How to Make Cool Collaged Index Cards forJunk Journals! Fun & Easy Tutorial! The Paper Outpost! :)

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  • @bobbiehawkinsjsyharricot
    @bobbiehawkinsjsyharricot Год назад +2

    Pam, Pam, PAM it’s not just you 😂❤ it’s really pretty ❤xx

  • @jacquelinefreeman6537
    @jacquelinefreeman6537 2 года назад +6

    I don’t know which I enjoy more, your inspiring creations or your gentle humor. Thank you for your generous sharing.

    • @yobyhenthorn7813
      @yobyhenthorn7813 Год назад

      Like the smudged watercolor pencil smudging

    • @fazestorm4441
      @fazestorm4441 9 месяцев назад

      What happened to your little dog

  • @Meyersci
    @Meyersci 4 года назад +6

    "Craft your way out of your mess" is my new favorite motto!

  • @princessdori
    @princessdori Год назад +1

    I had to pause so I could pull out I few supplies to craft along. I try to do some creative everyday and this is a great way to do it and use scraps as well. My favorite background material is brown pattern tissue

  • @cindyhenry1410
    @cindyhenry1410 4 года назад +17

    “Doing lines in the naked zone”.....never a dull moment at the Paper Outpost!! 😂😂😂❤️🦋💜

  • @teresabenefield731
    @teresabenefield731 2 года назад +1

    Paper, glue and makes me happy❤️

  • @stormyswann6177
    @stormyswann6177 4 года назад +1

    Listening to you is like a peak into your mind. What a fun neighborhood in your brain.

  • @judiasbell6132
    @judiasbell6132 4 года назад +65

    Love you have hands that look like you actually do crafts. Not all painted and fancy. ❤️

    • @renee7954
      @renee7954 4 года назад +11

      Judi Asbell same thing i was going to say😂 thought i was the only one with such hands, love it!😛

    • @rikkiheinis387
      @rikkiheinis387 4 года назад +3

      Yes! I was thinking this throughout the video as well.

    • @mamisoi
      @mamisoi 4 года назад +9

      I so appreciate the real life in these videos. Highly edited videos can be great too but I love just watching Pam work and listening as she thinks out loud. Seeing that real process is very inspiring to me!

    • @sandracapps5543
      @sandracapps5543 4 года назад +2

      Ohhhh... I HATE trying to get stickers loose and this is stressful to watch!😐 I have better luck raking a pair of tweezers across the edge. It seems to lift a little easier. And then I just use the tweezers to grab the lifted edge and place the sticker where I want it.

    • @EleventyThousand
      @EleventyThousand 3 года назад +1

      @@mamisoi Same here! I watch her every day because the vibes are immaculate and inspiring 🥰

  • @sabrinaandbenji1390
    @sabrinaandbenji1390 4 года назад +24

    I love the birds singing in the back. Very beautiful, one of my favorite sounds in the world

    • @wandasinclair3748
      @wandasinclair3748 2 года назад

      Where can I get little stamps like what u have. Love all your work. Can't make up my mine. I also want to buy some of your paper. Just anything.

    • @bobbiehawkinsjsyharricot
      @bobbiehawkinsjsyharricot Год назад +1

      Me too.. Pam’s is a one stop therapy shop ❤😂 x

  • @aliceplouchardstelzer9881
    @aliceplouchardstelzer9881 2 года назад +1

    Love what you are doing with index cards!

  • @chrissy24-7
    @chrissy24-7 4 года назад +3

    Guess o recipe! I get a bunch of wildlife pics from magazines and it's great to know that we can get rid of that gloss! 💕

  • @kristakefer8551
    @kristakefer8551 4 года назад +3

    Nope... it’s not just you Pam. Since finding your RUclips channel I’m looking at everyday things in a whole new light! I also did what u suggested in another video and raided my “kids room” craft stuff I have for them when my nieces come to visit. I decided to reclaim the index cards I thought I’d never use! Lol

  • @juliemarie1116
    @juliemarie1116 7 месяцев назад

    I had a stroke last year and I just remember I use to watch you video's. I miss you Pam❤

  • @lilianafortiwagner9600
    @lilianafortiwagner9600 2 года назад +1

    Que belleza!! Muéstranos el pajarito. 😃

  • @donnasmalley8907
    @donnasmalley8907 3 года назад +1

    Pam my dear i just love u plain n simple 😆 u just crack me up all the time.. " i was making up a story that wasn't even true." 😆.. Ur so down to earth and i love it. Don't ever change...

  • @DonnaHarris3578
    @DonnaHarris3578 4 года назад +4

    I love these! I’m glad I’m not the only one that saves the small pieces and I have a ton of index cards. I save the really skinny pieces for flower stems. This was a fun video. 🦋

  • @lalagamma4452
    @lalagamma4452 4 года назад +2

    Lovely Pam. My only issue is remembering the tips you gave us in the video!!! Senior moment I guess. I'll have to try to remember to come back and watch it for the stuff I wanted to write down. LOL 🤣 hugs to Holly & the Love Birds too!🍂🤗🦋🥰🐝😘🐞

  • @teresabenefield731
    @teresabenefield731 2 года назад

    Yes, I do find so much joy from cutting paper, and making beautiful things from simple things❤️

  • @karmaleenash2841
    @karmaleenash2841 4 года назад +17

    Scotch Create glue sticks have become my favorite because of you. Yesterday, in Joanns, I found three of them in the clearance section for a dollar each! Shoulda seen me rummaging in that bin searching for more with reckless abandon!! And any day with index cards is a good day! Thanks for introducing me to so many amazing projects and products you junk journal guru you! 🌸💯😍🤓🌸

  • @donnaswisher8408
    @donnaswisher8408 4 года назад

    This is my second time watching this...love the reminder of watching more than once. Have to say you shouldn't worry about talking to yourself...I do it all the time. Especially when I want an intelligent conversation or an audience that hangs on my every word 😯. And don't get me started about telling myself jokes! Lordy I just crack me up. Sometimes I keep giggling about my jokes off and on all day long. So relax with talking to yourself and just enjoy your own company. 😁😝😂

  • @cassfonnesbeck8057
    @cassfonnesbeck8057 4 года назад +3

    Its delightful to watch you create! You are so much fun and so is your crafting. I love hearing Hawley and your lovebirds. It's a lovely morning wake up call.

  • @lyndasnell3119
    @lyndasnell3119 2 года назад

    You’re so fun to watch!! Thanks for talking to Holly! He’s such a sweet bird. Thanks again Pam!!!

  • @elizabethcherris5382
    @elizabethcherris5382 4 года назад +44

    Love this - five minutes in I was running to my craft room and pulling out my box of strips (that I never know what to do with) and my index cards! Pam you are so creative! Thanks for the idea and for starting my day off with a smile 😊💜🌼

    • @kerrythomas4147
      @kerrythomas4147 4 года назад +1

      Me too, me too! It’s like “wow now I know what to do today”. 😂

    • @blessgirlshirl678
      @blessgirlshirl678 4 года назад

      I know right, totally feeling the same way 💃🏾

    • @lindapoteet2887
      @lindapoteet2887 3 года назад

      Love the cards

  • @leerowley70
    @leerowley70 4 года назад +11

    I’ve had a love affair with index cards for years! You can do so many things with them! I love these ideas so much!

  • @kelseylowe4859
    @kelseylowe4859 3 года назад

    I love you talking to the bird and all the quirky things you say in between

  • @bettyswinford5886
    @bettyswinford5886 4 года назад +2

    Watching you is so much fun. I enjoy your goofy talking so much,good for the soul.Please keep making so many happy.

    • @ThePaperOutpost
      @ThePaperOutpost  4 года назад

      Hi Betty Swinford! So happy to hear you are having fun! :) That means so much! :)

  • @treesieallen8824
    @treesieallen8824 4 года назад +1

    Don't ever apologize for your sweet bird ! I love him !
    I wish you would introduce us to him in person !

  • @eleanorsharp3967
    @eleanorsharp3967 4 года назад

    I love to hear Holly sing; makes me smile

  • @mimirudd9368
    @mimirudd9368 2 года назад

    You are not alone! I love paper & glue & stickers & scissors etc. & paper crafting. I love the smell & feel of paper. Thank you for teaching me cool stuff.

  • @staceydailey6394
    @staceydailey6394 4 года назад +5

    You are such a riot! I just love you and your style! Your messy craft mat gives me warm fuzzy feelings. And Holly in the background is a pure delight!

  • @brendawheeler9146
    @brendawheeler9146 3 года назад

    I agree with Judi. Love your reckless abandonment attitude to crafts.

  • @megperry5586
    @megperry5586 4 года назад +4

    Love your sense of humor, "takes an hour and half to get the sticker apart" so true, inspired!

  • @dianemillar3331
    @dianemillar3331 3 года назад +2

    Can’t get enough of Pam! Funny and creative, what’s not to love. Hugs from Australia❤️

  • @dalesueglass8421
    @dalesueglass8421 4 года назад +2

    I’ve been working from home since April and answer phone calls by the thousands. I can cut and glue on a relaxing project like this while I answer phones, so thanks for the inspiration.

  • @elizabethlampi7667
    @elizabethlampi7667 2 года назад

    Roper’s life of more with the canteen sticker, sounds like an interesting book. A mysterious life ensues. Reckless abandon strikes imagination again 😁

  • @doodlesconnor7505
    @doodlesconnor7505 3 месяца назад

    It's nearly midnight and I can't sleep, so I'm watching your old videos! Now I want to get up and make journaling cards! 😂😂😂

  • @bbsbacktobasics7695
    @bbsbacktobasics7695 4 года назад +2

    Love it, Pam. As far as ephemera goes, I don't think there's such a thing as enough...lol..in my world , theres never enough when we are constantly making journals. I love pockets and hide aways filled with mystery's, to me... It's not complete without them.lol💕❤️

  • @vonniegreene2971
    @vonniegreene2971 3 года назад

    You can never have TOO MUCH fun😉. Every step is fun!

  • @studio74usa
    @studio74usa 4 года назад +1

    Hey Pam, will you ever let us see what Holly looks like? I can't be the only one who would love to at least see a picture of him. I was trying to imagine what he looks like dancing. 😆😆 Love your ideas!! And him singing in the background. Proud owner of three doggies, two kitties, and a gaggle of feral farm kitties on the back porch. Animal lovers and paper lovers unite!!😉💙 Tfs all these great things with us!!!

  • @boomartin3495
    @boomartin3495 4 года назад

    It’s not just you. There is something very pretty about your index cards.

  • @niyaabhilash7278
    @niyaabhilash7278 3 года назад

    You r so creative....I can't stop saying that ''you are the real artist".....I am not able to take my eye from ur dainty creations... really appreciate your works....😍😍🥰🥰

  • @ludmilaschicchi8278
    @ludmilaschicchi8278 4 года назад +1

    It’s not just you. These cards are beautiful and are going to be very useful. Thank you for sharing your creativity.

  • @coralthepearlyconure9903
    @coralthepearlyconure9903 4 года назад +5

    8:45 it’s fine
    We love the chirping!!!! 🦜🤣🥰🦜

  • @stephv1202
    @stephv1202 4 года назад +1

    thanks for the simplicity of ideas, and your inclusion of flora and fauna😍

  • @karenbauer5650
    @karenbauer5650 4 года назад +3

    Such fun, and I really do depend on my stash to do the journals, all for me, 1 a month, day by day. I have a 6" thick old dictionary, the words! I got a free, fun 1901 Farmer's Manual, the pictures! Lots more, it's piling up! I have to apologize to visitors, it's my work space, the dining table. Small house, close to the printer, etc. I cope, thanks for all the great ideas!

    • @karencvick
      @karencvick 4 года назад +1

      Karen Bauer You sound like who I'd choose to be a friend to visit.....to walk in for a cup of coffee and see all that you're creating laid out as if I interrupted you in the middle of it. You'd never feel the need to apologize to me, I would think your home was cozy and welcoming!! ❤️

    • @karenbauer5650
      @karenbauer5650 4 года назад +1

      @@karencvick Thanks, I have such a pile now and luckily my hubby doesn't complain. We're stuck here so I am taking advantage of it and playing when I can. I listen to audio books and craft and sew.

    • @karencvick
      @karencvick 4 года назад

      Karen Bauer I lost my husband unexpectedly 5 years ago, he set up my very first crafting spot years ago. He never complained about my mess either! I love crafting, reading, and audio books while crafting! lol I can hand stitch sew but nothing elaborate. Right now I'm working on a journal of sorts, it's of all the letters and cards he ever gave me. I'm even including all the little silly notes he would leave me around the house or in my car. I'm making it fun and quirky but something that I can look through and smile and laugh and even cry. ❤️

    • @karenbauer5650
      @karenbauer5650 4 года назад +1

      @@karencvick That sounds like a nice way to remember your dear husband, so sorry. We recently lost a son to heart disease, I've been using the cards we received & many pictures to fill journal books, to honor his memory. So much better than just a photo album. I can write memories and post pictures the rest of the family probably don't remember. They like looking at the journals.

    • @karencvick
      @karencvick 4 года назад

      @@karenbauer5650 I'm so sorry about your son. And I love that you're using cards and photos in that way, what a great way to honor him!

  • @wendy5306
    @wendy5306 3 года назад

    I could listen to you all day Pam. Creating with my colleague book along with you.
    Thank you for the laugh's

  • @michelel3372
    @michelel3372 3 года назад

    What fun!! These cards look like such a great way to "clean up the craft table!" Why clean when you can just "craft your way to clean!" Thanks so much!

  • @aalemap1
    @aalemap1 3 года назад

    I just love this.....
    Yes...I also love playing with papers...less is more.
    making something from nothing....
    I say this all the time
    Thanks for such wonderfully entertaining videos...🥀🥀🥀

  • @rosemaryhaight667
    @rosemaryhaight667 Год назад

    Just wanted to let you know how entertaining you are as you make your master pieces. I was so happy I came across your tutorial. You are so fun to watch and now I can't wait to start working on some of my index cards for my journals. Thank you for sharing and giving me some laughs and smiles. ❤

  • @oeendrila
    @oeendrila 4 года назад +1

    I find you To be so articulate! I don’t know if it’s the crafts or the narrating that has me hooked!! ♥️❤️💜

  • @blue-penmisty-dawn3682
    @blue-penmisty-dawn3682 4 года назад

    Cute project ❣ Hi, Pam. No index cards, But I've got lined notebook pages, glue & scissors!❣! Yay ❣👍 Keep safe. Blessings ❣💞💖🎶

  • @Meyersci
    @Meyersci 4 года назад +1

    These are so much fun to make and they looked so amazing! I sat and made 21 of these last night in just a few hours as I watched TV. If anyone wants a portable project for your RV or hotel stay, this is a great possibility and you can fit all the materials into a gallon sized freezer bag.

    • @marlenegura1161
      @marlenegura1161 2 года назад

      Great idea💡 Thanks for sharing I'll definitely be using it for travel.

  • @suemitchell8641
    @suemitchell8641 4 года назад

    Love the birds and flowers. I love all birds except the buzzard types lol.

  • @conniewalls2491
    @conniewalls2491 4 года назад +1

    Love all the finishing touches you show us to make make the project POP.

  • @nancivessells1909
    @nancivessells1909 4 года назад +1

    FUN VIDEO. YOU MAKE CRAFTING FUN FOR SURE...

  • @MooMaMSD
    @MooMaMSD 4 года назад +1

    Gift recipes with food designs glued on the back would be cool.

  • @williewiner4161
    @williewiner4161 4 года назад +1

    Oooohhh. Myyyy. I stumbled on your channel and and ok I am staying! I am a subscriber!!! Yahooo

    • @donnaswisher8408
      @donnaswisher8408 4 года назад

      I think you will have a lot of fun here. Pam is a hoot and very talented. And good at teaching us. So welcome. 😁

  • @CraftyYarnOwlwithDarla
    @CraftyYarnOwlwithDarla 11 месяцев назад

    I just found a ton of index cards in my desk drawer. There are white ones, green ones & yellow ones. I have no idea where they came from 😆. If it wasn't for you, Pam, I would never had known they were there. Now for some crafting! Thank you!

  • @hodgepodgecottage2674
    @hodgepodgecottage2674 4 года назад +7

    Pam, these are So Pretty and So many uses! I Love your styles and designs!
    I am in my studio late evenings, rarely ever throughout the day, but a project like this I can grab a few supplies and create in moments of time throughout the day! Simple and Fun! Thank you Pam!

    • @kerrythomas4147
      @kerrythomas4147 4 года назад +2

      So did you do a “create with reckless abandoned? Good on you 💜😂

  • @amandashannon9347
    @amandashannon9347 4 года назад +2

    Your collages are so pretty and index cards are great alternatives for journaling cards ❤️

  • @judydorman2833
    @judydorman2833 4 года назад

    Love. Love to watch your videos, not so much to learn but to listen to you and Holly. 🐦🦜🕊🦩

  • @marthathacker437
    @marthathacker437 3 года назад

    I ❤️ hearing Holly in the background ❤️

  • @Evawebdiva
    @Evawebdiva 4 года назад +2

    I've been on a weaving kick. Weaving paper strips to cover my Smile Books. :)

    • @donnaswisher8408
      @donnaswisher8408 4 года назад

      I keep telling myself that I'm going to try that...thanks for the reminder. 😁

  • @nelsonshakespeare2881
    @nelsonshakespeare2881 4 года назад

    love this idea so basiclly fun so thanks! Good hearing Holly and i bet your mushroom is only a guy, who stayed in the dark so long he transform into a "fun guy"...😂😂😂🙏✌ I could not resist! Have a good week.

  • @Feraldesertartist
    @Feraldesertartist 4 года назад +3

    I love what you said "Craft out of your mess" brilliant. Thank you for this video.

  • @lisagray5367
    @lisagray5367 4 года назад +4

    Love doing a walk thru my paper room just to find the basics. Paper....glue....stickers....oh my!!! I'm with you.... let's start a paper and glue revolution🤣

  • @Sheila6006
    @Sheila6006 4 года назад

    I just love your shows I watch everyone of them and some of them to her three times

  • @sharonfowler9971
    @sharonfowler9971 4 года назад

    They are magical cause you end up with a ally interesting item and sometimes you cant repeat it cause it is special gift from your talent and objects.

  • @JoansJunkJournalsAndMore
    @JoansJunkJournalsAndMore Год назад

    What another fun craft with you. I did 4 of these along with you. I love index cards decorated up in any way. Thank you ☺♥

  • @kimberlywalker1015
    @kimberlywalker1015 3 года назад

    I LOVE these!
    Just purchased 5 books of wallpaper for $20...so enamored with your little postcards...TOO COOL!😀

  • @cindyn3383
    @cindyn3383 4 года назад

    I love the index card with the bird and the raccoon,

  • @AurorasArtWorld
    @AurorasArtWorld 4 года назад +2

    What a great way to use up scraps!! 💖 Great idea, Pam!

  • @10151957june
    @10151957june 2 года назад

    Craft on and be giddy. lol 😆 I'm sure we all get it Pam. At least I do!!! 💖💖

  • @19queenbee55
    @19queenbee55 3 года назад +1

    Just found you and subscribed! Looking forward to binge watch and create!

  • @racheljolley26352
    @racheljolley26352 2 года назад

    Oh thank you, wonderful ideas here! Love the items you have created! 👌👍🤩♥️🏆

  • @christianeriverin3595
    @christianeriverin3595 4 года назад +1

    Love the cards, every single craft you make turns out so beautiful, and your comments are hilarious, I laugh, laugh and laugh! About 15 years ago, I was super excited to find a paint shop where they were giving away about 25 outdated wallpaper books, wheeee....! I had found heaven... I had been looking for those for a long time. I took about a dozen, the ones I loved the most, flowers, landscapes/nature, women/men/kids subjects/activities, different countries/cities of the world, maps, travel, messages sand writings, even fabric/laces, different colors of geometric patterns, beautiful borders matching the wallpaper page.... you name it... Once back home, I pulled all the books and pages apart, took me a few days (was not back from heaven yet... lol). To this day, I still have tons and tons of pages. I was working as an activity director in care homes then, making all kinds of crafts with my little ladies (and for myself at home), using the beautiful wallpaper pages, etc... I had been itching to start a Journal for awhile, I finally started it a couple of months ago, I just finished last week-end. I'm in love with it. :)

  • @janicemiller3144
    @janicemiller3144 2 года назад

    fish laughter....omg pam u never fail to crack me up

  • @barbeickhoff9440
    @barbeickhoff9440 4 года назад

    You are not alone.... from another paper and collage gal!Thanks

  • @yobyhenthorn7813
    @yobyhenthorn7813 Год назад

    Love the strip idea of collage. I’ve been very I’ll so this seems a great way to get back into paper crafts.

  • @angelaharrison4965
    @angelaharrison4965 4 года назад

    I am going to get a package of index cards and use whatever I can find around the house to glue on a card! You have inspired me!

  • @dianeboynton3069
    @dianeboynton3069 4 года назад

    So true about the missy hands To me that's why is fun

  • @jeanbeck3962
    @jeanbeck3962 4 года назад

    Peely uppies love it. You are not only a great crafter but entertaining as well. Never get tired of watching your channel.

  • @peggyjohnston3063
    @peggyjohnston3063 3 года назад

    Such a pleasure being with you....you're goofy and very talented, what a lovely combo, huh ? Hugs from Idaho to you and all your critters

  • @georginaowen9218
    @georginaowen9218 4 года назад

    Love your work ❤️you crack me up listening to you speak 🤣 thanks for sharing ❤️🇦🇺👍

  • @trudibronson3497
    @trudibronson3497 4 года назад +1

    Lol...u are giddy! Gotta Love it!

  • @marybufordAUTHOR
    @marybufordAUTHOR 4 года назад +1

    I love your videos. You are so real and engaging. Thank you! :)

  • @mollymurphy5387
    @mollymurphy5387 4 года назад +7

    It’s not just you, Pam. I love, love these. I was thinking when it dries you could even cut out shapes or make them smaller if you need smaller ones. Great idea. BTW I’ve made a bunch of those little envelopes. They are such fun. I have some 12x12 so I get 4 out of each! So much fun crafting with so much abandonment! One idea brings on another. 😁🦋

  • @juliematheny9875
    @juliematheny9875 3 года назад

    You make me laugh!!! I love it!! Great job! Always fun watching you create!! 💖

  • @oneeyewitch
    @oneeyewitch 4 года назад

    Just starting journalling i dont have many supplies but watching your videos is helping me see i dont need to spend hundreds. I happened to have a bunch of the index cards sitting around so using them now

  • @carlawolf8260
    @carlawolf8260 3 года назад

    I have some green and hot pink note cards this would be a great way to use them up. Thank you . Happy crafting..❤❤❤

  • @dianawible8760
    @dianawible8760 4 года назад

    Collage is one of the crafts I love to do the most. Back in the 1970's, it was popular for my college roommate and me to collage on bottles, plates, paper and cardboard. We glued pictures of the girls on our dorm floor and us. These turned out as decor for our rooms. That was so long ago when we took pictures with a camera and we would get paper pictures back from the pharmacy/film development center. Old memories coming back to me with these projects using paper! Fun stuff!!

  • @soniaclarkson3766
    @soniaclarkson3766 Год назад

    Pam you crack me up❤️ AND you inspire me, Thank you for sharing. I am a newbie and don’t have all the fancy Tim Holtz stuff everyone seems to have but love to get creative

  • @darlatoman8654
    @darlatoman8654 4 года назад

    You are so funny. You make me laugh every video you make. Thanks for what you do.

  • @trishmillard9857
    @trishmillard9857 4 года назад

    Ur an addict and so am I! As with every video u do wonderful wonderful. Thank you for sharing.

  • @MagickuexRooted
    @MagickuexRooted 4 года назад +3

    Just wanted to stop by and say that I appreciate finding your channel, I'm 27 weeks pregnant and finally able to channel my energy to art again! I've been painting as much as I can and recently started a junk journal, even though I dont have much, you've helped me figure it all out. Itll be a fun keep sake for my daughters 💜

  • @annryan8235
    @annryan8235 6 месяцев назад

    I just love how you make it easy.

  • @anitapearson2977
    @anitapearson2977 4 года назад

    Hi Pam! I'm watching again. Thank you!

  • @angelaharrison4965
    @angelaharrison4965 4 года назад +1

    I just bought index cards the other day! I was so wanting to craft with you! My stuff is out back in the "shack!" I'll make a point to go out there tomorrow as the sun shines! Thank you for another enjoyable video!

  • @missygilly9917
    @missygilly9917 4 года назад

    Oh Pam, what a wonderful gal you are! Love watching you craft, or listen to you while I’m crafting & having fun! xoxo

  • @cynthiaakacyndsmith6539
    @cynthiaakacyndsmith6539 4 года назад

    Tons O fun. I like these lots! You bet the les you have the more creative one becomes, I like the idea of using only what is on your desk top. I could make a huge mess!