Is Jujutsu Kaisen Getting Repetitive?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Jujutsu Kaisen has recently soured in a lot of fan's perceptions of it, as it has been accused of becoming repetitive and that it is drawing itself out for no reason. Today I want to share my thoughts on this claim, mostly explaining why I don't think its true by both comparing it to other manga contemporaries as well as analyzing the current narrative.
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What do you think? Has the manga gotten repetitive?
Honestly it peaked in shibuya
Yes largely because to me there hasn't benn a moment ware is it felt like the good guys might win since sukuna got hit with the judgement sword
Most of the fights you mentioned and all the ones amoungst them I actually likes had moments ware it was like omg can x random person actually pull it off and this has lacked those for me
That acerbates with another issue with the order of the fights even if you were never buying vegeta beating friesza for example you still were hoping he would hold freiza long enough for goku the guy you think actually can win to show up and most of the fights you mentioned have sections like that ware they are buying time foe luffy ichigo Naruto etc the problem is the trump card the guy they would normally buy time for went first and lost which means unless gege can honestly convince you each of these random guys might actually beat sukuna which as I pointed out he is doing worse than other magaka that had something else to fall back on then the fights will feel like pointless filler
Nah, my goats Yuji and Kusakabe got time to shine, the jjk memes are going even harder now than ever, Sukuna hit a black flash, and best of all the Megumi Fushiguro (A.K.A Potential Man) being trash agenda persists. The chaos in the community + all this heat makes the manga fun to read because I know Gege is gonna do something crazy, the community will tweak, or both. Also as long as my boy Yuji lives to see another day I'll always love jjk.
No, me and my friend were talking about it and I like the way we get to see the entire case against Sukuna and getting to see the full potential of them
Most certainly
Just you wait til Utahime, Miwa, Ui Ui, Mei Mei, Todo with one arm, Inumaki's armless self, Mechamaru's corpse, and Shoko pull up, die, and leave it to the real main character, Panda to win. Panda is boosted by Takaba's comedian, "Wouldn't it be funny is Panda's cursed energy reserves were beyond Sukuna's?" Then Panda performs 9.314 black flashes and a white flash, using Gojo's blindfold or undies as a weapon(like Kusakabe) and unleashing hits imbued with hollow purple. Panda is greatly damaged but uses his newly found reverse cursed energy to heal himself, he unsheathes Yuta's blade and begins to copy Takaba's comedian which is still affecting him, reverse comedian: "Shit yourself". Panda exclaims. "For the first time since birth, Sukuna felt true terror." -Narrator
Panda kills Sukuna, ending Kaisen JutsuJu.
Then the next page is the whole cast laughing at a brain dead Sukuna, having these hallucinations from the unlimited void Gojo hit several chapters ago.
Ui Ui , Todo with one arm and Inumaki armless (somewhat) did pull up💀💀💀
This is pure art.
Ive stopped enjoying it once it became clear a lot of the characters exist to die and make us miserable. The series was a lot of fun at the beginning, but once characters started to drop like flies, so to did my interest.
Nobara, in particular is such a waste of one of the main cast, that it needs to be STUDIED how badly he fumbled her.
No one cares about nobara its just you lil bro
@@Six-bw3ir and you believe what you’re saying?🤨
Yes I'm with him ... Gege did a good job taking that stupid b*tch out of the series@@lebrondavis1420
@@Six-bw3irnobara was a baddie all us real ones fw her
@quanwashington she was not a baddie Yuki is top baddie 🗣🗣💯
1. Person fights Sukuna.
2.Sukuna is mildly impressed(excluding Gojo)
3. Sukuna kills them.
4.Narrator says how Sukuna is still holding back.
5. Person fights him.
6. Repeat
I don't know what the hell you are talking about. You are objectively wrong.
Since when was Uraume was the narrator
The fourth one only happened once 😂
Thanks for the comment it was quite frustrating that this dude yapped about bs during the whole video
Agreed, no idea what he's talking about. I haven't personally seen anyone upset with the length of the battle itself, it seems irrelevant imo. The main issue people have is the 'sukuna cycle'.
It is repetitive in the sense that it is quite formulaic.
New character introduced, glaze the new character, sukuna gets his ass kicked, almost dies, heroes technique CONVENIENTLY doesn't work, sukuna wins, Sukuna was not even trying.
None of the fights made any progress because according to gege sukuna is apparently not even trying.
So there goes your point about fights making any progress.
exactly
yup it's not just repetitive it's the convenience of how he almost loose and suddenly winning. felt so cheap.
It has. But it’s Geges own doing. He’s purposely conditioned the audience into thinking no one can beat Sukuna after that “He hasn’t even gone all out yet” from Uraume. Sukuna has survived two methods that were meant to be sure hit kills and he’s defeated the most powerful character on the heroes side. Now it’s like “okay, why do I care if Miguel shows up? He’s just going to get beaten by Sukuna like everyone else” it takes the excitement and intrigue out of the story that was there when Yuta and Yuji were fighting Sukuna.
Okay but narratively speaking it’s pretty clear that the only person that’s going to beat sukuna here is the MC himself yuji so everyone should’ve known from the beginning that no one else was going to beat sukuna besides yuji narratively speaking as he’s the one that suffered the most from Sukuna’s actions and has the most hatred towards sukuna after what he did in shibuya, stole megumi’s body, and killed Gojo and Higuruma.
@@CJ-qv4sdI think everyone knows that but aren’t confident that gege won’t write it well.
@@CJ-qv4sd even with knowing that, which is pretty obvious to some degree, the way it’s been executed hasn’t been that good imo. There could have been something like a macguffin implanted by Gege or a scenario that gives a sense of urgency. For example, Sukuna knowing he’s in his weakest state and in order for him to get back his full power there’s some sort of ritual he needs to do or an object that he needs to obtain for it to happen. That gives the main protagonists something to work towards I.e The mission is to not let Sukuna obtain this object or he will be back at 100%, boom. But when you make it known that no one has a chance in hell then it takes all the edge out of the story and you’re basically waiting for it to end or the monotony to stop.
@@pubixcube27 you know for a fact everyone is going to still dislike that by calling sukuna a fraud when he’s meant to be the strongest sorcerer in history, I feel like what Gege is trying to do here is make his side characters have their moments to give it their all before the story ends because we already know how anime/manga fans react when they see a story filled with side characters that end up not doing much like Naruto for example (even though I disagree with that take on naruto) so Gege is trying to make everyone give it their all before the final fight so that it’s not all just about yuji. I feel like the reason these past few chapters have annoyed people is because of weekly fatigue as you have to wait every week or two to see a character lose but if you were to read it in volumes you wouldn’t need to anticipate a character losing every week and it would just flow by much better without waiting for anything. If anything this is all just buildup towards yuji finally getting stronger through a possible awakening and beating sukuna in a way that will satisfy everyone that was complaining about him being too strong as we’ve seen this before in other shonen like Frieza for example being too strong on Namek to the point he wasn’t going all out at all and was toying with the Z fighters to him finally going all out against SSJ Goku only to get beaten up and humiliated.
@@CJ-qv4sd I see that it would make sense for Yuji to be the one to defeat Sukuna, but he also got hit with the WCS back in 251 along with Yuta so 🤷
I seen a list that read “everyone sukuna has beaten ranked from weakest to strongest” that only cemented to me the fact that he’s becoming too powerful and basically no one is really left so idk how gege will take out sukuna
Easy, An asspull. I mean it only makes sense being that gege made him too strong, and high chance is that Yuji will probably get his cursed technique soon and we all know It'll be some broken ability that completely obliterates sukuna which is just lazy writing I mean come on.
@@krispysandwich3268 yeah gege said that gojo was too strong and a problem storywise and he fixed the issue of this by killing him with an even stronger character in sukuna and now everyone is just dropping like damn flies all over the place and I find it crazy that the gojo clan or the kamo clan hasn’t pulled up they must really be sorry sorcerers then
The mardara effect is probably gonna happen
assuming he WILL take him out
@@lebrondavis1420 i thought satoru was the only one alive in the gojo clan
I think the problem isnt the fact that low level characters are losing to Sukuna, its that they spend so much time hyping them up, and exploring their character motivations, all for it to just not mater. Hikaruma died for literally nothing. He accomplished nothing in the story. Kusakabe dies just so Miguel can come in and be hyped up to fight Sukuna. Imagine my surprise when Sukuna kills him in the next chapter. Same with Maki. What did she do in the fight? She accomplished nothing. This also applies to fights outside of Sukuna's, like Kugisaki's death, or Yuki. It feels like there are so many characters that get introduced to accomplish nothing in the story, which makes people ask the question: why am I still invested in this story?
"why am I still invested in the story?"
Because a story doesn't need to have a mindblowing fight at each chapter to be interesting.
Sukuna vs gojo was peak, and the art was amazing, the story was at its peak but after that, gege just be throwing every character from his verse at sukuna and the ending is always the same, the art on top of that isnt good. Itadoris classmates vs Sukuna will be fire tho
I 100% agree with you. I remember re-reading the Moro arc after it ended. Can't remember the exact chapter names, but i remember i taking a few months for it to go from SSJG Vegeta vs Moro to Vegeta going to Yadrat.
It took less than a 2 hours to cover that same content.
To me its just weird how all these characters are supposed to do anything after only a 1 month time skip. Sukuna is a 1000 year old embodyment of jujutsu. To me it seems like they would need years to even be able to have a shot.
Tbh I think it's impressive they even injury him at all because his experience of battle outclassed them multiple times over
"Ah yes, my Anti-Repetitiveness plot constructor I haven't used since the Heian era"
gege troll us
💀
*Flashback to the movie*
Miguel: 🤕 🏃🏽♂️
Gege I love you but cmon
Your examples of other long fights didn't really help your point. The freiza and kaido examples specifically are NOTORIOUS for how drawn out they are, and are some of the absolute longest fights in anime of all time.
How does it not? He used buu and madara as examples and it’s not the first.
Atleast they were animated
You missed the point of why he brought it up. Nobody was complaining “Oh the manga is getting repetitive the villain is just gonna fight them and kill them 1 by 1” when frieza and kaido’s fights happened but they’re doing it for Sukuna and that’s literally what this video is trying to find out, *why.*
So where was the outcry for those fights
@@itsjustvin7630 it's literally a meme how long the goku freiza fight is
It is 100 percent repetitive. Just because there are breaks between chapters and they are released doesn't mean it's not reprieve. It means dragging quite frankly. It's repetitive because it's the same general idea of sukuna fighting someone. Beating them. And having someone else do the same. Kaido fight wasn't repetitive. Just dragged out because how oda sidelined luffy and there was a bunch of stuff going on the raid. The frezia fight was not repetitive. As everyone was waiting for goku to heal, we had piccolo fuse with nail taking on second form frezia. We got a glimpse of more of gohans potential and not to mention vegetas character struggles with frieza. Jjk has nothing like this. Just sukuna getting weaker with every fight and someone else biting the dust. Once all the chapters come out that will absolutely not change how these recent chapters have felt in my opinion opinion. Just because you decide to use a side character doesn't make the story decisions good. Like there are zero stakes when kukasabe joined. It's not a good character or story choice and it did not add to kukasabes character at all. Especially since the fight ended so fast
While you've made good points, especially reading the manga as it's being released when that really kills its pacing, to me the reason this fight is repetitive is that it feels like Gege is backing themself into a corner and a lot of the minor victories feel pointless. For example, yes Kashimo did make it so Sukuna couldn't use the Ten Shadows, but that's after he basically killed the good ones, including one we never saw, and while he still would've had Divine Dogs, Rabbit Escape, and Toad, besides DD for offense and RE as a diversion they probably wouldn't be able to do much unless he does another totality. And before you say they'd already be combined with the other dead Shikigami, while that's something that would likely happen, I doubt it since we never saw any Shikigami inherit anything from Orochi. The other thing that makes this feel repetitive is how underwhelming some of these are beyond the minor victories. I'm someone who was hyped for Kashimo vs Sukuna because while I knew he was gonna lose, I expected Kashimo to do more. It doesn't help that the manga keeps reinforcing Sukuna is holding back, hyping up the next combatant in some way before they get beat, and had a few moments that while make sense, feel stupid, such as when Deadly Sentencing target Sukuna's cursed object rather than him because while there was a precedent for it with the battle between Yuji and Higuruma, it still feels bad because this is something neither the cast nor Sukuna could've planned for because it never happened before to the characters.
It was foreshadowed t happened to yuji his cursed energy was taken away instead of his CT, it was basically in our faces the whole time that higarumas domain would take anything with CE and it clearly priorities the most immediate threat and that would be sukuna cursed tool. If sukuna had it at anypoint in this fight the battle would have ended if it weren't for higaruma yuji would be dead Rika would be one shot by it anyone who doesn't have enough dura to withstand it gets one shot pretty much
True man for me it’s the constant reminder that oh sukuna is using 20% or 30 or something is what makes these little victories suddenly feel like pointless
@@Six-bw3irI acknowledge the Yuji vs Higuruma moment, my point about it was it was extremely disappointing because no one could plan for Confiscation taking the tool. It felt like the story bent itself to an outcome that'd be favorable for Sukuna. On top of that, we barely got to see the tool do anything and considering Yuji and Yuta have RCT and Rika has a lot of CE thanks to Yuta, they could still most likely survive bolts from the item or potentially even dodge it.
*Miguel has the advantage*
"Ah yes, the N word pass I haven't used since the Heian Era"
*Miguel's head rolls on the ground*
"We have the same type of stand"
*Get's the Heian Era whip*
The racism within the anime community is shameful.
@@elijah8987
It's a joke, laugh.
@@elijah8987 womp womp
I just want to say, their post Satoru plan was 💩 💩 💩
Nah
Idk bruh they literally taken down kenjaku and couldn't forsee that megumi would reject saving, if he didn't and sukuna got knocked out of his heian form it'd be huge
First off I literally have seen people drop the buu saga
B I think my problem isn't that the fight is long but that it feels like it hasn't substantially progressed in too long
For example everyone vs frieza there is much more of a back and fortg like there was always some perceived win con picolo getting there picolo takeing of his weights vegetas zenkai gokus arrival the 20x kaioken the spirt bomb and finally super sayain
All of these were moments that were built up to that felt like they could have led to friezas defeat and audience pretty much always new at least one of these was coming soon so they never felt like nothing wad happening
So far there have benn 3 from what I remember gojo landing a domain gojo landing purple and that guy landing his instant kill sword
This men's its benn a large number of chapters with out the audience knowing how the charecters think they will beat sukuna
That fight also saved the strongest protagonist for the end makeing the audience wonder if he will be there in time this does the opposite witch leads to a hype beginning but has unfortunately left the fight not as can the hero get here in time to save the day and instead as if the hero already showed up and got his ass kicked then who the fuck can beat sukuna
Exactly this, said it all
Gege is so desperate to shock readers that he lost the point of his manga, I truly believe up until gojos death/hanas death the manga worked (atleast somehow) it still had issues (nobara,...) but it worked but gege just lost it, he puts character in the story with the sole purpose to kill them and shock viewers, this worked with junpei but not after u saw it for the 10th time, im now more surprised that character doesnt die more than when they die. For example hana, she is in the story only for the purpose of unsealing gojo cuz gege didnt know how else to bring gojo back and kill him, and then hana just gets killed off in the dumbest way ever, then we have the whole sukuna fight which became so draining after yutas and makis fail. Im so tired of "b-but they weakend sukuna they weren't useless" how exactly did they weakened him? Except for taking away his cursed tool (which he used ONCE against a guy that the cursed tool had ZERO effect on) and taking away his domain expansion (and after that there were still like 3 people that 'weakened him' well is he is so fcking weakened yuji should just one shot his ass atp), i srs cant tell difference between wekaned sukuna and not weakened sukuna atp, maki literally stabbed bros heart and he still isnt dead and uraume tells us he still didnt go all out? Also where the hell is utahime? Inumaki? Todo? Like i understand meimei is too scared to die to go in but WHY ISNT UTAHIME THERE WHY IS THE CHARACTER SO FREAKING USELESS. Like lets be srs did anyone of js even expect kusakabe to do literally anything? And then Miguel pulls up, like i forgot this mf exist why the hell is he there (WHY IS HE THERE AND UTAHIME IS STILL HIDING???????). Why was even higuruma or kashimoto in the story? Like if you cut them out nothing changes (okay maybe higuruma did the rule and confiscated the cursed tool which could be avoided if the tool just wasn't there at all??? Like also wouldn't change anything since he didn't use it anyway) like kashimoto did absolutely nothing, if you cut him out you get the same story. And then we have hakari fighting uraume for like 7 months already and we saw them for like 15 panels, im just so tired of this manga atp
Fax
Imo I don't think this fight is repetitive but it's definitely not giving as much hype anymore sense it's getting less edge of the seat it's becoming more like they're just failing over and over
Yes,the manga fell off after 214 tbh
Trying to wait and act like it will get better doesn't really make sense,like obviously you judge something based on what currently exists,you can easily do the opposite and say it'll get even worse
Madara v2.
I do see the point with it getting repetitive it’s like one after another with who’s going to show up this time to land 1 hit on sukuna and then get hit out of the fight or die. But I do wonder if the author will go down the path to just have yuji still be the last one to land the final blow and everyone else dies at the end
i don't know why people are just now losing interest, or calling it out i guess. i just think there is absolutely zero character writing anymore? and things just happen to keep this fight going. so many characters have already died that the stakes just feel lower. so many fan favorites died so long ago, and now we have a main cast that can barely even be called that anymore. yuji still doesn't do anything which is still kinda crazy to me
"I wonder why a monster that killed 1000 sorcerers in a row is winning against 10 people in a row"
This is you.
It's all a massive battle against 1 monster, of course it takes time to show every charcter.
I know it sucks. This series just leaves you with nothing to hope for.
final season probably gonna be 20 episodes of fighting sukuna
jjk fandom is very much marvel fans 2.0, they embody the saying:
"Don't ask questions, just consume product and get hype for next product"
as someone who got into jjk just recently and read through all that's out, which assuming the double ladder works includes the whole sukuna fight
I do think it drags a bit, like I joked to myself about the chapter name basically being "fighting this one dude chapter 35"
but at the same time I like all the characters and most of what happens, and like, it was only a little tiring for me, I think it's mostly fine but entirely understand why people would drop out from it and feel that's fair, it's kinda just how it's written
3:43 I don’t think that’s its repetitive just more we want something different out of the 29 ish chapters
Skauna has done nothing but domain , da , worldslash and cleave. Has yet to do anything outside of that
The arguments u used with the manga is good but the problem is madara did what ? Showed versatility , meteors , sussano ,ems , rinnegan , wood style , fire style and hand to hand combat as well as sage mode
The one peice example people actually where getting tired of luffy and kaido because it started becoming the same crap but even then
U had how many different attacks? Luffy with Ryu , gear 4 snake man , gear 4 , gear 5 , all the variety attacks luffy has like gum gum pistol ect
Now I half to admit ignorance I don’t watch dbz like that so I won’t comment on such
But the things u listed what did they all have in common ? Variety
The only type of variety we r getting from jjk is just the cast not even the main villan
The problem with this a lot of the cast is around people u don’t give a shit about
Hakari barely ever in the story and isn’t a big deal although it’s a opinion in terms of the story he doesn’t come off as someone important
Kusakabe , higuruma : cool people for sure but let’s be honest who cares about them
Kashimo only had 1 fight and barely any importance to the story
Yuta being compared to GoJo multiple times as well as being a former Mc compared to the rest of the cast above he’s important to the story
Maki : who is just a version of toji because he’s a fan favorite as well as she needed the power up. Tell me the difference between maki hakari and yuji ? There fighting style is basically the same just hands at the end of the day none the less she’s important cause she a big 3 Ig
Now the other problems that r forming is gege is just basically wasting time , there’s kinda no point in giving detail about characters thst we don’t give af about , kusakabe for example getting some backstory on why he’s strong is nice but was it really needed ? Not really
So combing the fact of the fight is just very stale and whenever the cast do something impressive it’s immediately dismissed as sakuna wasn’t even trying
Which rubs people and viewers wrong as well as where waiting weeks and weeks which I think is also making it feel worse then it is
But not only that gege is kinda doing a cycle that’s starting to coming off as being repetitive
New character does nice for 1 chapter gets praises sakuna then kills them next chapter or beats them , then we rotate to the next character whxjh I think to say jjk is starting to be somewhat repetitive I think holds some weight 2 it
I think people have become jaded from the Kashimo and Higuruma sections of the four sections you mentioned. The former was the foundation for the “repetitive” cycle that fans are complaining about, and the latter made fans feel like Sukuna has too much plot armor for any of these fights to mean anything.
Kashimo’s fight was too short given how his entire character revolved around his fight with Sukuna and getting to show off his scientifically overpowered cursed technique.
Higuruma’s sacrifice amounted to nothing because of a cursed tool that was never shown to be an actual threat to any character prior to its removal. Higuruma not knowing how cursed tools would play into his domain (despite Maki and Yuta having armories of cursed tools for Higuruma to experiment with) felt like forced stupidity to justify Sukuna not getting exorcised, in the same vein as Gege writing Yuji not telling Gojo about Sukuna’s barrier-less domain
Solo Leveling is getting repetitive. Enter dungeon, gain xp from killing weak monsters, encounter strong boss, barely make it out alive. Rinse and repeat.
Actually he doesnt even go to dungeons much after awhile. It ended up being facing s rank hunters or facing monarchs
Bro its lit said that Sukuna isnt even trying. Yes each fight are different in how they look but there lit the same. Cool character introduction, cool reveal/ moment only for them to get murked. Its getting repetitive because its whos gonna fight sukuna every week. gege has sukuna not even trying yes people are frustrated and will drop it because theres no sight to the end. If it was each fight slowling down sukuna and sukuna taking massive damage it would be hype. but hes not and thats the problem, not the new fighter approach, but because sukuna isnt taking massive damage and isnt slowing down
You’re so shameless with your examples from other series.
With One Piece, between chapters 1000 to 1049 we got: Jinbe vs WhosWho, Kidd and Law vs Big Mom, Zoro vs King, Yamato vs Kaido, Sanji vs Queen, Robin vs Black Maria, Killer vs Hawkins and various other fights. It wasn’t one thing for the MAJORITY of that time.
Likewise, Dragon Ball mixed it up with the Freeza and Boo fights NARRATIVELY, Boo went through various transformations which advanced the plot and served as markers in the fights. Goku transformed vs Freeza making the fight completely different in the second half. There is no such thing with Sukuna. It’s the same shit every chapter for months on end.
Madara was not the main enemy when he was introduced. It was Obito. Madara went like 5+ chapters without doing anything so when he did come back and it didn’t feel old.
Ye I was thinking the same thing as well most of the thing you described helped the plot narratively, most of the deaths and “fights” have been for naught and just end characters development so early that we ask, why were they introduced…..?
7:10
Kashimo didn’t really force sakuna into heian era , GoJo did u need to add proper context why was sakuna forced to do it ? Because of GoJo fight
Even then that sakuna showed relative to kashimo in Amber former , at point blank range sakuna dodge a blast
The only reason sakuna really transformed was cause his rct was low and he couldn’t fill heal so he basically just pooped a senzu bean
So that statement u made however I get what your implying it’s not 100% correct
7:30 the reason sakuna is questioning himself isn’t because of higuruma and yuji it’s because he’s feeling down because he just had a crazy fight with GoJo that pushed him to his limits and in killing someone who had talent like GoJo
Sakuan started to question himself about satisfaction and this is exactly what GoJo felt in his fight so I think that sakuan was trying to find something to give him a challenge while he’s bored and waiting to die and that challenge is for him to break yuji Will who’s unbreakable
All I'm waiting for is the Hakari vs Sukuna dance battle.
Let me explain it as simply as I can try. The reason a lot of us are feeling it’s too repetitive is because these are all insanely quick fights where a new fighter pulls up to challenge sukuna, have a plan to give themselves the upper hand, it seemingly work only for sukuna to have a counter or get lucky, kill/incapacitate them and repeat. The reason we didn’t feel this way about madara is because none of his interactions were insanely quick. He fought the alliance, then the kage, followed by the tailed beast, previous hokage, obito, might guy and team 7. All of those battle felt extremely different from one to another. Madara continuously was showing us different feats putting on a new insane display every fight evolving at a rapid rate as well as having other sub plots on the side involving other characters
Yep.
Just say they're all dopamine addicted.
it like marada pull up in 5 kage with susano.
problem cast so weak that sukuna is hella holding back. cast need huge power up or ass pull like marada getting stab in back.
By his own creation kishimoto had to link zetsu to kaguya just to get rid of madara , madara and aizen are examples they had to seal aizen because he got so strong he became immortal and madara on the other hand broke out of two powerful sealing jutsu twice with gaara and sai's so they had to make his own will betray him just for the good guys to win , think about it they had to introduce even more powerful villains just to not make aizen and madara be the main focus anymore lol
False why would kishimoto use a stronger antagonist to get rid of madara if he tought that he was too strong @@Twix44
I don’t think the issue people have is exactly that he’s beating everyone it’s more so that it doesn’t amount to anything, there’s not anything new, many anime’s have this cycle process where one person gets defeated the other shows up either loses or get a new form to win.
But sukuna cycle doesn’t have anything new or anything like this, & he cemented many times that he is damaged by the gojo fight yet he’s still able to take a multitude of life threatening attacks even having his soul shake but still repeats that he’s damage. Then we’re expected to believe he’s also not taking it serious so any damage he’s taking is amounting to not much of anything. So then the cycle repeats & no one rlly is doing much. & sukuna rlly isn’t doing anything outstanding either. It could all be a big plot point later in the arc but rn it’s like ok.
& when his foes show something new it doesn’t amount to nothing like how ichigo bankai got immediately destroyed. Yuta had his domain shi gone now. The most interesting fight was yuta & yuji vs sukuna people who we know should give him a longer & tougher fight which they did & it could’ve taken a different route why maki only pull up after yuta & yuji is down. Instead of doing a 3v1. The only fights sukuna had real character & development was against kashimo & gojo ofc tho ant nobody asking for that all that time but for a week-week release switch it up or bring my goat gojo back 💯
This is a problem with the manga community in general but when it's animated there's probably gonna be less complaints.
bro its basically a parody of itself after Gojo died. Like Kusakabe's fight was just funny because it felt so much that Gege was just taking the p out the character and situation. Similarly, Maki's fight was actually pointless. Outside of her sneak attack strike, she did nothing except say what every other character has said since jumping in, "oh, i gotta end this fight" then dies immediately after.
Long? No. Repetitive? Absolutely yes. It’s literally someone get hyped up to fight Sukuna, they arrive, fight Sukuna and last like 2 chapters, he congratulates them, then someone else shows and is hyped up and waiting a month ain’t helping either. We were making progress with Yuta and Yuji, but now it’s suddenly gone out the window seeing as they failed. Not your best my man.
Great video!
When people say the fights are repetitive I don't think they mean they are exactly the same ,it's repetitive for me at least in the sense that they keep hyping up these new fighters then let sukuna defeat them so easily within a chapter or 2, if u keep doing this it diminish the previous hype they had because they get defeat so easily , at least I think it has grown stale in that aspect not in the choreographic aspect
I don't mind if the fight is long, what I do mind is how the fight is approached. Gojo vs Sukuna, incredible 10/10, I wouldn't of minded if it was longer assuming it'll be a constant back and forth. However, Sukuna vs everyone is what I like to say "constantly running into a brick wall". It's the same cycle over and over, new character enters the fight, Sukuna finishes them off, next character comes in, repeat. That's the repetitiveness everyone is talking about, the fact it's been the same formula for months just makes it tiring to read and you just want it to end already. It wasn't like Gojo vs Sukuna, where it was completely unpredictable, every chapter both of them try to out do the other, that level of enjoyment is gone. Then the infamous statement of Sukuna holding back this whole time, just made it worse, which only tells me this fight won't end anytime soon. Unless this cycle ends, more people will get tired of this.
Miguel can show his use new technique and yuji gonna get more powerful after this too
So glad im not the only one who thinks this.
Me too, but we are like outnumber by maybe over a million different dumbasses so it doesn't even matter. We are like 3 of 5 different people who actually know what's going on.
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@Six-bw3ir true some people thinks when u criticized a specific thing within a series they think ur just hating which is not true it's just constructive criticism
@@Twix44 I agree with both of you yeah
I think u miss the old point it not because the fight is long it because it’s getting to the point where if sukuna lost it is bs or even if our main character get a power up it going to be look at has plot armor
You showing other anime with longer lasting fights that didn't get the flask jjk has gotten now only further shows the lackluster writing and execution from Gege in this fight. The Gojo fight was good (though it was imo stupid of Gege to make Gojo say he was gonna lose even if Sukuna didn't have Mahoraga vuz that did not make sense). Still good fight. Then the "Sukuna Cycle" starts, and the things we get from the following fights really isn't all that interesting. Especially when the outcome becomes the same. Yuji and Yuta did great damage but you can argue that is undermined when it is said that Sukuna wasn't even going all out yet. The Higurama fight had potential to be interesting cause of his domain but I think the cursed object confiscation asspull turned ppl off on that fight. Maki is cool and all but even she just kind of gets slapped away. And now Miguel, "the man who fought Gojo on equal footing", comes. I like Miguel, but he did not fight Gojo on equal footing lmao. Some of the fights are not even that long and still manage to feel like a drag.
The execution is not that good imo, I think the nonsensical asspulls might also affect opinions on the fights. Other mentioned anime either made it a lot more interesting or had actually interesting things come out of those fights. I've already grown uninterested in the new chapters, and I read the manga not too long ago when half of these Sukuna Cycle fights were already over, so I didn't even have to go through it on a weekly basis and I already became uninterested. It's really not rocket science or that deep to understand why people are complaining.
And the more frustrating thing to me personally is how Gege decided to get rid of Kenjaku. Mans could've had him as a wrench in the whole story, could've made him turn on Sukuna and tru to kill both him and Gojo, could've maybe taken over Gojo/Sukuna, could've been the actual final villan, etc. Instead he got offed like some fodder.
gotta say, when it comes to having a fight last over multiple chapters Yoshihiro Tagashi can tell you one. The Palace invasion (hxh) has like 10-15 episodes (each 20min) devotet to a GRAND Total of 30 min in the Story. Meaning that the 200+ min spend in the show really just illustrate half a god damn hour in the show
Love your videos, seriously, you're of my favourites right now with the way you cover pretty much all of my interests with great depth and superb analytical skill
This is why you don't kill kenjaku earlier he has tons of story and dark secrets to tell, atleast some readers not get tired of non stop sukuna fights or do some heian era backstory.
A character is hyped and glazed to the point being compared to Gojo -> the character barely last the quart of a chapter before getting whooped -> Sukuna is actually holding hella back since the beginning -> A new character comes at the end on a cliffhanger -> Everyone even the narrator are asking themselves if they have a chance ( while we all know they don’t ) -> repeat the cycle
That’s literally how it felt to me and the worst thing is that I never had to wait like others did because I picked up only very recently with the manga. Sukuna literally feels like Madara but even worse and this is what worries me the most. I don’t expect him to win ( and you guys shouldn’t do either ), cause even if the characters are dropping like flies jjk is still a shounen ( you can create a story as convoluted and complicated as you want the result will still be the same villains just don’t win ). Gege literally played against himself by making Gojo glazing Sukuna that much before dying and Uraume saying that he was barely trying, and now he has to pay the consequences of it.
I honestly dont expect anything else when concerning the strongest sorcerer to have ever lived.
He was the strongest for a reason, but i believe in Gege's judgement. Hes gonna cook bu the time this is all over
that's why csm is much better
The current way JJK is heading feels pretty ok. It's mostly what I expected. Miguel is an exception. Wtf is he doing here😂
I think I've probably got more experience waiting for chapters and following a manga to its end than a lot of other people, so I can empathize with how slow and dragged it feels. But I want anyone who thinks this has been to long to go back and read from the start of Gojo vs Sukuna to now. I can almost guarantee that you will fly through all the chapters.
(Editor's note) Can't wait until my Glorios King Yuji slams the King of Frauds on his neck. I have the scans of Yuji spitting in that bums face. We'll be recording his L live. Stay blessed🙏
“Editors note” bro thinks he’s Gege Akutami 😭😭
@@user_Z- Maybe I am🗿
Nvm. Just realized I couldn't be. I just insulted Sukuna and praised Yuji. Both being impossible for Gege
I’m honestly so bored of JJK right now. The only actual (real) stuff is the STUPID manga that just KILLS PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AND IM SO SICK OF IT
I think it's just that new gen fans are impatient
I think the main thing that makes it an issues is it's "guy shows up, gets no diffed by Sukuna, repeat x times". The length doesn't matter, it's the actual flow of the fights
If JJK does end within the next 30 chapters then we need so more development for the side characters for it to be satisfying. Idk if that would be through a short spinoff series or if the anime adds scenes to flesh them out but some of the side characters are criminally wasyed
I dont even need to read the spoilers to know sukuna won and it was with a world cutting slash.
The slowness isn’t the issue it’s the rehashed formula
WOW! Sukuna is going to loose! oh he didn't,
OMG! Sukuna is going to loose again! oh he didn't
WTF! Sukuna is goint to loose again!! oh he didn't
rinse and repeat till the writer decides to end it.
i just hope sakuna doesn't get blacked zetsued, that would the worst pay off
I noticed problems with JJK from the first episode and dropped it when instead of main 3-4 characters we were watching a fight within 2 side characters ( panda and some robot or something) and then out of blue we were being given some backstory on them..I mean..why? why should we care about them?...backstories are so forced in JJK....
Depending on how Gege handles it, Sukuna could become the next Madara (Not in a good way either). Bro was so cracked Kishimoto had to write him out of the story
but I trust in Gege, let him cook 🗣‼️
I AGREE SM, people literally can’t read
I think after Miguel everyone else will die people like todo choso Mei Mei and inumaki and Kamo while trying to jump Sukun yuji will fight and beat sukuna for hakari and urahame both of them die
The series needs to slow down and actually build stuff up again. No one cares if they bring in a new character, because they have zero purpose or backstory and will likely die very soon. Shibuya felt good (for most people) because there was build-up on both the protagonist and antagonist side. Sure they handled Nobura poorly (and Imo the protagonists during that arc were just super incompetent and brain-dead), but it still had great payoff like Yuji vs Mahito and Gojo being sealed.
Also the series has been relying way too much on asspulls. Sukuna makes way too many asspull binding vows to get out of sticky situations. Especially how he defeated Gojo made no sense. Meanwhile we have Miwa never able to wield a sword again in exchange of a weak ass slash that did nothing. Binding Vows have never really been properly contextualized. It went from the logical 80% 120% Nanami vow to world slash for free.
Just instantly, the obvious fact that far too many younger people nowadays have the attention span of a fruit fly invalidates a significant portion of the "critiques", as they simply don't have the patience to wait out anything longer than a hummingbird's singular wing-beat. So yea, right off the bat, a lot of the complaints do come from a place of said readers simply not being equipped to even appreciate a longer-running event like the final grand battle of a series.
On the side of the complaints having some legitimacy to them, JJK's power system is simply too simplistic and hand-to-hand/melee focused in a lot of cases that the kind of over-the-top spectacle or insane creativity that other series often wow the viewers with simply isn't there, and you can only see Sukuna punch the protagonists' guts out so many times before it gets repetitive and dull. Then we also have to consider that with Gege blowing up the biggest fireworks with Sukuna and Gojo's one-on-one right off the bat, the rest of the fight will inevitably feel like just us looking at the fizzling out sparks left over following the big payoff, and no amount of excessive animation on the anime side of things can truly make up for that. And that's not even touching on the fact that Sukuna apparently still having more aces up his non-existent sleeves makes it impossible for any scenario where he loses to be satisfying, as his potential defeat would always be the result of his own cockiness and holding back more than any effort on the heroes' part, and in what reality would that ever be satisfying... It's feeling more and more like we're headed for a tragic, pointless ending of the bad guys winning and nothing ultimately mattering.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'm reserving final judgement until JJK reaches its conclusion; maybe Gege will cook up the most insanely satisfying ending possible, but frankly, my hopes aren't supremely high. We will see what transpires.
it's repetitive.... let's be honest jjk is trash without good animation...
I didnt watch the vid yet but from what i think this type of cycle can be made for nearly everything if you ignore nearly every plot line of the show
At least for how long the Frieza fights were, it stopped pulling the "And wait! There's more!" card once Frieza got to his final form and desperately pulled out all the stops when he was getting beat up. Sukuna is still pulling that "Ah the Heian era had something just like this" card like its no issue.
It's just too much dialog and exposition.
I think the issue is starting the final fight with the 3 people people were most excited about. Now your audience is either no longer interested or is just hate reading to see what the author pulls out his ass.
I personally believe that the Sukuna fight is such an interest fight not because of its criticism but of the memes behind it. Its like the community cooks up any type of excuse and hypothesis to beat sukuna in the most absurd of ways which I find extremely amusing. Such a publicized fight such as this is rare sometimes. It makes me want to know more on what would happen next.
Nah, Id win
Mfs just hating on the best newgen like do we really think the strongest sorcerer is gonna get taken out in less then 30 chapters like it’s common sense
Like literally the sorcerers are making progress with each and every fight and almost won if it weren’t for megumi
Hard disagree. The only time they were making progress was with gojo and yuta and yuji. Maki stab isn't really slowing him down. Higuruma, kusakabe, and kashimo did nothing and while I'm fine with kusakabe doing nothing since he's not eve special grade I can't excuse the same for kashimo. His whole thing was fighting sukuna and we saw him use his ct a few times and do nothing. The work they were putting in also feels really weak when u have uraume saying things like "he's still hasn't gone all out "
this series is trash anyways
manga sales dont reflect that, but i respect the opinion
manga sales from girls thinking gojo is hot@@Am-fp7pn
still mid@@Am-fp7pn
manga sales mean nothing@@Am-fp7pn
just more people disappointed with mediocre manga@@Am-fp7pn
It’s kinda funny though ngl
Yeah
"Who is the strongest n word in jujutsu?" flashback.
What is the manga animation playing in the background?
They’re official manga animations posted by the Shonen jump RUclips channel
Lonk you the goat fr
Sukuna would’ve been dead about a couple dozen chapters ago if everyone just jumped him like in the good old days instead of just taking turns being turned into his punching bags.
Nanami’s blackflash record doesn’t hold a candle to Gege’s consecutive Sukuna glazing technique.
My goat lonk defending the peak🙏
Cope
How does Geges meat taste in your mouth 💀
As someone who doesn't get hyper invested in every walk-on in JJK, and primarily is invested in the main characters, there's no world where it isn't Yuji (potentially with the assistance of Yuta or Megumi) that ultimately defeats Sukuna. As a result of understanding that will show how many of the encounters is just the story spinning its wheels. To someone like me Kusakabe was never going to defeat him, so I'm basically reading through a couple of weeks of fillers because his defeat, as is Miguel's, is a foregone conclusion. You can use in universe logic to justify why there are filler fights (oh we need to burn through Sukuna's defenses! Oh he hit a black flash! ) but at the end of the day they are just filler fights.
Like the tempo of the fight was at its best when Maki showed up, I believe that her, Yuta and Yuji could've closed off the battle there and I personally would've been satisfied...but either due to editor mandates or Gege's own want to show what every character is capable of, I'm faced with characters who's names I forget after they're off screen fighting Sukuna and I just don't understand why.
All the characters who fought Frieza mattered to the story at that time...if Tien, Popo or someone else on the same narrative level as Kusakabe showed up before Goku went super Saiyan just to make the fight on Namek longer I would've hated that too.