hear Casagrande with the music over lay. But still, sick drumming!
Yes Eloy nails it !
Accept that we cannot do this on our own
El mismo Estepario lo dice ,los videos de RUclips los hace para divertir, solo tienes que ver su cara ,Eloy es un gran musico y no pretende nada mas ,así
que por que elegir, da tiempo para disfrutar de estos dos m
Both are incredible, but keep in mind, El Estepario isn't using a complete kit like Eloy is. Of course it's going to sound different. IMO give El Estepario the same kit as Eloy and they'll be on par. Both hard hitters, both have incredible timing.
Eloy 🤘
AMAZING DRUMMER! I just wonder if all that aggression is necessary! I'll just put it down to immersing in the music! Doesn't subtract from his Amazingness though!
El Estepario allday 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
El estepario ONE NOTE siberiano
Eloy Best, Stepario a talent show man
Estepario, has said many time that he thinks eloy is the best in the world right now. Not a fair comparison due to kit size thou
That bar is Microsoft Edge add on.
Eloy is a beast 😮
I think they are equals. I enjoyed both renditions, but have side with El. I feel he did a better job putting the emotion in it.
The answer is……edit first! Sorry, just not interested in hanging out!? Ready for more drums please!
los dos son buenos y lobo anda en un kit incompleto por eso puede sonar un poco diferente ..!
Eloy é gigante. São os dois melhores n minha opinião
But....2 best heavy drummers of The world
Eloy has way more power and and better feel for the music, but that's expected as he's a more experienced drummer. Eloy is just on a higher level. Polished big band metal drummer so naturally his version is sounds more natural and better
Not taking anything away from Estepario of course. His cover is great too, even more thought out and it's so interesting how he adds his own feel to it
I think el esepario Siberia is a better drummer. It's amazing what he does with so little.
Infact that el kill it smoothly...why showing agressive face...but sounds too original... techniques is way to change...hats off to joey for making this fight👀...
El estepario is an amazing drummer, one of the best in this era. but drumming for a Slipknot song, it's Eloy man. Eloy being in Slipknot really got me excited. That excitement left when jay came.
Estapario is the best drummer in the world period.
H.O.W. about now???
One is now the drummer for Slipknot and the other isn't. Nuff said
I prefer El Est performance..so.?
There's a big chance you aren't a musician then... or if you're, you're just beginner not being able to hear the differences in groove and dynamics...
@@user-fl6ul9zs2m it’s cool to prefer whatever performance you want. It wasn’t really a “Eloy is god and ees is TRASH!!” It was just fun to see two of the best drummers in the game (especially on RUclips) going at the same song with different takes.
Eloy so clean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You need to react/review BLINDING LIGHTS by el estepario
Eloy é sem dúvidas o melhor baterista do mundo.
eloy has more power and groove and has that olskool sound from the late 99s early 00s punch in your face sound. The song needs room to breathe slipknot has always had groove joey and paul brought groove to slipknot
No soy un experto en baterias pero el Estepario suena demasiado espeso, si no fuera tan exagerado creo que sonaría mucho mejor. No hay nadie que le diga que exagera demasiado???
100% i already know estepario wins this 1000% of the time. Eloy is good. But el is insane
Eloy is a little better in my opinion but they are both top knoch!
Estepario is the best . He is my master
It’s not important that the screen isn’t full has no bearing on the drumming
Eloy the power purist for the 🏆
He is the next slipknot’s drummer.
Eloy es mil veces mejor que Estepario, soy español. Eloy es una bestia imposible de mejorar.
Top 3 Badasses Extreme drumming , Eloy , El Estepario
casagrande...i'm amazed his cymbals can last through ONE song. great drummer, but he pounds way too hard lol
Eloy The champ. 🫡
Both are fantastic but different styles. It is like with food, people have different taste.
2 great drummers .
Eloy is more brutal.
Im not agree.. EL is more smooth and clean.. both Great drummers!! But he’s transmission from 1 tempo to other is so smooth and fast! Thx for video
Eloy is a beast....but, EL ESTEPARIO.... is his daddy. You really can't get much better than estepario, unless you go for complexity like Thomas Lang with 6 brains going at once...estepario's favorite. Watch estepario react to Thomas langs solo
Listen to his band then listen to an established drummers main band.all i got say. Hes great but. U want a song wrote im picking 100 other dudes at least
Eloy used just one mic, he extract tone from drum
El Estepario is way quicker less.movement. effortless
I feel el estepario’s felt more human
Gogeta SSB
Estepario is an athlete of the music. Great drummer! Over dramatic, a lot of fast fills, nice to watch it. But no power, no respect for the song itself and not that much musical as well.
Eloy Casagrande
IT IS REAL SIMPLE, EL HIMSELF SAYS ELOY IS THEE BEST DRUMMER AND THE NICEST GUY TOO.
Eloy play a lot harder. El Estepario need to start play harder, El Estepario is the second best in the world!
Estepario is a social media drummer, a very, very good one. But eloy is a professional drummer, and we can hear live the parts he play.
It would be cool to encorperate more drummers in ur vids of course no one cares bout sum black metal or jazz dude etc really. Could encorperate some popular names in there tho travis,chad lambardo,lars etc etc. some names people watch n r interesting enough. Crap chad could be better then estapario. Maybe not one handed but
Except in is own band he’s to lax idk. 🤷♂️