Every Essential Fox Shine Combo (vs Top Tiers)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @AquaticIvy
    @AquaticIvy 3 года назад +89

    Congrats on finally made it to 100k! I’m glad this channel is back. It fills a hole needed in the community.

  • @Zr0ck79
    @Zr0ck79 3 года назад +67

    Just wanna mention that the covering of abusers in the vod examples doesnt go unnoticed and is appreciated!

  • @WastedFlan
    @WastedFlan 3 года назад +8

    Appreciate all the effort taken to get example footage from unranked and tournament sets, I know that's always p time consuming haha

  • @upgamerFranzo
    @upgamerFranzo 3 года назад +11

    Great video, I'll need to learn these. Showing footage from actual matches where these combos were used by top players was a very nice touch.

  • @crisXD2010
    @crisXD2010 3 года назад +7

    Best smash channel in RUclips, these guys deserve way more than 100k, top notch content

  • @lucalyons-sosa9843
    @lucalyons-sosa9843 3 года назад +8

    Foxes, waveshine Nair is a mixup at mid to high percent cuz they would most likely be DI'ing out to get as much distance off of the shine. You can condition a marth to do this and then waveshine Nair em and then it's an easy edgeguard.

  • @LT1
    @LT1 3 года назад +5

    It's crazy to see slippi and non slippi clips in the same video. The game just looks so much nicer in new clips.

  • @debarshimajumdar3942
    @debarshimajumdar3942 3 года назад +7

    Great video Connor! Love how detailed this was. Could not have been easy finding all these clips for all the different characters. You put in a ton of work for this and it shows! Hope to see more videos from you in the future

  • @changyanwang1625
    @changyanwang1625 3 года назад +4

    ssbm tutorials truly popping off recently, keep it up!

  • @5uitcase
    @5uitcase 3 года назад +4

    Next is gunna be a falco shine combo tutorial:
    Shine->imagination

  • @koitsuga
    @koitsuga 3 года назад

    Man the connor vids on this channel are so good and don't have any hot takes in them, I love it

    • @koitsuga
      @koitsuga 3 года назад

      Never mind there was a reactability mistake

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +1

      @@koitsuga I apologize for the mistake. I promise I'm doing the best I can with the limited amount of time I have lmao

  • @henrybaxter9432
    @henrybaxter9432 3 года назад +1

    Great vid I was looking for this exact video everywhere

  • @lucas56sdd
    @lucas56sdd 3 года назад +13

    8:20 lmao even trade

    • @dustyafrojonson4510
      @dustyafrojonson4510 3 года назад

      Lol fox does 800 inputs in rapid succession... peach pressed the yellow one down one time.. seems about right to me

  • @aaronshi2582
    @aaronshi2582 3 года назад +1

    Thanks so much for the tutorial!

  • @Pabmyster
    @Pabmyster 3 года назад +3

    Connor the legend 🙏

  • @TheZoardfighter
    @TheZoardfighter 3 года назад +7

    Could we get a video like this for comboing the weirdos? I'm talking of course about Samus, Yoshi, ICs, and Pikachu

  • @jakezepeda1267
    @jakezepeda1267 3 года назад

    I didn't realize you came back till today.
    Welcome back.

  • @ericdraughn7426
    @ericdraughn7426 3 года назад +2

    Amazing knowledge drop. Thank you so much for this hard work

  • @somistyy
    @somistyy 3 года назад +3

    Nah I'm still chaingrabbing falcon from 45 to 70, I only ever had like 2 mfs jump out of it lol

  • @RedPandaSmash
    @RedPandaSmash 3 года назад +1

    Aw. I was anticipating PAL Marth. Great video. I wish I had this back in 2013/2014 when I was active and learning.

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal 3 года назад +8

      I am pretty sure no Melee scene in the world still uses PAL. It is basically irrelevant in this era.

  • @Jonathondelemos
    @Jonathondelemos 3 года назад +50

    How about essential shines against top tiers with 80 ping

    • @Lampaluile
      @Lampaluile 3 года назад

      Double shines and drills

    • @Jonathondelemos
      @Jonathondelemos 3 года назад

      @@Lampaluile that’s assuming you even get the dash

    • @abjoern
      @abjoern 3 года назад

      80 is like offline?

    • @Jonathondelemos
      @Jonathondelemos 3 года назад

      @@abjoern if you are offline there is no ping between locations. So no it’s not like offline

    • @abjoern
      @abjoern 3 года назад

      @@Jonathondelemos no but there's no extra input delay and the max rollback is less than 3 frames, so even in the worst case, you'll still see the fastest moves like fox shine, so it barely ever affects gameplay

  • @jimb0blip
    @jimb0blip 3 года назад +1

    Upthrow combos would be dope!

  • @jespejo1882
    @jespejo1882 3 года назад

    Connor this is an amazing resource, thank you

  • @Marko-mp1cu
    @Marko-mp1cu Год назад

    this is probably the most helpfull video you guys have thank you so much

  • @flashburn117
    @flashburn117 3 года назад

    Nice video Connor.

  • @cosmosa_bravo
    @cosmosa_bravo 2 года назад

    Awesome video thanks!

  • @LimitBlade617
    @LimitBlade617 3 года назад

    I'm a very casual player, and watching this makes me really want to learn Fox.

  • @treyhallmark5418
    @treyhallmark5418 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @fukawadesu
    @fukawadesu 3 года назад

    Defenetly what you need to learn about shine

  • @smallsizeemerald395
    @smallsizeemerald395 3 года назад +1

    I don't think censoring MacD out of existence is the right thing to do.
    It just doesn't help in any way...
    Especially considering that he was one of the least dangerous individual who got banned during the purge of Summer 2020.

  • @lambmaster27
    @lambmaster27 3 года назад +1

    8:38 Why is MacD censored in this clip?

    • @lambmaster27
      @lambmaster27 3 года назад

      Nevermind, I understand now.

  • @justingalin5559
    @justingalin5559 3 года назад

    Great video awesome idea!

  • @doomeyay
    @doomeyay 3 года назад

    LOVE U CONNOR

  • @lakessbm
    @lakessbm 3 года назад

    Thank you so much!!!!

  • @dostipos1
    @dostipos1 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for this video! I was just getting the hang of waveshine but I really didn't know how to use it in different matchups and it ended up being kinda useless (especially against falco).

  • @Zzzlol94
    @Zzzlol94 3 года назад +11

    i clicked hard on this

  • @aidenhall4850
    @aidenhall4850 3 года назад

    this is fantastic, more content like this that enumerates combos and such are really useful. You could do one about kill confirms, for example: what kill confirms should fox look for against sheik at which %s?

  • @dustyafrojonson4510
    @dustyafrojonson4510 3 года назад +4

    Great vid man!
    Could you do something similar with falco shine follow ups?

  • @melee9183
    @melee9183 2 года назад

    Shine JC usmash is actually pretty nasty against puff too

  • @pavelrc5028
    @pavelrc5028 3 года назад +2

    How do you double jump out properly as Falcon??

    • @Sir_Robin_of_Camelot
      @Sir_Robin_of_Camelot 3 года назад

      I would assume wiggle out of tumble as early as possible?

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +1

      Don't have to wiggle out of tumble actually, you can either time the jump well or use Up on control stick for a 3 frame buffer. Still have to somewhat time it though

    • @Sir_Robin_of_Camelot
      @Sir_Robin_of_Camelot 3 года назад

      @@SSBMTutorials That same buffer applies to the "wiggle out" where you just need one stick input to get out of tumble normally (without jumping out), right? Or am I misunderstanding? Are your inputs locked out if you miss the window early (similar to missed tech, for example) or something? I feel like I should know this shit after playing for as long as I have, lol.

  • @bmmedia3943
    @bmmedia3943 3 года назад

    such good content

  • @gaidencastro9706
    @gaidencastro9706 3 года назад +1

    SSBMT, what do you think of Gildedguy's Falcomaster Anime?

  • @equinox3861
    @equinox3861 3 года назад

    If Peach players were as good at SDIing as Wizzrobe that infinite wouldn't last long.

  • @MrVideo-lt5qy
    @MrVideo-lt5qy 3 года назад

    Not trying to start anything but why is the guy at 8:40 censored? I’m just curious

    • @nramirez0699
      @nramirez0699 3 года назад +2

      Covering up those accused/confirmed of accusations of sexual misconduct. Don't need to shine any more light on em

  • @yoyooo2008
    @yoyooo2008 3 года назад +1

    cool

  • @sandros.6371
    @sandros.6371 3 года назад

    Do more videos on mid tiers

  • @dimebag8550
    @dimebag8550 2 года назад

    how tf do you jab out of waveshine???? I swear my waveshine is long enough but fox and falco are always too far away from me to jab them. please help me

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  2 года назад

      try jabbing way earlier. most likely your waveshine isnt max length either but it shouldnt matter unless it's really not smooth

    • @dimebag8550
      @dimebag8550 2 года назад

      @@SSBMTutorials thanks for the feedback

  • @Wiziliz
    @Wiziliz 3 года назад

    A Falco one'd be cool.

  • @metalparamivida
    @metalparamivida 3 года назад

    At 8: 39 why is there a black square?

  • @michaelbuffington7141
    @michaelbuffington7141 3 года назад

    Yes I want this

  • @sektorackworth214
    @sektorackworth214 3 года назад

    I have a question is u-throw, n-air/b-air , u-tilt a true combo

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +1

      it's possible to escape. If you're talking about against Sheik at low percent, she can SDI the nair up hard and double jump out, but she's still in a really bad spot. However most people will just get combo'd by this

  • @devilmaycrysarockingdontcome
    @devilmaycrysarockingdontcome 3 года назад

    yes

  • @bluelane
    @bluelane 3 года назад

    Moar shine plz

  • @lestacilo
    @lestacilo 3 года назад

    mario tutorial pleaseeee

  • @theknee5590
    @theknee5590 3 года назад +1

    0:56 I think you got light and heavy backwards!

    • @normalrachael
      @normalrachael 3 года назад +2

      nope, kira is correct. higher weight == less knockback, which for fox’s shine, means that they don’t take enough knockback to fall over.

    • @jonathancangelosi2439
      @jonathancangelosi2439 3 года назад +4

      you might be confusing weight with gravity. fox and falco, despite being fastfallers, have low weight. peach, on the other hand, has a slow fall speed but a high weight. fox and falco’s lower weight makes them more susceptible to being knocked down. a character’s fall speed is unrelated to their weight. weight also affects the speed of fox’s upthrow animation. this is why upthrow upair is so much harder to land on peach.
      fox/falco = lightweight, fastfaller
      falcon = heavyweight, fastfaller
      puff = lightweight, floaty
      peach = heavyweight, floaty

    • @theknee5590
      @theknee5590 3 года назад +1

      @@jonathancangelosi2439 damn, TIL - thanks!

    • @Pabmyster
      @Pabmyster 3 года назад +2

      @@normalrachael this one is Connor, not Kira! ;)

  • @ddublu
    @ddublu 3 года назад

    I know it's semantics, but why don't we call "short hop" hop and "full jump" jump, instead of having to qualify the height every time?
    Nothing to do with the video, just something that always occupies my brain whenever I think melee tech discussions.

  • @gabimeredith1
    @gabimeredith1 3 года назад

    Run shine upair is soooo good vs falcon

  • @eeveewithcoffee9554
    @eeveewithcoffee9554 3 года назад

    Hi

  • @TurbinationE
    @TurbinationE 3 года назад

    Assuming that the Puff has enough stage to do so, you can't reaction tech chase her off of shine

  • @The.Fool0
    @The.Fool0 3 года назад

    +1 chatters

  • @yoyooo2008
    @yoyooo2008 3 года назад

    heart me

  • @LosEspookys
    @LosEspookys 3 года назад +3

    very lame thanks

  • @SnakeMaster
    @SnakeMaster 3 года назад +3

    100k subs Pog

  • @milk4you1200
    @milk4you1200 3 года назад

    Great video!

  • @BusterKlondike
    @BusterKlondike 3 года назад

    Great video!