The Talos Principle: Making Of
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- A video showcasing the development of The Talos Principle, a First-Person-Puzzler created by Croteam with help of Tom Jubert and Jonas Kyratzes, and published by Devolver Digital.
© 2014 Croteam
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This game is a true masterpiece, everything about it just "fits together". The world, the puzzles, you, EL0HIM, Milton, Alexandra, the overall purpose of the game.... it all just comes together. It's extremely impressive. I think this game will stand the test of time extremely well, it's a real classic in the making.
+shingnosis I like too bad i suck at it
I agree completely. The solidity and complexity of the story and the game play and how they just fit together perfectly is just staggering. After playing it through a couple of times I had no problem buying it again for VR. Definitely worth it.
Doing level design with lego is freakin' ingenious
I’m absolutely agree)))
I am so so so lucky to find this game. It is THE best game I've ever played. It taught me so much about human philosophy, the notion of AI and our own future.
you probably need to get out more
There was something magical about this game. On paper it looks a bit weird - puzzles combined with reading of short existential philosophy texts, but the final result with the nice music and the mysterious story was such a blast.
This fucking game took my breath away. I loved everything about it, the game play, the puzzles, El0him, alexandra, milton. I loved reading everything about in the archive and the time capsules struck me with awe.
Same here. Some of the capsules and library entries really got me. For some reason, the one about reminding people to set their pets free (and help them survive without their owner) I found quite heartbreaking.
I know right?! That one also got me. There was also this other one called "lyrics", I think. Basically singing everyone's "got it" (you know what he's talking about). But then it goes "Dog's got... Dog's fine!".
Well shit. That's when the pieces came together for me.
Just finished this game today and loved it. I was explaining the story to my girlfriend and the part about the pets really got me, too.
i acctualy didnt like this couse its no shooting for me its sloowwwww when they released the talos priciple i ignored it couse i knew how it was like
This game is truly amazing and there is nothing like playing it for the first time! I can't wait to play talos principle 2 !!
"The Talos Principle" is a convergence of factors, each great and very well-executed in their own right. The puzzles are so gratifying to solve, the environments have just the right amount of implicit story-telling and mysticism, the story is at the heart what makes us human, and the soundtrack elevates everything into an exquisite experience. One of my favourite "games". Brilliant work, Croteam, truly excellent.
This was the BEST game i have EVER played...hands down! I wish there was more!
Every word you have spoken is true! the BEST game I have EVER played!
Found this game at the start of the pandemic, 100%d main game and all dlc. Incredible experience and NOW THERES A 2ND ONE COMING.
the "Making Of" of Croteam´s masterpiece.
One of those games that will stick with me forever. The art, the atmosphere, the story, the music and the puzzle design were all phenomenal. One of my top 5 games ever.
It's one of those games I wish I could wipe my memory and go play again to experience it fresh. I envy the people who will play it for the first time.
Utterly fantastic. I can't wait for TP2.
What did you think of TTP2?
Upravo sam prešao igru i oduševljen sam. Hvala vam za ovo remek djelo CroTeam!
This game is so great. I wish it was way more known. I love that they have taken the time to make this video!
Best game ever. Like, really, nothing can even come close to such creation. Love it.
There are times when I feel stressed and I imagine myself in one of the worlds you created in the Talos Principal. I'm surprised at how comforted I am in those worlds. Thank you Croteam for the gift of the Talos Principal. It's the most important game I've ever played.
A masterpiece. Unlike any other game. All my fingers crossed for Talos Principle 2.
soon bro
This is not a game, this is an experience of a life time. Thank you CRO TEAM for making this. The puzzles are amazing but the philosophy behind it is what made a deep impact on me. Many nights I would just read through the logs and would analyze them in great detail. There is so much TRUTH behind this game... but it seems like us humans just turn a blind eye to this. Thank you once again from Costa Rica !
This game has been life changing for me. Now I'm playing Talos Principle 2 and loving every single moment of it :)
I am not a gamer, but I can tell that this is a masterpiece, I am totally fascinated about it.
I was shocked to realize that Talos was created by the same team that was making Serious Sam for 15 years. Usually such devs would be a one-trick horse. Hell, even more diversely skilled teams like Maxis often make a flop once they try a different game genre. But here we have an absolutely polished masterpiece, perfect both in aesthetics and gameplay. A pleasant surprise, this one.
Best game ever.. played it and its expansion many times... the VR version is amazing.. thanks guys
Major spoilers in the video!
Just finished the game and I'm totally stunned. I heard university courses about the pihlosophy of conciousnes, but The Talos Principle still shed a new light on my perception of the problems surrounding it.
I hardly recommend to experience the story! Read as many QR-Codes and texts as you can find in the game to understand the deep topics it adresses. Overall the gamedesign is awesome! The puzzles alone would be enough to make an oustanding game but the story really adds so much. Sometimes you play a game and say: wow I actually learned something here (apart from solving puzzles). Maybe the Talos Principle is the king of them all since it doesn't teach just a language or maths, but it makes you develop questions about the nature of conciousness and the human existance without the "boringness" of a philosophy lecture.
I automatically started reading the subtitles, but then I was all like 'wait... I can actually understand what they are saying'. XD
+Lucitaur Lol wtf dude koji si ti lik e xD
congrats to this amazing game. a very unique and fresh piece of art, much appreciated. hope to see more from croteam in the future!
One of the best game I've ever played! Masterpiece.
This game is the meaning of UNDERRATED
I wish more ppl know about this outstanding masterpiece!
when i started to play i expected portal. what i got was 10 times better :D
+Selss Portal is catering to a different demographic. Talos Principle is a pure and later on extremely hard puzzle game. I found my self scratching my head oftentimes trying to beat a puzzle but it also has this rewarding feel to it.
In my opinion Talos Principle made Portal its bitch. It's longer than both Portal games combined and while at it, the quantity NEVER sacrificed quality.
+S Well you're only saying that because portal 2 has a very involved story and is extremely action-based. Puzzle wise and well, gameplay wise, Talos Principle knocked it out of the park, nailing both atmosphere and mechanics.
Let's be honest, even though I love portal, it would eventually get boring if it had no action.
S well IMO and a lot of other peoples', it's not. But then again, even though they're both puzzle games, TTP has this feeling to it, like bliss, and an incredible story and OST. A lot of portal 2 is comical, and those parts are generally taken less seriously. In Portal 2 it felt like I beat puzzles to get past it, not to get a Sigil like in TTP, which is more rewarding.
Just my opinion.
I found both Portal and Talos Principle puzzle easy enough. But I loved Talos because of how majestic and interesting it is, with it's visual, music, philosophy, emotions. Now, the puzzles in that DLC that came later are much harder (still haven't finished this one). Maybe some of the star puzzles are harder on the original too.
There is also The Witness, again majestic and zen, but doesn't have the spatial puzzles (it all seems like cardboard puzzles, even though however later it expands in the environment, interesting ideas for sure), also much much harder and no story. A different less casual experience.
But from all these, Talos remains one of my favorite game experiences.
really loved the game really thought provoking heavy handed philosophy. really one of the best game after portal that ive played since a long time
SOMA and Talos Principle. Those games possess a life-changing experience, but only for truly
sophisticated gamers.
The best game i have ever played. I wish all of em were atleast close to talos.. i wish..
"Beyond that, time'll have to be it's judge" - man, I just finished Talos Principle, it's one of the best games I ever played. The world and the puzzles were so enjoyable. The game aged like fine wine.
Well, time may be its judge, but my personal judgement is "absolutely excellent, some of the most fun I had with a game in a long time."
Thanks to Croteam for the excellent work - really nice to see this short making of for it. Wouldn't have watched a video like this on any game, but this one's special in my book :)
Major spoilers, don't watch if you haven't played the game.
That said, I do not like puzzle games in general but I was enthralled with the Talos Principle. The story kept pushing me on and on. I loved doing the puzzles, I felt smart after finishing them. I feel the puzzles had a perfect progression in my opinion throughout the game.
Croteam is so hardcore with what they do. Serious Sam was hard on the harder difficulties but talos principle gets harder the more you complete. At the end i felt really great by beating the game and admitt that i had to look up some star locations when i could not find them. Really a great game.
Got it for something like $6 this last steam sale. Totally worth it. Great game.
I really want to thank them for making such a game ;___;
:) a new standard for game creativity....thoroughly enjoyed it. it makes you question and think, not just the puzzles but about existence as well
thanks for the making video....kudos to croteam
The game looks great)
I am a big fan of Serious Sam and I would play it, it seems to be very interesting
And I really find Croatian language nice
Thank you very much, Croteam for all your games :)
Hello from Germany
One thing I would change in this game...…..uh, never mind, it's perfect!
Elohims.... developers have great knowledge of the world. This game is a metaphor revealing what are our origins
i have just finished dlc ,,Road to Gehenna". In my opinion it was way better than vanilla game and level design was on the highest level. Of course main story, locations and music from vanilla game was masterpiecie but social element was the best experience ever. 10/10
I couldn't seem to edit my previous post. I hope (VERY MUCH), that there will be a new add on to the game to continue where it left off. :)
no! Now we want Serious Sam 4!
Diamond Games Why can't we have both? ;)
Probotector AUT cause a dev cant work on 10 things simutaneously. Besides the expansion to Talos was already announced
Talos principle 2 is coming !
You know those 3D sigil puzzles you dropped from the original game? One word for you...VR! Also, Salonica! My home town Thessaloniki!
Nisam ni znao da su Hrvati ovo napravili. Znaci igra je masterpiece. Jako pametni dečki 👍🏻
It's interesting watching this "Making Of" video, and reading some of the comments here, and comparing it to my own experiences with the game.
I liked The Talos Principle a lot, and I think that it's a very good game, but it does have certain flaws that cause the game as a whole to not entirely "work" for me. This is more easily seen if you compare it to one of my all-time favourite games, Riven (the sequel to Myst) which is another puzzle game set in an enigmatic, mysterious environment, but with a very different tone, playing style, and execution.
Watching Riven's "Making Of" video (it's on RUclips) and comparing it to this is quite revealing. Both games were created by teams that really care about their craft, but I believe that the Riven team were more focused on unifying gameplay, narrative, and environment design from the start, whereas the Talos team began by developing certain game elements (the puzzle mechanics), then developing the environment (the various worlds of ruins), and only at the end deciding on the overall story.
Talos' story is quite cool -- but it doesn't quite work for me. Firstly, it does veer into pretentiousness a few too many times. It tries to shoehorn in philosophical discussions that don't necessarily fit the gameplay or the "revealed narrative", the storyline as the player uncovers it. The fundamental difference is how the games actually express their core narrative. Where Riven (and to some extent other games in the Myst series, and games like Portal) express philosophical themes through the events the player witnesses and the worlds they explore, Talos too often tries to "dangle" philosophical ideas on top of the game that don't entirely cohere with the actual gameplay experience.
For example, the story and world of Riven touch on ideas such as art vs science, the nature of religion, civilised vs primitive societies, hubris, and morality, but nowhere in the game do we get an essay or lecture on these topics: instead we explore a world that's been bent out of shape by a mad, twisted megalomaniac, and the game gives us freedom to draw out its themes for ourselves. Though people praise Talos' story -- and I'll admit that the backstory, taken by itself, is interesting and creative -- it doesn't entirely fit with the overall game, and I think one of the reasons is that it was added on at the end of the development process.
Watching Talos' "Making Of" video has really made clear to me why I find the game frustrating. The core gameplay -- the interesting puzzle mechanics, combined into well-designed puzzles, in a world of scenic ruins and quirky technology -- is a very nice, cohesive, polished experience, with well-balanced challenges and a nice mix of fun, character and mystery in the world as we experience it. In the video, you can see how they developed the core of the game -- beginning with an interesting new gameplay mechanic, and the carefully developing levels and the aesthetic of the worlds on top of that.
I'll also admit that many elements of the story do work. The QR codes in particular are a really nice touch and add the right mix of fun, immersion and personality to the game. We hear the opinions of others who've explored the same worlds we have, which helps the world feel more "real". Notably, I think this is the right way for games to introduce philosophical elements -- through the opinions of different characters, with different personalities, acting in the world. Instead of reading essays on the nature of religion, obedience vs disobedience, and so on, it's far more engaging to read the QR commenters debate whether or not Elohim should be followed.
However, I think where the game went sideways was in trying to shoehorn every philosophical idea that was somewhat related into the game, in a way that wasn't organic. I'm pretty sure the two guys in the video who wrote most of the final story could make a cool game (or write a short story) out of the narrative they came up with for Talos -- but Talos itself wasn't it. I believe that the deepest cause of Talos' disjointedness -- between its core gameplay and its overarching narrative -- is from bringing in two outsiders to decide on the overall story right at the end of development. Croteam clearly had good instincts in finding writers with creative integrity -- which is why the storyline is overall pretty good -- but without "baking in" the narrative from the start of development, the game was doomed to end up with its fundamental disjointedness. Heck, the iconic "jammers" are core to the game (the game could be called "Jammer" in homage to "Portal") but we have no idea why ELOHIM has a thing for jammer-themed puzzles in particular.
The idea of a simulated world is cool, but as is said at the end of the video, one reason why the devs chose this premise was because it gave them freedom to explain any element of the gameplay -- it's all part of the simulation! -- which therefore means that very little in the core game has any narrative significance. In games like Riven (the other Myst games do this too, though to a lesser extent, and I believe Portal does as well), every area you explore and item you investigate helps flesh out the core narrative and expresses, even if indirectly, the themes of the game. (One of the simplest, and most effective, ways it does this is by letting you rummage through rooms and possessions belonging to a particular character -- giving you an image of that individual and what kind of person they are.) Imagine if Talos let you explore the abandoned research lab belonging to the characters we hear of in the recordings -- it would have a much more powerful story. (I know they couldn't do this without completely overhauling the game, but I think it would be the right direction to go in.)
Svaka Čast momci, kupio na steamu :)
kupiču sad još test levels, i čeamo na ss4.
So YOU are the masterminds behind my all time favorite game? Greetings from Hungary.
I just beat it. That's all I have to say. Now I am gonna stick my head into an ice bucket to cool down my brain.
Far the best game I`ve ever played in my whole fucking life
Promovirate našu zemlju na najbolji mogući način
Average level designing fans: using all digital tools to make it
Average croteam enjoyers: LEGO
It's not only first-person, I actually prefered playing in third-person.
me too! It felt nice seeing the android character, and made it (even) more different from 1st person (shooter) games.
snakedogman Yeah, it almost felt like a waste not to see the awesome character design and smooth movement animations :D
I think I spent hours just running around and admiring it...
Ditto, I prefer playing in third-person
Wow, I wasn't expecting a foreign team. Interesting!
It's the best game I've ever played.
5:42 wow thats amazing its like real life verison of the game!!
Yeah, reality never ceases to amaze and lately it even started to mimick games so well it's hard to tell which one is true!
4:09 can you believe that i was trying to solve that very puzzle at the very moment??😂😂😂😂
thx for the answer😂😂😂
So this is portal meet myst
Very cool game. Enjoyed it alot, even if it is abit repetitive. The end was short, but very nice! *Steam* Well worth the money.
+konsul2006 Did you accomplish the 3 endings?
+Guilherme Vulcano Sella wow. I only did two endings... I have to revisit the game now :)
Absolutely amazing game i snagged for under $5. Very underrated
This game is sick af
Just finished this game (quite late to the party, I know). As soon as Elohim introduced Himself, I was excited; that Kabbalah class finally paid off! Lol
Vrhunska igra.
Truly great and smart game
ova igra me podseca na portal seriju :)
14:04 how can I get a TTP t-shirt? xD
amazing game
This is illegal. This video is a part of Bonus Content, and you published it without permission.
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Very interesting! But tell them not to speak so fast. I can't read subtitles that quick.
This is the type of game I love. Like Myst and portal. I really liked the graphics and I enjoyed solving the puzzles but there's ridiculously just too many. It began getting too repetitive, not only the puzzles, but the terminals and the desert scenery. I was doing well in puzzles and feeling good about them until some puzzle really became impossible (without cheats), especially some of the stars. Unfortunately, the puzzles and the game felt detached. It's an awful lot of puzzle just to tell you what I think most already know. I did begin enjoying it but later actually disliking it. It was getting painful doing yet another puzzle. You can only do so many using the same tools over and over again. All the writings on the walls, time capsules, pc terminal and the many puzzles just got you to the same end game feeling you missed something. Sure, the Easter eggs were cute, but added little to the game. After so many puzzle and levels, I didn't feel satisfied that I really accomplished anything and the ending left me and the cat with not much left to do.
I thought the puzzles were easy and intuitive, I'm sorry your experience wasn't as enjoyable.
the game has terrible bugs that the testers missed in the release version. It spoils the whole impression.
I hate puzzle game, especially this one, I also hate the setting (platforms floating in space and no continuity between civilisation).
But the story, the graphics and the voice actors made me love thid game and buy the DLC. I've finished both 100% for the Lore and love them (but please if you are attached to the lore don't find secrets in the DLC, all endings are the same cutscene followed by a black screen and only the quote read differs, huge waste of time).
You especially hate this game but you love it at the same time and finished it 100%? Take your pills next time before you comment, please.