First Test of the 2" Agri Papa Pump

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024

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  • @terrafirma9328
    @terrafirma9328 Год назад +7

    WHERE IS THE UPDATE VIDEO? Should be in the description notes by now?

  • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
    @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад +15

    Hi Seth,
    Great initial video, for supply heads under 2 meters we have a thinner main valve that will allow the pump to work so do let us know if you'd like once sent out!
    The pipe splitting does illustrate that need for a solid pipe ;)
    looking forward to more of your videos!

    • @moorechez67
      @moorechez67 2 года назад +1

      I would! My property backs up to st Joseph river I want to ram pump using the river pressure up to near my house to a holding tank then a smaller line to go down to a micro hydro power generator

    • @non1503
      @non1503 Год назад

      @@moorechez67 Wow these pieces of plastic are expensive. I have year round flowing spring on my property. So I was thinking about making The Breurram pump or my own version of the bunyip. Now I'm kinda leaning towards buying a Vodní trkač a from Czechoslovakia for a few hundred. depending on shipping cost.They are cast iron pump kinda like old school farm pumps you use to see. Then shipping here or close to hear, a FTZ(Foreign-Trade Zones) since they are everywhere in the US if you google locations (they can be close to amazon warehouses). Or get a 3d printer for 200-300$ And see what I can do with that.
      Edit: You might like The $50 Water Turbine -Build Tutorial.

  • @jllaine
    @jllaine 2 года назад +5

    This is too cool, thank you for sharing and I'm looking forward to the install video in the spring.
    Those water intake filters appear to be ingenious for keeping organic debris and gravel out of the supply line, though you definitely need some sort of settlement tank to reduce silt.

  • @JohnDoe-id9hi
    @JohnDoe-id9hi 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for making this video! I'm currently setting up my new papa pump and I have similar situation. It's nice to see how well it works even without completely following the directions. Lol. I using a barrel as my catchment tank and feed tank using both filters inline. I have 25gpm and 40ft of head so I'm hopeful that I can water my garden soon without hauling water.

  • @brepjofdudesert3852
    @brepjofdudesert3852 2 года назад +4

    "Ok Darling, i know want for Christmas!"

  • @petercoutu4726
    @petercoutu4726 2 года назад +4

    Try putting a vertical stand pipe a pipe length away from the pump and two feet taller than the water source. Leave the top of the stand pipe vented and it should allow any air bubbles easily escape, and reduce the amount of water hammer by giving it a place to go closer to the pump without reducing the head pressure.

    • @johncochran8497
      @johncochran8497 Год назад +1

      You WANT the water hammer effect. It's what makes the RAM pump work in the first place. The water that the waste valve lets past is so the water in the drive pipe can get sufficient momentum to cause a nice water hammer effect when the valve closes. The resulting pressure spike will then force water past the check valve to actually pump some water. That's why for maximum efficiency, you want several things.
      1. Have the pump rigidly mounted.
      2. Have the drive pipe as straight and rigid as possible (a steel, or copper pipe would be better than PVC).
      In a nutshell, you don't want any movement or flex that will dissipate energy that would otherwise go towards pumping water.

    • @mikemorgan5015
      @mikemorgan5015 Год назад

      @@johncochran8497 Exactly.

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel 2 года назад +1

    that looks like a serious pump

  • @Bozemanjustin
    @Bozemanjustin 2 года назад +3

    Dude I love it! You took all the air out of the sales of that company!
    They claim that it's a self-priming self-starting version of a ram pump, but you got it to not work the first dozen times you tried it LOL.
    They also claim that the benefit of a Papa pump over a ram pump is it doesn't need expensive valves replaced.. so your ram pumps cost $180 and this ram pump costs $1,800.
    But I'm glad you don't have to replace any valves on a pop-up pump because that could get expensive you would only have to build 10 of your round pumps to equal the exact cost LOL you could literally have ram pumps for you and all your neighbors for the price of one Papa pump

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад +6

      Hi Justin,
      Non of our claims are false and Seth's fantastic video just shows the importance correct and planned set up. Even in Seth's temporary solution the pump was not primes and did start itself.
      This model is also only $995 USD and is designed to be a long term solution for those that don't want to build their own or want something larger than Seth's own excellent models.

  • @dalevnuk7154
    @dalevnuk7154 2 года назад +1

    Hello Seth From Wyld Creek Water Gardens

  • @klpajuh
    @klpajuh 2 года назад +3

    Is it available in India

  • @robertbyers4260
    @robertbyers4260 2 года назад +2

    Please don't assume that my comments concerning your installation are meant to be negative or anything except of the most helpful kind. I will soon be 79 years of age and have been involved in much too many such projects that have built within my library in my head knowledge and experience that provides some of the pitfalls that I observe that can make the projects seem difficult at the very least. Some of the pitfalls that can be avoided are. Getting in too big a hurry and failure to follow instructions, both those written and those of just common sense. One such pitfalls is not taking enough time to plan the installation and how the piping is to be secured. One such installation, I recall that caused a huge amount of time and cost an arm and leg, was the installation of a sewer line of about 200 ft. The "job" was not a job except to provide some assistance and to dig the excavation. I instructional the owner that the line required gravel and backfill before being left for the night. Only the joints were to be left visible. However, it did rain during the night as was forecast. In the morning, all pipe was in a pile at the end of the line. This was a very expensive Booboo. Unfortunately this is setting that could have been avoided. It gave me no pleasure for his difficulty
    Please forgive the sloppy texting, I'm not the best keyboarder in the west. Also, please accept these comments in the attitude with which they are offered. I am a farm kind of person and enjoyed the "off grid" use of the power that God gave us to use!

  • @bukidpinoy3563
    @bukidpinoy3563 2 года назад +1

    Nice one dude!

  • @450rhino1
    @450rhino1 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting indeed. Can't wait.:)

  • @ggesdsdsdsd
    @ggesdsdsdsd 2 года назад +2

    you gotta test the 'Venturo' ram pump next lol the worlds largest ram pump, apparently.

  • @diydarkmatter
    @diydarkmatter 2 года назад +4

    crazy ram pump . looks like if you had more drive and a better way of holding that beast down it would really move some water . might be a good pump to try off the dam . besides we all like seeing the dam and the water generator . hint hint . lol . hoe all is well with you brother and are getting easier for ou as well . many blessings your way .

  • @stephenahearn2919
    @stephenahearn2919 2 года назад +4

    Are the plumbing interfaces on this pump BSP or NPT threads? If the threads need to be converted this can be a significant cost - especially for the 2 inch side.

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад +1

      All US kits come with BSP to NPT adaptors

    • @sparks8687
      @sparks8687 Год назад

      @@Waterpoweredtechnologiesyou never need to buy fittings except for your first one make sure it’s brass heat up the PVC pipe with a heat gun or air blower dryer and screw the brass fitting onto the pipe. Make sure the threads are lubricated on the brass. cool a little bit unscrew the brass Wala you have new threads of whatever kind you want.

  • @chrislnflorida5192
    @chrislnflorida5192 2 года назад +1

    DAMN, for 5-7' drop of head pressure, that looks like alot of water.

  • @iamgriff
    @iamgriff 2 года назад +1

    I’m 16 seconds into the video. Seth you are very excited to present the Papa Pump. I know this will be a good video! lol

  • @StoneyRidgeFarmer
    @StoneyRidgeFarmer 2 года назад +2

    PAPA!!! Love it dude!

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +2

      These pumps are costly but seem to work really well. Lots more testing to come.

  • @niallwildwoode7373
    @niallwildwoode7373 2 года назад +6

    Just seen the price....$1,800! $2,300+ to ship to my farm in the UK. That's rediculously overpriced, so I'll stick to building my own.

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад

      Hello Niall,
      We are based in the UK so you can order directly from us! Until the 12th we also have a 26% Discount on for Cop26

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад

      Current updated pricing is:
      Papa Pump (potable use) £1,350
      Agri Papa Pump* featured above (non potable use) £995

  • @AHMEDGAIUSROME
    @AHMEDGAIUSROME 2 года назад +1

    Very cool !

  • @alberteinstein9176
    @alberteinstein9176 2 года назад +3

    Is there a diaphragm in the pressure tank? If so, it needs to be pressurized.

    • @wayneleis6878
      @wayneleis6878 2 года назад +2

      Yes there is a diaphragm and the pressure needs to be set properly in the pressure vessel. I have one of these pumps.

  • @isaacbell5646
    @isaacbell5646 2 года назад +2

    Any updates?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +1

      We just had 12" of snow. Lots more videos on this pump in the spring.

    • @isaacbell5646
      @isaacbell5646 2 года назад

      Awesome can't wait to see it! Thank you

  • @MrPeterHaller
    @MrPeterHaller 2 месяца назад

    I enjoyed your video thank you. question I have a pond it is 10 ft away from my orchard trees on level ground. I want to take the water from the pond to the orchard ,the ground is level if I were to dig a hole deep enough to put the ram pump below the pond level would it be able to pump so that I could use a hose to water my orchard?

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 месяца назад +1

      Sadly digging a hole and placing the ram pump in that hole does not have the same effect as head pressure. The hole will fill up with water quickly and the pump will stop.

  • @Emulation_Inflation
    @Emulation_Inflation 2 года назад +1

    Dang I want one!!

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +1

      I can tell it will move a lot of water!

  • @vtv1246
    @vtv1246 2 года назад

    I love this video, and then, i love my ram pump,,,:)😁

  • @anthonymellor174
    @anthonymellor174 2 года назад +11

    I think you make sure that things are incomplete as a way of click bait Have a habit of forgetting something or stay tuned. So frustrating now ... think you pretend to be naive

  • @jaydelacruz9023
    @jaydelacruz9023 2 года назад

    been watching your videos, more power😉

  • @careyjohnson1784
    @careyjohnson1784 2 года назад +1

    I love it

  • @domenicozagari2443
    @domenicozagari2443 2 года назад +1

    You can use screw to hold pipes together temporarily.

  • @slimpickens0000
    @slimpickens0000 6 месяцев назад

    so your intake source always has to be higher than the pump itself?

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 2 года назад +3

    Interesting. How does it function differently from your pump?

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад +2

      Our Pumps use an inline Venturi valve to operate instead of the traditional method :)

    • @jllaine
      @jllaine 2 года назад +3

      Seth's pumps rely on gravity to get the waste valve to fall back open after each hit, these use a rubber waste valve that bends/flexes to close and 'relaxes' back open after each hit. Some clever engineering in shaping the water flow past the waste valve makes it a lot more efficient.

  • @dcarter1279
    @dcarter1279 4 месяца назад

    My sifhon pulls water down to a 50 gallon barell and i put my pump in it lol

  • @kipdennis3796
    @kipdennis3796 2 года назад +2

    Looks good,do they ship it worldwide?

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад

      Yes! :)

    • @cavelvlan25
      @cavelvlan25 Год назад +1

      @@Waterpoweredtechnologies You guys are on point. At least on the promotional end hopefully the customer support and shipping procedures are the same. I'll keep you in mind when my pond systems fill next spring.

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies Год назад

      @@cavelvlan25 Thanks! We're a very small company and we all cover a bit of everything so hopefully we'll live up to your expectations 😁

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 2 года назад +1

    hi. as i have been saying, flow rate equals water volume (per sec.)
    no matter how much pressure you can achieve, the Amount of water that CAN be pumped is Equal to 1/10 of the source flow/volume. that ratio can be applied to the known/estimated source flow rate; in order to calculate the Maximum amount of water that CAN be pumped/raised. my comments have been based on an apparently very low inflow rate; into the intake catchment. i suspect that the source is a spring. d

    • @johncochran8497
      @johncochran8497 Год назад +2

      Nope. Nope. Nope. The water you can pump has a potential energy approximately 60% to 80% of the potential energy of the water supplied (e.g. A typical ram pump has an efficiency of between 60 to 80 percent). How much potential energy does the water have you might ask. That's based upon the amount of water, force of gravity, and available head. So E = HMG where H = height, M = Mass, and G = gravitational acceleration. So
      Mpumped * Hpumped * G = 0.6 * Msource * Hsource * G
      Since G is the same on both sides, we can eliminate it, getting
      Mpumped * Hpumped = 0.6 * Msource * Hsource.
      So assuming a 3 foot head and you want to pump to 15 feet, we get
      Mpumped * 15 = 0.6 * Msource * 3
      Divide both sides by 15 and we get
      Mpumped = 0.6 * Msource * 3/15 = 0.12 * Msource
      For the above example, we do get something around 1/10th, but that's because we're going close to the limit of the pump. If the source head is increased, but the desired destination remains the same, then a higher percentage of the water would be pumped.
      I'm assuming an efficiency of close to 60% because the pumps the gentleman in the video produces have a lot of flexibility in the drive pump and the mounting isn't exactly the most rigid, so the efficiency would be rather low.

  • @tomasaguilar808
    @tomasaguilar808 Год назад

    Saludos saludos ..

  • @empoweringmind8203
    @empoweringmind8203 Год назад

    Hi,
    I find your videos very informative. I am confused on how are ram pumps named. Like when we say a 3/4 inch ram does it literally mean the size of the pipe forming the ram or does it mean its drive pipe size? Many thanks.

  • @hamidmassali9789
    @hamidmassali9789 2 года назад +1

    What is the max head pressure for Papa Pump?

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад +1

      For the composite pumps we say 120m however anything over 100m we recommend our metal version - stainless steel and bronze body - these can reach 150m and upwards with some system adjustment

  • @MavejaKandingua-ul4vu
    @MavejaKandingua-ul4vu Год назад

    If I'm interested and I'm in Namibia, how do I get this pump and at price as well?

  • @nguyenthekhang9734
    @nguyenthekhang9734 Год назад

    Can you help me the link to buy sarah disc filter

  • @Bino-zm9bl
    @Bino-zm9bl Год назад

    Does the inlet have to be higher than the pump or can it be even with it if the flow/velocity of thr stream is high?

  • @ericmcknight3757
    @ericmcknight3757 2 года назад

    Seems nice for watering a large herd on a mountain top lol

  • @46962
    @46962 2 года назад

    Can you piping off of the wast valve with a head? On either of the pumps?

  • @gumbystown
    @gumbystown 2 года назад +2

    Next video try to do a proper install

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +2

      Yes thats the plan. A proper install will need much more time and effort. I do plan on installing the papa pump so that I can compare it to the normal ram pump.

  • @levinkaukereit
    @levinkaukereit 2 года назад +1

    I guess superior engineering does not equal idiot proof.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад

      Your comments are rude. An actual install will be on the channel soon.

    • @levinkaukereit
      @levinkaukereit 2 года назад

      @@LandtoHouse I don't mean to be rude. It's just your video seemed to be setting the Papa Pump up for failure.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +1

      Ah. The pump is going to work well once I do a proper install. The nights were dropping well below freezing when I made this video and I did not want to have anything freeze. Now its time for a full install.

  • @nguyendinhvanvn
    @nguyendinhvanvn 2 года назад

    I live in Vietnam, May you help me?

  • @bullithedjames937
    @bullithedjames937 2 года назад

    Neat

  • @luzenetesilva
    @luzenetesilva Год назад

    Parabéns

  • @joseinfante5054
    @joseinfante5054 Год назад +1

    Good Daym Seth, This Papa pump also works 4" under water, like your Ram pump ?? Thanks

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies Год назад

      As long as the intake is higher up it will work, but at reduced efficiency so we wouldn't recommend it.

  • @victormotter1
    @victormotter1 2 года назад

    Like number 300 !

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching. I will film a much better install in the spring when ram pump season starts back up here.

  • @jpreziose
    @jpreziose 2 года назад

    Damit I had that idea for years and just haven't built it

  • @chandrashekharrokde7713
    @chandrashekharrokde7713 2 года назад

    What's the price and Delivery to Nagpur India please !!

  • @jeremievigliaturo1317
    @jeremievigliaturo1317 2 года назад

    I have to ask. could you not get the head pressure you need by setting a 55gal tank next to the pump and start a syphon drain fill from the tank into the ram. I believe a 50galweighs 416lbs that could out fall from the bottom via 3inch into ram. idk I kinda wanna try it

  • @ThomasLeonard454
    @ThomasLeonard454 Год назад

    Your visuals are weak at best.
    No pressure gauge and how much equipment do you have that have tires with air in them?

  • @johngodwin7902
    @johngodwin7902 2 года назад

    Heck yea. Now pull that pressure tank off it and jack up the pressure on it with the blaster tank and experiment with your pump

  • @latingchampion4617
    @latingchampion4617 2 года назад

    How much is the cost

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 2 года назад

    at 7:40, doing that will NOT increase the flow rate.

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад

      Hi David,
      He's not looking to increase the flow rate, just the supply head. The flow rate is determined by the water source.

    • @daviddavids2884
      @daviddavids2884 2 года назад

      @@Waterpoweredtechnologies see my other response

  • @EdwardVanNatta
    @EdwardVanNatta 2 года назад

    I am looking for about your product place lace me a message.When I post this, I am looking for more no this .
    How build put all together much water it will put out. Can find how build one

  • @smacospasovski5123
    @smacospasovski5123 2 года назад

    Watched all you videos ,I need to run water 100 m at hight 2m what size ram pump do I need and what size hoses do I need for intake and output, please help, thanks 🙏🙏 in advance, I'm in Europe, Balkan poor country

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +1

      Hello. Each size pump can move water 100m and lift 2m. The pump size difference determines the amount of water needed to operate the pump and the amount of water you can expect at the top.

    • @smacospasovski5123
      @smacospasovski5123 2 года назад

      @@LandtoHouse I have a bigger stream so It won't be problem 3/4 or a 1 col I guess

    • @smacospasovski5123
      @smacospasovski5123 2 года назад

      @@LandtoHouse thanks a lot for answering

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад

      The 3/4" needs 4gpm and the 1" needs 6gpm to operate.

    • @smacospasovski5123
      @smacospasovski5123 2 года назад

      @@LandtoHouse bravo for the channel and for saving the planet with all these projects that save electricity ,ty

  • @fatehy.g1944
    @fatehy.g1944 2 года назад

    خير الكلام ما قل ودل

  • @troymurphy6471
    @troymurphy6471 2 года назад

    Omg how many videos are you going to make rigging things up

  • @hidram.arjusipetualang5315
    @hidram.arjusipetualang5315 2 года назад

    Mantab 🙏🙏🙏👍,,,

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 2 года назад

    so, at 5:10, i'm thinking, a ram pump can normally move one-tenth of the supply volume.
    what is the Nominal INFLOW rate, at the upstream side of the intake catchment.
    that's yer FLOW rate. DIVIDE by Ten.

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад

      Hi David,
      Depending on Supply head and delivery head our pumps are capable of pumping up to 30% of the water input

    • @jllaine
      @jllaine 2 года назад

      Seth's other tests of his ram pumps measured a 1/7th of the water through the drive pipe goes to the delivery, 6/7ths out the waste valve.

  • @levinkaukereit
    @levinkaukereit 2 года назад

    When are you going to do a video where you don't hack the install?

  • @julioalvarez6683
    @julioalvarez6683 2 года назад

    Just make that work and make new video

  • @clarencecarter960
    @clarencecarter960 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bad video!

  • @vlad3k
    @vlad3k 4 месяца назад

    This guy is so frustrating with his half ass job

  • @daviddavids2884
    @daviddavids2884 2 года назад

    at 10:20, that is all STORED water coming out. this (larger) pump is gonna need more water, than you have.!

    • @Waterpoweredtechnologies
      @Waterpoweredtechnologies 2 года назад

      HI David
      Seth actually has a good flow rate and our pumps can operate on flows from 20l/m with the standard valve.

    • @daviddavids2884
      @daviddavids2884 2 года назад

      ​@@Waterpoweredtechnologies ha-ha. 20l/m is .33 liters per second. based on what is shown, the inflow rate, into the catchment, is about .25 lps. amount of water, Pump-able, .025 lps. maximum.
      conclusion: a LOT of pump is being used where a minute amount of water is Available.
      i would be interested in links to sources of useful ram pump design information. d

  • @cameroncam12
    @cameroncam12 5 месяцев назад

    So in other words it’s sh!t

  • @ddhgerlb
    @ddhgerlb 2 года назад +3

    Why not do the trail test on your own and make a video after you have understood how it works? You are wasting peoples time and makes an unprofessional impression on the viewers. Just saying.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +3

      My channel has always been based on real life testing. Not polished "TV" style content. A full install will come out when the weather is warmer.

    • @pleasantplacesfarm
      @pleasantplacesfarm 2 года назад +1

      Seth's videos are great because they show the reality of setting up these pumps. If you want to understand they 'how' and 'why', then stick with Seth's videos. When I bought our ram pump I played around with it just like Seth. It's a good thing I did too because I learned a lot and avoided a permanent installation that I would have had to redo later.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +1

      Exactly. I could test install before filming but it would not be as entertaining to always show perfect installations.

    • @agent__k
      @agent__k 2 года назад +1

      @@LandtoHouse I think It would be more interesting if you would be more familiar what you want to introduce for us. There are no working, planned concepts in the last few videos. As Da Honey says I got an unprofessional impression about your work in these days, however everybody knows that is not true. It is enough to think for your earlier work with a working ram pump for the constantly upgraded generator or the solar panel installation or inverter/battery systems. Obviously english is not my mother tongue, but I hope I could explain my toughts as I wanted to do.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад +4

      I definitely understand. I only work one day a week on RUclips filming 3 videos in a day. I pay someone to watch my kids so I can work. This current season of life as a single stay-at-home dad reading over 200 pages of documents for divorce court... I'm just trying to get some video content out. Hopefully soon when my life settles down into a routine I can focus on doing a better job at video creation

  • @selectedsolutions
    @selectedsolutions 2 года назад

    Flow rate is not enough

  • @lonyukfulo8601
    @lonyukfulo8601 2 года назад

    Not successful

  • @GoodGirl-wi5yo
    @GoodGirl-wi5yo 2 года назад

    it's proper name is "Ramp pump" you can build a better one your self with cheap stuff.

    • @LandtoHouse
      @LandtoHouse  2 года назад

      I have over 130 videos on the Hydraulic Ram Pump on the channel. In the spring I will be running some more tests on the papa pump.

  • @Miio.
    @Miio. 2 года назад

    FIRST!!