@@nataliamiliano150 I highly doubt you would recommend Shinko’s over Dunlop and such, if your main interest was personal benefit via, sponsored kickbacks. Also his cheaper cost factoring wouldn’t jive with trying to make more $. His opinions seem quite detailed and from personal experience. I don’t see why I wouldn’t trust his. He has access to every tire, gets paid to know the products he sells & suggests, and doesn’t come across as a scripted, promotional attempt for one brand over another.
These recommendations haven't really changed meaningfully enough to make a new video. Most of these tires are still the same and still just as good. Time moves slow in the cycle world
Hello Ryan its been 3 year since your last tire review, there are new tires on the market in the 50/50 bracket, it would be nice to hear your comments 1st The knobby tire Anakee wild , AX 41, Motoz rallz and Mitas Eo 10 2nd The big lug tire Karoo 3, Dunlop trailmax mission, mitas Eo7 + Looking forward to your reviews Cheers for Cape town
My wife and I run the Kenda K270 on our DR650's and we get 14k kms on average. We rode across Canada this pass summer (5800+kms) and the tires performed flawlessly. Best bang for your buck in our opinion. Great video Fortnine team! *T4S*
Sum4Seb i had a set of those on my DR. Fantastic off road. I do more commuting on mine now, so i went with the 705s. Anything is better than the stock tires though.
I have been traveling across the Americas, started in Miami, through Baja, then Mexico down to Panama and across the Darien to Colombia and now entering Bolivia and over 32,000 km so far on Heidenau K60 Scout.s. On my second set after 20,000 km, and could have gone longer. The only issue for me has been the wet slippery red clay on the Ecuador border where I had my first off, exiting a corner they just slid and kept sliding until my inglorious off. Other than that they have been sensational.
Michelin Anakee 3 is made from a single compound. It's hard all around and that shouldn't be a complaint. It's to send feedback to rider when riding off road. After all, it's a dual sport tire. Great video Ryan, as always.
I can vouch for the SHINKO 705's. Had them on a KTM 450 Enduro. ONROAD: never slipped on dry/wet pavement, great cornering, handled highways speeds and were smooth/stable. OFFROAD: excellent in dry hard packed gravel or dirt. Not so good in mud or grass.
I've run 705s on a KLR, a Tiger Explorer and now my Tiger 800. Best for the money period. I've got over 80,000 miles of experience on them. I now am trying the 804/805 combo on the 800 and love them for 50/50 riding.
Mark Jacobs Hi, was it Tiger 800xc or the road version? I'd like to buy Shinko 705 for my Tiger 800xc, but apparently they don't have tube tires in size 90/90/21. Can I use tubless tires?
I just came back from a 11000 km Tour on a BMW R 1200 GS (LC) equipped with a pair of Continental's TKC 70. The route went from Germany via the Baltic States, Finland, Norway up to the Nordkapp, then southward along the norwegian westcoast to Langesund, via ferry to Denmark and finally back to Germany. The outside air temperature ranged from 35°C (95°F) down to 2°C (35°F) with lots of sun, rain and even some snow. I came across all kinds of roads from perfect to dirt track. The TKC 70 proved to be a wonderful tire. Comfortable, low rolling noise, very reliable with lots of grip under all road conditions, good directional stability, agile with almost no diminishing handling after lots of wear and even providing a high mileage (I made the whole trip on one set of tires). And most importantly: There was no wobbling of the front tire whatsoever. I even considered using this tire as my standard.
The Shinko 805 is an awesome tyre; I went through three on my Africa Twin (see it in the F9 review video ;) ) my last one lasted from Utah off road to the Oregon coast THEN on road from Oregon to Victoria(BC) and back to Montreal.
Brilliant review of the current dual sport tires. You tell it exactly the way it is and get the essential points across succinctly. I do quite long off road hauls, like the extended version of the TAT in August 2015. I flew from England with my KTM690 into Montreal on Air Canada (bless them, cheaper than shipping and on my bike within an hour of landing) then crossed 14 states in the US before riding up to Vancouver to fly back.On that 7,500 mile trip I went through 3 rear TCK80's and frankly I should have used K60s from the Canadian border to Mississippi which was 70 per cent tarmac and then as it changed to 85% dirt from Mississippi onwards over the Rockies and across Utah and Nevada I should have used Dunlop D606's . Before I set off from Heathrow on Air Canada later this year to New Zealand with my bike I will be certain to check out your channel for any updates. Thanks pal for a great contribution.
Hey Ryan you do excellent commentaries. I've been riding over 50 years. I have had my motorcycle endorsement for 47 years.I have Been a motorcycle mechanic for 40 years. I mainly work on the Big Four Honda Yamaha Kawasaki Suzuki dirt and Street. I have been running the Shinko tires for as long as they've been out dirt and Street. Bottom line is if you don't ride for a living this is the best tire for the money hands down.
I bought a shinko yesterday and I'm amazed of its performance. Definitely a 50/50 for me. Roads in my city are not good which makes shinko perfect for my everyday commute.
Oh I watched this video 2 years ago and again today. My small 150cc bike is having now E705 at rear and 244 at front both from shinko and both were in this video😁 I think Ryan will approve 😁👍 great video
His videos are absolutely cracking. I’m using Pirelli Scorpion 🦂 Rally STR Tires on my KTM Duke 125 just had them fitted 200 miles ago and so far so good.
I would give a good shoutout for the Michelin Anakee Wild-tyres, I have them on my R1200GSA LC and they handle really well on road as well as offroad. The rear tyre usually makes about 8000km's and front tyre somewhere between 15000-20000km's.
i rock the shinko 705's on mostly pavement and love them. for a heavy bike they also give enough to do mild fire roads and are pretty good until the sand or muck gets over a couple inches deep. the turn in on the front is really slow but you get used to it and it feels really planted till you get to the limit. use these awesome things and leave with almost an extra $100 in your pocket compared to it's competition.
Hi Ryan. I believe I gave you the same comment last year. Not mentioning Mitas 07s (sorry i said 09s) is not talking about one of the best 50-50 tires if not the best in the market. Anyways, you still rock! thanks for your awesome videos!
I appreciate your honest, no BS and highly informed reviews. On this review I appreciated your opinion near the end of tires for lighter bikes. I just bought a Versys X 300 and I'm considering the Shinko 244 as the stock tires are way too street oriented for my tastes.
I love my TKC80 front tire - super stable, it absolutely got rid of the head sway I was experiencing with my previous knobby (the terrible IRC TR8 - buyer beware). I've got a Shinko 805 to try out next on the rear. Not sure if I can stray from my beloved TKC80 front even though I haven't tried much else...it just does everything I want it to!
I have to agree with your light dual sport suggestion. Used an mt21 front and 606 rear on a trip through utah and colorado in 2013. Great wear, and still sticky on pavement. Last year used the shinko 244 and loved it for longevity. Have not tried the anakee 3 yet, but the compound worked great in the wet commuting on my vstrom. Currently using 705 front and rear on my versys, and although a bit sketch at the limit or in wet, cost can not be beat. Keep up the great reviews.
Just got in my new front tire for my 2020 Tw200 (Shinko 244 5.10-18) I've heard so many good things. The tread depth is a lot beefer than I expected! Time to replace the "death wing" .....
I purchased a set of Shinko 705 tires based partially on your recommendation and ended up with a bad front . The wheel would produce oscillation at certain speeds . Now this is not indicative of these tires and I will try them again in the future but it illustrates a need to test the tires after they are installed. Give them some love as new tires are notoriously awkward but look for oscillation at higher speeds. I did get to try them at low speeds on broken rock and loose gravel in a hill situation. Despite being a terribly new person to off road they were comfortably stable. I felt like the bike was sure footed and responsive using these tires.
Great review Ryan. Yours is the only one with any decent information on the Tractionator GPS and has convinced me try one on my Ducati Enduro. I was struggling to decide whether to mount in the 50/50 or mostly off-road direction as I have a lengthy road ride in a few weeks. Considering I don't really notice the bumpiness or noise of the Pirelli Scorpion Rally and prefer maximum grip when venturing off-road, I'm swaying towards just leaving it in mostly off-road instead of flipping it around to suit the ride.
Something to mention with the Shinko 244 is the speed rating. They're only L rated, so if your bike does more than 75mph, don't get the 244. The K270 is rated for 93, so it isn't much better, but for someone on a KLR that does highway miles in between trails, being able to do 80 is nice.
Thanks Ryan for more than good information for on/off skins. I'm in Michigan and ride rain or shine on an "07" 883 Sportster. Off road tires are good for most highways in this U.S. State; All the roads are "sucko". In my opinion 50/50 tires are the best choice, in the cities too! Thanks man for the great job! James Smith.
I love the Michelin Sirac tires. For me they are Perfect! lots of predictable solid grip on road and very good off-road capabilities! i have bought them for 3 bikes so far and loved them!
sweet! I'm running K60 scout rear and a TCK80 front on my 03 F650GS and love em so far, first season. Cool thing is that my size of K60 does NOT have the solid bar centre but has quite the spacing throughout the tire profile.
Awesome review R9; very comprehensive! My Mitas E-07's are just about shot, so this review is perfect timing - E-07's are great in dry dirt and even good wet dirt, but just okay on pavement (front floats on grooves). Shinko 705's are excellent on my Triumph Tiger 800xc for serious knee dragging and decent DRY dirt riding and slide very predictably on asphalt. I've been wanting Tractionators... but last I checked they're not in my size (90/90-21 front is limiting).
Second set of Annakee 3's and have never had a puncture. Mixed riding . 2600 km tour of Newfoundland no issues. Lots of mixed trails and beaches. Did get over 17,ooo on the set. They do hate wet grass. But then so do I ha .... Never had any wobble or slip in turns not even wet turns . 2012 KLR650 .
Motoz Tractionator GPS was my tyre of choice ( mounted in the off road direction) on my Tiger 800XCx for 50/50 use. My buddy on a KTM 990 hated the Motoz GPS ( mounted road directions) on wet sealed roads. I also got good service from the Mitas E07 as a 50/50 tyre.
nice comparison. ive run the tkc80 and d606 rear... d606 is by farvrhe best dual sport tire ive had. pushing it hard on and off road i got around 8000kms. the tkc80 is amazingly grippy on the road but it wears down so fast and the knobs start of so small that after 500kms the knobs are not even up to scratch in the mud and dirt. the tkc80 is great if u dont mind changing it every 2 to 3000kms. however the tkc80 front is awesome... so the ultimate pairing is d606 rear with tkc80 front.
Thanks for the great review 👍 You didn't mention the Pirelli Scorpion MT 90 A/T which is great on road and pretty good on dry tracks and gravel - similar to the Continental TKC70. Cheers 😊
What would be the tire of choice for: * All-year riding * good in rain * not-a-catastrophe-if-there's-a-little-snow-on-the-road * mostly tarmac, only occasional light off-roading to get from A to B * as good as possible for curvy street riding * no mud
FYI...Continental TKC80 is made in Korea by Shinko to Continental's specs. Shinko designed the 804/805 to be slightly better hence the better wear factor & as good or better performance. Look on TKC sidewall & you'll see "made in Korea". Trace the DOT numbers to Shinko factory. You can't go wrong with the 804/805.
804/805 in my experience gets significantly better mileage than the TKC80s. They're also at least here in the US significantly cheaper. It's a tiny bit more to buy one TKC Rear than to buy a full set of Shinkos.
Ryan you and this channel litterly and my life easier and save my life and all kinds of shit. You should be proud of the effort and truth you put in your work. 🙏🏽
Mile hunter 93 how do? did I make a comment? sorry, I don't remember. however for the record, I put the midas e07 on my wee vstrom and love them. so surprisingly sticky on the bitumen
Ryan, love your reviews. and you are very quick to respond to comments, which is very helpful. I do have a question in this arena. You mentioned your "beloved Heidenau K60 Scouts," but they did not make your list. I am a fan of them too, mostly due to their long lives (19,000 km back and 25,000 km front on a 1200GS) and good all around handling. Am i living in the past? What am I giving up by running them?
Hello! The short answer to your question is no - you're not living in the past. The K60 is still a phenomenal tire in terms of mileage, especially considering how well it handles off-road. Expect to see a lot of ADV guys still wearing them in 2017. And 2018. And probably 2019. *But* the Tractionator GPS (from this video) does the same job as the K60 and lasts a smidge longer. Plus it's reversible and that brings some versatility to the table. Most people will never flip the tire around anyway, but the fact that you *could* flip it to get more off-road traction is enough to choose it over the K60. Hope that helps! ~RyanF9
I could not wait to tear off my Karoo 3's. Scary on anything but paved roads. Good on pavement, and gives bragging rights for visual design, but they are not for me. I liked the old Karoo 2's better. Even though the 3's last longer. The achilles of the Karoo 3 is the sideways grip in the loose stuff. Hope that helps:)
I just hit 10,000 kilometres on my Pirelli MT 60's on my KLR and they are still absolutely brand new. They don't get a great rep for some reason, but I've found them better that TKC 80's, Mitas, Dunlop's, ect. I want to try Shinkos next but it'll be hard to get another tire...
Well, the K60 didn't make it into this year's line-up, the Tractinator GPS seems to have knocked the Heidi off the throne. The K60 tends to be a mixed bag for many people. I myself had it on the 800GSA like the one in the back of the room and was very happy. It handled well in the dry, in the wet, in the soft, anywhere really and there was no howling or vibration that many others had reported. After getting the 1200GS this year and putting them on - completely different story. Stiff, felt like riding wooden tires. Front was obnoxiously loud, howling and vibrating at pretty much any speed. After switching to TKC80, just couldn't believe how more comfortable TKC's felt in comparison - softer, quieter, super confidence inspiring off-road and handled almost unbelievably well on pavement too. I might try the E805's you mention next - could be a cheaper alternative.
Worst dual tired ever, the ones that comes on the Africa Twin (Dunlop). Have several friends that damage the inner tube of the front tire after riding off road with the stock tires (nothing nasty). Got my brand new AT and I'm looking for a replacement, even though current tires are brand new. Thank you for the video, now I have a good idea about where to look.
All your videos are top notch and straight forward as well as informative. I have a Vrod and Ktm 450 exc. You have helped me tremendously although I have not picked my choices yet. Leaning Michelin Scorcher as I have a 240 on rear. Ktm 450 exc looks like D606 rear and M21 front. You made awesome suggestions in all your videos. Tell me if you agree with my choices as I am in no hurry. Tomorrow will be fine, lol!!
I was a huge fan of the k60 but they wear flat in 4000km and then bike is very wobbly (I tried both 130 and a 140 on the rear). The front can last 18000km. Now Im using shinko 804/805 on my triumph scrambler, they wear more evenly performe just as well and are like half the price of the k60.Rear lasts about 6000km like the k60, but it handles great all the way as opposed to the k60). You will change the front for every 2 rear tires.
Nice video. Thanks for the upload, dude. Personally I'm a big fan of the Pirelli Scorpion MT 90A/T... I've been using these tyres for a while on small capacity dual purpose motorcycles. I'd say that's about 80/20 or 70/30 Road/Offroad orientated. Great grip on the asphalt (even in the wet) and on rocky terrain. Not good in the mud, grass and sand though... It can lean to crazy angles in the corners on the asphalt and still has a great longevity. Plus the ride is smooth without any vibrations.
Excellent as always. As a new KLR owner I'm looking for what will replace the OEM tires and this was entertainly informative... which keeps my attention. lol I'm looking at the Michelin Anakee Wild on the rear and maybe the TKC80 on the front. I'd just go with the Dunlop D606 except I can't find them in the KLR rear's 130/80x17 size.
I see you like the Tractionators better than the Mitas E07, so I won't ask why you don't include them in the list. I would say that I very much liked the Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tires on my Tiger Explorer. They're 90-10 tires supposedly, but I think they beat the Anakee 3 tires. Thanks for the review!
I have the tkc70. It's way better then I expected honestly. Plenty of grip on the street and in the twisies. The front has plenty of grip offroad as well. You can push the rear out quite easily on gravel while the bike is upright. As soon as you lean in it grips though. Heaps of fun. Also my bike (tenere) doesn't wobble at all. Maxed it out on the autobahn ~180kph no problem. The only limitation is mud. The rear cakes up faster then say a tkc80
Thank you for giving us true and meaningful review. I ride a Africa Twin and you made my choice up. Going for the Shinko 805..ASAP P.S Revzilla is good and I rate them High on reviews and suggest them to any one and every one, but your reviews is so much more entertaining, fun to watch and I actually remember things you say, said, said and say... Haha Don't let the great spirit die!
If you own a new Africa Twin, beware - the rear 150 cross section limits your choices - no Tourances or Anakee's will fit (except Anakee Wilds) - Ive gone for Mitas E07's - so far, so good. Any chance of you reviewing these Ryan? Cheers for another great vid :)
Given that it's 2020, any chance we'll see another update to this video? Trying to make some choices, and I trust f9 over pretty much everyone else...
Sounds like that’s a no. And why do you trust him? I have mixed feelings. I feel like he only showcases stuff he gets paid to showcase 🤷🏻♀️
@@nataliamiliano150 I highly doubt you would recommend Shinko’s over Dunlop and such, if your main interest was personal benefit via, sponsored kickbacks.
Also his cheaper cost factoring wouldn’t jive with trying to make more $.
His opinions seem quite detailed and from personal experience. I don’t see why I wouldn’t trust his. He has access to every tire, gets paid to know the products he sells & suggests, and doesn’t come across as a scripted, promotional attempt for one brand over another.
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These recommendations haven't really changed meaningfully enough to make a new video. Most of these tires are still the same and still just as good. Time moves slow in the cycle world
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Hello Ryan its been 3 year since your last tire review, there are new tires on the market in the 50/50 bracket, it would be nice to hear your comments 1st The knobby tire Anakee wild , AX 41, Motoz rallz and Mitas Eo 10
2nd The big lug tire Karoo 3, Dunlop trailmax mission, mitas Eo7 +
Looking forward to your reviews
Cheers for Cape town
I don't even own a dual sport and you just made me want to buy tires.
Nothing better than the smell of fresh rubber.
And Napalm
in the morning
Just put these tires on your sport bike and maybe some wider bars and hit the dirt?
I don't even own a motorcycle and I enjoy every of his videos.
My wife and I run the Kenda K270 on our DR650's and we get 14k kms on average. We rode across Canada this pass summer (5800+kms) and the tires performed flawlessly. Best bang for your buck in our opinion. Great video Fortnine team! *T4S*
Sum4Seb i had a set of those on my DR. Fantastic off road. I do more commuting on mine now, so i went with the 705s. Anything is better than the stock tires though.
Since February 2016, Continental changed the TKC-70 and they don't wobble anymore. Excellent tyres for my R1200GS.
I have been traveling across the Americas, started in Miami, through Baja, then Mexico down to Panama and across the Darien to Colombia and now entering Bolivia and over 32,000 km so far on Heidenau K60 Scout.s. On my second set after 20,000 km, and could have gone longer. The only issue for me has been the wet slippery red clay on the Ecuador border where I had my first off, exiting a corner they just slid and kept sliding until my inglorious off. Other than that they have been sensational.
Michelin Anakee 3 is made from a single compound. It's hard all around and that shouldn't be a complaint. It's to send feedback to rider when riding off road. After all, it's a dual sport tire. Great video Ryan, as always.
I can vouch for the SHINKO 705's. Had them on a KTM 450 Enduro.
ONROAD: never slipped on dry/wet pavement, great cornering, handled highways speeds and were smooth/stable.
OFFROAD: excellent in dry hard packed gravel or dirt. Not so good in mud or grass.
What about sand? Well it's not a full on knobbie so the problem with mud and grass is expected. I'm thinking of switching my Pilot Road 4s for them.
Maximum Kek No experience in sand. sorry
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Which tyres would you recommend for a WR250r? I mainly ride on pavement
Thanks to this video I just bought a pair of Shinzo 705 for my 2000 KLR650!!
Your reviews are head and shoulders above most others I have seen. Great editing for relevance. Thank you for not wasting my time.
Recently switched from TKC70 to the Anakee III on my KLR and couldn't agree more.
You can also consider the Michelin Anekee Adventure tire for 80/20 riding. I am really happy with it so far.
I've run 705s on a KLR, a Tiger Explorer and now my Tiger 800. Best for the money period. I've got over 80,000 miles of experience on them. I now am trying the 804/805 combo on the 800 and love them for 50/50 riding.
Mark Jacobs
Hi, was it Tiger 800xc or the road version? I'd like to buy Shinko 705 for my Tiger 800xc, but apparently they don't have tube tires in size 90/90/21. Can I use tubless tires?
@@borysdewar9741YES, but still put tube in ;-)
I just came back from a 11000 km Tour on a BMW R 1200 GS (LC) equipped with a pair of Continental's TKC 70. The route went from Germany via the Baltic States, Finland, Norway up to the Nordkapp, then southward along the norwegian westcoast to Langesund, via ferry to Denmark and finally back to Germany. The outside air temperature ranged from 35°C (95°F) down to 2°C (35°F) with lots of sun, rain and even some snow. I came across all kinds of roads from perfect to dirt track. The TKC 70 proved to be a wonderful tire. Comfortable, low rolling noise, very reliable with lots of grip under all road conditions, good directional stability, agile with almost no diminishing handling after lots of wear and even providing a high mileage (I made the whole trip on one set of tires). And most importantly: There was no wobbling of the front tire whatsoever. I even considered using this tire as my standard.
Just ordered a pair of Shinkos for my xr650l and was happy to see fortnine talking about them.
As always, excellent video Ryan. 🤘
I've got the D606 rear MT21 front combo on my XR650L and it corners like it's on rails both on and offroad
The Shinko 805 is an awesome tyre; I went through three on my Africa Twin (see it in the F9 review video ;) ) my last one lasted from Utah off road to the Oregon coast THEN on road from Oregon to Victoria(BC) and back to Montreal.
Brilliant review of the current dual sport tires. You tell it exactly the way it is and get the essential points across succinctly. I do quite long off road hauls, like the extended version of the TAT in August 2015. I flew from England with my KTM690 into Montreal on Air Canada (bless them, cheaper than shipping and on my bike within an hour of landing) then crossed 14 states in the US before riding up to Vancouver to fly back.On that 7,500 mile trip I went through 3 rear TCK80's and frankly I should have used K60s from the Canadian border to Mississippi which was 70 per cent tarmac and then as it changed to 85% dirt from Mississippi onwards over the Rockies and across Utah and Nevada I should have used Dunlop D606's . Before I set off from Heathrow on Air Canada later this year to New Zealand with my bike I will be certain to check out your channel for any updates. Thanks pal for a great contribution.
New Tire review coming ?
2019 !
Yes please!
1silvervespa when please? I’d appreciate the GT variants being reviewed as I ride one of those two wheeled land cruisers (K1600 GTL). Thanks.
Perfect balance of facts, opinion, and entertainment. Great vid.
Hey Ryan you do excellent commentaries. I've been riding over 50 years. I have had my motorcycle endorsement for 47 years.I have Been a motorcycle mechanic for 40 years. I mainly work on the Big Four Honda Yamaha Kawasaki Suzuki dirt and Street. I have been running the Shinko tires for as long as they've been out dirt and Street. Bottom line is if you don't ride for a living this is the best tire for the money hands down.
I bought a shinko yesterday and I'm amazed of its performance. Definitely a 50/50 for me. Roads in my city are not good which makes shinko perfect for my everyday commute.
Great review, one tire to add would be the Pirelli Scorpion MT90. I run these on my 950 Adventure and 119OR.
I’m glad I found this channel, thanks for the effort you put into the videos. Pure motivation.
Just bought the Shinko 705 for my new KTM 1290 Super Adventure R. Thanks for the great review!
Oh I watched this video 2 years ago and again today. My small 150cc bike is having now E705 at rear and 244 at front both from shinko and both were in this video😁 I think Ryan will approve 😁👍 great video
Dude, I really appreciate the quality of your videos. Great presenting!
His videos are absolutely cracking. I’m using Pirelli Scorpion 🦂 Rally STR Tires on my KTM Duke 125 just had them fitted 200 miles ago and so far so good.
I would give a good shoutout for the Michelin Anakee Wild-tyres, I have them on my R1200GSA LC and they handle really well on road as well as offroad.
The rear tyre usually makes about 8000km's and front tyre somewhere between 15000-20000km's.
i rock the shinko 705's on mostly pavement and love them. for a heavy bike they also give enough to do mild fire roads and are pretty good until the sand or muck gets over a couple inches deep. the turn in on the front is really slow but you get used to it and it feels really planted till you get to the limit. use these awesome things and leave with almost an extra $100 in your pocket compared to it's competition.
The 805/4s are worth trying and do fine roadwise
Hi Ryan. I believe I gave you the same comment last year. Not mentioning Mitas 07s (sorry i said 09s) is not talking about one of the best 50-50 tires if not the best in the market. Anyways, you still rock! thanks for your awesome videos!
The quality and conciseness of your videos is exemplary. Other companies should learn.... If you are ever passing through Thunder Bay ON let me know.
I appreciate your honest, no BS and highly informed reviews. On this review I appreciated your opinion near the end of tires for lighter bikes. I just bought a Versys X 300 and I'm considering the Shinko 244 as the stock tires are way too street oriented for my tastes.
Great review man. I run the Shinko 805 on my super tenere and they are absolutely fantastic.
I love my TKC80 front tire - super stable, it absolutely got rid of the head sway I was experiencing with my previous knobby (the terrible IRC TR8 - buyer beware). I've got a Shinko 805 to try out next on the rear. Not sure if I can stray from my beloved TKC80 front even though I haven't tried much else...it just does everything I want it to!
I definitely remember some Metzeler tire that look just like that
I have to agree with your light dual sport suggestion. Used an mt21 front and 606 rear on a trip through utah and colorado in 2013. Great wear, and still sticky on pavement. Last year used the shinko 244 and loved it for longevity. Have not tried the anakee 3 yet, but the compound worked great in the wet commuting on my vstrom. Currently using 705 front and rear on my versys, and although a bit sketch at the limit or in wet, cost can not be beat. Keep up the great reviews.
Just got in my new front tire for my 2020 Tw200 (Shinko 244 5.10-18) I've heard so many good things. The tread depth is a lot beefer than I expected! Time to replace the "death wing" .....
I purchased a set of Shinko 705 tires based partially on your recommendation and ended up with a bad front . The wheel would produce oscillation at certain speeds . Now this is not indicative of these tires and I will try them again in the future but it illustrates a need to test the tires after they are installed. Give them some love as new tires are notoriously awkward but look for oscillation at higher speeds. I did get to try them at low speeds on broken rock and loose gravel in a hill situation. Despite being a terribly new person to off road they were comfortably stable. I felt like the bike was sure footed and responsive using these tires.
On my Bike TKC 70 are awesome. Not worried about $100 bucks
enjoyed your video
Ryan, these are the best, most informative videos I have seen. Keep it up! Now take my money!
Like my 85/15 Metzeler Tourance on my GS. Great commuting / touring and can turn off onto truck trails and fire roads. Good balance if you ride a lot.
Spring 2022 and I’m going to try the Heidenau Scouts for pending adventures.
Oh boy we're back on track. Happy new year RyanF9 and I'm looking forward to all the vids this year.
A3's just HOWL! Came on my GS, and couldn't wait to get them off!
Great review Ryan. Yours is the only one with any decent information on the Tractionator GPS and has convinced me try one on my Ducati Enduro. I was struggling to decide whether to mount in the 50/50 or mostly off-road direction as I have a lengthy road ride in a few weeks. Considering I don't really notice the bumpiness or noise of the Pirelli Scorpion Rally and prefer maximum grip when venturing off-road, I'm swaying towards just leaving it in mostly off-road instead of flipping it around to suit the ride.
Something to mention with the Shinko 244 is the speed rating. They're only L rated, so if your bike does more than 75mph, don't get the 244. The K270 is rated for 93, so it isn't much better, but for someone on a KLR that does highway miles in between trails, being able to do 80 is nice.
Your knowledge is amazing.
Thanks Ryan for more than good information for on/off skins. I'm in Michigan and ride rain or shine on an "07" 883 Sportster. Off road tires are good for most highways in this U.S. State; All the roads are "sucko". In my opinion 50/50 tires are the best choice, in the cities too! Thanks man for the great job! James Smith.
I love the Michelin Sirac tires. For me they are Perfect! lots of predictable solid grip on road and very good off-road capabilities! i have bought them for 3 bikes so far and loved them!
I have the Anakee 3 on my XL1000v but as far as i know its a duo compound tire. i absolutely love it by the way
705s on my KLR. Great tire 👍🏾 Mostly street riding.
For aggressive 90% off road on my Husaberg 570 I run the Motoz Tractionator D ( Intermediate compound ) and it's very good. Excellent all round.
Best Review and explanation on Tyres I've seen .... Thanks from sunny Wales and keep up the good work :)
sweet! I'm running K60 scout rear and a TCK80 front on my 03 F650GS and love em so far, first season. Cool thing is that my size of K60 does NOT have the solid bar centre but has quite the spacing throughout the tire profile.
Need to find a professional review of the new Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR to compare with the TKC70
Did u find any?
i just got a set of Pirelli Scorpion STRs. ready for the season
Excellent evaluation. Thank You.
Awesome review R9; very comprehensive! My Mitas E-07's are just about shot, so this review is perfect timing - E-07's are great in dry dirt and even good wet dirt, but just okay on pavement (front floats on grooves). Shinko 705's are excellent on my Triumph Tiger 800xc for serious knee dragging and decent DRY dirt riding and slide very predictably on asphalt. I've been wanting Tractionators... but last I checked they're not in my size (90/90-21 front is limiting).
Second set of Annakee 3's and have never had a puncture.
Mixed riding .
2600 km tour of Newfoundland no issues.
Lots of mixed trails and beaches.
Did get over 17,ooo on the set.
They do hate wet grass.
But then so do I ha ....
Never had any wobble or slip in turns not even wet turns .
2012 KLR650 .
I’d recommend the Shinko 244 Dual Sport Tire if your on enduro on a budget but I’d recommend Dunlop’s if your going to spend more time off road
Motoz Tractionator GPS was my tyre of choice ( mounted in the off road direction) on my Tiger 800XCx for 50/50 use. My buddy on a KTM 990 hated the Motoz GPS ( mounted road directions) on wet sealed roads. I also got good service from the Mitas E07 as a 50/50 tyre.
Thanks! I'm heading to Fortnine to buy some Shinko 705s!
Please review the Avon trail rider and Pirelli MT60 RS and MT90 tyres.
nice comparison. ive run the tkc80 and d606 rear... d606 is by farvrhe best dual sport tire ive had. pushing it hard on and off road i got around 8000kms. the tkc80 is amazingly grippy on the road but it wears down so fast and the knobs start of so small that after 500kms the knobs are not even up to scratch in the mud and dirt. the tkc80 is great if u dont mind changing it every 2 to 3000kms. however the tkc80 front is awesome... so the ultimate pairing is d606 rear with tkc80 front.
Thanks. Very useful for me. Going with the Shinko e705s
Wow that was very descriptive
I appreciate how you stack them up . Thanks
Thanks for the great review 👍
You didn't mention the Pirelli Scorpion MT 90 A/T which is great on road and pretty good on dry tracks and gravel - similar to the Continental TKC70.
Cheers 😊
What would be the tire of choice for:
* All-year riding
* good in rain
* not-a-catastrophe-if-there's-a-little-snow-on-the-road
* mostly tarmac, only occasional light off-roading to get from A to B
* as good as possible for curvy street riding
* no mud
that was very enjoyable to watch, keep making them
you are f*cking Awesome! straight to the chase! well done! this is quality material on youtube
FYI...Continental TKC80 is made in Korea by Shinko to Continental's specs. Shinko designed the 804/805 to be slightly better hence the better wear factor & as good or better performance. Look on TKC sidewall & you'll see "made in Korea". Trace the DOT numbers to Shinko factory. You can't go wrong with the 804/805.
804/805 in my experience gets significantly better mileage than the TKC80s. They're also at least here in the US significantly cheaper. It's a tiny bit more to buy one TKC Rear than to buy a full set of Shinkos.
Ryan you and this channel litterly and my life easier and save my life and all kinds of shit. You should be proud of the effort and truth you put in your work. 🙏🏽
hey bud
great tire review
i have the dunlop 606,,,,(thumbs up)
Alaskan dual sport Chris
Yulinbilla David William you are late to the party
Mile hunter 93 how do? did I make a comment? sorry, I don't remember. however for the record, I put the midas e07 on my wee vstrom and love them. so surprisingly sticky on the bitumen
how so
I just saw that comment re Alaskan blahs blahs... that wasn't me
Time for an update /refresh!
Ryan, love your reviews. and you are very quick to respond to comments, which is very helpful. I do have a question in this arena. You mentioned your "beloved Heidenau K60 Scouts," but they did not make your list. I am a fan of them too, mostly due to their long lives (19,000 km back and 25,000 km front on a 1200GS) and good all around handling. Am i living in the past? What am I giving up by running them?
Hello! The short answer to your question is no - you're not living in the past. The K60 is still a phenomenal tire in terms of mileage, especially considering how well it handles off-road. Expect to see a lot of ADV guys still wearing them in 2017. And 2018. And probably 2019. *But* the Tractionator GPS (from this video) does the same job as the K60 and lasts a smidge longer. Plus it's reversible and that brings some versatility to the table. Most people will never flip the tire around anyway, but the fact that you *could* flip it to get more off-road traction is enough to choose it over the K60. Hope that helps! ~RyanF9
What about the Karoo 3s?
+1 Karoo 3s ??
The tire?
I could not wait to tear off my Karoo 3's. Scary on anything but paved roads. Good on pavement, and gives bragging rights for visual design, but they are not for me. I liked the old Karoo 2's better. Even though the 3's last longer. The achilles of the Karoo 3 is the sideways grip in the loose stuff. Hope that helps:)
I just hit 10,000 kilometres on my Pirelli MT 60's on my KLR and they are still absolutely brand new. They don't get a great rep for some reason, but I've found them better that TKC 80's, Mitas, Dunlop's, ect. I want to try Shinkos next but it'll be hard to get another tire...
Love you Ryan!
Well, the K60 didn't make it into this year's line-up, the Tractinator GPS seems to have knocked the Heidi off the throne. The K60 tends to be a mixed bag for many people. I myself had it on the 800GSA like the one in the back of the room and was very happy. It handled well in the dry, in the wet, in the soft, anywhere really and there was no howling or vibration that many others had reported. After getting the 1200GS this year and putting them on - completely different story. Stiff, felt like riding wooden tires. Front was obnoxiously loud, howling and vibrating at pretty much any speed. After switching to TKC80, just couldn't believe how more comfortable TKC's felt in comparison - softer, quieter, super confidence inspiring off-road and handled almost unbelievably well on pavement too. I might try the E805's you mention next - could be a cheaper alternative.
Worst dual tired ever, the ones that comes on the Africa Twin (Dunlop). Have several friends that damage the inner tube of the front tire after riding off road with the stock tires (nothing nasty). Got my brand new AT and I'm looking for a replacement, even though current tires are brand new. Thank you for the video, now I have a good idea about where to look.
For a 250 or less dual sport that is on dirt a lot try the Kanda K760.
An MX tire that is DOT and runs OK on roads.
All your videos are top notch and straight forward as well as informative. I have a Vrod and Ktm 450 exc. You have helped me tremendously although I have not picked my choices yet. Leaning Michelin Scorcher as I have a 240 on rear. Ktm 450 exc looks like D606 rear and M21 front. You made awesome suggestions in all your videos. Tell me if you agree with my choices as I am in no hurry. Tomorrow will be fine, lol!!
Great tyre review. Thanks.
Motoz tyres are great Adventure tyre on the front for grip and the Adventure on the rear for long life.
Hey Ryan, long time subscriber first time poster
My question, how about e705 front and tkc70 rear?
Love your stuff, cheers from Chile
Awesome video! Great job!
How about Michelin Anakee Wild? Looks like a really good tire?
I was a huge fan of the k60 but they wear flat in 4000km and then bike is very wobbly (I tried both 130 and a 140 on the rear). The front can last 18000km. Now Im using shinko 804/805 on my triumph scrambler, they wear more evenly performe just as well and are like half the price of the k60.Rear lasts about 6000km like the k60, but it handles great all the way as opposed to the k60). You will change the front for every 2 rear tires.
Nice video. Thanks for the upload, dude.
Personally I'm a big fan of the Pirelli Scorpion MT 90A/T... I've been using these tyres for a while on small capacity dual purpose motorcycles.
I'd say that's about 80/20 or 70/30 Road/Offroad orientated. Great grip on the asphalt (even in the wet) and on rocky terrain. Not good in the mud, grass and sand though... It can lean to crazy angles in the corners on the asphalt and still has a great longevity.
Plus the ride is smooth without any vibrations.
just bought shinko 804/805 for my 2018 vstrom xt based on your info
Excellent as always.
As a new KLR owner I'm looking for what will replace the OEM tires and this was entertainly informative... which keeps my attention. lol I'm looking at the Michelin Anakee Wild on the rear and maybe the TKC80 on the front. I'd just go with the Dunlop D606 except I can't find them in the KLR rear's 130/80x17 size.
2018 update would be ace man
Mitas should be on this list, E07, E09, amazing and well priced.
VERY ACCURATE REVIEW...THANKS
Mitas 07 FTW!
I see you like the Tractionators better than the Mitas E07, so I won't ask why you don't include them in the list. I would say that I very much liked the Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tires on my Tiger Explorer. They're 90-10 tires supposedly, but I think they beat the Anakee 3 tires. Thanks for the review!
I'm considering Mitas E07 or E09 for my next Tiger xc rear tyre. Are you saying the Tractionators would be a better alternative?
I have the tkc70. It's way better then I expected honestly. Plenty of grip on the street and in the twisies. The front has plenty of grip offroad as well. You can push the rear out quite easily on gravel while the bike is upright. As soon as you lean in it grips though. Heaps of fun. Also my bike (tenere) doesn't wobble at all. Maxed it out on the autobahn ~180kph no problem.
The only limitation is mud. The rear cakes up faster then say a tkc80
Thank you for giving us true and meaningful review. I ride a Africa Twin and you made my choice up. Going for the Shinko 805..ASAP
P.S Revzilla is good and I rate them High on reviews and suggest them to any one and every one, but your reviews is so much more entertaining, fun to watch and I actually remember things you say, said, said and say... Haha
Don't let the great spirit die!
Very informative thanks
If you own a new Africa Twin, beware - the rear 150 cross section limits your choices - no Tourances or Anakee's will fit (except Anakee Wilds) - Ive gone for Mitas E07's - so far, so good. Any chance of you reviewing these Ryan? Cheers for another great vid :)