I hope to see a full review of this and a intensive Battery test is a must,because there are some reviews that the previous model only last up to 2hours.
Last one had a whole ass dedicated gpu. This one being integrated graphics should save much more power. That combined with the 70 watt hour battery should make this thing pretty decent with battery life tbh
AMD has done a lot of work to shrink down the size of their chips with the chiplet approach. I think this product will outline how performant small dies can be. Really crazy how cool this thing is. I imagine once they release the 2026 variant on 3nm, it will be absolutely insane how tiny and performant these chips will get. Let's hope they deprecate all the crazy, poorly binned skews and whittle the entire stack down to skews like this. This is pretty much all any average person needs, and it does it all.
only down side i think it is the price lol if it come to mini pc i wanna see how much it gonna be if it not in a really premium product if it can be chaper then 1100 i think it would be a amazing product .
Dude. I'm seeing you after a decade. Algos had hidden you for a decade. Nice to see you. Nostalgia to hear your voice. Hope all's well with you. Subscribed.
@@deluge6479 his channel is 10 years old, he has multiple videos with over a million views, and he has some fame from working at android authority. so it is not abnormal to have hundreds of thousands of subscribers but not get a lot of views relatively
@@deluge6479 I think him keeping his name instead of a brand name like mr.mobile or aa is what's limited his views. An external name implying a brand would pump up the numbers
@@mcslender2965 I hate they gate keep it like that. I know it's business and they need a reason to release the next product as an "upgrade" but smh. we are not talking a budget product here..
I like how you presented this device. I see it as more of a 2 in 1 laptop thats gaming capable. Its not ideal for actual usage on a lap, but nobody actually uses laptops like that very often anymore lol.
This is honestly the coolest product announced at CES. I'm really interested in running LLM models for productivity and the fact you can get tons of unified RAM is just a game changer. In many cases this makes Strix Halo better than Nvidia consumer GPUs at AI. Wow.
I just bought a Lenovo Legion Go and have loved its portability. This looks like it would be a great addition for a portable setup offering a lot more than handhelds! Awesome breakdown and video!
Nice vid! I don't think I saw expected pricing? I've been lobbying for convertibles that didn't try being thing, thin is not a thing over performance, thin doesn't take less space in bag it doesn't take less space on desk or on lap. I just don't want soldered ram, unless it comes with the max the cpu can support
another youtuber confirmed than asus has new 5000 series egpu which are compatiable with this tablet/laptop. Though I haven't seen any asus proprietary connector on this device. Let's see if once it's released.
@@Harami69666 they have a 2025 xg mobile with thunderbolt 5. they got rid of their proprietary connection socket. it's already on the Asus RoG site to view.
Would really wonder how a telescopic controllers setup would work and the total system power, kinda wish they put a higher Wattage battery here but I'm exciting how this form factor is going forward
I might actually think about buying this thing, and it's capable of running Cyberpunk at above medium settings? That's enough for me because I'll be doing medium-light gaming on this thing...iGPU has come a long way man, we eatin good. ROG has raised the bar on how powerful tablets should be.
I have some question i'm Nomad. Can we charge with same USB from rog Ally ? (For know a bit consommation électricity) And is it quiet as a rog Ally when we play ? Or it's more like a laptop gamer ? Thanks if you answer 😊
I'd love some stylus support on this. Then it makes it a nobrainer to spend on this instead of a tablet from any of the other companies. It can complete replace those.
Watch other channels like Gamer's Nexus, LTT, Hardware Unboxed, Hardware Canucks who will properly benchmark these new AMD chips. This 395 Max and the new 9955HX3d. You can't get technicality here
@@Unicornpirate My use doesn't actually look for pure performance. I favor more on power efficiency. Like I have Steam Deck, Aokzoe A1 Pro, Legion Go, OneXPlayer X1 AMD, I actually always tried to set the TDP to the lowest and I am enjoying 40/40 or 36/144 or even 30/120 FPS/Hz ratio but at the lower TDP possible to with my acceptable graphics quality. So having more power or higher benchmark is not what I am looking for.
I understand the RAM is on the chip so having 64GB options for a small user base would make it more expensive as they would need a new production run. Having 32GB only keeps costs down. Other devices will have more RAM but they will be proportionally more expensive, similar to Apple.
This us cool, Microsoft surface starts a trend and others take it to the next level... But without the Neo and Duo actually becoming a thing snd other picking them up I don't k ow what's next. Imagine this in a Neo running w12 in the future.
As long as i can buy a samsung galaxy tab s10 and a acer predator helios neo 16 with dedicated gpu for the same price i won't get the interest to get less in that form factor, it should cost 1000 to make sense
This looks amazing, but its a thick 2 in 1 tablet. If the price for one of this is round $1000 and up, I would rather buy a decent midrange laptop with discrete gpu
No more dGPU but I wouldn't be surprised if they claimed the custom-made AMD apu is as fast as the 4070 in the last gen lol "thru the power of AI". Even a blind person can see they've always been wanting to sell the flow series with their external GPUs AND they were so nice to use Thunderbolt 5 BUT the new Z13 doesn't have this port? Do they not want us to buy their new external 5090? lol Real disappointed they didn't upgrade to OLED. What's the point of changing from 165 hz to 180 hz lol.
In terms of pure shaders, the AMD APU is comparable to the RTX 4050 laptop. But I suspect that it is somewhere between an RTX 4060 laptop and an RTX 4070 laptop. Without a dock, the theoretical power of the 16 cores and 32 threads cannot be fully utilized. This is the issue of video editing and all that.
OLED is more expensive and probably more relevant, will give significantly less battery life. Last year's model got a lot of negative press due to the terrible battery life, 4-5 hours for mixed work loads. They have increased the battery size to fix that, but OLED would counter that.
So let me get this straight: this is AMD Strix Halo, which is a combination of AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 + Radeon 8060S iGPU? And that's something AMD expects to remember and pay up for? Are you serious?
On the GPU side it has 40 compute units. So pretty much desktop rtx4060/rx7600xt levels of performance which is insane for integrated graphics. It’s a beast
WAS excited for this but No USB 4 v2.0 80gbps speed so old technology regular usb4 and they released the world's first thunderbolt 5 external graphics card. So half the bandwidth of regular usb4 40gbps why? Not good for hardcore gaming if you were going to get a external graphics card...
You guys shouldn't even be doing reviwes yet. 3 videos and not one of them can give you a real answer on the actual battery test. They just make a bs battery section and then talk about absolutely nothing. Even the good reviewers like your self. You should just stop tryna be first an give us a real review
Shit is nice but too expensive. No one wants to spend 2 grand for a 2-1 that doesn’t even have discrete graphics. I paid about 1.3k for a 2022 rog flo in 2022 and that was more reasonable.
@@Theboss00077 a brand new device aggressively engineered to run 4060-level graphics in a 12mm chassis and will run that class of graphics at nearly half the wattage and you think it shouldn't cost AT LEAST $2K?! please tell me who is your drug dealer cause I need some of that shit now lol.
If only it didn't have that 14 year old gamer aesthetic. ROG should copy Valve when it comes to industrial and clean design. Just keep the republic of gamers insignia on top and have that window on the back and vents. Get rid of those dumb looking lines and words on the back.
Or, and hear me out, they can keep it because it makes their device unique. And you don't look at the back of it all day. You look at the screen. Kind of like how it's supposed to be used
Exactly, right? If this thing looked more like a surface, with a nice clean, silver color, I would buy it. But the hardcore gamer stuff everywhere, looks kinda edgy
They can leave this device as it is and just release a new ProArtPZ. Imagine a ProArtPZ with this or an even better screen, more IO, a stiffer metal keyboard/trackpad and a custom pen protocol to make it a true „Pro“ device. Basically a IPadPro for have the price and double the funktionality.
Even if the performance is lower I'd still consider that a good thing. On mine, Nvidia keeps fighting windows for the control over the gpu so advanced optimus is not as convenient to use as they marketed to be.
I hope to see a full review of this and a intensive Battery test is a must,because there are some reviews that the previous model only last up to 2hours.
Last one had a whole ass dedicated gpu. This one being integrated graphics should save much more power. That combined with the 70 watt hour battery should make this thing pretty decent with battery life tbh
I am curious about battery life too
The problem was because of bad intel cpu
Why no OLED? 😢
This is very expensive, rumour base model is £2000, so OLED would make it even more so.
but mini led backlight with ips pannel
ally x type shit with oled is what i asked for santa last year btw🤤🤤 2025 just began, let's wait!
@@හිටං-ට6ඳ really mini LED?
@@හිටං-ට6ඳmini-led is crap compared to OLED
AMD has done a lot of work to shrink down the size of their chips with the chiplet approach. I think this product will outline how performant small dies can be. Really crazy how cool this thing is. I imagine once they release the 2026 variant on 3nm, it will be absolutely insane how tiny and performant these chips will get.
Let's hope they deprecate all the crazy, poorly binned skews and whittle the entire stack down to skews like this. This is pretty much all any average person needs, and it does it all.
only down side i think it is the price lol if it come to mini pc i wanna see how much it gonna be if it not in a really premium product if it can be chaper then 1100 i think it would be a amazing product .
@@phantasm100-l7qjust wait 10 years for now its gonna be cheaper
Dude. I'm seeing you after a decade. Algos had hidden you for a decade. Nice to see you. Nostalgia to hear your voice. Hope all's well with you. Subscribed.
I think he purchased subscribers. There's no way he has almost 300k subs but can't even break 10k views on any video
@@deluge6479 his channel is 10 years old, he has multiple videos with over a million views, and he has some fame from working at android authority. so it is not abnormal to have hundreds of thousands of subscribers but not get a lot of views relatively
Thought he sounded familiar
@@deluge6479 I think him keeping his name instead of a brand name like mr.mobile or aa is what's limited his views. An external name implying a brand would pump up the numbers
He braked algorithm for me too.
why no flow x13 tho.. they give us proart px13 but it has only 60z display
I think for OLED it's either touch screen support of high refresh rate for now
@@mcslender2965 I hate they gate keep it like that. I know it's business and they need a reason to release the next product as an "upgrade" but smh. we are not talking a budget product here..
Thanks for sneaking those fan speeds and acoustics in :)
now JV is the first reviewer of the new ROG flow Z13 2025... nice! love it broh
Not a review but a sponsored video. Lol
I like how you presented this device. I see it as more of a 2 in 1 laptop thats gaming capable. Its not ideal for actual usage on a lap, but nobody actually uses laptops like that very often anymore lol.
This is honestly the coolest product announced at CES. I'm really interested in running LLM models for productivity and the fact you can get tons of unified RAM is just a game changer. In many cases this makes Strix Halo better than Nvidia consumer GPUs at AI. Wow.
I just bought a Lenovo Legion Go and have loved its portability. This looks like it would be a great addition for a portable setup offering a lot more than handhelds! Awesome breakdown and video!
really nicely done review, thank you Joshua!
Nice vid!
I don't think I saw expected pricing?
I've been lobbying for convertibles that didn't try being thing, thin is not a thing over performance, thin doesn't take less space in bag it doesn't take less space on desk or on lap.
I just don't want soldered ram, unless it comes with the max the cpu can support
It should've had an Oculink port for external graphics capabilities.
man I'm really hoping SOMEONE releases a laptop with the 395+ chip with oculink. I'd get that in a heartbeat.
another youtuber confirmed than asus has new 5000 series egpu which are compatiable with this tablet/laptop. Though I haven't seen any asus proprietary connector on this device. Let's see if once it's released.
@@Harami69666 they have a 2025 xg mobile with thunderbolt 5. they got rid of their proprietary connection socket. it's already on the Asus RoG site to view.
It has the extra m2 nvme port outside. plenty of options and adapters for it.
@@MicaelAzevedo Thanks man for confirmation
With attachable controllers to the side, this world kick ass
Look at the GPD Win Max 2 2025 with the HX370.
What? That's too big 😅
🤡
matte glass oled would've been my choice. 2 stick's of nvme is needed for gaming imo
God, I can't stand matte. I have no idea why anyone would prefer them.
@@420beffjezos because its better for drawing and reducing glare from intense light sources
@@420beffjezos its better for drawing...which some of us do
@@velvetvideo oh.. yeah.. that makes sense.
4:00 Wasn’t expecting to see an 8-hour Smosh Reddit Stories compilation in this video 😂
same !
That back slash looks like a nice touch
Would really wonder how a telescopic controllers setup would work and the total system power, kinda wish they put a higher Wattage battery here but I'm exciting how this form factor is going forward
Nice format
I don't understand, besides the OS ssd, is there a slot for an additional M.2 one?
nope. on the website it says you can access the ssd in the back to swap it but only 1 bay.
@TMV420 thank you
i hope they put 32gb ram varian for this new flow z13, it will be awesome for ai
Yes and more. Up to 128gb of RAM as announced by Asus during their livestream.
@paypalkro wow...time to saving money for upgrade
when you would use it as an hybrid laptop, I think 13" might just be an inch to small
It is definitely the all purpose device that most people need. However, at this price point, you should wait for one of the newer 5080 laptops.
So, I'm guessing this would be more powerful than my current ROG Zephyrus G14 with a 2060 Max-Q laptop?
I need this
What's the point of having a gaming tablet?
I like it a lot, but can't think of a single usage scenario
...Gaming on the go?
What's the point of a gaming handheld? Some people just want to play and work with a specific form factor. Not really a hard concept to understand.
Why no stylus review?
This would be a great portable video editing machine
Amazing first look. Any gaming benchmarks/ fps etc
I might actually think about buying this thing, and it's capable of running Cyberpunk at above medium settings? That's enough for me because I'll be doing medium-light gaming on this thing...iGPU has come a long way man, we eatin good.
ROG has raised the bar on how powerful tablets should be.
Hi bro, how many model for this new model? Only 1 spec?
Asus website shows 3
Hey Mate, whats The Name of Ur Glasses? Thea Look rly nice. I would buy Them too….. pls Tell me. Thx
Loved your ACRNM video ... qualitative question that shouldn't break embargo ... this or ACRNM for gaming 😅?
Price? If it’s high might aswel get a discrete gpu laptop.
$2k+
The integrated graphics is supposed to perform on par with 400 series dgpus
Isn't it a bad idea to have GPU drivers from both nV and AMD?
One would think. But I believe those drivers are inactive for the opposite teams GPU. Dormant files.
I have some question i'm Nomad.
Can we charge with same USB from rog Ally ? (For know a bit consommation électricity)
And is it quiet as a rog Ally when we play ? Or it's more like a laptop gamer ? Thanks if you answer 😊
Thanks josh for this review.
This z13 is top notch.
What do you recommand this one or the Proart px13 with rtx 4070 for editing ?
Is this display compatible with any kind of stylus?
I was curious about this as well, if it works with a stylus then this makes it so much more appealing and would actually replace my tablet for me.
Yes. Older models had issues with palm rejection though. Haven't heard if they've addressed that with the '25 refresh
frankly, I would like to see a Rog Ally version with this chip.
You wouldnt even be able to use the rog ally for more than 10 min since this chip is an 80w one
When can i buy it?
You can pre-order it now, but it's only available for shipping in the q-2 I believe
I really hope theyll bring another refresh of the X13. The Z13... I dont really care for. Its just a thick ass tablet.
really extiited about this 2-in-1 laptop! is it possible to connect a egpu with it for better performance?
I'd love some stylus support on this. Then it makes it a nobrainer to spend on this instead of a tablet from any of the other companies. It can complete replace those.
It does have stylus support. Older models struggled with palm reduction though, I havent heard anything about them fixing that for this model though
will it last for 5 years? :)
I want laptop with igpu but for gaming under 500 dollars to 600 dollars plz recommend me one
Used market
Look for something with the Radeon 780m
Performance seems great, I just wish it didn't look so gamer-y.
You didn't want a gaming tablet to look gamer-y?
It literally has "ROG" in the name.
Whatever were you expecting??
wait for the proart variant...with price jump ofc
5:23 what's the game he's playing? thx
Sifu
Good ass game fam, definitely check it out
SIFU
does the usb4 port on z13 fully support the thunderbolt 5 on the new xg mobile?
Yes.
@@andyH_EnglandUSB4 is not TB5 so no, it doesn't *fully* support it, it simply supports it.
Man, this thing with a Mint distro would be 🔥
The link to the product has been removed on Asus website ...
Love the aesthetics of the device 👌
Thanks, a lot, man.
I really wanna know how low the TDP we can set it to and the overall package power.
Watch other channels like Gamer's Nexus, LTT, Hardware Unboxed, Hardware Canucks who will properly benchmark these new AMD chips. This 395 Max and the new 9955HX3d. You can't get technicality here
@@Unicornpirate My use doesn't actually look for pure performance. I favor more on power efficiency. Like I have Steam Deck, Aokzoe A1 Pro, Legion Go, OneXPlayer X1 AMD, I actually always tried to set the TDP to the lowest and I am enjoying 40/40 or 36/144 or even 30/120 FPS/Hz ratio but at the lower TDP possible to with my acceptable graphics quality. So having more power or higher benchmark is not what I am looking for.
none of those guys will properly test it. Phawx will test it at low power and show scaling
On whisper mode I believe it goes down to 25 watts, and max 80 watts in turbo mode. Armory Crate has settings where you can set your own profile.
@ thanks.
Thanks for the video.
I'm a little sad that the xGM port is gone because the RTX 4090 laptop and the dock are super convenient for my workflow.
There will be a new eGPU, uses TB5 but I don't know if this supports that, or you simply have to use it at TB4 / USB4 speed
This is USB4 only @@yeshyk3694 The TB5 dock will be compatible, but only at USB4 speeds.
It's cool but same issue as a laptop, gotta carry a mouse or controller to game.. besides the tablet being a lot bigger than say an Ally x.
really with they had 64gb support on these. WHY NOT? It would be able to do my workflow if it could do 64gb. Imagine a tiny tablet that can do it ALL.
Upto 128gb configurable as announced by Asus during their livestream.
I understand the RAM is on the chip so having 64GB options for a small user base would make it more expensive as they would need a new production run. Having 32GB only keeps costs down. Other devices will have more RAM but they will be proportionally more expensive, similar to Apple.
Just get a GPD Win Max 2 with HX370 and 64GB DDR5 8000.
What's the price tag?
2000 usd
The keyboard should have been bleutooth, it would make a BIGGG difference.
Good for engineering programs?
Playing SIFU on mouse and keyboard is nuts lol
This us cool, Microsoft surface starts a trend and others take it to the next level... But without the Neo and Duo actually becoming a thing snd other picking them up I don't k ow what's next. Imagine this in a Neo running w12 in the future.
Es mejor que la versión ACRONYM con RTX 4070?
Qué pasó con la RTX 5090 XG Mobile?
can i get a aftermarket attachable controller anywhere?
9 inch version please.
I wish to know the videogames ñames in this clip please
battery life???
Can it run cuda?
The pricing it's the most important
this is so cool! but the price...I am too poor fot this.
oled ? x13 ?
Not OLED 😬
Haven't heard anything on x13, but maybe next year! Z13 didn't have a '24 refresh but it's back baby! 😎
@d34dpan we need oled for erryting?! Like phones..
the greatest amd product in the year
As long as i can buy a samsung galaxy tab s10 and a acer predator helios neo 16 with dedicated gpu for the same price i won't get the interest to get less in that form factor, it should cost 1000 to make sense
New AI chips coming out with the same form factor
This looks amazing, but its a thick 2 in 1 tablet. If the price for one of this is round $1000 and up, I would rather buy a decent midrange laptop with discrete gpu
few stutters there at 8:00
It's expected when its not plugged in.
No more dGPU but I wouldn't be surprised if they claimed the custom-made AMD apu is as fast as the 4070 in the last gen lol "thru the power of AI". Even a blind person can see they've always been wanting to sell the flow series with their external GPUs AND they were so nice to use Thunderbolt 5 BUT the new Z13 doesn't have this port? Do they not want us to buy their new external 5090? lol
Real disappointed they didn't upgrade to OLED. What's the point of changing from 165 hz to 180 hz lol.
In terms of pure shaders, the AMD APU is comparable to the RTX 4050 laptop. But I suspect that it is somewhere between an RTX 4060 laptop and an RTX 4070 laptop. Without a dock, the theoretical power of the 16 cores and 32 threads cannot be fully utilized. This is the issue of video editing and all that.
Keep it strictly amd@@hotaru_shotcake6738
OLED is more expensive and probably more relevant, will give significantly less battery life. Last year's model got a lot of negative press due to the terrible battery life, 4-5 hours for mixed work loads. They have increased the battery size to fix that, but OLED would counter that.
@@andyH_Englandnope your wrong ones is actually way more efficient for battery 😅
Crazy tablet
So let me get this straight: this is AMD Strix Halo, which is a combination of AMD Ryzen AI Max Plus 395 + Radeon 8060S iGPU? And that's something AMD expects to remember and pay up for? Are you serious?
On the GPU side it has 40 compute units. So pretty much desktop rtx4060/rx7600xt levels of performance which is insane for integrated graphics. It’s a beast
Cooling Specs at Peak Not at High End Games at High Performance
were you not allowed to give any performance numbers?
🔥🔥🔥
no more xgmobile?
New XG Mobile 2025 use USB 4, TB 4, and TB 5 Now, more universal
The old XG Mobile is not compatible so you will have to spend $800 on the 2025 version.
I'm never buying a larger iPad ever ever again
And you're paying $1000+ for the form factor
They always screw up the screen with this product. It needs a bright OLED to really compete at its price
WAS excited for this but No USB 4 v2.0 80gbps speed so old technology regular usb4 and they released the world's first thunderbolt 5 external graphics card. So half the bandwidth of regular usb4 40gbps why? Not good for hardcore gaming if you were going to get a external graphics card...
You guys shouldn't even be doing reviwes yet. 3 videos and not one of them can give you a real answer on the actual battery test. They just make a bs battery section and then talk about absolutely nothing. Even the good reviewers like your self. You should just stop tryna be first an give us a real review
Shit is nice but too expensive. No one wants to spend 2 grand for a 2-1 that doesn’t even have discrete graphics. I paid about 1.3k for a 2022 rog flo in 2022 and that was more reasonable.
It’s too overpriced for a device doesn’t have detected GPU
this igpu is equivalent to 4060
basically a dgpu but with better efficiency
@@asmrnaturecat984 So it shouldn’t cost $2000
Maximum $1200
@@Theboss00077 a brand new device aggressively engineered to run 4060-level graphics in a 12mm chassis and will run that class of graphics at nearly half the wattage and you think it shouldn't cost AT LEAST $2K?! please tell me who is your drug dealer cause I need some of that shit now lol.
It’s the most powerful integrated GPU ever. Equivalent to desktop RTX4060 performance so yeah it should be pricy.
Whats the weight? How noisy is it?
If only it didn't have that 14 year old gamer aesthetic. ROG should copy Valve when it comes to industrial and clean design. Just keep the republic of gamers insignia on top and have that window on the back and vents. Get rid of those dumb looking lines and words on the back.
Or, and hear me out, they can keep it because it makes their device unique. And you don't look at the back of it all day. You look at the screen. Kind of like how it's supposed to be used
as an 14 years old gamer I feel attacked by this comment
their X13 and X16 did that, so I guess Z series are intended to be "cringe-y" futuristic design.
Exactly, right? If this thing looked more like a surface, with a nice clean, silver color, I would buy it. But the hardcore gamer stuff everywhere, looks kinda edgy
They can leave this device as it is and just release a new ProArtPZ. Imagine a ProArtPZ with this or an even better screen, more IO, a stiffer metal keyboard/trackpad and a custom pen protocol to make it a true „Pro“ device. Basically a IPadPro for have the price and double the funktionality.
Last model was trash with 1hr of battery life. I hope this get at least 4hrs. Too bad the pricing is too dame high!
This is a really neat product but at $2k 😅...
price up a surface pro with snapdragon cpu and then have a think and comeback
No more nvidia like my old ROG Flow Z13 2023 has
Even if the performance is lower I'd still consider that a good thing. On mine, Nvidia keeps fighting windows for the control over the gpu so advanced optimus is not as convenient to use as they marketed to be.
No NVIDIA = OK? but no Dock = No deal for me. I have an X13 2023 the Z13 has insane issius with fast USB Devises by me.
@@hotaru_shotcake6738 well it has USB 4 so you should be able to connect a Thunderbolt dock just fine
wallet~~~~~ wallet~~~
Can someone look for my wallet? 😢
I think it ran away shy of this video.....
With this price i can build a good pc and 4050 laptop
Don't lie, Rog Ally is awful, that small screen and the reputation of burning SD memory will not erase so quickly
Well done AMD!
GPD Win Max 2 is better than both the X and Flow 13. More useful, better portability, better IO...
Basta de equipos tan costosos y no puedan meterle una pantalla oled 😢😢