Really wish Toyota would have brought in the 70 series as a real Wrangler competitor. The new ones in Australia look awesome. I would have bought one in second.
😊 young Case, kase spelling has really done a great job doing the on camera reviews. Very smooth and well thought out delivery and presentation. Kudos team
Have to comment with so many others saying this is an easy trail. This is Saints John out of Montezuma. Just did it in my 4Runner. It actually has some very steep parts and bigger rocks-don’t know why they did not show that but a low clearance awd vehicle will struggle. It is not super crazy but I would recommend using/having 4L.
I was excited for the new Landcruiser. I even like that color but I’m not really impressed with the side profile. The front looks ok. 🤔🤔 maybe it will grow on me over time. It does have all the off road features. I agree with having better tires. Good review. 😊
Landcruiser PRADO everywhere else world. They do go everywhere, have a look at last model Prado in Australia there is some great spots you can take them. Wonder if they throw the check engine light in sand low range if you get in soft sand?
One of the worst tfl video.. Toyota forced you to make it huh? Would have been interesting when the 250 was being previewed.. this video doesn’t push the bar on 250 yt content at all
@@NomenClature-o8s Sorry, what’s your point? I was referring specifically to the incorrect info presented in the video, nothing more, nothing less. Thanks.
Waiting till the Toyota Land Cruiser TRD Pro drops. Make it happen Toyota!! lift that bad boy and put on some 33’s at least and all the TRD goodies. Maybe ev
Nothing new TFL it’s literally repeating same content!! Y’all should take risk!!! Not talking specifically about this video but just count how many videos about the LC SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER!!
Curious why they went into low range? From all the camera shots of the trail, I didn't see anything that I havent been able to take my 2017 Jeep Cheokee Limited with a V6 on. No low range on it, just AWD with some decent off road tires.
@@youtubecarspottersguide1at least the tank is bigger but the LC is smaller along with the fuel tank. Taking premium gas and a premium price. DONT SEE THE VALUE…
Not a too bad gas mileage but you need prenium gas... at the end you don't save that much money.... they should have enginnered the engin to be optimal with regular gas....
It’s disappointing that Toyota puts 20” wheels on a lot of these and charges you an extra $1300 for them. Styling wise they look better than the stock 18” but who wants 20”s on a vehicle like this?
@@Reginald_Harrison I totally hear you, 20" wheels are silly on something that's designed to be driven off road. But to be fair, it's actually bowing to the EPA's insane fuel economy standards. It gets better mileage with 20" wheels so that's what it gets. If I bought one that would be the first thing I would change, along with removing the front air dam that kills your approach angle.
@@GregKittle How does it get better MPG with the optional 20” compared to the standard 18”? Where are you getting this info? It’s usually the complete opposite. It’ll also cost a lot more money to fit new tires to a 20” wheel.
@@Reginald_Harrison great question. I don't know where you're getting your information about it being "the complete opposite," but whoever it was proved their ignorance. It's just basic physics. There are two reasons for why a larger sidewall will reduce your mileage. For one, take two tires with the same diameter, and the one with a larger sidewall will weigh more than the low-profile tire. More rotational inertia means less efficiency. In fact, rotational inertia on your tires/wheels is one of the major things affecting your milage, believe it or not. Second, more sidewall means more rolling resistance since there's more sidewall compression with every rotation. You can look up any of the plethora of videos right here on RUclips that explain these concepts in much more detail than I have space for here, but that's the basic idea.
@@GregKittle Link me to a good video here on YT. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but all I can find is videos about cars stating the exact opposite e.g. bigger wheel = worse mpg. I can’t find anything about bigger wheel/less tire being more efficient than smaller wheel/more tire. It makes sense assuming the 20” wheel isn’t significantly heavier than the 18”. However, if the 20” wheel is more efficient why would Toyota make the 18” standard? You’d think they’d make the most efficient wheel/tire combo standard to appease the EPA.
So throw some 33inch BFG KO3s on it and decide if OEM skidplates and rock rails or aftermarket skidplates and rock rails si the best choice. Need to see how the rock rails attach.
Toyota specced those tires because they are cheap, and for fuel economy. Not sure how you can say the dash looks good - it is just super cheap and plasticky looking. Look at the instrument binnacle -it’s horrible. I would get this over the new 4Runner as it is made to much higher standards in Japan. The new 4Runner does not have frame mounted suspension bump stops - like the new Taco - and there already have been failures.
Video cover states “top of the world” which is a place in Moab. Zero chance any suv type vehicle will go as you need to rock crawl. Super disappointing to see that the title is “massive mountain”
So what’s the difference between a new 4Runner and a new Land Cruiser? Both are IFS both made by yota both have small displacement hybrid engines? Whats the difference? Just body size ?
Land Cruiser starts at a higher price. Since they changed to the smaller LC for the American market, it’s an interesting situation with the 4Runner, LC, and Lexus GX all being part of the same category
Fulltime vs part-time (offroad 4runner trims), different look, different heights and visibility, a few different options, but yes, very similar vehicles.
@@bd103dall so from a Jeep guy who likes Toyotas too, correct me if I’m wrong. The Land Cruiser looks cool and new but the tried and true 4Runner is still pretty much more capable and off road savy then the LC?
No. 4Hi just means it's in 4 wheel drive as opposed to 2 wheel drive.(Or 4 auto, where you'll be in 2wd and it gives power to the front wheels as needed). So it's driving with the front and rear diffs at the same time. Locking the center diff means you're distributing the power equally between the front and rear. Many 4 wheel drive systems don't automatically split power 50/50 between the front and rear (it may be 40/60, for example). Locking the center diff ensures it does.
@@backwoodstherapy I'm under the impression that for most if not all trucks and truck-based SUVs with part time 4WD, putting it in 4WD (4H or 4L) locks the transfer case and splits power 50/50 front and rear
Toyota has a long history of making some of the ugliest 4x4s on U.S. roads and this new Land Cruiser keeps the tradition going. Y U C K. The edges, the shapes, the extreme positive offset wheels, the interior layout, just awful. This thing looks like something you would have seen in a third world nation back in the 1980s. Why can't they hire at least one or two American automotive designers to work on U.S. models??
@@NomenClature-o8s could be, although I tend to think he's a GM guy. For whatever reason they're just known to harbor extreme hatred for every other brand, especially Toyota. To be fair all fanboys are that way, but the GM kids have earned a reputation for being the worst.
Toyota did use a couple American automotive designers, and the 6th Gen 4Runner was the result... no thanks. Had been waiting for the update for years, and as soon as I saw it I started gravitating toward the LC.
Really wish Toyota would have brought in the 70 series as a real Wrangler competitor. The new ones in Australia look awesome. I would have bought one in second.
😊 young Case, kase spelling has really done a great job doing the on camera reviews. Very smooth and well thought out delivery and presentation. Kudos team
I'm not really sure why Toyota won't build a really great offroader like the old FJ Cruiser again...
Not much of a test really.
Subaru could do this, even Honda accord
Toyota doesn’t want another car to break on RUclips
Honestly think my Miata could handle this road 😂
@@chris-qo1nt The LC250 is built for the world market, unlike the american centric tacoma.
My new CR-V could have done it for 25k less
Have to comment with so many others saying this is an easy trail. This is Saints John out of Montezuma. Just did it in my 4Runner. It actually has some very steep parts and bigger rocks-don’t know why they did not show that but a low clearance awd vehicle will struggle. It is not super crazy but I would recommend using/having 4L.
Low-profile offroad tires are silly!
Pretty worthless, you can’t air down.
I was excited for the new Landcruiser. I even like that color but I’m not really impressed with the side profile. The front looks ok. 🤔🤔 maybe it will grow on me over time. It does have all the off road features. I agree with having better tires. Good review. 😊
Landcruiser PRADO everywhere else world.
They do go everywhere, have a look at last model Prado in Australia there is some great spots you can take them.
Wonder if they throw the check engine light in sand low range if you get in soft sand?
Not really. In most of the europe the 200/300 series is/was not sold. And the Prado is sold as LandCruiser.
Great video!! love the land cruiser!
One of the worst tfl video.. Toyota forced you to make it huh?
Would have been interesting when the 250 was being previewed.. this video doesn’t push the bar on 250 yt content at all
I’m pretty sure I did that route in a Datsun b210 hatch back in the 80’s
The 4Runner Limited has full-time 4-wheel drive. 5:08
And?
@@fredmertz3837Watch the video, Fred….
But the Limited doesn’t have crawl control.
@@NomenClature-o8s Sorry, what’s your point? I was referring specifically to the incorrect info presented in the video, nothing more, nothing less. Thanks.
@@Gnargoyle811amazing how some people just can’t process info isn’t it?
Good to see Jeff out there
Nice new SUV from Toyota need to look at one. To bad they don’t put a the wheels that they have on the Tacoma. looks like they’ll work on there.
So sick love this thing
I’m looking forward to your GX vs Landcruiser off-road video where you put them both to the test
4runner leading the pack ..
That’s a dirt road. Seems like a Kia SUV would do that with no problem.
My bicycle just laughed at the “trail”
Waiting till the Toyota Land Cruiser TRD Pro drops. Make it happen Toyota!! lift that bad boy and put on some 33’s at least and all the TRD goodies. Maybe ev
This is neat!
Locking the diffs for a fire road 😂
News flash!!!! A stock $75k "off-road" SUV can drive down a dirt road🎉🎉🎉🎉
And?
@@poppa_da_cornmost 2wd cars could do it. Are you tarded?
@@BrantTheResidentCalvinist I reiterate...and? Your point? Does it hurt your little woke feelings that he uses the vehicles available tools?
@@poppa_da_corn It's like using a sledgehammer to put a sewing needle through a piece of cloth
Thanks
Nothing new TFL it’s literally repeating same content!! Y’all should take risk!!! Not talking specifically about this video but just count how many videos about the LC SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER!!
I bet Toyota doesn't put aggressive tires on them stock because they know buyers are going to put their own tires on them in the majority of cases.
No, I think the majority of drivers will take these to the local Kroger and Costco...
For CAFE MPG rating
Someone explain to me what the center locking differential does. They said it has a rear and center but no front locker.
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Jeff seems like a good co-driver!
Are these guys all engineers by training?
I wish these things would not need premium and that they would have put a transfer case lever. At least just to shift to 4Lo.
Curious why they went into low range? From all the camera shots of the trail, I didn't see anything that I havent been able to take my 2017 Jeep Cheokee Limited with a V6 on. No low range on it, just AWD with some decent off road tires.
A lot of spots are steep and loose. Great trail! It comes out in Breckenridge for a full day of wheeling above timberline!
You will eventually go back down, that’s where you want 4-Low. Since you are going into low range eventually, why not enjoy it on the way up?
Keeps transmission temperatures cooler to stay in 4 Low.
Looks iike the same type of tires they have on the LC200.
dumbest battery placement ever takes up so much room in the rear hatch seriously poor packaging.
better than the sequoia TRD pro fold down 3rd row seats
Thats the trend in new toyotas. Sad
@@youtubecarspottersguide1at least the tank is bigger but the LC is smaller along with the fuel tank. Taking premium gas and a premium price. DONT SEE THE VALUE…
Non-hybrid version would be appreciated.
For non-hybrid if you want cheaper, that's the 4Runner. If you want nicer, that's the GX.
Not gonna happen unfortunately.
Not a too bad gas mileage but you need prenium gas... at the end you don't save that much money.... they should have enginnered the engin to be optimal with regular gas....
It really needs better tire's and the a lift from factory. FOX or OME.
What’s OME ?
@@blakemarchand6650 Old Man Emu based down under. Not the best choice for the good ole USA.
Icon is a better choice
@@fredmertz3837 oh word, I didn’t know the abbreviation but I have EMU leaf springs on my YJ
@fredmertz3837 OME stuff is awesome. I have a 2.5-inch lift from them on my TJ.
Toyota design team slacking on all their new cars and trucks. They all look the same and this looks like a defender/bronco mixed together.
It’s disappointing that Toyota puts 20” wheels on a lot of these and charges you an extra $1300 for them.
Styling wise they look better than the stock 18” but who wants 20”s on a vehicle like this?
@@Reginald_Harrison I totally hear you, 20" wheels are silly on something that's designed to be driven off road. But to be fair, it's actually bowing to the EPA's insane fuel economy standards. It gets better mileage with 20" wheels so that's what it gets. If I bought one that would be the first thing I would change, along with removing the front air dam that kills your approach angle.
@@GregKittle How does it get better MPG with the optional 20” compared to the standard 18”?
Where are you getting this info? It’s usually the complete opposite.
It’ll also cost a lot more money to fit new tires to a 20” wheel.
@@Reginald_Harrison great question. I don't know where you're getting your information about it being "the complete opposite," but whoever it was proved their ignorance.
It's just basic physics. There are two reasons for why a larger sidewall will reduce your mileage. For one, take two tires with the same diameter, and the one with a larger sidewall will weigh more than the low-profile tire. More rotational inertia means less efficiency. In fact, rotational inertia on your tires/wheels is one of the major things affecting your milage, believe it or not. Second, more sidewall means more rolling resistance since there's more sidewall compression with every rotation.
You can look up any of the plethora of videos right here on RUclips that explain these concepts in much more detail than I have space for here, but that's the basic idea.
@@GregKittle Link me to a good video here on YT. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but all I can find is videos about cars stating the exact opposite e.g. bigger wheel = worse mpg.
I can’t find anything about bigger wheel/less tire being more efficient than smaller wheel/more tire.
It makes sense assuming the 20” wheel isn’t significantly heavier than the 18”.
However, if the 20” wheel is more efficient why would Toyota make the 18” standard? You’d think they’d make the most efficient wheel/tire combo standard to appease the EPA.
Totally agree…my dealer is only getting the LC trim in with the 20” factory option is so frustrating.
So throw some 33inch BFG KO3s on it and decide if OEM skidplates and rock rails or aftermarket skidplates and rock rails si the best choice. Need to see how the rock rails attach.
Body mounted 👎🏻
Winch too
My AWD Taurus could do that trail.
For sure. Throw on some m/ts and it would probably kick that overpriced pos ars.
Make sure you have plenty of brake pad left for the way down. You’ll be on your brakes 90% of the time going downhill without low range.
Toyota specced those tires because they are cheap, and for fuel economy. Not sure how you can say the dash looks good - it is just super cheap and plasticky looking. Look at the instrument binnacle -it’s horrible.
I would get this over the new 4Runner as it is made to much higher standards in Japan. The new 4Runner does not have frame mounted suspension bump stops - like the new Taco - and there already have been failures.
My FJ Cruiser is more of a true 'Land Cruiser' than this new pretender. I'd opt for a used Heritage edition at that price point.
4 real doors make a difference
GX or Land Cruiser?
LC 1958 base model no opts or GX550 overtail moon roof delete
Neither. Give their engines a few more years. I'd prefer the GX's V-6 if and when it's bulletproof.
Enjoyed that, thanks guys; I think Toyota knows that most people who buy these will use them to run the kids to school, hence the tyre choice..
Toyota really need to take them to Rubithon 😎
I thought it was a Ford Bronco at first
Video cover states “top of the world” which is a place in Moab. Zero chance any suv type vehicle will go as you need to rock crawl. Super disappointing to see that the title is “massive mountain”
I’ve done harder trails in my Durango
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name of the trail?
yeah...name??
Looks like St. Johns out of Montezuma.
Saints John's is the name it's a good one but got easier after the forest service took a bulldozer to it.
So what’s the difference between a new 4Runner and a new Land Cruiser? Both are IFS both made by yota both have small displacement hybrid engines? Whats the difference? Just body size ?
Land Cruiser starts at a higher price. Since they changed to the smaller LC for the American market, it’s an interesting situation with the 4Runner, LC, and Lexus GX all being part of the same category
Fulltime vs part-time (offroad 4runner trims), different look, different heights and visibility, a few different options, but yes, very similar vehicles.
@@bd103dall so from a Jeep guy who likes Toyotas too, correct me if I’m wrong. The Land Cruiser looks cool and new but the tried and true 4Runner is still pretty much more capable and off road savy then the LC?
@@blakemarchand6650 probably true. More ground clearance, and better approach, breakover and departure angles.
@@bd103dall I agree
Mall crawler on Subaru trails
A Corolla can probably complete that 2WD trail
請問這車色的色號是多少呢？
isn't 4H the same as locking the center diff?
No. 4Hi just means it's in 4 wheel drive as opposed to 2 wheel drive.(Or 4 auto, where you'll be in 2wd and it gives power to the front wheels as needed). So it's driving with the front and rear diffs at the same time. Locking the center diff means you're distributing the power equally between the front and rear. Many 4 wheel drive systems don't automatically split power 50/50 between the front and rear (it may be 40/60, for example). Locking the center diff ensures it does.
@@backwoodstherapy I'm under the impression that for most if not all trucks and truck-based SUVs with part time 4WD, putting it in 4WD (4H or 4L) locks the transfer case and splits power 50/50 front and rear
When is the test video?
Last thursday a week from now.
Finally. Somebody aired down
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Elevation?
Street tires? Not serious, not watching.
Landsnoozer lol
i can answer the Q, yes it can make, id have to watch thr video if it was a bronco/jeep
Blablabla no action
It sounds like a vacuum cleaner, pathetic for the LC name plate
Whats the point of having a center diff lock? 4lo does the same thing, it sends power to the front and rear equally.
4wd low uses a low gear ratio to increase torque, it does not guarantee equal power to the front and rear…that’s what the center diff lock does.
No
This is overlanding… exactly what this thing was designed for
A mountain usually is massive.
Except when it's not.
Don't make a mountain out of mole hill....
@@Dusdaddy 😂
It's hard to get massive mountains here in Colorado when they start above 10,000 feet. High, but not huge.
Toyota needs to make the Land Cruiser 76 in America. Stop giving us this fake version.
The 76 isnt that great lol
Or at least bring the basic spec version of the LC 300. . .
@@DaciaProject right! Whatever happen to given different options so you aren’t buying a 60K car just to beat up when you take it off-roading.
It’s a Japanese company
@@rickyaz8640 and? That doesn't make them god like vehicles
Meh vehicle - not designed for 35” tires even
Massive or tame. Pointless
Toyota has a long history of making some of the ugliest 4x4s on U.S. roads and this new Land Cruiser keeps the tradition going. Y U C K. The edges, the shapes, the extreme positive offset wheels, the interior layout, just awful. This thing looks like something you would have seen in a third world nation back in the 1980s. Why can't they hire at least one or two American automotive designers to work on U.S. models??
Wow, that was a mouthful of hate for the sake of being a fan boy of a different brand 😂
He probably drives a Ford Ranger. Although he will claim to own 5 or 6 of the greatest cars ever made.
@@NomenClature-o8s could be, although I tend to think he's a GM guy. For whatever reason they're just known to harbor extreme hatred for every other brand, especially Toyota. To be fair all fanboys are that way, but the GM kids have earned a reputation for being the worst.
Toyota did use a couple American automotive designers, and the 6th Gen 4Runner was the result... no thanks. Had been waiting for the update for years, and as soon as I saw it I started gravitating toward the LC.
Sigh .. these guys really sold out:.. had enough of the shilling.. this is a expensive, underpowered mall crawler
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