Tested! Continental TKC70 Dual Sport 60/40 Adventure Tire More Street Less Dirt
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Kyle and Travis from www.ChapMoto.com mount up a sets of Continental TKC70 and TKC80 tires and put them to the test against one another!
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Thank you for finally dropping your bike. I was really starting to feel shitty about myself.
Ha! Ha! It does happen! Here is a video of my "toughest day" tire testing. Must have dropped the bike a dozen tires. HATE the Kenda Paver Tire... ruclips.net/video/Nhv8Vf6QiTU/видео.html The opening scene still makes me cringe ;) Thanks for watching. - Kyle
This series is amazing--both informative and entertaining. I've been riding for 20 years, and only ventured into dirt for the first time last year on a '13 Versys 650 I bought for relatively cheap. I'm learning so much by watching these videos. Thank you!
Glad you like them! We greatly appreciate you watching our videos. Ride safe.
awesome! i booked a battlax ax41 and got TKC 70 installed. Told the shop guy i am mostly on highways, and wet roads, with lil bit off-road trails. Straight off he told me to go with TKC 70 as it has better traction and grip on roads/turns/wet conditions. AX41=TKC80!
Glad to hear you are happy with the tire. Ride safe.
@@chaparralmotorsports by the way it is TKC 70 rocks on my rear. Thanks 😊
I totally agree with your assessment on the TKC70. On the street, awesome, offroad... disapointing. 80% on road, 20% offroad. I am planning to go the dunes with the Africa and my TCK70s ... I will drop to 20psi to start... wish me luck...
Good luck! You will have fun!
Nice safe on the TKC70 climb! Quite a training area for riding in the sand.
Yeah... Travis is an Animal!
90/10 % ..... tkc70 is a very good street tyre,perfect on asphalt,cold and hot dry and wet,14000km's,good handling,offroad will be sometimes ok,its the perfect tyre on a long travell !! sorry for my bad english,but many greetings from germany dirk :)) ich verstehe nicht ganz viel bei euren videos,aber ich schaue sie regelmäßig ! ihr seid schon coole typen ;))
I could not agree more! This TKC70 is for sure geared more towards street and an occasional dirt road, rather than the hard stuff we put it through. That being said, it took more work ... but it got us through! Thanks for watching! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Great video! Bought a set of TKC70 literally on a whim while touring through Germany. Have had 5 sets of Anakee Adventure before this. On two different motorcycles. Of late have had both on a 2019 1290 Super Adventure S. With the Anakee Adventure I rode the bike over Strada dell Assietta in Italy. While not ideal they pulled me safely through. Which I consider a feat for these tires.
Switching to TKC70 the first thing I noticed was that they felt less stable than AA on pavement while brand new. Tracking when road surface was uneven. Fortunately they improved while putting on mileage. I also agree that calling them 60/40 is to take it way too far. IMHO Anakee Adventure is better on some times of gravel and dirt, but the TKC70 feels more planted on certain types of pavement.
Today I cannot say TKC70 beats Anakee Adventure. Need more experience. For longevity they probably are a better solution. But longevity doesn't help much when you find yourself on demanding roads. So when these are shot I'll probably try Trailmax Mission :) Cheers
Wow thank you very much for the great insight on your experience with your tires. Much appreciated. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.
Lots of comment about the rear and nothing about the important donut, the front tyre! Ok right at the end. ...good comments.
Thank you for watching and for your comment. I have been trying (since this was made) to speak about the front and rear tire individually instead of "as a set" so you can get more clear information about each tire respectively. - Kyle
Thanks a lot for this kind of tests.
As I know, you are the only ones making such crude and intuitive comparisons. Keep going in this way!
Thank you for watching Giulio. I began this type of "review" on my personal channel and the feedback was fantastic. Taking it to a global level, I brought the format to work and was able to make use of my team here to created much more engaging videos with a bit of the Raw element still coming through. Happy to be of service. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
I just ordered a set of the 70's. My current tires are essentially slicks. I'm going to be on some dirt roads, but nothing like that riverbed.
Ha! Ha! Enjoy! The TKC70 is a really good tire.
I really appreciate your using the same bike, tester, terrain and sequence to evaluate tires, but your using the same 30 psi in all regardless of how they work in a particular setting, the manufacturers’ recommendations, or the bikes manufacturer’s recommendations. While your tests are long and comprehensive, they may be need to be longer...for example, airing down a tire in the sand as well as at 30 psi. When seeking a unicorn, no stone must be left unturned.
Great feedback Stephen. I really do agree with you. Thanks for watching. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
I currently run Trail Attack 2 on my ‘17 Africa Twin. I run both at 40 PSI. I’ve got 12k on them with around 25% tread depth on the rear. I’m 90% road, 10% trails and dirt roads. I’m replacing them with TKC 70s because a bone punctured the rear. I’ll run the new tires at 40 PSI. Not sure why anyone is surprised the 70s lack off-road. I guess no one reads the manufactures website...
In my opinion, the TKC70 is a pure street tyre with aggressive treading. I've done several sets on them and they are the first tyre model where the front wears down twice as fast as the rear (R1200GS Adv). The grip onroad is fenomenal, but offroad it doesn't rally matter what you pick if it's not knobby tyres.
You make some great points. Thanks for watching.
Excellent test. One of the best I ve ever seen
Glad you liked it!
what is the quieter tires between tkc 70 and trailmax mission ?? merci
I've done tens of thousands of miles on the TKC70 and they are a very good all-purpose tyre. They are NOT a dedicated knobbly, and should not be treated as such. They are NOT a track day tyre, though they can hold their own. They are still quite capable on modest off road sections, if you run the tyres at around 20-25psi. They are quite good on cold and wet roads, which is obviously something that can't easily be reviewed in California.
If you want a good general purpose tyre, then these should be way up on your list of tyres to try.
The centre strip on the back tyre does indeed reduce your dirt traction, but also significantly increases the life of the tyre.
I'll be buying a TKC70 "rocks" rear tyre shortly, and I'm looking forward to trying it out. I expect it to perform much better on dirt, and almost as well on tarmac.
Thank you very much for your insight.
What a great comparison, you guys rock!
Thanks for the positive feedback. Glad you enjoyed it.
Simple knowledge: When it looks like a street tire, when it feels like a street tire it is a street tire.
Thanks for the insight. Ride safe.
Something that wasn't covered in this video that's normally covered in other reviews happened to the the Achilles heel of the TKC70's...
And that is wet pavement, but specifically referring to aquaplaning on the center strip of the rear.
I was really looking forward to your opinion on that matter.
I also appreciate your constant full pressure test over all terrain on all tires. I am running a Tiger 800 with alloy rims and don't yet have confidence to air the tires down at the risk of damaging a rim.
It's all good and well to say how well a tire does offroad when aired down, but that's useless to me if I'm not doing the same myself, so your format works very well for me. Noob, I know...
Thanks for the great reviews.
Hi Martin, unfortunately here in southern California we don't get a lot of rain and therefore we weren't able to adequately test the tires on wet conditions. Enjoy the 800. Thanks for watching.
Good video. Would be nice to have the TKC 70 ROCKS tested. It may have cut down on the screaming like a little girl. lol
The TKC Rocks are on our list.. but have not yet arrived. Patiently waiting. Thanks for watching.
Gents, thanks for another awesome video review ....... I’m stymied as to what to get for my Klr650 ...... it’s just appeared the tkc70 had very little anything in the sand or loose trails, while the 80s shined. And in the road, the 70s looked more street worthy, but the 80s worked there too. I’d hate to spin and washout on any trail, sand, mud just because of a stickier street tire ........ I think you convinced me the tkc 80 are the way to go ....... can I get an amen?
Yes, the TKC 80 would be my choice for you if your ride much off-road. I would recommend you wait a month for the TKC 70 Rocks tire. Check it out: ruclips.net/video/SIcPUOzbE-o/видео.html Or... if you don't mind switching brands, check out the Dunlop Mission Tire: ruclips.net/video/DWyJtSBDYb4/видео.html If you go with the Rocks tire... I would pair it with the TKC 80 front. Thanks for watching. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
This is a awesome video, thanks
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
Great video on comparing the 70's to 80's in the dirt. I really was looking forward to that level of comparison in the street, unfortunately, no mention of how the 80's did in the twisties compared to the 70's. Can you please reply with your thoughts on the twisty feel and grip between the two? Thanks!
Hello, sorry for missing that information. Kyle is no longer with the company. But we can say that from our testing results, we found both tires to be average for their respective categories. The 80/20 is going to perform better all around on pavement/twisties than the 50/50. Here is a link to our testing results. www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
So what is your final verdict to choose between TCK 70 rocks, Dunlop Trailmax, Pirelli STR Rally, Anakee Adventure?
Hello, if you haven't already, take a look at our ADV shootout wrap up: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
Unbiased and comprehensive. Great as usual. Whats your favorite tyre in this category? Going for 60/40 or 70/30 on a vstrom 1000
Thank you for watching monadu. Vstrom 1000, I have had some great fun on a V-strom! I take it you are looking for 60 or 70% Street and the remainder dirt? I would suggest the Shinko 705 tires. I was very surprised about how well those tires performed all the way around. And the price was untouchable. If price is not an option, the Motoz GPS is my favorite "mostly street" but very capable in the dirt too. This TKC70 tire is good too, but did feel the off road traction was as good as the two I have just mentioned. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Very good comparison ...Interesting !
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching.
@ 1:29 front tire is installed in wrong direction
well done !!
Thanks for watching!
So my KTM 390 adventure came with these tires on it and I took it along the Mid-Atlantic back country Discovery route and I was also noticing how they just kind of floated across the loose gravel and stuff. They didn't exactly inspire confidence and seeing them have the same problem just tells me it's not my riding ability that was exactly suspect but maybe the tires instead.
Hello, the TKC70 took 5th overall in our 80/20 ADV tire test. So yeah we think there are better options. Take a look at the results here to see: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
Thank you, Kyle, for another great tire review! I will switch to these next since the Dunlop Trailmax Mission are too off road biased for me. What is your technique to record audio conversion? Packtalk and 2 separate mics combined during post production? It is very clean and professional!
Good choice! Yeah we've used that setup before. Also use the GoPro audio with mics
Good choice! Yeah we've the setup before but also use the Go.
Between the Anakee Adventure and the TKC70, which one has the better grip off road, I'm taking about the rear only. I normally run and Anakee Wild on the front. Love your reviews.
Thank you for your inquiry. I felt the Anakee Adventure to be a better off-road rear tire. There are more side to side voids and the voids are larger which I believe are contributing factors for the better off-road grip. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
I was gonna ask same thing. I just ordered an anakee adventure to replace my tkc 70 on the rear and was wondering how they thought they compared.
Liked my tkc 70 alot, wasn't impresessed with it in the rain. Uselss in the mud (to be expected), poor in loose rocks. Great on hardpack dirt, decent on normal gravel
I'm also looking at the Shinko 705, seems like it could be a great option for the rear also.
Can not find a rear tube type tk80 for the African twin... very annoying!
dang that hill climb 16:30
It was a fun time. Thanks for watching.
Dry riverbed soft sand looks tough. Mud only thing worse.
Yes, it can be a workout ;)
now ya gotta review the go between tkc rocks
Thanks for the suggestion.
Great Video guys keep going!! dunlop meridean vs michelin anakee adventure what do you think of this two?
Hello, thanks. Sorry we did not test the Meridian
Awesome video as usual. Do you have access to the new TKC70 Rocks tyre as yet for review ?
Hi Ian, thanks for watching. If we do another round of testing that may be in the que.
I have no idea how you saved it up that hill. Lots of skill, some luck, and a whole lot of courage. Those bikes are heavy. They do not look fun in those conditions.
Hahah. Thanks.
I recently purchased a 2007 bmw f650 gs and I'm trying to figure out what tire to get. It has metzlers on there but I noticed there are some lumps on tires probably from inproper inflation. I will be mostly street but want something that will handle off road really well. First time riding a dual sport bike
Awesome! Congrats on your bike purchase. Any of the 80/20 tires we have tested will be amazing on the street and will handle an occasional gravel road. Do you have a brand preference? Are you looking for the most cost effective? How "rough" is the off road you plan to do? Looking forward to your response. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports hi Kyle. We have mostly grass here. Some rocks, mud etc. But I want to try and get into all kinds of off roading adventures more than on road. Trying to stay away from cars. I know the bike/walking trail I use to ride had a mixture of gravel/dirt/mud depending on if it rained. So I wanted to take it over there and see. Dont have a brand preference. Just want something good for both.
I watched your review on the shinkos 705, what's your take between the tkc70s and the shinkos?
I felt that the Shinko 705 was a better dirt tire. More traction in all dirt situations. Both tires were good on they highway, but I feel the TKC70 was a bit more responsive and gave better feedback from the road. More sportbikeish and less cruisertireish... if that makes sense. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
I think a TKC 70 is a 90/10 tire. 90% street, 10% off road, and that offroad should be limited to gravel or smooth bladed freshly cut dirt fire roads, at least for here in Southern California. These guys are very close to desert conditions out where they ride in San Bernadino County, CA. I would not think much of taking my 1250 GS Trophy in the dirt, or sand, on the trails these guys are taking.... Pretty similar to the Michelin Anakee Adventure tire. Not a good tire for riding on baby head rocks, the TKC70, or sand or eroded fire roads.
Ok. Thank you for your input.
I am a total beginner and just getting started off-road and am looking to replace my stock Anakee 3's on my F750GS.....I need all the help I can get from my tires off-road without taking the fun and safety out of the road twisties which is the main riding I do. TKC70 or Anakee Adventure?
Welcome to the Adv Club Herb! It's so much fun! The TKC70 and the Anakee Adventure are very similar tires. Having ridden both in most all types of terrain, I like the Anakee Adventure just a little better than the TKC70. I feel the Anakee Adventure is just a little more off-road capable than the TKC70. Both handle the twisties beautifully. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Chaparral Motorsports - Thank you for yet another great review. You have set the world standard for tyre reviews ! Like Herb Chin I am also a beginner in dirt on my R1250gs. What do you think about the Karoo Street vs the Anakee Adventure for their off-road capabilities ?
@@vtv8man Welcome to the ADV world! The Anakee Adventure is a far superior off-road tire than the Karoo Street. Gravel and rocky roads were much easier on the Anakee Adventure than the Karoo Street. Both were rather equal on pavement. The longevity we have seen from the Anakee Adventure is superior too... The Karoo Street did give better "feedback from the road" and if I were to run a track day on my GSA... and could only pick from these two tires - I would pick the Karoo Street. All other scenarios I'd run the Anakee Adventure. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Chaparral Motorsports - thank you for the response and insight. If I wanted to swap to a tyre for some trips that had slightly better off-road capability than the Anakee Adventures is there something you would suggest ?
I like the Anakee Adventures for my regular commute and fun on the twisty roads but need more help for some of my upcoming trips where I will do lots of dirt roads.
@@vtv8man Yes Sir! My favorites are as follows: Motoz RallZ, Bridgestone AX41 and Michelin Anakee Wild. The Motoz will be the "longest lasting" most aggressive. The AX41 will give you the best "road feel" and is amazing off road. Half the mileage of the Motoz. The Anakee Wild is the most "dirt oriented" tire that still does good on street but is less street orientated than the previously mentioned tires. Hope that helps! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
ok cool I just thought it was just my inexperience with the diffability of the TKC70
yeah they can be a struggle sometimes.
went out on a trail today, and turned of TC made a big difference.
Do you guys have Metzeler Tourance over there? What would you choose: the TKC70s or the Metzelers? I do just ligth off-roading on an R1200 GSA (2017)?
Hello, yes we have the Tourance tires. Sorry we haven't spent much time on the Tourance so we can 't really speak on them.
Absolut top
Thanks
Any dual sport larger than 400lbs is going to have trouble in anything deeper than 1" of sand. That's the trouble with adventure bikes today is they cater so much to the travel comforts and road power that they are almost useless when off road. If you stick to harder packed dirt roads you'll be much better off. And do NOT ride in deep sand washes EVER.. as he was doing in the video most of the time.
Hi Rowdy, you make a good point, however, as Kyle demonstrated in the video it is possible to ride big/heavy adventure bikes in deep sand. It all comes down to riding skills/ability and confidence. Sure it takes a lot of work and concentration but it can be done--obviously it can be tiring if done for long durations as well. Thanks for watching.
Kyle did okay, he also demonstrated my point well.
@@chaparralmotorsports There's no way I'm risking jamming some R1250 GSA cylinder heads and 600 lbs of bike into that rock and sand loaded Santa Ana Riverbed you guys were riding in. Mega Uber $$$$$$ damage risk on those heads and jugs.
Only tubeless?
Hello, yes these are only available as tubeless.
How is TkC 70 vs Metz Karoo Street ?
They are pretty equal, although we found we can often get a little bit more mileage out of the TKC70s
I’m curious about a more aggressive front like a tkc80 paired with that tkc70 in the rear to capture the extra mileage
Hi Rob, I believe when we were testing that was an idea that came up. Not a bad combination to try. Thanks for watching.
Ha, I've had the same idea... Will fit them to a cb500x and see how they handle I'm hop for 8k before I'll have to swap em out at the sane time
Is it just me? I'm seeing a face inside your back mudguard, a guy with his mouth open and a couple of top teeth, at 23:42 on the video lol. No, I haven't been drinking lol. creepy!
Hahaha. Yea I see it. Just the way the thing was molded I guess. Hahaha.
Review request: Anlas Capra X
Nice! I had to "google" that one! The Anlas Capra X is an aggressive 50/50 Dual Sport tyre for big ADV machines made in the UK for UK riders. I had never heard of nor seen one... found it here: www.anlas-tyres.co.uk/caprax/ It looks like a Metzeler Karoo T... -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports Same ... I had never heard of them. They were on sale at my BMW dealer (Ottawa, Canada) and I had to search for reviews. Blog / website reviews seem pretty positive but no english language reviews on youtube so I thought "these things need the Chaparral Motorsports treatment".
@@MarkDrummond If we could get our hands on a set... we would put them to the test for sure! - Kyle
Completely apropos of nothing at all, I had my first ever slide out / wipe out / minor incident on the pavement with these tires.
@@MarkDrummond The Capra X?
africa twin have tube and the tires are tubeless
Tube Type wheels can accept and use any tubeless tire, they just need to use their tubes. Not a problem. Now it is the opposite that can't be done and causes problems. Thanks for watching. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team