Model Railroad Update 104 - Building Hell Gate 2 (Standard Gauge Staging)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I know it has been a few weeks since I've produced a video. I haven't given up, just been busy with a few things and was out of town as well. I have a lot of video "in the can" so to speak. I should have some more stuff come out in the next couple of weeks. I'm looking forward to this fall and getting back to some structure builds. I'm ready for a break from track work/benchwork/wiring!!
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You are sharing a virtual Library of information and ideas in your videos. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
Looking great, Dennis! It's all little puzzles and challenges to figure out as you go, and then just building some amazing turnouts by hand. Kudos!
Thanks Paul! Hell Gate has been an adventure of Rabbit holes and “best laid plans!”
Hi Dennis. I would just like to compliment you on your craftsmanship building your turnouts. They come out better than anything you could buy and allow you a lot of flexibility. Not only do they work correctly but what stands out is the lack of wheel drop as engines and rolling stock goes through them. Kudos my friend.😃
Fighting against wheel drop is a constant battle! Thanks for the kind words!
Totally agree it's always about what's next? The key is try and not to become paralysed by analysis, sometimes you just have to get started.
Wise words, I have been guilty of the dreaded paralysis of analysis more than once!’ Lol.
That’s The Thing About Model Railroading what to Do and How to Do It this is a Passion and Pride thing Always Remember that. When Done it’s Gonna Be Awsome.
Couldn't agree more!
Another great video. Thanks for sharing. Love the hand laid turnouts. And the music is great too.
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the detailed update. I love seeing the attention to perfection in track work. It will pay off.
Thanks!
Great video Dennis, sorry I missed the premier, got a little at work tonight. I didn’t realize the size difference between HOn30 and HO standard was. The new scene with those switches are going to look awesome. Can’t wait to see the finished product. Thanks for sharing!
No worries Kyle, thanks for the view and comment!
Dennis this really looks difficult but you made it look easy. Trying to combine the 2 gauge together will open up a bit more realizum. You really have my attention
Thanks Chris! I hope things are going well in your neck of the woods!
Hi Dennis, I’m not sure how good you are at rerailing rollingstock but as you might be aware a turntable is one of the most common places to derail a train. Now combine that with low clearances for Hell’s Gate, you might find yourself in a pickle uncoupling and retailing trains on the SG runaround. Food for thought but you’ll need clearance at least to get your hand in there if it’s a manual turntable.
@@allychat8496 everything I’m doing is all about clearance and solid performance. Everything is a work in progress! Thanks!
Love the mudhens.
Me too! My favorite prototype.
@@OtterCreek we've got a place here named Crossroads Village that has DRGW 464, it's out for boiler rebuilding and inspection right now, but should return to service soon!
Looks good Dennis. An interesting way to use both standard and narrow gauge together.
Thanks Jim!
You might consider remote mounts for the tortoise machines under Hells Gate. That would allow you to avoid interference between the two levels. Then the tortoise would be offset away from the lower tracks.
I'm pretty sure the MRCS turnouts will work fine. I'll figure something out if they don't. Thanks for stopping by!
WOW, Brave man using a Brass engine for testing. I would have used an old Tyco or maybe a Bachmann in case it goes over the edge.
That is the loco I wanted to test the radius with!
Nice update. I must have missed the reason why the standard gauge is on plywood and the narrow gauge is on spline. Can you explain in next video? Great progress. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks Larry! It will all make sense eventually, the standard gauge is only a small staging yard, two tracks with at least one turnout. Better suited for plywood. The Narrow gauge is coming from across the room from a different elevation, single track no turnouts. Better suited for spline.
Howdy Dennis! I'm wondering. (uh oh🤔) You could eliminate the turnout by the turntable and just curve the tracks into the turntable and also make the staging tracks longer, if your turntable has a retractable tapered pin on the end of the table, that you engage into a tooling bushing at each rotary position (for perfect, repeatable track alignment). Those D-G turnouts are gorgeous🤗 by the way! . . . . . . 🚂Lawrence . . . . . .
I did consider that! The adventure is still in progress, :-)
Some nice progress here.
It's interesting that you are considering 18" curves. I'm modelling N scale and consider 18" radius too tight.
I am, however, not doing narrow gauge.
We visited MOTAT a couple of days ago. It is a museum in Auckland. They have a pretty good collection of trams. Those things can negotiate some wicked curves!
It's not that I'm considering 18" radius as a desired element. I'm curious if it's an option. The section I'm working on now for the standard gauge will be hidden so I'm not concerned about the appearance, only the functionality. There are two locations on the already built section of the railroad that I had to go with 18" radius just because of space. The OC&RG is a mountain railroad so tight curves are some times necessary just like the prototype! :-). Thanks for stopping by!
@@OtterCreek I have a similar problem with my "coffee table." Due to space I am having to use a much tighter radius than I would like.
I am also hiding it in a tunnel.
When we finally have the space to build an actual layout I intend to use much bigger radius curves.
As a Kiwi all of our railway here is 3'6" (narrow gauge). While it isn't as narrow as the 3' you are modelling there are still some very tight radius curves.
In our trucks we have a sort of GPS that also shows the railway. There are some ridiculously tight curves where the rail almost does a 180 and comes back on itself.
NZ has 4-8-4 locomotives that are the biggest I'm aware of that ran on the mainline. There are a few Garrets but they are more static displays that were rescued from the cutting torch in South Africa.
We saw what looked like a 4-8-2 2-8-4 just south of Auckland with two other locomotives with a very African appearance.
The embellishments on the smoke box etc.
Did the brass locomotive come with anything indicating a minimum radius?
Very cool. There was no info with the Standard gauge loco. I have first hand knowledge now though! 😉
First thing to remember (at 13:22) is not to leave your DC pack unattended. 🤣So, in our long tradition I've been carefully watching for any safety violations, but it appears that you have cleverly edited this video...maybe next time I'll catch something! 😄
You know I'm kinda concerned that you have those two dual gauge turnouts back to back. And one will be right under the benchwork inside a tunnel portal. It almost spells a place where disasters could happen and just be out of reach. I guess we need to see the next video and how you finalize that track portion...
I'd also try to get as wide curves as possible on your standard gauge track, especially because it'll be hidden. Remember it's the HO (Hugely Oversized) scale that needs curves
I'll keep that in mind! *warms up the editing software*. 😁
Hi, this is all fascinating to me, I started watching Boomer for his scenery work and ended watching the entirety of his River Road Vlogs. I'm coming from a Wargaming background, hence the scenery interest, and I've certainly learnt a lot from Boomer! However I feel more drawn towards the Steam/American West, even though I'm in the UK, just appeals more to me than modern trains do. I've heard Boomer mention you a few times when I've watched the Second Section Podcasts (need to watch more of those too), so when your video popped up in my feed I thought I'd take a look. I love watching how you guys build things and following the progress from start to finish.
The one thing that does confuse me is this "same scale but different size" thing. Were the actual Prototypes different sizes in real life too? This dual track is also amazing, A lot of things would need to alter in my physical environment before I could think about doing a Layout, leaning towards a Shelf Layout, as the workshop isn't fit enough to work in let alone run trains. In the mean time I guess I'll be working my way through the Otter Creek videos 😂.
I've also found a local Model Railway Club, which I hope to visit soon. Apologies for the length of this comment!
Cheers, Mick
Thanks for the comment and the view! Your story sounds familiar to me. I got into model railroading because I was also looking for scenery techniques for Warhamer (WHFB). All of my minis are in a display case in the house now that I'm a model railroader! I'm also a big fan of Boomer, his channel is a great gift to the hobby.
Yes, the Narrow gauge equipment was that much smaller than standard gauge. Narrow gauge railways tended to be in more mountainous regions where their size is more conducive to sharper curves and clinging to the sides of cliffs!
@@OtterCreek Yeah snap!! I've got an old Dogs of War project I want get done as a display army. Been more into converting Marines and Orks recently. Starting a new job soon, so once some bills are sorted out I'll need to decide if the old Workshop is saveable or go for a new Garden Room, that's liveable from the start.
Ah! That makes sense now, yeah. Wouldn't want your Railcars tumbling down the mountain, cheers!
Where’d you get that Gray NG Throwbar?
Oak Hill Model Railroad Track Supply. I have yet to test one so the jury is still out so to speak. They are delicate for sure. I'm hoping I can talk him into making one that is more inline with the PCB ties. The hole is very close to the outside edges of the bar so I'm afraid that it will eventually break there. www.ohrtracksupply.com/#!/~/cart
@@OtterCreek ..llthanks for the info! Mike.
@@OtterCreek …I just checked Jeff’s site… he has dual gauge TBs… just what I need!
@@michaell.maloney4026 Hope they work great for you!
@@OtterCreek I’ll keep you posted.