The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity. THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN: In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that. Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him! You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you. Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
@@kelleymcfadden9675 I don’t get sacrifice of something ELSE like a innocent lamb who don’t know WTF it’s head is being hacked off 😢 when it’s the SINNER (Oneself) who should sacrifice an ARM, LEG or something or ALL of THEMSELVES if anything! 😢
the good thing about religious apologetics is that one can invent any explaination to overcome whatever criticism or inconsistency or any nonsense in general.
You could replace the word "religious" with anything and it would hold true. "Apologetics" of any theory, thought, ideology, etc, by the very definition of being an "apologetic", will always "invent" ways out of any contradictions they create. You see it in politics, science, and theology (including atheism) all the time. And yes, atheism is itself a religion. It is a religion of nothing, with members of this way of thinking every bit as zealous as those who believe in a particular religion. It is just as difficult to explain the concept of no Creator, that everything just "is because it is", as it is difficult to explain an omnipotent Creator. Neither can be explained without some sort of pitfalls. The truth is we don't know and can't know.
We are all trying to get closer to truth and in doing so we argue for certain truths whether we are theists or atheists. As the Buddhist says, we are always searching and never quite finding.
@@hlmco it’s called rationalization. You can bet your bottom dollar none of these professional theists came to their beliefs independently of their upbringing.
This lady in the very beginning of this video, Eleanor, blew my mind! But at the same time made so much sense and personally I have conceived such a theory myself. To hear someone else finally voice that same thesis is like, WOW! Of course I think she’s brilliant. Only we exist in linear time, but in God’ perspective and reality there exist the now presence with what we would call past and future just being branches of a tree that’s constantly extending out, but the actual tree trunk itself remaining non changing, static. God, being unchanging can sees those branches at all intervals of its growth and each interval is accessible and remains there for him. As it would be for us to see and access any branch of a tree no matter how much that tree grows.
It was a very odd hypothesis not really supported by anything. If anything there is no such thing as a now, and there may not even be a singular instant of any measurable time. At the Planck time (hypothetical but QM is incredibly accurate and predicts it) time loses meaning in fuzzy uncertainty below it's threshold. What she had to say was really just a slightly more salient hypothesizing than what Deepak Chopra does on the backs of legitimate science. The hubris of some of these theologians is sometimes comical.
It sounded either like a complete and meaningless word salad, or just God standing outside time and ‘observing’ (whatever that means in this context of non-time) a block universe where everything that had happened/is happening/will happen is present. Not very enlightening or original either way.
I always imagine a beautiful neon glowing tree in black darkness and God being the pruner. What you just explained is matching my own thoughts and my ideas are only from the Bible. I think he’s revealed it to his chosen.
It is like having a great mountain rising out of the plains. Well, everywhere you look at the mountain, it looks slightly different, depending on where you are looking. If you are up close, if you are far away, if you are to the north, the south, the east or the west-it all looks different, you see. But it is the same mountain. It has not changed with your perspective. You may debate with others about the appearance of the mountain. You are looking from the north and they are looking from the south. Oh, the mountain looks so very different. You argue about its features and its manifestations. To someone up close, it is huge and monumental. To someone at a distance, it is just something out on the horizon. The experience is different. The perspectives are different. But the mountain has not changed. It has not adapted itself to people’s perspective or people’s position around it. ~Marshall Vian Summers
Even in the Bible, God gave people choices with ultimate results for either decision. Using the word " If ". This implies multiple realities depending on the individual's path, however, we can only experience the path we choose in the moment of now. What is amazing is that God can take our prayers from "now" and use the information to change our future.
"us" being you, and which specific identifiable immediate interlocutor? There is very little point in using words unless they have some matching or corresponding experience, or are symbols of something that has actually been experienced, so it is meaningless to speak of "God's eternity" when there cannot possibly be any matching or corresponding experiences for either God or eternity- both are no more than vague generalisations or unfocused photographs or just blurs
Extremely true. I was thinking about it. Even our theories of physics are incomplete currently. May be when we have discovered a theory of everything, when the technologies would be advanced enough to gaze into the exact moments or couple of hundred years before the Genesis of this universe and when we have quantum computing maybe then we can answer this question
and maybe the concept of time, space, eternity and even god itself are true from the begining and after time to time have been perfected by religion . who knows..
Write in sequence events that happened to you in One hour. Then put those on piece of paper at random. Then imagine those not happening but are just existing. That's God outside of time
Assuming God has perfect, total knowledge of everything, that means God understands completely what it's like to be me, Robert Kuhn, my cat, or an insect on my wall. That means that God actually has to EXPERIENCE the totallity of my life, Robert Kuhn's life, my cat's life, and the life of an insect on my wall. Therefore, what we each are part of God's infinite consciousness because we are actually God living our limited life in the physical universe. This also means that God has CHOSEN to forget who he is when he lives each of our live's. There's no other way for God to have perfect, total understanding of who each of us are. Furthermore, it means God lives WITHIN time as each of us, as well as eternally outside of time as we know it. Because of this chain of reasoning, I've come to the same conclusion as the Nobel prize winning physicist Erwin Schrodinger: there is only ONE consciousness having an infinity of experiences.
I’m unclear how you reason that God has chosen to forget who he is when he lives each of our lives. The concept of superposition in quantum physics says that particles like electrons, photons and atoms can exist in multiple states simultaneously, so it may be that God can still remember who he is while he lives our lives as well.
One formulation I have read from some religious thinkers of the past is that the universe has "always been" emanating from God. There wasn't a time when it didn't exist at all. But what we experience as different points in time as we move through it, are all present to God.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity. THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN: In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that. Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him! You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you. Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
She is a smart Lady. I liked it how she "stopped time" by stretching it out infinitely. In physics there is a smallest unit of time - for us not for god - but if it would not be there indeed one could divide time instances infinitely until everything stops. And that god can understand things that are simpler than himself (linear) time but we can't understand more complex forms of time, makes sense. For example we can understand a 3 D form and a 2 D form but not a 5 D form. But that does not mean that someone who has a 5 D form can't understand what for example a quube is.
Good show ... gets the brain pondering on issues most ask about but cannot grasp the significance of such questions and the implications of answers that may arise i still contend that God is not of our reality but outside of it ... or how else could he create it if our reality is creating him? or a part of him? our reality consists of time, space and energy which from our perpective are infinite But could be finite as per Gods creation in math ironically we have 3 infinities too you can count forever, subtract forever and 0 is infinite and 0 is nothing with reference to time ... that number line implies "now" could very well be infinite.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity. THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN: In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that. Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him! You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you. Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
@@kelleymcfadden9675i know all of your response ... however God gave us minds of enquiry I have not brought God into question but rather where he is in terms of reality or realms ... im of the belief he is outside of our reality and he created our reality
@@scottlouissmith2382And there is value in thinking about it and discussing it. Without reflecting on the topic, we cannot even know what we don't know.
@@scottlouissmith2382 Well yes and no. I assumed you meant it is not worth talking about since nobody knows. My point is that it is worth talking even if we don't know and never get an answer... Wasn't trying to be argumentative!
Isaiah 55:8-9 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. ◄ 1 Corinthians 3:19 ► For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness";
It is such a logical contradiction to say that "Time Began". By definition, without time there can be no change like a "creation of the universe" or a "universe coming into being". Since we see change, it appears that there is this thing we call time. To me, being able to notice change indicates that time never started and that it was always there. I think we have an understanding of time because our mind create a model of it as a way to understand it.
Time in our reality can have a beginning ... if you take away from eternity ... eternity remains ... and if you take more you still left with eternity and if you eternally keep taking more you still have eternity to take from ... so the piont you start taking is the begining to a never ending increment time is eternal from our perspective ...at least you can agree on that
Is not the simple reality that when God's Son came into the world He entered our time world and was here for 33 years of that time world that we live in . Jesus Christ experienced all the realities that relate to the vicissitudes of time even to death on a cross where His suffering must, ' at times' felt like an eternity.. I Love you Lord and I lift up my voice to worship you Oh my soul rejoice. Take joy my King at what you hear, let it be a sweet sweet sound in your ear. Praise God and bless His Holy city of Jerusalem. Amen.
I've seen multiple people on this show claim that if the universe is infinite then there are infinite people just like us doing different things and making different choices. most of the guests on this show sound smart but that is such a childish assumption. just because there is infinite space and galaxies and planets that does not mean there is another person like me. that doesn't even mean life exists anywhere else in the infinite universe. why are such serious people just assuming infinite space means nothing is unique?
The one that created physicality was deep in thought, phisical matter is the fruit of that thinking. It cannot be named the amount and duration of that thinking but it can be understood to be beyond our understanding. When it thought about phisical matter it thought hard. Manifesting it all while outside of what we can call time.
When the light of God enters into creation it forms an arc. It is when the lesser light crosses itself that we begin to mark time. In the end, what we witness when we see a black hole is the unwinding of time or creation collapsing unto itself. Throughout this process the will of God is accomplished through the mystery of gravity. Gravity is transformative from time to timelessness and is what enjoins science and human spirituality. God's covenant, manifest in mankind, leads us out of time into timelessness. He was born of the spirit impervious to time.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity. THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN: In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else. John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that. Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. 6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him! You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you. Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
I humbly see it this way, we experience time differently than God would, even in this universe we can experience time differently (theoretically) depending on speed and gravity. Working off the analogy that time is a river i would add that we are on rafts that go only Downstream , we can never go back or look beyond the bends upstream but God can see the entire river all at once as from afar and could enter it at the beginning middle or end which for Christians would be the incarnation, ie Jesus jumping in the river at a given point, and is subject to time, whereas those on the rafts (us) only flow down stream. He can enter time or remain outside of it.
in my opinion.. we live in different dimension with god. for example.. we live in 3d and he live beyond it.. so theoretically at flow of time stream like past, present and future its not even relevant.. moreover it could be the time itself has another explanation beyond past, present and future.. who knows
when you use the word "we" you seek to convey or point to yourself, and which specific identifiable immediate interlocutor? Perhaps you can help me with this: does "we" ever have a headache, and if so how do you know that "we has a headache". Given that time is merely a cognate or synonym for the impression of change, how do you know that other creatures broadly similar to yourself experience change or one of its cognates and synonyms in a different way from the way in which you experience it? - How do you go about establishing that, or discovering it is the case or true?- on what direcct immediate personal do you base the other's experience of whatever you mean by time, or change or whatever differently from you? - How do you go about discovering that?- can you experience what they experience as they experience it? It is demonstrably impossible for one man to experience one another man experiences, for were otherwise, when one man has a headache all men would have headaches, and they simply don't - therefore they do not and cannot experience what the other experiences, for if it were otherwise they would experience what the other experiences and they simply don't. Do you suppose all men to be identical, or the generality of men homogenous? - What is your evidential basis for that if that is your supposition?
The dual particle/wave property of matter serves as an aid to understanding God by analogy. God is both a principle (timeless, mental) and a person ( capable of interacting in real time).
No wonder why God’s name is “I am” or in other meanings: to exist, to be, to call forth, to bring about. The one who designs. The tree of life grower, the pruner, the gardener who lives in the eternal now.
I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars. I gaze at the night sky and realize: I am the stars gazing back at me. I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity. I now enter a state of consciousness that knows the oneness of all. Now I am the diamond - not any one facet. I am the diamond - the oneness of all. I am no longer the fragmented mind of a man. I am now Eternity observing my SELF - one of the denizens of Eternity's dream. But it is not a switch of perspective. It is what it is. The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream. And the process repeats in a timeless existence. Like a mirror within a mirror within another. I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity. I am not my SELF anymore but only the oneness of all. But nothing changes in Eternity. There never is a change of perspective. It is what it is. There still is my SELF and Eternity, The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream. I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
TIME IS DEPENDING ON GOD, BECAUSE GOD IS TIME/LIFE FOR HIMSELF, GOD IS THE SPACE/SOUL/SPIRIT FOR TIME TO EXIST IN HIM, GOD IS THE ETERNITY. SO ETERNITY =GOD =LIFE =TIME, & HE IS JESUS/YESHUA/YHWH, ALWAYS THE SAME, YESTERDAY & TODAY & FOREVER, ALPHA&OMEGA AMEN! 😊🙏
Time and universe is within God. God is formless, timeless but, can take any form at any time. All it needs is sincere prayer. That's how the words if Saints are word of God.
So it is a special pleading fallacy that you have with no proof. Timeless means that it simply does not exist in reality and you have a logical fallacy when you are suggesting that you know all about it.
Excellent interview with Eleonore Stump ! I see God as having four dimensional consciousness. Revelation 22:13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End".
@Stefano Portoghesi...no one can deny space, time and energy are infinite in our universe so it cannot be a construct of peoples wishful thinking .... eternity is REAL
It is easy to say something such as out of time but the problem is how would you describe or go around with such thing. When we talked of something it is not enought that we say something about but we should expound it in a way that we totally describe it to the easy understanstanding of everybody.
It is deep. I like her explanation very much. I understand it, but I know also that the language she has to use is insufficient to fully convey the "Reality." I think that is what philosophy is in very large part---the search for a language that is sufficient to fully convey Reality. I do not think we will ever reach such a point. Mr. Kuhn clearly wants to believe, but his critical side holds him back. This is how I was for my entire life. However, as a senior now, I look back upon a lifetime on this earth, and pretty much everything and everyone I believed in has failed me. Science and materialism are very limited. They cannot explain the whole of reality, and there are plenty of other considerations that now make me believe there is something much greater than us whether we call that something "God" or "Source" or "the ground of all being" or anything else. Mr. Kuhn, for his own sake, is going to have to let go and adopt faith, and why not do? He has nothing to lose.
The present is eternal, has always existed, will always exist, is everywhere and cannot be escaped from, even by way 'death'. We are immortal, with or without the physical vehicle.
God is here right in front of you in another dimension. You can not see it, but you will on your death.Bed when your vibration will raise.That is when you will see the world's
Its like a bicycle wheel. When you are in the hub, you are wit part of god in the now. When you are in the tyre, you are part of god in time. Every event in time is connected to the hub. To the hub time does not flow. When you walk the tyre of time, the now passes by, out of your awareness. You are hiking a dream.
I wonder why would anybody pay smart and imaginatively gifted people to speculate and hypothesize on stuffs that don't exist, won't exist or can't exist!
Quantum mechanics allows (predicts) infinite dimensions... Should we assume that the Cause of the laws of physics that allow infinite dimensions is inferior? Or could God's Eternity consist of infinite dimensions?
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Sure. We just have to make sure that we are not seeking the truth as we would like it to be...In other words, we have to remove our biases when seeking truth...
If time is integral to energy, then in our physical universe, all would stand still without the passing of time. Consider Einstein's theory of relativity that energy has time as a component of the speed of light.
Block universe is real, we can see stars on a night sky and sun during the day, no arguing about that. It's just what are we talking about, picture is not real, those lights are just waves of electromagnetic force radiation, permeating entire universe. Because matter is made from that luminous stuff, it's soaked with light, but is not light. Stuff is energy, light is just a mirage, an infinite reflections of energy bouncing all over the void. And it does that because waves intersect and interfere, they stretch with a distance and do other weird things, like every dot contain an information about whole object and such. Waves hit our eye cone, those get excited and reflect light in two ways, one part radiate in environment as a sphere of energy potential, but part of it get modulated, enhanced and send directly into our brain. Brain doesn't see photons but dots appear where conic oscillations interfere, like trowing bunch of rocks in a pond of water. We can never see reality, only what was visible from a certain point in space and time and in range our eyes can detect. So we exist in intimate contact with reality, coming to us in discrete packets of potentials, everything else is a fluid holographic projection filling all the void. Therefore it's physically possible God could see everything that happened as a 4D movie, except dots of stuff actual reality is made of, since they didn't emit any radiation of the present moment before it could occur. And let's suppose our thoughts also radiate energy and he can see those too, but can't know what i'll imagine next before i do. But he can see picture from other objects past coming to our present space, except that doesn't mean those physical manifestations will have any influence on our reality. Some might, everything else is just a cosmic background, a stage of some sort. Smoke and mirrors. But what is eternal in this natural play, we know everything with mass must decay and transmute or became light. Photons will remain forever, since they can't experience any internal change. Electrons might, they have mass, but no size somehow, not sure what electricity actually is. Than there are force particles, weird and strange things inside parts of atom, some suppose to come from beginning of the universe and obviously still doing fine, there's much going on without end in sight. We are doomed, our body is made from mass, forget about it. Same goes for planet and also for our sun, all atoms, goodby sunshine. Some things will exist forever, this is a weird fact, so eternity is possible after all or something is wrong with our physics, God seems to be doing just fine. Why God at all than, something is hidden in an eternal cosmic picture, something primal and a self perpetuating force, making movie come alive in our mind.
Whom is the block universe real to? Plus, it doesn't work on quantum level, so just like with quantum entanglement breaking the speed of light, Einstein was also wrong about the block universe...
Xspot box Just a friendly word of advice - if you write long posts it is best to break it into paragraphs with a line of space between each one. Especially on mobile devices, tablets etc. it is really hard to read walls of words. It is easy to lose your place and very difficult to find where you left off. Presumably, you took the time to write the post so you desire people to read it. I didn’t and don’t read posts that are so constructed because of the difficulty mentioned. Add space.
@@celeritasc9207 I know what you mean, been struggling with longer comments myself and i'm aware my opinion doesn't matter in all that crowd. This is a general philosophy, so it's expected from participants to elaborate their opinions up to certain extend. It's easier to understand ideas if you can follow person's line of reasoning, but it's not heavy stuff we talk about here and it's pointless to describe to many details. My ideas are kinda original, since i tend to speak from my own angle, as a post deist. Hope you don't mind to much, somehow i couldn't find myself in academia, ideology or mysticism, so i started my own religion :) But if you find the time and want to visualize things as i do, go ahead and read, my ideas are well thought of and structured, you shouldn't get bored or i'm just a bad global English writer, to lazy to learn another proper language.
"But God then became trapped, never able to revert to God's timeless,eternal state." I often feel trapped in this temporal life. The strange thing is... who can unlock the trap?
I think the concept of God being eternal is just too much for the Human mind to comprehend, and I do not believe that we can totally grasp the concept and frankly I don't believe anyone who says they do. It's not for us to know everything and some things cannot be comprehended with a finite mind.
Hi Sir, I have a simple question. Inside a factory at the end of the shift a supervisor and his co-worker are counting the produced objects, the objects are approximately the size of a tennis ball. It is their daily routine,the worker counts the objects as he takes it from the production lot and puts it inside a bag. The role of the supervisor is to keep watch so that there is no mistake while counting. One fine day, before starting the counting process, the supervisor looks at the lot and writes down some random three digit number as quantity of the produced items, in short he assumes that the actual quantity would probably match with that number. Now the question is what are the chances of that actual quantity matching exactly with that random number?
Intuitively it seems impossible for there to be an infinite past because if there is an infinite past how would we ever have reached the present? It just seems obvious that time needs a beginning. I can easily conceive of an infinite future, but not an infinite past.
why use the word "infinite" where you have no experience of the infinite - which can only be some vague woolly idea with no corresponding experience that is not no more than a vague woolly idea? Do you notice how men use words and simply assume that they have the meaning of those words or some corresponding experience? - In plain language it is as if they say to themselves I have the word, therefore I must know what it means or how I understand it it", but if you actually ask them what the word means to them or conveys to them, they have no idea; it is as if words obscure rather than reveal- they act as mere proxies for something else, the nearest analogy being a pectoral photograph or painting of a piece of bread; it looks like a piece of bread but it is not in the sense that you cannot eat it as if it were bread, and the same goes for words; why bother with the meaning or import of a word if you have the word and never need to trouble yourself with what it means?
That is exactly what Robert is doing, to be more precise this is the second best way to determine the truth about God's true nature....Since God refuses proposal for direct interview he obviously want us to conclude he is evil or doesn't exist. Why would Good God want us to be fooled by such idiotic contradictory behaviour?
@N RJ Who cares about Earth...leave that to science, we are talking about the sense of life, that is philosophy...just in case you've never heard about that...
Eternity so far beyond one has to probably experience to inform, a reason why God's son came into the world as Jesus. Main concern is to get to eternity from this world, leaving explanation of eternity to Jesus.
I think you can push this question of a timeless God even further if what you mean by "God" is the wave function of the Universe. If the Universe has zero energy and a spherical topology, then both space and time are emergent, not fundamental. The only fundamental thing is the quantum mechanical wave-function, in which case that's all "there is". The wave function is not part of spacetime - it gives rise to both space and time. That's what God really is. It's also the simplest explanation possible.
I love this idea, God felt in love to his creation, lose virginity and decide he will grow old and die together with us. Better than what was before creation, i guess. And it's not like universe will die any time soon, we have eternity to spend in a great company. God being what it is can make end of the universe meaningless, just return to his old primordial form or became something else, whatever. It's all because this things around us are not a stone, atoms are not geometrical solids, have nothing to do with anything we can possibly imagine and aren't small at all, since they radiate and absorb energy of entire universe, even bend space time itself. An ordinary piece of sand can't do that, it's just an invisible lump of matter, detached from reality, if we stick to definitions. But since sand is not a small piece of something, we can see it, it bend space time and react to influences, no matter how small it seems for creatures like us. It's a strange contradiction, we can see a small dusty particle, but we think it's not really important because it's so small. But why do we see it than, if it's so small, perhaps it have a giant battery and powerful lamp installed somewhere at it's tinny core. I'm telling ya, reality is not things inside other things, it's way more complicated, complex and powerful than that. And why do scientists say we can see back in time when looking at cosmos, not really, all we see is projection of light particles or waves, whatever. It just so happens that all we know about physical reality align at that maximum rate of change, but please mind we can detect only like 10% of everything that exist, according to same measurements and calculations. Why not travel faster than light, it doesn't make time go away, might brake fundamental laws of motion and energy maybe, but nothing really bad would happen, since every object in the universe depend of their elemental clock first. It's atoms, no matter where they are or in what state, they still signal their internal time space. Here's where true magic begins, asking physical questions about divine force of nature will always lead us to same conclusions, everything is possible, if you have fairy tale powers. Because this is the only way God can be all those contradictions and paradoxes, he must be made from magic dust and can do everything we see in cartoons. So we have two choices, stick with physics and numb down personal intuition or believe in fairy tales and keep the faith sisters and brothers.
@Mark Coleman Absolute power of nature, sounds like a weapon of universal destruction. It's interesting how modern technology is based on a work of a single man, Nikola Tesla believed we could use Earth's electric field to convey and store information from our conscious minds in that ether. He had visions of civilization based on electricity before people knew how to generate electric potential and route energy where is needed, but he couldn't know how exactly would that work and what do we mean by information today. Smart mobile phones are best example, 5 years ago average battery was around 2 amp hours, now it's 5 ah and modern circuits are times more efficient. This means smaller circuit perform more calculations and waste less energy to heath. Modern electronics can do much more work in less time and use less energy, because of that non intuitive rule human society is more efficient than ever before in history. But are we also happier with our lives, that's completely different question. I believe imagination is most precious substance in whole universe and nothing we do as species can't compensate for pure biological potential of a dreaming conscious brain. This means every single healthy human brain can be more powerful than all the rest of humanity combined, because it takes a lot of imagination to come up with something completely new, no other human in history has though about before. We live in Tesla age now and we can't even imagine different kind of technologies, because electricity is the only power we can control to push our machines, just like steam engines were before that and same as future ideas will change this world again, making all this industrial power that exist today obsolete over night.
So what about when a person dies and goes to heaven. There must be passing sequence of events in heaven for a person, so what time is that in relation to time in the universe?
Let me tell you something, God news.Everything about you.What you do what you think, what you want?What you don't want what you see what you hear.English everything
Eternity is beyond time; eternity is beyond space. Time and space both have a beginning. Eternity has no beginning and no end. Eternity has existed before time, exists simultaneously with time, and will exist beyond the end of time. Imagine time and space confined inside a porous tube, surrounded and permeated by eternity. God dwells in eternity, but God is not just transcendent (beyond reach), He is also immanent (within reach). God is simultaneously inside and outside the porous tube that contains space-time. But how does God do this? God does this by His Spirit, which encompasses, permeates, and interconnects all that exists, including time and space.
1 CORINTHIANS 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of this world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things that are mighty.
God is outside of Time, and our comprehension of Eternity is out of reach....it's incomprehensible because no human being can grasp infinity which we could define as everything realized at once...for us that is equal to nothingness since all realized at once is equal to nothing left to realize..once there is nothing new to come we are practically dead, isn't that so?
Of course he is always outside of everything how can we comprehend him ? Yet religion apparently does not only that but they personify him not only that but they grant him mythical characteristics
@@godofleverege1829 You are right...God should reveal himself to every human being instead of being hidden since the dawn of humanity...His hiddenness is just one aspect of the biggest philopsophical problem of all time : the problem of evil...
@@odiupickusclone-1526 Evil is a physical phenomena, it come from force of natural socialization we call gravity. Energy is not evil, potentials must always balance out, they have no choice, but gravity make things move in unpredictable paths, twirl, swirl, dance,... it's complicated.
@@odiupickusclone-1526 like every programmer should reveal himself to his avatars (bots) he programmed? he is not of the virtual world he created but in the real world and when the bot stares out the screen does he see the real world? God is outside our reality or how else could he create this reality?
This is a non question. Time is a characteristic of the geometry of the universe, if you somehow could be outside this region of space we call our universe, time would not be a thing. Also, even inside the universe, if you could move at speed of light, time would disappear to you.
Time is not real. Real things simply don't stop existing when conditions breach the capacity of their parameters. The construct of time is, however, very useful for human beings trying to understand the nature of reality. Such tedious arguments. We don't get to make up things and say that they are true, simply because they appeal to our incredibly limited perspectives.
Sometimes overthinking isn't helping. Sometimes admitting we don't know is a sign of wisdom.
tell that to all theologians
Alexander, Theologians produce theories not facts. Don’t we all do that?
not everything can be explained. sometimes the easiest way is to accept something that we dont know yet..
@@shannon7002 Do theologians agree with you?
@@shannon7002 Scientists produce theories too.
My brain is fried thank you very much.
Interesting 🧐 ! Free in what way towards to away From GoD 😵💫
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
@@kelleymcfadden9675 I don’t get sacrifice of something ELSE like a innocent lamb who don’t know WTF it’s head is being hacked off 😢 when it’s the SINNER (Oneself) who should sacrifice an ARM, LEG or something or ALL of THEMSELVES if anything! 😢
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Oh perfect. I clicked on the right video then
the good thing about religious apologetics is that one can invent any explaination to overcome whatever criticism or inconsistency or any nonsense in general.
Yup
@@rubiks6 that might as well be so with some!
You could replace the word "religious" with anything and it would hold true. "Apologetics" of any theory, thought, ideology, etc, by the very definition of being an "apologetic", will always "invent" ways out of any contradictions they create. You see it in politics, science, and theology (including atheism) all the time. And yes, atheism is itself a religion. It is a religion of nothing, with members of this way of thinking every bit as zealous as those who believe in a particular religion. It is just as difficult to explain the concept of no Creator, that everything just "is because it is", as it is difficult to explain an omnipotent Creator. Neither can be explained without some sort of pitfalls. The truth is we don't know and can't know.
We are all trying to get closer to truth and in doing so we argue for certain truths whether we are theists or atheists. As the Buddhist says, we are always searching and never quite finding.
Nice how large chunks of the episodes are shots of Robert in contemplation, but we don't even care because he has such a perfect philosopher's look.
You can't do a series like this if you don't have the philosophers look :) Greetings to you, friend from a different life.
The more they try to explain faith, the more it becomes in utterly nonsense.
@@hlmco it’s called rationalization. You can bet your bottom dollar none of these professional theists came to their beliefs independently of their upbringing.
I also wondered why they fill so many scenes with images from space, almost as though implying these were created things.
Not to mention the deep musky voice of an elder philosopher. At 37 I'm still working on mine!
This lady in the very beginning of this video, Eleanor, blew my mind! But at the same time made so much sense and personally I have conceived such a theory myself. To hear someone else finally voice that same thesis is like, WOW! Of course I think she’s brilliant. Only we exist in linear time, but in God’ perspective and reality there exist the now presence with what we would call past and future just being branches of a tree that’s constantly extending out, but the actual tree trunk itself remaining non changing, static. God, being unchanging can sees those branches at all intervals of its growth and each interval is accessible and remains there for him. As it would be for us to see and access any branch of a tree no matter how much that tree grows.
She was excellent in explaining it. It re-affirms Him.
Eleonore Stump is amazing and I recommend you seek her other videos on this channel and elsewhere!
It was a very odd hypothesis not really supported by anything. If anything there is no such thing as a now, and there may not even be a singular instant of any measurable time. At the Planck time (hypothetical but QM is incredibly accurate and predicts it) time loses meaning in fuzzy uncertainty below it's threshold.
What she had to say was really just a slightly more salient hypothesizing than what Deepak Chopra does on the backs of legitimate science.
The hubris of some of these theologians is sometimes comical.
It sounded either like a complete and meaningless word salad, or just God standing outside time and ‘observing’ (whatever that means in this context of non-time) a block universe where everything that had happened/is happening/will happen is present. Not very enlightening or original either way.
I always imagine a beautiful neon glowing tree in black darkness and God being the pruner. What you just explained is matching my own thoughts and my ideas are only from the Bible. I think he’s revealed it to his chosen.
It is like having a great mountain rising out of the plains. Well, everywhere you look at the mountain, it looks slightly different, depending on where you are looking. If you are up close, if you are far away, if you are to the north, the south, the east or the west-it all looks different, you see. But it is the same mountain. It has not changed with your perspective.
You may debate with others about the appearance of the mountain. You are looking from the north and they are looking from the south. Oh, the mountain looks so very different. You argue about its features and its manifestations. To someone up close, it is huge and monumental. To someone at a distance, it is just something out on the horizon. The experience is different. The perspectives are different. But the mountain has not changed. It has not adapted itself to people’s perspective or people’s position around it.
~Marshall Vian Summers
Thank you Rod!
Thank you, Rod.
I am happy to understand just one sentence in this entire video.
"nothing becomes, becoming is" I liked that
Even in the Bible, God gave people choices with ultimate results for either decision. Using the word " If ". This implies multiple realities depending on the individual's path, however, we can only experience the path we choose in the moment of now. What is amazing is that God can take our prayers from "now" and use the information to change our future.
Us praying to God is like a character in a novel praying to the author to change the ending.
"us" being you, and which specific identifiable immediate interlocutor?
There is very little point in using words unless they have some matching or corresponding experience, or are symbols of something that has actually been experienced, so it is meaningless to speak of "God's eternity" when there cannot possibly be any matching or corresponding experiences for either God or eternity- both are no more than vague generalisations or unfocused photographs or just blurs
@@vhawk1951kl What the f*ck are you babbling on about?
I don’t agree. Characters in novels are not real.
@@TimJohnston911Then it’s not that you disagree. It’s that you missed the point.
I love this analogy
God is inside me there is where he's at
Wish the sound track on this video had been in time!...ABSOLUTEY ,all over the place!!
Lol
somebody should do a series about obsessive people who ask abstract questions that have no answers
robert : hold my beer
This is the most 'How Many Angels Fit On The Head Of A Pin?' conversation I have heard in along time....
By the way,the answer is 42.
Maybe we got it all wrong from the beginning with our understanding of time, space, eternity and even God.
Extremely true. I was thinking about it. Even our theories of physics are incomplete currently. May be when we have discovered a theory of everything, when the technologies would be advanced enough to gaze into the exact moments or couple of hundred years before the Genesis of this universe and when we have quantum computing maybe then we can answer this question
and maybe the concept of time, space, eternity and even god itself are true from the begining and after time to time have been perfected by religion . who knows..
@@batmanarkham5120 are you expecting to peer back n see God holding a sign saying I did this? The answer is simply faith!
@@flyingtime5501maybe we’ll see him holding that sign the day we die. Apparently He has a sense of humor.
you can only closer to truth if you turn inward not outward 🙏
You sir, seem to ask all the questions ive been asking all my life, and a few more lol
Write in sequence events that happened to you in One hour.
Then put those on piece of paper at random. Then imagine those not happening but are just existing.
That's God outside of time
Assuming God has perfect, total knowledge of everything, that means God understands completely what it's like to be me, Robert Kuhn, my cat, or an insect on my wall. That means that God actually has to EXPERIENCE the totallity of my life, Robert Kuhn's life, my cat's life, and the life of an insect on my wall. Therefore, what we each are part of God's infinite consciousness because we are actually God living our limited life in the physical universe. This also means that God has CHOSEN to forget who he is when he lives each of our live's. There's no other way for God to have perfect, total understanding of who each of us are. Furthermore, it means God lives WITHIN time as each of us, as well as eternally outside of time as we know it. Because of this chain of reasoning, I've come to the same conclusion as the Nobel prize winning physicist Erwin Schrodinger: there is only ONE consciousness having an infinity of experiences.
namaste my friend.
I’m unclear how you reason that God has chosen to forget who he is when he lives each of our lives. The concept of superposition in quantum physics says that particles like electrons, photons and atoms can exist in multiple states simultaneously, so it may be that God can still remember who he is while he lives our lives as well.
Variations on a theme of God that are impossible to reconcile. Tormenting. The ultimate mind-f*cker.
If it's tormenting try to stop thinking about it. You'll never figure it out anyway.
I find them quite easy... and fascinating too...
@@tomashull9805 me too :)
One formulation I have read from some religious thinkers of the past is that the universe has "always been" emanating from God. There wasn't a time when it didn't exist at all. But what we experience as different points in time as we move through it, are all present to God.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
She is a smart Lady. I liked it how she "stopped time" by stretching it out infinitely. In physics there is a smallest unit of time - for us not for god - but if it would not be there indeed one could divide time instances infinitely until everything stops. And that god can understand things that are simpler than himself (linear) time but we can't understand more complex forms of time, makes sense. For example we can understand a 3 D form and a 2 D form but not a 5 D form. But that does not mean that someone who has a 5 D form can't understand what for example a quube is.
Yes, absolutely God is outside of time,
Hearing that it is resurrection of personality and not the body certsinly sounds more believable
Thank you Mr. Robert! 🌟
Eternity's most common name, is God,
Eternity is Name-less in it's own Eternal Nature.
Eternity is 'The Living', behind the Being.
God=Energy
Good show ... gets the brain pondering on issues most ask about but cannot grasp the significance of such questions and the implications of answers that may arise
i still contend that God is not of our reality but outside of it ... or how else could he create it if our reality is creating him? or a part of him?
our reality consists of time, space and energy which from our perpective are infinite
But could be finite as per Gods creation
in math ironically we have 3 infinities too
you can count forever, subtract forever and 0 is infinite
and 0 is nothing
with reference to time ... that number line implies "now" could very well be infinite.
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
@@kelleymcfadden9675i know all of your response ...
however God gave us minds of enquiry
I have not brought God into question but rather where he is in terms of reality or realms ... im of the belief he is outside of our reality and he created our reality
A very good entry in the Series. The guests expound their arguments very clearly.
OK FOLKS HERE IS THE ANSWER...READY?
NOBODY KNOWS...
GOOD DAY.
That's the best answer for all this craziness! But it's just human nature to seek answers about this life.
@@scottlouissmith2382And there is value in thinking about it and discussing it. Without reflecting on the topic, we cannot even know what we don't know.
@@SirLothian Isn't that what I just said?
@@scottlouissmith2382 Well yes and no. I assumed you meant it is not worth talking about since nobody knows. My point is that it is worth talking even if we don't know and never get an answer... Wasn't trying to be argumentative!
@@SirLothian Ok, I see! No harm, no foul!!!
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
◄ 1 Corinthians 3:19 ►
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness";
It is such a logical contradiction to say that "Time Began". By definition, without time there can be no change like a "creation of the universe" or a "universe coming into being". Since we see change, it appears that there is this thing we call time. To me, being able to notice change indicates that time never started and that it was always there. I think we have an understanding of time because our mind create a model of it as a way to understand it.
Time in our reality can have a beginning ... if you take away from eternity ... eternity remains ... and if you take more you still left with eternity and if you eternally keep taking more you still have eternity to take from ... so the piont you start taking is the begining to a never ending increment
time is eternal from our perspective ...at least you can agree on that
Dennis, if there is time, can you inform me of its basic unit ?
Is not the simple reality that when God's Son came into the world He entered our time world and was here for 33 years of that time world that we live in . Jesus Christ experienced all the realities that relate to the vicissitudes of time even to death on a cross where His suffering must, ' at times' felt like an eternity.. I Love you Lord and I lift up my voice to worship you Oh my soul rejoice. Take joy my King at what you hear, let it be a sweet sweet sound in your ear. Praise God and bless His Holy city of Jerusalem. Amen.
17:43,, time is timeless and god is a verb
I've seen multiple people on this show claim that if the universe is infinite then there are infinite people just like us doing different things and making different choices. most of the guests on this show sound smart but that is such a childish assumption. just because there is infinite space and galaxies and planets that does not mean there is another person like me. that doesn't even mean life exists anywhere else in the infinite universe. why are such serious people just assuming infinite space means nothing is unique?
The one that created physicality was deep in thought, phisical matter is the fruit of that thinking. It cannot be named the amount and duration of that thinking but it can be understood to be beyond our understanding. When it thought about phisical matter it thought hard. Manifesting it all while outside of what we can call time.
I'm experiencing a hectic bound of existential crisis and its lasted for a few months now. Its quite uncomfortable in my mind. I just need relief
Life is simpler than we think. Follow simplicity. The truth is always In front of you. It is.
If god exists he’s there all the time
God=energy
When the light of God enters into creation it forms an arc. It is when the lesser light crosses itself that we begin to mark time. In the end, what we witness when we see a black hole is the unwinding of time or creation collapsing unto itself. Throughout this process the will of God is accomplished through the mystery of gravity. Gravity is transformative from time to timelessness and is what enjoins science and human spirituality. God's covenant, manifest in mankind, leads us out of time into timelessness. He was born of the spirit impervious to time.
More analysis for more topics please, very good
The most important decision you will ever make is where you will spend eternity.
THIS IS GOD'S ONE AND ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN:
In the beginning, God created Adam and Eve and wanted to have perfect fellowship with them, but He gave them 1 rule to obey and that was not to eat of the tree in the middle of the garden called, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil"
Adam chose to disobey and sinned against God and this broke that perfect fellowship between man and his Creator. Because of this, the curse of sin and death came upon them and all the human race.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
In order to enter into heaven, there are a few things you must understand. You must understand and acknowledge that YOU are a sinner and your sin separates you from God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
A holy, righteous God cannot allow sin into heaven. If God did not punish sin, He would be unjust because all sin must be punished. God's price for sin is death, not just a physical death, but death in hell in a lake of fire.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
In the Old Testament times, when man sinned, God required them to kill a perfect, spotless lamb and to sprinkle its blood on the altar as a sacrifice for their sins. Jesus Christ, God's Son became that perfect, spotless Lamb that was sacrificed for the sins of the whole world. It was His blood that satisfied the just demands of a holy God. God will not accept anything else.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jesus loved us so much He WILLINGLY came and allowed wicked men to spit on Him, mock Him and beat Him until He was unrecognizable. They stripped him naked, thrust a crown of thorns on His head and drove nails into His hands and feet. He hung in agony for hours bleeding. He died in our place so that we could be saved from going to hell. There is no greater love than that!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
The good news is that Jesus didn't stay dead in the grave. He came back to life 3 days later just like He said He would. And that proved that He was God! No one else could do that.
Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Jesus did all this because He wants to give you the free gift of eternal life in heaven with Him!
You cannot do anything to earn your own way into Heaven. You can't work for it, be baptized for it, go to church for it or try to be good enough for it. It is a free gift that God is offering to anyone who will simply receive it by faith.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God said there is only one way to get to heaven, but it is not hard. You must admit you are a sinner and that you understand that the punishment for sin is eternal torment in hell in a lake of fire. You must understand that Jesus took that punishment for you when He died on the cross and shed His blood to pay for your sins and that He rose from the grave 3 days later. That is the gospel. If you believe these things, then all you have to do is humbly admit to God that you are a sinner deserving of hell, but you believe that he paid for your sins on the cross and rose again 3 days later. Ask him to forgive you and be merciful to you and give you eternal life. Thank Him for His saving you.
Romans 10:9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Let me warn you though, that if you don't get saved, and you reject God's sacrifice for you, you are already condemned and will suffer the torment of burning in hell for eternity in a lake of fire where you will be forever separated from God and all that is loving and good. God is holy and you must come His way or no way.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Please don't wait. Don't take the risk of putting it off until another day, repent, turn to Christ NOW because you aren't guaranteed to live another day on this Earth. Believe God's Word and call on Him today!
I humbly see it this way, we experience time differently than God would, even in this universe we can experience time differently (theoretically) depending on speed and gravity. Working off the analogy that time is a river i would add that we are on rafts that go only
Downstream , we can never go back or look beyond the bends upstream but God can see the entire river all at once as from afar and could enter it at the beginning middle or end which for Christians would be the incarnation, ie Jesus jumping in the river at a given point, and is subject to time, whereas those on the rafts (us) only flow down stream. He can enter time or remain outside of it.
in my opinion.. we live in different dimension with god. for example.. we live in 3d and he live beyond it.. so theoretically at flow of time stream like past, present and future its not even relevant.. moreover it could be the time itself has another explanation beyond past, present and future.. who knows
when you use the word "we" you seek to convey or point to yourself, and which specific identifiable immediate interlocutor?
Perhaps you can help me with this: does "we" ever have a headache, and if so how do you know that "we has a headache".
Given that time is merely a cognate or synonym for the impression of change, how do you know that other creatures broadly similar to yourself experience change or one of its cognates and synonyms in a different way from the way in which you experience it? - How do you go about establishing that, or discovering it is the case or true?- on what direcct immediate personal do you base the other's experience of whatever you mean by time, or change or whatever differently from you? - How do you go about discovering that?- can you experience what they experience as they experience it?
It is demonstrably impossible for one man to experience one another man experiences, for were otherwise, when one man has a headache all men would have headaches, and they simply don't - therefore they do not and cannot experience what the other experiences, for if it were otherwise they would experience what the other experiences and they simply don't.
Do you suppose all men to be identical, or the generality of men homogenous? - What is your evidential basis for that if that is your supposition?
The dual particle/wave property of matter serves as an aid to understanding God by analogy. God is both a principle (timeless, mental) and a person ( capable of interacting in real time).
That is , the dual nature of God.
How can people have never met God explain things about him?
No wonder why God’s name is “I am” or in other meanings: to exist, to be, to call forth, to bring about. The one who designs. The tree of life grower, the pruner, the gardener who lives in the eternal now.
I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
I gaze at the night sky and realize:
I am the stars gazing back at me.
I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity.
I now enter a state of consciousness that knows the oneness of all.
Now I am the diamond - not any one facet.
I am the diamond - the oneness of all.
I am no longer the fragmented mind of a man.
I am now Eternity observing my SELF - one of the denizens of Eternity's dream.
But it is not a switch of perspective.
It is what it is.
The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream.
And the process repeats in a timeless existence.
Like a mirror within a mirror within another.
I stare deeply into the expressionless white-eyed womb of Eternity.
I am not my SELF anymore but only the oneness of all.
But nothing changes in Eternity.
There never is a change of perspective.
It is what it is.
There still is my SELF and Eternity,
The oneness of all and the denizens of its dream.
I am roaming the desert beneath the tapestry of stars.
YES!! GOD EXISTS!! I AM PROOF THAT GOD EXISTS.
God is this, God is that... no one knows... or is real... time this, space that...
I. Can somewhat grasp the notion
Of all time is now
It mskes
Sense
When did the past end and future begin
TIME IS DEPENDING ON GOD, BECAUSE GOD IS TIME/LIFE FOR HIMSELF, GOD IS THE SPACE/SOUL/SPIRIT FOR TIME TO EXIST IN HIM, GOD IS THE ETERNITY. SO ETERNITY =GOD =LIFE =TIME, & HE IS JESUS/YESHUA/YHWH, ALWAYS THE SAME, YESTERDAY & TODAY & FOREVER, ALPHA&OMEGA AMEN! 😊🙏
Time and universe is within God.
God is formless, timeless but, can take any form at any time.
All it needs is sincere prayer.
That's how the words if Saints are word of God.
So it is a special pleading fallacy that you have with no proof. Timeless means that it simply does not exist in reality and you have a logical fallacy when you are suggesting that you know all about it.
How did you come to those conclusions? Please explain the data you analyzed and the methodolgies you employed.
Excellent interview with Eleonore Stump !
I see God as having four dimensional consciousness.
Revelation 22:13
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End".
@Stefano Portoghesi...no one can deny space, time and energy are infinite in our universe so it cannot be a construct of peoples wishful thinking .... eternity is REAL
Great! more words salad: Yummy :)
It is easy to say something such as out of time but the problem is how would you describe or go around with such thing. When we talked of something it is not enought that we say something about but we should expound it in a way that we totally describe it to the easy understanstanding of everybody.
All speculation no one knows
God put a cap on our brains similarly the way we limit machine abilities
You don't know that! You are just making it up.
Gods concept of time might be different from ours.
Depends how fast we are going.
I can't believe anyone believe in this delusion
You know that closer to the truth means closer to the God ... John 14:6 , the TRUTH...
Nonsense, truth necessarily requires demonstration to substantiate it, as no one can demonstrate any god you cannot assert it as any truth.
It is deep. I like her explanation very much. I understand it, but I know also that the language she has to use is insufficient to fully convey the "Reality." I think that is what philosophy is in very large part---the search for a language that is sufficient to fully convey Reality. I do not think we will ever reach such a point.
Mr. Kuhn clearly wants to believe, but his critical side holds him back. This is how I was for my entire life. However, as a senior now, I look back upon a lifetime on this earth, and pretty much everything and everyone I believed in has failed me. Science and materialism are very limited. They cannot explain the whole of reality, and there are plenty of other considerations that now make me believe there is something much greater than us whether we call that something "God" or "Source" or "the ground of all being" or anything else. Mr. Kuhn, for his own sake, is going to have to let go and adopt faith, and why not do? He has nothing to lose.
I give R.L. Kuhn ALL the credit for asking good questions.....deep....but to try to get ANSWERS from other HUMANS is limited.....fruitless....
The present is eternal, has always existed, will always exist, is everywhere and cannot be escaped from, even by way 'death'. We are immortal, with or without the physical vehicle.
cool, you should write a novel
God is here right in front of you in another dimension.
You can not see it, but you will on your death.Bed when your vibration will raise.That is when you will see the world's
Why can't he be outside of time and yet enter into time?
Its like a bicycle wheel. When you are in the hub, you are wit part of god in the now. When you are in the tyre, you are part of god in time. Every event in time is connected to the hub. To the hub time does not flow. When you walk the tyre of time, the now passes by, out of your awareness. You are hiking a dream.
God=Energy
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Talk.
Ing about God you are going to be meeting him.
He is a very strong energy. Just like a spirit we are spirit.
I wonder why would anybody pay smart and imaginatively gifted people to speculate and hypothesize on stuffs that don't exist, won't exist or can't exist!
I believe in a nameless God
You got to get RT Mullins on here.
Quantum mechanics allows (predicts) infinite dimensions... Should we assume that the Cause of the laws of physics that allow infinite dimensions is inferior? Or could God's Eternity consist of infinite dimensions?
Hey Tomas... I like your viewpoints. Very interesting.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Thanks. I'm just trying to get closer to truth :-)
@@tomashull9805 Me too. I think we have to keep seeking the Truth all of our life.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Sure. We just have to make sure that we are not seeking the truth as we would like it to be...In other words, we have to remove our biases when seeking truth...
If time is integral to energy, then in our physical universe, all would stand still without the passing of time. Consider Einstein's theory of relativity that energy has time as a component of the speed of light.
There doesn't seem to be any need to rationalize God's time. All you need to do is invoke magic and therefore God can do anything.
What's God's Eternity? Alpha & Omega.
Eternity is the atemporal attribute of reality. And that attribute is best explained without the fictitious agencncies of mythological deities.
God is Time
Why does our environmental circumstance cause biast in our religious preferences?
(Location,location,location)
The more they try to explain faith, the more it becomes in utterly nonsense.
Yep.
God has no beginning had always been there
Não fique assim companheiro, como que perdido, Deus é tudo que vês e não vês !
How does God enjoy his life or spend his time?
Is he married?
Block universe is real, we can see stars on a night sky and sun during the day, no arguing about that. It's just what are we talking about, picture is not real, those lights are just waves of electromagnetic force radiation, permeating entire universe. Because matter is made from that luminous stuff, it's soaked with light, but is not light. Stuff is energy, light is just a mirage, an infinite reflections of energy bouncing all over the void. And it does that because waves intersect and interfere, they stretch with a distance and do other weird things, like every dot contain an information about whole object and such. Waves hit our eye cone, those get excited and reflect light in two ways, one part radiate in environment as a sphere of energy potential, but part of it get modulated, enhanced and send directly into our brain. Brain doesn't see photons but dots appear where conic oscillations interfere, like trowing bunch of rocks in a pond of water. We can never see reality, only what was visible from a certain point in space and time and in range our eyes can detect. So we exist in intimate contact with reality, coming to us in discrete packets of potentials, everything else is a fluid holographic projection filling all the void. Therefore it's physically possible God could see everything that happened as a 4D movie, except dots of stuff actual reality is made of, since they didn't emit any radiation of the present moment before it could occur. And let's suppose our thoughts also radiate energy and he can see those too, but can't know what i'll imagine next before i do. But he can see picture from other objects past coming to our present space, except that doesn't mean those physical manifestations will have any influence on our reality. Some might, everything else is just a cosmic background, a stage of some sort. Smoke and mirrors.
But what is eternal in this natural play, we know everything with mass must decay and transmute or became light. Photons will remain forever, since they can't experience any internal change. Electrons might, they have mass, but no size somehow, not sure what electricity actually is. Than there are force particles, weird and strange things inside parts of atom, some suppose to come from beginning of the universe and obviously still doing fine, there's much going on without end in sight. We are doomed, our body is made from mass, forget about it. Same goes for planet and also for our sun, all atoms, goodby sunshine. Some things will exist forever, this is a weird fact, so eternity is possible after all or something is wrong with our physics, God seems to be doing just fine. Why God at all than, something is hidden in an eternal cosmic picture, something primal and a self perpetuating force, making movie come alive in our mind.
Whom is the block universe real to? Plus, it doesn't work on quantum level, so just like with quantum entanglement breaking the speed of light, Einstein was also wrong about the block universe...
Xspot box Just a friendly word of advice - if you write long posts it is best to break it into paragraphs with a line of space between each one. Especially on mobile devices, tablets etc. it is really hard to read walls of words. It is easy to lose your place and very difficult to find where you left off.
Presumably, you took the time to write the post so you desire people to read it. I didn’t and don’t read posts that are so constructed because of the difficulty mentioned. Add space.
@@celeritasc9207 I know what you mean, been struggling with longer comments myself and i'm aware my opinion doesn't matter in all that crowd. This is a general philosophy, so it's expected from participants to elaborate their opinions up to certain extend. It's easier to understand ideas if you can follow person's line of reasoning, but it's not heavy stuff we talk about here and it's pointless to describe to many details.
My ideas are kinda original, since i tend to speak from my own angle, as a post deist. Hope you don't mind to much, somehow i couldn't find myself in academia, ideology or mysticism, so i started my own religion :)
But if you find the time and want to visualize things as i do, go ahead and read, my ideas are well thought of and structured, you shouldn't get bored or i'm just a bad global English writer, to lazy to learn another proper language.
So, tldr for, "I just made something up like everyone else." My mercy...
"But God then became trapped, never able to revert to God's timeless,eternal state." I often feel trapped in this temporal life. The strange thing is... who can unlock the trap?
The Devil?
@@ferdinandkraft857 I don't think the devil has the right key. Anyhow... even if he did, I think he wants us to remain trapped in our cages.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 c'mon, give the guy a chance!
I think the concept of God being eternal is just too much for the Human mind to comprehend, and I do not believe that we can totally grasp the concept and frankly I don't believe anyone who says they do. It's not for us to know everything and some things cannot be comprehended with a finite mind.
Hi Sir, I have a simple question. Inside a factory at the end of the shift a supervisor and his co-worker are counting the produced objects, the objects are approximately the size of a tennis ball. It is their daily routine,the worker counts the objects as he takes it from the production lot and puts it inside a bag. The role of the supervisor is to keep watch so that there is no mistake while counting. One fine day, before starting the counting process, the supervisor looks at the lot and writes down some random three digit number as quantity of the produced items, in short he assumes that the actual quantity would probably match with that number. Now the question is what are the chances of that actual quantity matching exactly with that random number?
Intuitively it seems impossible for there to be an infinite past because if there is an infinite past how would we ever have reached the present? It just seems obvious that time needs a beginning. I can easily conceive of an infinite future, but not an infinite past.
why use the word "infinite" where you have no experience of the infinite - which can only be some vague woolly idea with no corresponding experience that is not no more than a vague woolly idea? Do you notice how men use words and simply assume that they have the meaning of those words or some corresponding experience? - In plain language it is as if they say to themselves I have the word, therefore I must know what it means or how I understand it it", but if you actually ask them what the word means to them or conveys to them, they have no idea; it is as if words obscure rather than reveal- they act as mere proxies for something else, the nearest analogy being a pectoral photograph or painting of a piece of bread; it looks like a piece of bread but it is not in the sense that you cannot eat it as if it were bread, and the same goes for words; why bother with the meaning or import of a word if you have the word and never need to trouble yourself with what it means?
👉📣 If a human is able to do so many things we themselves can't believe, what can the creator do is just out of our span of thinking or imaginations 😊
God=Energy
@@johnyoutube6746 👉📣 Thank you John you are one amazing person with a great personality 🤞
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In the beginning there was a word/energy and the word was God
Talking Quantum is Very-very close....to the Truth 😉
Simple, God the father is eternal n timeless. He can enter time thru his son Jesus aka the word of God aka the creator.
Why don't you ask god yourself Robert? Set up an interview then ask him directly instead of beating around the bush.
@Stefano Portoghesi Yah!
That is exactly what Robert is doing, to be more precise this is the second best way to determine the truth about God's true nature....Since God refuses proposal for direct interview he obviously want us to conclude he is evil or doesn't exist. Why would Good God want us to be fooled by such idiotic contradictory behaviour?
@N RJ Who cares about Earth...leave that to science, we are talking about the sense of life, that is philosophy...just in case you've never heard about that...
@N RJ If you want to become normal person watch my videos...
Would Robert need faith after that?
Eternity so far beyond one has to probably experience to inform, a reason why God's son came into the world as Jesus. Main concern is to get to eternity from this world, leaving explanation of eternity to Jesus.
I think you can push this question of a timeless God even further if what you mean by "God" is the wave function of the Universe. If the Universe has zero energy and a spherical topology, then both space and time are emergent, not fundamental. The only fundamental thing is the quantum mechanical wave-function, in which case that's all "there is". The wave function is not part of spacetime - it gives rise to both space and time. That's what God really is. It's also the simplest explanation possible.
If he exists he's not definable
The Universe is made of Time.
I love this idea, God felt in love to his creation, lose virginity and decide he will grow old and die together with us. Better than what was before creation, i guess. And it's not like universe will die any time soon, we have eternity to spend in a great company. God being what it is can make end of the universe meaningless, just return to his old primordial form or became something else, whatever.
It's all because this things around us are not a stone, atoms are not geometrical solids, have nothing to do with anything we can possibly imagine and aren't small at all, since they radiate and absorb energy of entire universe, even bend space time itself. An ordinary piece of sand can't do that, it's just an invisible lump of matter, detached from reality, if we stick to definitions. But since sand is not a small piece of something, we can see it, it bend space time and react to influences, no matter how small it seems for creatures like us. It's a strange contradiction, we can see a small dusty particle, but we think it's not really important because it's so small. But why do we see it than, if it's so small, perhaps it have a giant battery and powerful lamp installed somewhere at it's tinny core. I'm telling ya, reality is not things inside other things, it's way more complicated, complex and powerful than that.
And why do scientists say we can see back in time when looking at cosmos, not really, all we see is projection of light particles or waves, whatever. It just so happens that all we know about physical reality align at that maximum rate of change, but please mind we can detect only like 10% of everything that exist, according to same measurements and calculations. Why not travel faster than light, it doesn't make time go away, might brake fundamental laws of motion and energy maybe, but nothing really bad would happen, since every object in the universe depend of their elemental clock first. It's atoms, no matter where they are or in what state, they still signal their internal time space.
Here's where true magic begins, asking physical questions about divine force of nature will always lead us to same conclusions, everything is possible, if you have fairy tale powers. Because this is the only way God can be all those contradictions and paradoxes, he must be made from magic dust and can do everything we see in cartoons. So we have two choices, stick with physics and numb down personal intuition or believe in fairy tales and keep the faith sisters and brothers.
@Mark Coleman Absolute power of nature, sounds like a weapon of universal destruction.
It's interesting how modern technology is based on a work of a single man, Nikola Tesla believed we could use Earth's electric field to convey and store information from our conscious minds in that ether. He had visions of civilization based on electricity before people knew how to generate electric potential and route energy where is needed, but he couldn't know how exactly would that work and what do we mean by information today. Smart mobile phones are best example, 5 years ago average battery was around 2 amp hours, now it's 5 ah and modern circuits are times more efficient. This means smaller circuit perform more calculations and waste less energy to heath. Modern electronics can do much more work in less time and use less energy, because of that non intuitive rule human society is more efficient than ever before in history. But are we also happier with our lives, that's completely different question.
I believe imagination is most precious substance in whole universe and nothing we do as species can't compensate for pure biological potential of a dreaming conscious brain. This means every single healthy human brain can be more powerful than all the rest of humanity combined, because it takes a lot of imagination to come up with something completely new, no other human in history has though about before. We live in Tesla age now and we can't even imagine different kind of technologies, because electricity is the only power we can control to push our machines, just like steam engines were before that and same as future ideas will change this world again, making all this industrial power that exist today obsolete over night.
Currently it’s approximately 85 years for a normal human.
Real good channel.
So what about when a person dies and goes to heaven. There must be passing sequence of events in heaven for a person, so what time is that in relation to time in the universe?
"Can God foreknow the future? no absolutely not" then there is no God Cannot accept that.
God=Energy
Let me tell you something, God news.Everything about you.What you do what you think, what you want?What you don't want what you see what you hear.English everything
Eternity is beyond time; eternity is beyond space.
Time and space both have a beginning. Eternity has no beginning and no end.
Eternity has existed before time, exists simultaneously with time, and will exist beyond the end of time.
Imagine time and space confined inside a porous tube, surrounded and permeated by eternity.
God dwells in eternity, but God is not just transcendent (beyond reach), He is also immanent (within reach).
God is simultaneously inside and outside the porous tube that contains space-time. But how does God do this?
God does this by His Spirit, which encompasses, permeates, and interconnects all that exists, including time and space.
1 CORINTHIANS 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of this world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things that are mighty.
God is outside of Time, and our comprehension of Eternity is out of reach....it's incomprehensible because no human being can grasp infinity which we could define as everything realized at once...for us that is equal to nothingness since all realized at once is equal to nothing left to realize..once there is nothing new to come we are practically dead, isn't that so?
Of course he is always outside of everything how can we comprehend him ? Yet religion apparently does
not only that but they personify him not only that but they grant him mythical characteristics
@@godofleverege1829 You are right...God should reveal himself to every human being instead of being hidden since the dawn of humanity...His hiddenness is just one aspect of the biggest philopsophical problem of all time : the problem of evil...
ODIUPICKU'S CLONE-1 if that being exist religions gives him a preposterous picture what a shame
@@odiupickusclone-1526 Evil is a physical phenomena, it come from force of natural socialization we call gravity. Energy is not evil, potentials must always balance out, they have no choice, but gravity make things move in unpredictable paths, twirl, swirl, dance,... it's complicated.
@@odiupickusclone-1526 like every programmer should reveal himself to his avatars (bots) he programmed? he is not of the virtual world he created but in the real world and when the bot stares out the screen does he see the real world? God is outside our reality or how else could he create this reality?
This is a non question. Time is a characteristic of the geometry of the universe, if you somehow could be outside this region of space we call our universe, time would not be a thing. Also, even inside the universe, if you could move at speed of light, time would disappear to you.
Time is not real. Real things simply don't stop existing when conditions breach the capacity of their parameters. The construct of time is, however, very useful for human beings trying to understand the nature of reality. Such tedious arguments. We don't get to make up things and say that they are true, simply because they appeal to our incredibly limited perspectives.