Hi @enduranceosokpo6274 The T line is marked at cost £3,950 / $4,995. Sorry, I dont have an electric bike. The Brompton line is very good. In Brazil we are allowed to bring overseas (when traveling by plane) $1.000,00 in goods. Everything above it, we pay taxes. Chech out how it works in your country. Every country has it own tax law. Nice to have you on board!
If you pause the video at 07:31, just beneath where the rear brake cable enters the break caliper you can see a small square-ish tube welded to the rear triangle. As far as I can tell, it's used on the internal gear hubs (IGH) found on other Brompton models. When I quizzed the guy in Covent Garden he said this was for 'an upcoming new feature' or words to that effect but wouldn't say anymore. Anyone have any ideas on what kind of IGH might make sense to put on a titanium/carbon frame? Brompton custom job maybe? Or (I'm fantasising a bit here) a 4-speed Rohloff?!
Hi Samuel Harner Interesting! 🤔 There is a small square-ish tube fix at the same place as the plastic part that drives the hub cable. I'll research about it. Love your comment 👍🏻😊
Hi Samuel Harmer I've asked Brompton Suport and here is part of there answer: - "I appreciate your channel's query about T Line specifications. At the moment, apart from the technical T Line information we shared with you a couple of months ago, we don't have any further additional gearing details for T Line- apologies for that. ... In regards to any additional new features (which includes the possibility of having a wider gear range for the T Line models), this is usually announced with the release of the new Model Year, which happens in November every year. " So we got to wait until November to see if there is something new in Brompton's Bike Touring section. Nice to have you on board!
Hi Syed Husen YESSSS! It is a fantastic and very light bike to ride in the city. And because of titanium and carbon. Much smother. It folds and unfolds much faster. And taking the pedal out makes it easier to carry. Perfect to commute. Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Hi Jose Calixto Vargas The Brompton dealer in Brazil, Ciclo Urbano has only M6E in stock. And they cost around USD$ 3450,00. I'll be making a video explaining the basic difference between P and T line. The T line It's a completely different bike. 150 new components and different desing details. And the P line is the same frame, but new rear titanium frame (wich is the same frame as the T line) It will be a nice video to produce Nice to have you on board!
@@ChrisbyBike If in the future you have time would be interested in your point of view you have a very good eye for details and practically, hope you enjoyed your trip.
@@ChrisbyBike yes seen it , but would like you to test ride the T and P line if you get a chance, looking and test riding may produce two different outcomes . All that glitters is not always gold.
This Saturday I'll post a video with my first ride on a T Line and a first time T Line owner ride. But we do not have any P lines here in Brasil. Hope to see some, on my next trip.
@@ChrisbyBike thanks for your opinion here. That's what I was feeling who's going to be the case. If I get another folding bike I'll probably go for something like a Camp Royale 9 speed and spend the difference of how much more affordable it is upgrading the pedals and a few other big heavy parts to lighten it up and then just save the rest for future modification. Maybe a carbon front wheel, seatpost and handlebars
Hi BrightLightDUN I think only the Brompton's engeniers know all these awnsers. But basically the holes are to save weight and they thought it would look nice. 👍🏻😊
Hi Nora Halkelfs No! Not enough for touring with the Brompton. But it is a great choice for commute. Not having a Hub saves a lot of weight. Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
I had the new P Line which has the same 4 gear system. I replaced the 50T (102 links) chainrings to 56T oval chainrings (106 links) and the ride much better. With the lighter weight 9.89kg , it is great to commute around the city as mentioned by Chris. You still can go up slope with the lower gear.
@@norahalkefs I totally agree! I am nowhere near as strong and athletic as Chris is especially with her dedicated bike training. I walk everywhere and I'm a fair-weather Runner but that's a totally different thing so she thinks it needs more gears it definitely needs more gears! I use five of my gears just riding around town 😆
@@syedhusen have you considered a dual chainring when you're not feeling up to the hills with the big chainring? Brompton Family Time here on RUclips installed the... I can't remember: Ti workshop or H&H dual chainring and you can shift down on the fly onto the lower chainring by just pressing your right toe against the chain as you pedal with your left foot and it drops down onto the smaller chainring. I watched a ton of videos and reviews on this and it seems to be a really good/ easiest option to be able to ride at higher speeds but still not limit yourself from the convenience of hill climbing with significantly lower gears. Edit: looked it up and linked. He used H&H ruclips.net/video/wntOUuYjO-A/видео.html
Great question, Sheila Stallard. They will definitely open a special category just for the T Line, because it is much lighter than original Bromptons , the pedal response is very immediate and it is much more comfortable. So, for sure, it will be a separate category. Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Hi Finn Carl Bomholt Sørensen To lose a padle would be terrible, but they got a point. Once the pedal is removed, the bike is much easier to carry when folded.
Hi Holger Nestmann You are right, the new clamps were inspired by the aftermarket pieces. And they did a great job. Needs less turns to lock and unlock. And the plate stays straight. It is really cool Nice to have you on board!
@@ChrisbyBike Thanks for the warm welcome! Great Videos! I installed the aftermarket ones after a week. I couldnt get used to them spinning all over the place. brilliantbikes fitted the new p/t line ones on a classic brompton. Thats also a great option. Hopefully they bring it down to c and a-line. The old ones are just silly
Hi Holger Nestmann That will be great! They are faster and easier to use. I was going to try that, but a new Brompton T line arrived to pick up his bike and let me ride along for his first ride. So I forgot to do it. Great to know that 👍🏻😊👍🏻👍🏻😊
Aye, the EZ Clamp. Great super useful product that's been around for much longer than Brompton's version. If I were the people behind it, I wouldn't be too happy to see a Brompton salesman claim that Brompton did it first, and that my product was an imitation...
Hi Isamoa Thats right. But I found there new clamp very interesting in the way that requires fewer turns to close and open. Wich makes much faster than others. Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Hi BrightLightDUN It's a wonderful bike but it doesn't serve my purpose of use because I like to do bike touring, and it lacks gears to climb mountains. Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Hi NYC When I returned from my T Line test-drive I was lucky enough to be present at the delivery of a new brompton T Line and to be able to accompany the first ride with the new owner. And this week Brompton Mafia received his Brompton T Line.
Aesthetically less pleasing . I see more joints & weld ，means more weak point .That is why u don't see many Ti bike tubes w holes &bolts . I am sure the R&D thought of that &cone up w these reinforcement around those area, resulting an unusual look which may impact aesthetic & cost !
Hi Mole Js It is an unusual look. What concerns me is that the frame hole let's water run inside the frame, in case of rain, the tools may get wet and damaged. But it is fantastic how light and fast it is. Great bike for commute Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
@@ChrisbyBike Yes I worry about this too. The seller said that the water would come right out, but that would be only if there's no wind and you're stationary, any other scenario the rain wouldn't be falling vertically in and out. Bit of a dealbreaker if you live in a rainy city I'm afraid. Maybe they'll fix this for the next generation of this bike. Fingers crossed.
Designing in water, mud and dirt traps to the main frame and handlebar stem for the sake of saving costs on materials and to reduce a tiny amount of weight is hardly forward thinking and it certainly won't benefit owners! Aesthetically, the holes are ugly and simply look wrong, and routing water through the frame tube in which the Brompton Tool Kit is designed to store is hardly a credible decision! After decades of failing to lighten the main frame, Brompton appears to have now become utterly fanatical about every gram, everywhere, to the exclusion of every other factor and to the detriment of their own much publicised rear hub and titanium forks! The new inner tubes are certainly light in weight, but are recommended for disc braked bikes due to overheating problems leading to failures. Testing that should have been carried out prior to launch is now the responsibility of the first 500 buyers in return for 3 free services (AKA checks to see what broke, wore out or otherwise failed). I expected better from Brompton!
Hi Felix Cat You are right. The hole on the horizontal frame makes the water pass though the inside of the frame, it will be no problem for the frame, but the tools and, in my case, the extra inner tube will get wet. About this lighter inner tube, I've read the same information. It is recomend for disk brake. Been thinner is easier to heat up. But if you do not need to break for a long time, like on a courved downhill, I guess it won't be a problem. But as you said, the 500 new owners will tell. I did test ride and love it! To ride around New York is perfect. Because of the Titanium and Carbon parts the ride is much smoother, and the pedal's response is immediate. A very fast starter. Perfect for commute! Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
@@ChrisbyBike Fashion is fashion. To the well organized mind, Balenciaga is but the next great adventure. Brompton is... Balenciaga.ruclips.net/video/iE39q-IKOzA/видео.html
How much. Do you have another one also using battery. And how possible transportating it to Nigeria Africa. Thanks.
Hi @enduranceosokpo6274
The T line is marked at cost £3,950 / $4,995.
Sorry, I dont have an electric bike. The Brompton line is very good.
In Brazil we are allowed to bring overseas (when traveling by plane) $1.000,00 in goods. Everything above it, we pay taxes.
Chech out how it works in your country. Every country has it own tax law.
Nice to have you on board!
If you pause the video at 07:31, just beneath where the rear brake cable enters the break caliper you can see a small square-ish tube welded to the rear triangle. As far as I can tell, it's used on the internal gear hubs (IGH) found on other Brompton models. When I quizzed the guy in Covent Garden he said this was for 'an upcoming new feature' or words to that effect but wouldn't say anymore. Anyone have any ideas on what kind of IGH might make sense to put on a titanium/carbon frame? Brompton custom job maybe? Or (I'm fantasising a bit here) a 4-speed Rohloff?!
Hi Samuel Harner
Interesting! 🤔
There is a small square-ish tube fix at the same place as the plastic part that drives the hub cable.
I'll research about it.
Love your comment 👍🏻😊
Then it’s possible a hub version of the titanium.
One of the complaints is the minimum range of running external gears.
Will EDC
Great remainder about the subject. Got to check this out
Nice to have you on board!
Hi Samuel Harmer
I've asked Brompton Suport and here is part of there answer:
- "I appreciate your channel's query about T Line specifications.
At the moment, apart from the technical T Line information we shared with you a couple of months ago, we don't have any further additional gearing details for T Line- apologies for that.
...
In regards to any additional new features (which includes the possibility of having a wider gear range for the T Line models), this is usually announced with the release of the new Model Year, which happens in November every year. "
So we got to wait until November to see if there is something new in Brompton's Bike Touring section.
Nice to have you on board!
Did you managed to do a test ride?
Hi Syed Husen
YESSSS!
It is a fantastic and very light bike to ride in the city.
And because of titanium and carbon. Much smother.
It folds and unfolds much faster. And taking the pedal out makes it easier to carry.
Perfect to commute.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Did you test ride both S bar and M bar? How was it? Which one do you personally prefer? Thanks!
Hueiyu Lee
Sorry, I only had the time to ride on the M bar.
That would be a very good comparison.
Hope to do it next time.
Nice to have you on board!
iT looks amazing 😍, thanks for sharing Chris 🍺🍺🍺
Hi Hands on Brompton
It is a fantastic bike. Very light and fast start. Perfect for cities.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Hello Chris What are the deference between T and P model?
How much it cost the T model in Brazil?
Hi Jose Calixto Vargas
The Brompton dealer in Brazil, Ciclo Urbano has only M6E in stock. And they cost around USD$ 3450,00.
I'll be making a video explaining the basic difference between P and T line.
The T line It's a completely different bike. 150 new components and different desing details.
And the P line is the same frame, but new rear titanium frame (wich is the same frame as the T line)
It will be a nice video to produce
Nice to have you on board!
Did you get to do a review on the P-line ?
Hi Kavan O'Brian
I was so impress with the T line that I didn't have the time to see the other bikes.
Sorry!
@@ChrisbyBike If in the future you have time would be interested in your point of view you have a very good eye for details and practically, hope you enjoyed your trip.
Hi Kavan O'Brian
Have you seen this video?
ruclips.net/video/YWtBUsRYR9s/видео.html
It is all about the P Line. At the time it was my dream bike.
@@ChrisbyBike yes seen it , but would like you to test ride the T and P line if you get a chance, looking and test riding may produce two different outcomes . All that glitters is not always gold.
This Saturday I'll post a video with my first ride on a T Line and a first time T Line owner ride.
But we do not have any P lines here in Brasil.
Hope to see some, on my next trip.
First! 🤗🥰☝️
Hi NoZenith
I love it! It is a fantastic bike for citty.
But it lacks gears to bike turing.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
@@ChrisbyBike thanks for your opinion here. That's what I was feeling who's going to be the case. If I get another folding bike I'll probably go for something like a Camp Royale 9 speed and spend the difference of how much more affordable it is upgrading the pedals and a few other big heavy parts to lighten it up and then just save the rest for future modification. Maybe a carbon front wheel, seatpost and handlebars
It is a good option.
But sometimes we spend more on the upgrades, them buying a better bike.
Nice question...❓
David tried his best, but I don't think he knows any of them.
Hi BrightLightDUN
I think only the Brompton's engeniers know all these awnsers.
But basically the holes are to save weight and they thought it would look nice. 👍🏻😊
Hi Lili
Essa é a pergunta que mais fazem quando veem a bike.
O mais incrível é como ela é leve. Quase o peso das nossas speeds.
👍🏻😘
Chris,are 4 gears enough in your opinion?
Hi Nora Halkelfs
No! Not enough for touring with the Brompton. But it is a great choice for commute.
Not having a Hub saves a lot of weight.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
@@ChrisbyBike That answers my question,thanks.
Let’s hope in the near future we can make some changes on ours like the T Line has 🙏🏻
I had the new P Line which has the same 4 gear system. I replaced the 50T (102 links) chainrings to 56T oval chainrings (106 links) and the ride much better. With the lighter weight 9.89kg , it is great to commute around the city as mentioned by Chris. You still can go up slope with the lower gear.
@@norahalkefs I totally agree! I am nowhere near as strong and athletic as Chris is especially with her dedicated bike training. I walk everywhere and I'm a fair-weather Runner but that's a totally different thing so she thinks it needs more gears it definitely needs more gears! I use five of my gears just riding around town 😆
@@syedhusen have you considered a dual chainring when you're not feeling up to the hills with the big chainring? Brompton Family Time here on RUclips installed the... I can't remember: Ti workshop or H&H dual chainring and you can shift down on the fly onto the lower chainring by just pressing your right toe against the chain as you pedal with your left foot and it drops down onto the smaller chainring. I watched a ton of videos and reviews on this and it seems to be a really good/ easiest option to be able to ride at higher speeds but still not limit yourself from the convenience of hill climbing with significantly lower gears.
Edit: looked it up and linked. He used H&H
ruclips.net/video/wntOUuYjO-A/видео.html
Are they going to allowed in the world championships? Stay Safe and keep coming!!!
Great question, Sheila Stallard.
They will definitely open a special category just for the T Line, because it is much lighter than original Bromptons , the pedal response is very immediate and it is much more comfortable.
So, for sure, it will be a separate category.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
I would have hated the loose pedals, if I had bought one instead of my former top-model Lightweight.
Hi Finn Carl Bomholt Sørensen
To lose a padle would be terrible, but they got a point. Once the pedal is removed, the bike is much easier to carry when folded.
David is a good salesman, but it's not the aftermarket parts that imitate the new clamps - they went first if I am not mistaken
Hi Holger Nestmann
You are right, the new clamps were inspired by the aftermarket pieces.
And they did a great job. Needs less turns to lock and unlock. And the plate stays straight. It is really cool
Nice to have you on board!
@@ChrisbyBike Thanks for the warm welcome! Great Videos!
I installed the aftermarket ones after a week. I couldnt get used to them spinning all over the place.
brilliantbikes fitted the new p/t line ones on a classic brompton. Thats also a great option. Hopefully they bring it down to c and a-line. The old ones are just silly
Hi Holger Nestmann
That will be great!
They are faster and easier to use.
I was going to try that, but a new Brompton T line arrived to pick up his bike and let me ride along for his first ride. So I forgot to do it.
Great to know that 👍🏻😊👍🏻👍🏻😊
Aye, the EZ Clamp. Great super useful product that's been around for much longer than Brompton's version. If I were the people behind it, I wouldn't be too happy to see a Brompton salesman claim that Brompton did it first, and that my product was an imitation...
Hi Isamoa
Thats right. But I found there new clamp very interesting in the way that requires fewer turns to close and open. Wich makes much faster than others.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
☝🏻😇
👍🏻😊🚵♀️
"The hole is there to minimize weight." Yeah, right.... 🤣
Hi @davidhuntermyc1
Yes, the gol is to minimize weight and maintain strength.
Nice to have you on board!
Hayırlı olsun. 🧿😊
Hi Adnan Aydin
Videoyu beğendiğine sevindim.
çok hoş geldiniz.
Did you order one?
Hi BrightLightDUN
It's a wonderful bike but it doesn't serve my purpose of use because I like to do bike touring, and it lacks gears to climb mountains.
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
Does anybody know if the T-Line will be available for everyone one day. Or is this lottery thing going on forever?
Hi NYC
When I returned from my T Line test-drive I was lucky enough to be present at the delivery of a new brompton T Line and to be able to accompany the first ride with the new owner.
And this week Brompton Mafia received his Brompton T Line.
Aesthetically less pleasing . I see more joints & weld ，means more weak point .That is why u don't see many Ti bike tubes w holes &bolts . I am sure the R&D thought of that &cone up w these reinforcement around those area, resulting an unusual look which may impact aesthetic & cost !
Hi Mole Js
It is an unusual look.
What concerns me is that the frame hole let's water run inside the frame, in case of rain, the tools may get wet and damaged.
But it is fantastic how light and fast it is.
Great bike for commute
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
@@ChrisbyBike Yes I worry about this too. The seller said that the water would come right out, but that would be only if there's no wind and you're stationary, any other scenario the rain wouldn't be falling vertically in and out. Bit of a dealbreaker if you live in a rainy city I'm afraid. Maybe they'll fix this for the next generation of this bike. Fingers crossed.
Hi Isamoa
Because it is made of Titanium there will be no problem with rust. But it will be wet for sure.
Nice to have you on board!
Designing in water, mud and dirt traps to the main frame and handlebar stem for the sake of saving costs on materials and to reduce a tiny amount of weight is hardly forward thinking and it certainly won't benefit owners!
Aesthetically, the holes are ugly and simply look wrong, and routing water through the frame tube in which the Brompton Tool Kit is designed to store is hardly a credible decision!
After decades of failing to lighten the main frame, Brompton appears to have now become utterly fanatical about every gram, everywhere, to the exclusion of every other factor and to the detriment of their own much publicised rear hub and titanium forks!
The new inner tubes are certainly light in weight, but are recommended for disc braked bikes due to overheating problems leading to failures.
Testing that should have been carried out prior to launch is now the responsibility of the first 500 buyers in return for 3 free services (AKA checks to see what broke, wore out or otherwise failed).
I expected better from Brompton!
Hi Felix Cat
You are right.
The hole on the horizontal frame makes the water pass though the inside of the frame, it will be no problem for the frame, but the tools and, in my case, the extra inner tube will get wet.
About this lighter inner tube, I've read the same information. It is recomend for disk brake. Been thinner is easier to heat up.
But if you do not need to break for a long time, like on a courved downhill, I guess it won't be a problem.
But as you said, the 500 new owners will tell.
I did test ride and love it!
To ride around New York is perfect. Because of the Titanium and Carbon parts the ride is much smoother, and the pedal's response is immediate.
A very fast starter. Perfect for commute!
Keep Safe! Keep Riding!
.... Brompton is... Balenciaga.
Fashion? 🤔
@@ChrisbyBike Fashion is fashion. To the well organized mind, Balenciaga is but the next great adventure. Brompton is... Balenciaga.ruclips.net/video/iE39q-IKOzA/видео.html