+1 for the Tempus. My first pair went 750 miles, currently up to just under 400 in my second pair. No arch issues here. Really pleased the V2 is an upper only update, as it means I'll be able to pick up my third and fourth pairs of Tempus V1 for a great price later next year.
For me I use the Saucony Tempus as a race day/faster workout shoe. By far the fastest and most enjoyable stability shoe I’ve had. But still I always have a trusty pair of Brooks Adrenalines to fall back on. They are the best shoe to lace up and go out for a plod around the block. Perfect for those days where you can forget about the shoe and just enjoy the run.
I also love The Saucony Tempus, but I have to say that I’m impressed with the grip on the Puma Forever Runs that I’ve got. I’m using the Pumas as Winter running shoes, because the grip gives me confidence on wet leaves and the like. I’m really looking forward to the Saucony Tempus 2 though, can’t wait for it to come out.
The Puma Forever Run is a fantastic shoe. Super smooth and supportive, a real joy to run in. Plus, you can find it for mucho dinero cheaper than the Asics and NB shoes mentioned here. Factor in the longevity of the sole and it really is a great support shoe and excellent value.
I recently bought the GT2000 12 and am really enjoying it so far! Feels so much smoother than the clunky Glycerin GTS. Do you think the GT2000 is cushioned enough for marathon miles? Early indications seem good.
I’ve got the Guide 15 and it’s great for shorter easy runs, particularly when you’re recovering from a longer run. And very cheap - there are some good deals on the 16, too. For anything over half marathon distance it’s quite firm, though. I’ve also got the Tempus which has seen me through two marathons this year and which I love. Comfortable, enough guidance, and I don’t find issues with the arch thankfully. But it never really comes down in price despite being nearly two years old now!
Im still on the tempus, but I’ve also ended up using more stable neutral shoes like the Boston 12 and I’ve been fine. The lines between stability and neutral are blurring in places
I’ve got the Forever Run Nitro, 2 x Guide 15s and the Tempus. I honestly think the Tempus is the best stability shoe ever, I’ve smashed my PBs in it this year (I’ve also trained better so maybe it’s that 😂). The outsole isn’t that durable but I don’t think the Puma is either really. The 2000-12 is probably my next purchase though, they look great.
Same! I love the Tempus and went to check out other shoes. I really liked the GT 2000-12 and the Vongo6s. Did you end up getting the GT2000-12s? How’d you like them? I also like the Altra Paradigms very much
So many great shoes with high to minor stability around ... the three models I liked the most and I got them in 2023 : Asics GT 2000 12 , Nike Structure 25 and the Adidas SolarBoost 5 . Honorary mention to the Adidas SolarGlide line that is always a great fantastic stability shoes with a very good guidance system.
For pure comfort it would be my Altra Paradigms, but the outsole just didn’t last long enough to justify getting another pair. But for my faster efforts, nothing performs like my Saucony Tempus. If I could only have one shoe for all types of training and races, it would be the Tempus. It really can do it all.
@@scottashdown3686 the gt2k is definitely lighter, peppier and cushy for longer run. But back then, the 860v13 cost $40. So i went with the cheaper. Nb860v13 was my only shoes back then.. does everything with it, daily to half races. now it serves as daily and longer run or any run where i just need to be in auto cruise mode and just enjoy everything. It gives the secure and stable feelings when my body kinda sore, tired but still wanna go run/jog/power walk for meditational purpose. Gt2k still better for faster pace and races. However, Just go with whatever fits your feet anatomy and budgets. Never had blisters or anything with both. 860v13 is definitely more stable and secure than gt2k, also heavier. But probably gonna be hella cheaper now that v14 is already released.
Hi Fordy. Thanks for your great content. I got the Tempus v1 from your recommendation and its been great 😁. Needs to replace soon so what would you recommend - GT 2000 v12, Vongo v6, Puma Forever Run or wait for the Tempus v2? Thanks so much 👍🏾
I love the Saucony Tempus because it’s so lightweight. Right now I’m running in the Keyano and the Vongo. The Vongo doesn’t feel as heavy as it is when you run in it. I have to be very careful selecting my stability shoes as my right foot is completely normal and average and doesn’t need stability. My left foot has a low arch, not flat foot but lower than average. As a result I experience Metatarsalgia at toes 2and 3 and the sensation in the ball of my left foot like it’s hitting the pavement barefoot. When I run in a stability shoe all those symptoms disappear but if the medial post is too hard my right arch is uncomfortable. At the running shoe store they recommend buying neutral shoes and a custom made insert for $150 😮 They said I don’t need stability because my ankles don’t roll in and are aligned so neutral. But the symptoms on my left foot are undoubtedly the arch collapsing flat. I think all that means I need a stability shoe that is not too extreme for my neutral right foot. Difficult!
Feel like i definitely need a stability or maybe just a guidance shoe, but can't seem to want to get away from the more fun neutral shoes. Current rotation is Nike Invincible Run 1, hoka Mach 5 and Saucony Endorphin Pro 3.
@@FordyRuns funny enough I actually tried those on your recommendation and for some reason they were kind of stiff in the midsole and upper. Maybe I didn't give them enough time but needed to return them in time to get my money back lol
Put them in a bag and throw them out the window. Then go and buy the Tempus. Only joking, the Tempus for me though. With the arch issue, I think I know the issue. I have the Tempus in a 10. I am a size 9.5, but I need the extra room, for my flat foot collapse increase in length. The arch fits perfectly. I recently bought a 10.5 to train in for an ultra. The extra 1/2 for foot 🦶 swell over long distances. The extra 1/2 made a difference and I could feel the uncomfortable arch under foot. I think the last one my 10.5 is similar to the larger sizes, with the arch support further forward.
For me personally, nothing beats the saucony guide 15 and 16. They are the best all around stability shoe I absolutely love them and have just bought a new pair of both. Got the guide 15 for £55 and guide 16 for £77. Not beating the shoe at those prices.
The best stability shoe I had was the NB Prism 1. I used it for both training and races. It kinda died at 400km. Did NB discontinue the Prism line because there were only 2 versions of it.
I am currently running the Asics GT2000-10 to prepare for my first marathon in the spring and I realy like how it hanldes. Which stability shoe would you recommend when it comes to the race? I am aiming for a sub 4 hour time.
Tempus 2 is an upper only update (they were discussed in some of the The Running Event videos), so I'm looking forward to picking up more pairs of the V1s for a great price next year.
For me Tempus is close to perfect. 900km on them and still strong
how you find the arch?
@@FordyRuns i have really high archs, so they fit me perfectly. I just notice they hug my midfoot. I guess that's key to enjoy them.
My Tempus outsole cracked,in half(!) after just 1 halfmarathon. I returned them.
+1 for the Tempus. My first pair went 750 miles, currently up to just under 400 in my second pair. No arch issues here. Really pleased the V2 is an upper only update, as it means I'll be able to pick up my third and fourth pairs of Tempus V1 for a great price later next year.
For me I use the Saucony Tempus as a race day/faster workout shoe. By far the fastest and most enjoyable stability shoe I’ve had.
But still I always have a trusty pair of Brooks Adrenalines to fall back on. They are the best shoe to lace up and go out for a plod around the block. Perfect for those days where you can forget about the shoe and just enjoy the run.
the new ones are great
@@FordyRuns Currently on the 22's at the moment but just hit 800k (and still feeling good) so I'll be in the market for another pair soon.
I also love The Saucony Tempus, but I have to say that I’m impressed with the grip on the Puma Forever Runs that I’ve got. I’m using the Pumas as Winter running shoes, because the grip gives me confidence on wet leaves and the like. I’m really looking forward to the Saucony Tempus 2 though, can’t wait for it to come out.
Asics GT 2000 12 is a wonderful trainer - really enjoying it
The Puma Forever Run is a fantastic shoe. Super smooth and supportive, a real joy to run in. Plus, you can find it for mucho dinero cheaper than the Asics and NB shoes mentioned here. Factor in the longevity of the sole and it really is a great support shoe and excellent value.
I recently bought the GT2000 12 and am really enjoying it so far! Feels so much smoother than the clunky Glycerin GTS. Do you think the GT2000 is cushioned enough for marathon miles? Early indications seem good.
I’ve got the Guide 15 and it’s great for shorter easy runs, particularly when you’re recovering from a longer run. And very cheap - there are some good deals on the 16, too. For anything over half marathon distance it’s quite firm, though. I’ve also got the Tempus which has seen me through two marathons this year and which I love. Comfortable, enough guidance, and I don’t find issues with the arch thankfully. But it never really comes down in price despite being nearly two years old now!
Im still on the tempus, but I’ve also ended up using more stable neutral shoes like the Boston 12 and I’ve been fine. The lines between stability and neutral are blurring in places
I’ve got the Forever Run Nitro, 2 x Guide 15s and the Tempus. I honestly think the Tempus is the best stability shoe ever, I’ve smashed my PBs in it this year (I’ve also trained better so maybe it’s that 😂). The outsole isn’t that durable but I don’t think the Puma is either really. The 2000-12 is probably my next purchase though, they look great.
Same! I love the Tempus and went to check out other shoes. I really liked the GT 2000-12 and the Vongo6s. Did you end up getting the GT2000-12s? How’d you like them? I also like the Altra Paradigms very much
So many great shoes with high to minor stability around ... the three models I liked the most and I got them in 2023 : Asics GT 2000 12 , Nike Structure 25 and the Adidas SolarBoost 5 .
Honorary mention to the Adidas SolarGlide line that is always a great fantastic stability shoes with a very good guidance system.
good shout
For pure comfort it would be my Altra Paradigms, but the outsole just didn’t last long enough to justify getting another pair. But for my faster efforts, nothing performs like my Saucony Tempus. If I could only have one shoe for all types of training and races, it would be the Tempus. It really can do it all.
tempus 2 incoming
Tempus Fordy! great one for sability. Also the new Ride 17 (out) and Guide 17 almost out ...... expecting a ride 17 review form you!
Ride 17 drops Wednesday and I’m still waiting for my guide 17 to arrive 🤦♂️
nice one Fordy! @@FordyRuns Ride looks like TRiumph 21.5 with a lower drop ....
Mizuno Wave Horizon 6. Built like a tank and I love it.
Was Brooks, currently trying out the New Balance 860v13. Now thinking about getting the Vongo also.
Loves the gt 2000-12 wide. My current rotation is nb860v13 and gt2k-12. Can't wait for the Asics S4 to arrive soon to complete the rotation.
looks like a good shoe
Hey Haryo,
I am currently looking at both, gt2k and nb860v13. May I ask which you prefer and why? They feel pretty similar to me. Thanks!
@@scottashdown3686 the gt2k is definitely lighter, peppier and cushy for longer run. But back then, the 860v13 cost $40. So i went with the cheaper. Nb860v13 was my only shoes back then.. does everything with it, daily to half races. now it serves as daily and longer run or any run where i just need to be in auto cruise mode and just enjoy everything. It gives the secure and stable feelings when my body kinda sore, tired but still wanna go run/jog/power walk for meditational purpose.
Gt2k still better for faster pace and races. However, Just go with whatever fits your feet anatomy and budgets. Never had blisters or anything with both. 860v13 is definitely more stable and secure than gt2k, also heavier. But probably gonna be hella cheaper now that v14 is already released.
I love the Glycerin GTS for all my easy runs and looking forward to giving the Hyperion GTS a blast soon
Hi Fordy. Thanks for your great content. I got the Tempus v1 from your recommendation and its been great 😁. Needs to replace soon so what would you recommend - GT 2000 v12, Vongo v6, Puma Forever Run or wait for the Tempus v2?
Thanks so much 👍🏾
I love the Saucony Tempus because it’s so lightweight. Right now I’m running in the Keyano and the Vongo. The Vongo doesn’t feel as heavy as it is when you run in it. I have to be very careful selecting my stability shoes as my right foot is completely normal and average and doesn’t need stability. My left foot has a low arch, not flat foot but lower than average. As a result I experience Metatarsalgia at toes 2and 3 and the sensation in the ball of my left foot like it’s hitting the pavement barefoot. When I run in a stability shoe all those symptoms disappear but if the medial post is too hard my right arch is uncomfortable. At the running shoe store they recommend buying neutral shoes and a custom made insert for $150 😮 They said I don’t need stability because my ankles don’t roll in and are aligned so neutral. But the symptoms on my left foot are undoubtedly the arch collapsing flat. I think all that means I need a stability shoe that is not too extreme for my neutral right foot. Difficult!
Feel like i definitely need a stability or maybe just a guidance shoe, but can't seem to want to get away from the more fun neutral shoes. Current rotation is Nike Invincible Run 1, hoka Mach 5 and Saucony Endorphin Pro 3.
puma forever run?
@@FordyRuns funny enough I actually tried those on your recommendation and for some reason they were kind of stiff in the midsole and upper. Maybe I didn't give them enough time but needed to return them in time to get my money back lol
Thanks Fordy, I am a neutral runner but here is my Like. Cheers.
GT2000v12 for £105 on sport shoes, well happy with them
Put them in a bag and throw them out the window. Then go and buy the Tempus.
Only joking, the Tempus for me though.
With the arch issue, I think I know the issue. I have the Tempus in a 10. I am a size 9.5, but I need the extra room, for my flat foot collapse increase in length. The arch fits perfectly.
I recently bought a 10.5 to train in for an ultra. The extra 1/2 for foot 🦶 swell over long distances. The extra 1/2 made a difference and I could feel the uncomfortable arch under foot. I think the last one my 10.5 is similar to the larger sizes, with the arch support further forward.
Love the kayano and Gt, GT for picking up the pace, but it fits a tad long.
I love the GT
I’d give my vote to the Tempus, although I still love my original NB Prism 👌🏻
For me personally, nothing beats the saucony guide 15 and 16. They are the best all around stability shoe I absolutely love them and have just bought a new pair of both. Got the guide 15 for £55 and guide 16 for £77. Not beating the shoe at those prices.
my 17 coming this week
@@FordyRuns amazing! Can't wait for the review 👌👌
Got the 15 and found it incredibly firm, not for me
@@FordyRunsguide 17?
I picked up the Puma on sale, as my winter shoe. Bright yellow, great grip for when i go out for sn easy effort.
Good choice!
The tempus for me is the goat in stability, 900+k in them and just bought a second pair.
The best stability shoe I had was the NB Prism 1. I used it for both training and races. It kinda died at 400km. Did NB discontinue the Prism line because there were only 2 versions of it.
I am currently running the Asics GT2000-10 to prepare for my first marathon in the spring and I realy like how it hanldes. Which stability shoe would you recommend when it comes to the race? I am aiming for a sub 4 hour time.
not out yet but brooks elite 4
If u can source it. Asics S4. Currently JDM only.
HOKA ARAHI 6, I really love it ❤
What about the Saucony's tempus ??
tempus 2 incoming
@FordyRuns waiting with anticipation on this mine are on last legs... Any due date ??
Tempus 2 is an upper only update (they were discussed in some of the The Running Event videos), so I'm looking forward to picking up more pairs of the V1s for a great price next year.
I thought you have said many times Gude 16 is the best stability-shoe Fordy ;)
kayano 30 works great for me
great shoe
Adrenaline GTS?
the new version looks improved
I just got it and for me the midsole is kinda hard but it got some pop.
Top day to all 👍
thanks same to you
Tempus is still a thing.
tempus 2 incoming
@@FordyRunsany idea when?