The Most Powerful iGPU Ever! ROG Flow Z13 AMD Strix Halo Hands On
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- In this video, we get a first look at the all-new ASUS ROG FLOW Z13, powered by the powerful Strix Point APU.
It features the AMD Ryzen Ai Max + 395 with 16 cores and 32 threads, paired with the all-new Radeon 8060S iGPU, which boasts 40 compute units. This makes it the fastest X86 tablet we’ve ever tested, and it’s also the most powerful iGPU available on the market.
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Maaann this is the Surface Pro of my dream
Yeah but man will you pay for this crazy performance 😅
@@kirby21-xz4rxsomeone will pay for it man and i think at least it a real good performance just the price that kindda nah but if it in mini pc in like Q4 and the price not that crazy i think it will be amazing chip.
I hope they improved the keyboard design this time. It's notorious for not lasting.
the RRP will keep it in your dreams
The battery life will also be a big Naaa for me.
Never wouldve expected this kind of performance from igpus this quickly this is amazing
The power of people actually buying them aha
@@jaybee-f9xinnovation doesn't require sales first, for example Meta Orion prototype cost $10000 to produce but they didn't make it because those glasses dont even exist yet, so there's no demand
Starts at USD $1999 for the Al Max 390 with 8050S Graphics, $2199 for the Al Max+ 395 with 8060S Graphics
Technically, the GPUs in Xbox and PlayStation are considered as igpu too. It's just that they also have vram instead of system ram like in the flow z13.
This igpu is exactly the xbox series x 😊@@hyperion8382
I can't wait to get this processor in a mini computer, I think this would be just epic.
i thought there were with all the upcoming stuff from ces
It is only for laptop
Same, proper competition to a mac mini
I can almost guarantee Minisforum/GMKTEC/Beelink will all have mini PCs out with these processor by the end of Q2
@jacobm2625 that's wot I'm thinking but PC world had the piece on the skus like z2 and the guy asked about this for handhelds....
what i learned today is ETA loves this IGPU, and that he is a sociopath in cyberpunk
exactly my thoughts lol
Just going along casually slaughtering those poor souls lmao
Psychopath is proper term lol. Sociopaths aren't violent.
his doing it for the content!
@ still funny
remember back then when people searched for surface pro gaming reviews? imagine what we would have done for such a device back then. same with handheld pcs, its insane. i feel younger generation just dont get how far tech has become when i read things like “1080p, what year is this”. glad to be part of a generation that really appreciates tech advancement
Yes, 15 years ago this would have been unthinkable for the size.
But just 15 years before that PC gaming in general was a niche. Steam wasn't a thing yet and the first PlayStation had its release later that year.
Just another 10 years before that was the release year of the NES and most households didn't own a single PC.
This whole _computer_ thing is really not that old and has absolutely exploded in complexity in a very short time.
@@98ahnithat complexity will reach a plateau though, unless we can find better elements to make semiconductors from and someway to make batteries smaller
@@98ahni 40 years ago I got my first computer that had 3.5Kb of RAM and I learned to programm in BASIC.
And yeah, I played a lot on it.
@@DS-pk4eh My first PC 20 years was 64 mb RAM and pentium CPU I believe. It was STILL ABLE TO GAME. You could play a popular French MMO with 64 mb of RAM ! !!! How did things change this quickly
and yet, the office suite is still a complete slag and stutter fest when you try to format or move something on the sheet
This feels like a dream machine. Next level x86 tablet.
Starts at USD $1999 for the Al Max 390 with 8050S Graphics, $2199 for the Al Max+ 395 with 8060S Graphics
@@chinafriends well... what aternative is there? Oh right m4 max for 6000$
Starts at USD $1999 for the Al Max 390 with 8050S Graphics, $2199 for the Al Max+ 395 with 8060S Graphics
Too much coming from Asus due to their current warranty issues. I'll be watching this for sales
Call me when the price drops below $500.
@@Chris.BrissonSee you in 10 years ig
@@mannyw_ in 10 years people will be paying other people to take it lol
Can get their g14 with a 5070ti for that price lol
0:00 Intro
0:27 Overview
1:04 2-in-1
1:53 I/O and features
2:53 Specs
4:57 Armory Crate
Note that FPS is not shown in games. Seems to be desktop RTX 3050 performance.
7:15 Cyberpunk 2077
8:57 God of War Ragnarok
9:55 Forza Horizon 5
11:14 Outro
Thanks for timestamps bro❤
Well thats useless I already have the 4080 via cloud through geforce now ultimate
@@antwilder rent house vs own house 😂
@@grimreaperplayz5740 I'd agree there with you, cloud gaming naturally induces latency and worse image quality. Local gaming will always be better if you have money to afford equivalent hardware (7900XTX/4080).
@@antwilder bruh lmao geforce subscription in big 2025😹😹😹😹
The price tag of $1,999.99 is insane but I can understand why!. I know that Ryzen Z1 Extreme use a Radeon 780M (comparable to GTX 1650) and Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 use a Radeon 890M (36% faster) (comparable to GTX 1070). I discover that Rog Flow Z13 uses a Ryzen Al Max+ 395 (16 cores) with a Radeon 8060S (40CU´s), comparable to a GeForce RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti Laptop, RX 7600.
Just a reminder that ROG Ally X uses a Z1 Extreme (8 core) with a Radeon 780M (12 CU´s) and Radeon 890M (16 CU´s). This is an insane piece of tech :)
The starting price tag is the 12 core AI Max 390 (non +) CPU part. It's still a 40CU iGPU, however everything is downclocked ~100mhz and the 12 core part has less L2 cache. Same TDP from what I can find though. $2200 starts to buy you into the actual AI Max+ 395 with 32GB of RAM.
Personally I'd like to see that come with 64GB of RAM or at the least make it look like we're going to have an option inbetween the $2200 32GB 16 core tablet and the unpriced 128GB model lol. USB4v2 would have been nice as well with their 5090 eGPU coming out, but it's USB/TB and AMD so this is expected anymore.
Super nerds
that is not bad price if the thing manages some hours on battery.....
@@williammoore7978390 is a 32 core GPU, take a look at the official slides during the keynote. It's unfortunate that leakers were wrong - only 395 has 40 CU.
@@NighthunterNyx smaller battery than an Ally X and runs way more than up to 35 watts. There could be some black magic going on, but for gaming away from an outlet probably not gonna be great. I think they've said the charging brick is 200 watts so figure the entire tablets system draw is probably somewhere in the 100-ish watt range if you're in turbo and going nuts on it and the charger would still have enough overhead to charge while gaming. Day to day use though it might not be too bad.
The future is here! Just imagine this kind of APU even few years ago.
So…. the future is two years ahead, not here 🤣😂🤣😂
I mean, it is an improvement but not mind blowing.
Keep in mind consoles are APUs too. And they are much more powerful than this.
@@Patrick-y4d1zand they are also much larger and designed for very specific software. also, they're not much more powerful than this... at all. ps5 pro is more powerful but not by a large margin.
@@Patrick-y4d1z the ps5 is not much more powerfull than this so yeah, very impressive, they are actually about the same, not the pro of course, that one is considerable faster.
Hate to say it, but this still isn't as powerful as the last gen apple silicon GPU which has been out for a few years
I would like to see this compared to 2024 version of the Z13 with the 4060 discrete graphics. Better graphics? Better battery? lighter tablet? How is 2025 iGPU Z13 better than the 2024 Z13 4060.
following....
If you find this comparison please let me know because the 2024 model had very poor battery life
@@yountune9799 my guess would probably be that discreet gpu is better, but at the cost of more power consumption, and you can't probably run it off the charger that often. Also idk if it applies to the specific model you're talking about, but some gpu straight up cap the power once you remove the charger
@@yountune9799 nobody knows yet, they arent allowed to run benchmarks and stuff yet
And there is a 4070 version too.
This is my dream computer!! One device for everything, gaming, movies, drawing, and Ebooks.
Does it have a good screen for drawing??
@@86lanzohigh refresh rate so I would guess so
I have a 2022 version, and in practice it feels to heavy as a tablet for reading
I can't wait for this iGPU to be included in handheld gaming, maybe the lowered power one, but still it's the jump needed from Z1 extreme to comfortably play AAA on handheld.
idk if it will, the lowest end TDP range for Strix Halo is 55w, it would be really hard to cool in handhelds. We're probably 2 generations away from the same performance at 10-25w
@@cipher.u.justice Yeah, bummer, my irk is that handheld trying to up the resolution before gpu compute does. Z2 extreme feels like just your usual generation improvement (although still need to wait for real benchmark), I guess the real deal would be the next iteration (Z3 Extreme).
Really glad to see ASUS continue to improve and develop this product over the years. I'd love this with the external GPU to replace my laptop/desktop combo at home.
To be 100% perfect sadly it doesn't have 80gbps Thunderbolt 5 to use with eGPU.
@@arseniyshapurov USB 4
Such a device in combination with an eGPU (without compromises) is truly a dream. Can hardly wait for it.
I love my Minisforum V3, but the Z13 really gets me excited for my next gaming tablet.
The think the big problem is going to be the price, with the new halo chips. When you can get a zephyrus 14 with a real 4060 for half the price as this. And those pretty small. If they can jam these halo chips inside a mini pc for like $600-700 . That would be pretty slick tho.
lmao you can't find ANY strix chips in a mini pc for that price yet let alone halo
@wheezel55 oh, i know. That was my point. These chips are way too expensive for what they are. Im just saying if they could eventually hit that 6-700 price point, it would make more sense
Huh? I thought everyone knew integrated graphics cost more? 😅
@@fuzzymuppet1990 600-700 price point for Strix Halo?
I think any cost they could cut they should with this chip, even like you said about just putting it in a box and saving the cost of screen and keyboard and mouse. i think people would more likely pick this up 1000-1500
I have never once been excited, let alone this excited for an iGPU
Put this in a steam machine
@@ranjitmandal1612 Yes
@@ranjitmandal1612 Yes 😂
As it should
a steam box console-like will target living room gaming. That means that you should target 4k gaming in some way. A 1080p box is already outdated
@@vahn_of_the_art 4k gaming is just not a thing, check the stats only 20-25% of consumers even have a 4k TV, sony nvidia and xbox just love pushing 4k and AI because it is good for investors and marketing. Also there is not a single device than can run 4k gaming at max settings with more than 30 fps so that also proves my point.
Does not take much to prove my point, at max settings 4k a 5090 can't run at more than 30 fps on Cyberpunk without using AI frame generation which adds a ton of latency it goes up from 30-35 up to 65-70 and that is the latest GPU for PC gaming so please don't start speaking about consoles that came out 4-5 years ago 😭 as much as you would like to they aint doing 4k gaming, no one is.
Would be great to see some VR performance running on this APU.
Depends on what you mean by VR performance. Beat saber or Half life Alyx? Vanilla VR games or modded flat games? Modern titles or older ones?
VR won’t be great
@@deluge6479 specifically flight simulator 2024 and DCS world in VR, i have a feeling the 128GB RAM version might run better than the 32GB version.
I was just binge watching Flow Z13 videos and the man himself uploads one
Yeah me too. Been doing that since yesterday lol.
Same!
I swear I want one just as an everyday Linux tablet! I don't play games but AMD is better supported on Linux and this just seems like a great solution for any Linux enthusiast.
Linux ❤
Use wel
I'd look into the OneXPlayer X1 or Minisforum V3. They both cost much less and both have AMD APUs.
Well ETA, I am jealous on you. But also thankful that you showed us this. Can't wait to put my hands on this chip.
To be faster than a 4050 it should be at 25w. With these specs, it should be close to a 4060ti desktop at max power
Nah the desktop or even laptop versions of dedicated gpus are fast since they have their own memory and power controllers.
Memory bandwidth is the main issue holding AMD iGPU's back (hence the 8k MT/s RAM). Something like DDR6 would be immensely beneficial.
@@vinyfiny true but didnt they introduce quad channel or sth like that for more bandwidth at the ces event
@@abdelrahmanhany3379 still not enough , 256gbs bandwidth is not enough for 40CUs
Yeah memory bandwidth is the biggest problem. I think AMD tout a maximum bandwidth of 256 GB/s at quad channel. I think at best it would be close to (-5% to +5%) of a 7600xt at full tilt
So thats the best tablet ever created now? Crazy. Ipad kids will be begging for this fr😭🙏
A 9950x on mobile at 55W is very impresive.
8:33 finally you broke the character 😂😅
I have the previous 2024 model and tried to claim warranty on it and was rejected. I had a faulty battery and they refuse to honor it for a new battery.
This is what i worry about the most with Asus anymore
My 2021 g14 was out of warranty, started an RMA, they estimated the repair to cost $1300. I literally flew to another country, got it repaired there, and cost me 6x less in total.
Asus are jerks.
I’m glad someone in this comment section understands the things consumers should be worried about when purchasing devices like this. It’s not about RGB, it’s not about frames per second, it really is about the overall customer experience and this is where ASUS consistently falls short
I hope this armory crate design becomes the standard for old Asus laptops too. Looks much better.
I'm interested in the keyboard, every Z13 in the past has had junk keyboard that break in a year, its a massive problem for these
love to see the pc handheld brands such as GPD and Ayaneo try to implement this APU
Beautiful console but 2k dollars is very expensive
Yeah we can get laptop with 4070 or 4080 with that much money
Form factor.
It's not a console....
It is not a gaming device. it is small workstation. That you can game on also. But you would use it for 3D design and things like that.
@@mariesvilmy5680 yes, but how big are those? This is for people that need to be highly mobile and mainly use it as a workstation that can also game really well. I'm currently using a 14in ultraportable for this exact reason. Plus you can just plug it in under a tv, hook up a controller, steam big picture, and bam, there's your steam machine
man, love it the thickness feels like a rugged and durable device!
Given how the previous ROG Flow had the proprietary XG port for the Asus egpu and which has been replaced by Thunderbolt 5 for the 2025 version with the RTX 5090, it baffles me that Asus did not think about including a TB5 port on this new Flow
I believe thunderbolt and XG has a intel copyright/ royalty attached to it. AMD boards from asrock were using some off brand thunderbolt/ usb controler chipset to give that functionality.
The new ex mobile from ROG uses a thunderbolt 5 interface but supports thunderbolt 4/ Usb4 40gbit the latter of which this device has. Also AMD chipsets don't support the thunderbolt standard
Strix Halo is crazy! Amazing! Unbelievable!
When does the embargo lift?
There is no embargo...
@@deluge6479what about the Lumbargo?
Really looking forward to this APU's performance numbers! Love to see this head to head with a DGPU with 40 CUs and see how well it does in relation to it.
I hope one of the handheld PC makers go nuts and sticks this in a handheld.
Love the competition in the handheld field finally!! I'm buying a claw ai 8 i love the ai feature and low tdp of 7 for streaming from desktop and havibg power to play lesser demaning games at high fps at 1200p and a large battery sucks 2230 but i can live with 2tb windows and intel intel driver support is amazing and has long term support.
What AI feature and where do you live that Intel driver support is amazing?!?!
@ look at history boss but the ai features throttles tdp depending on what your doing so you can reach as low as 7tdp vs min on legion go is 15 -35
I'm anticipating this AI MAX+ 395 APU for like 2 years, so the moment it'll be available here in the EU I'll go out and buy it!
I would like to have this processor in my Legion GO 😁
Now i can't wait until it comes to the handheld pc's, this will dominate in that use case.
This would’ve been my perfect travel gaming/video editing tablet but it’s stuck with a 2230 SSD! Why couldn’t Asus given us more room to install a full size 2280?!?? Ally X has 2280 support why can't this???
16 inch variant would be really nice with 2280
The ally has 2280? Had no idea
@AstroBot-bc0213 yep, I upgraded my Ally X to 4TB SSD!
@AstroBot-bc0213only ally x, ally requires a adapter
@@TVCHLORD Was able to install WD_Black Gen4 SN850X without any kind of adapter and runs perfectly.
RDNA 4 or 4.5 with optimized drivers, FSR 4 and FG2, i can't wait for it.
ETA, could you test it with a Linux based OS? 🙏
No
Agreed! Arch most likely will be the best for now
This looks awesome! I want this APU / iGPU. I will be waiting for your full review.
2:36 tasteful!? I wish Asus and others would stop pushing this gamer aesthetic. Not all of us are 14 year old kids, and I am not even sure these kids like these designs. How come only so few companies (like Nvidia with the founders editions) know how to do an actual tasteful design...
I just CAN'T WAIT to see this in a thin & light laptop!
There's finally going to be reasonably portable laptops that can game.
Imagine this on a Handheld, I know few years coming it is going to be possible
These draw some serious power for mobile, so will be quite some time before we get this performance in a handheld. Still, very impressive stuff
forget that, you already know they're trying to figure out how to put these into phones. at some point, you will only need one single device to do everything.
Closest would be the onexfly x pro
This is the Surface Pro that always wanted, a powerful and compact device ideal for traveling, for sure this won’t gonna freeze working on Architectural 3D design, modeling and rendering, the only thing I’m afraid of is the price
My warranty on this device(the rtx3050 version) got rejected. Something to consider if you are thinking of purchasing one of these in future
Warranty and Asus seems like a joke, so it's hard to get too excited
been using a ryzen 7 4750G and its been great both cou and igpu and holy cow integrated graphics has come a long way
With 40 CUs, basically PS5 level performance. Would only be limited by memory bandwidth.
Limited by power too, this APU only goes up to 120W.
Series X all the ftw!
80 max tdp from the other review
This has gone on my must buy list…
@ETA PRIME you have influence in the industry, please make that clear. Nothing like this will work without Thunderbolt 5 or USB 4 80-120GB or a better Oculink interface. This is elementary for eGPU connections. You are one of the first to introduce something like this to the masses, please support it.
Really happy to finally see 1080p Extreme Ray Tracing without a dedicated video card!
I want that ai max+ 395 processor in a 8 inch console like lenovo legion go or asus rog ally
First thing you should do is download a g-helper and turn off a CPU boost. Zero difference at least in games but huge difference in temperatures and battery life.
And yes, you can use Asus Rog metrics option from the armory crate meny to show all basic metrics on screen
wtf is an ROG nebula display... if it's LCD trash just say it's LCD trash
It's LCD trash
Calm down buddy
Yep 😂😂😂
chill bro, it won't burn in like the trash OLED
@@cosmicreaverkassadin1143 never had an OLED burn in on me quit yapping
I'm eager to see what AMD has prepared for us. This one is looking promising already.
It would be perfect if I could put Linux
You probably can.
@@MathiewMay I know which is incredible
😮
I can't wait to see those benchmark👍
Unless I see the word OLED it's an instant pass. It's 2025.
Lol that's like saying you need 4k how pathetic your wittle eyes can't see 500 nits? 😢😂😂😂
I agree with you on that completely. However, if that’s the only one of very few downsides of this device, I can let the NO OLED screen slide as long as they put a good quality IPS screen like they did for the ROG ALLY.
And when they add it, no one buys it because it's too expensive 🤦
@beforedeth2104 that's dumb. Resolution and display technology are not comparable. OLED is far superior to LCD regardless what the rest of the spec sheet says.
Because of PWM? I have a headache and eyestrain on many of OLED screens like Samsung, Sony smartphones. Didn't try iPhone but I heard it has high PWM %.
The only OLED I have no problem are Chinese phones like Huawei, Honor, One+, Vivo, because they have DC Dimming / really low PWM like 5-10% on minimum brightness.
Gaming in a lightweight notebook with great battery life is a dream.
Almost perfect. 1600p on that 13" is stupid tho for the performance.
Going for a 1200p screen would have allowed it to run EVERYTHING at native res / high framerate
Exactly my thoughts, or even 1080p for better performance and battery life.
AMD Creating good cpus: 🙂
AMD Creating good apus: 🙂
AMD Creating good gpus: 🥲
Price tag of $2000 is a joke , kills the original purpose of igpu replacing dedicated gpus
I built a pc with i5 + rx 6600 at $600 , same as this igpu performance
I dont know what tech giants are doing, charging insanely more for revolutionary less manufacturing cost chip , and charging pennies for bulky raw hardware that costed much more in manufacturing (gpus)
The purpose of Igpu is low power consumption that makes suitable for portable pc. Don't compare it to your desktop setup as they burn way more watts. The electricity bill alone will catch up to that price point eventually.
@jackykwan2580 the build i made is very carefully considering the power consumption, and my pc dont even draw 40 w when idle (ms office, teams, browser, programming etc) , and 100-150w in gaming (totally depends on game load), which is impressive power efficiency , it will barely add up to bills considering i only play 2 hours game on daily. Amd rx 6000 series gpu is actually impressive in power efficiency, whereas the 12th gen intel cpu is impressive in its own league of power efficiency.
The bill i got increased meagerly. It would take 20 years to lvl up the costs of that new igp with the increased bill 😂
Therefore it would be a stupid decision to buy such a costly mini pc , only unless you really have a ton of money
I believe AMD made this not for gamers but content creators or artists who have to be outdoor often without a power source. Gamers dont need iGPU seriously
@@jackykwan2580 they can get a reasonable power bank in much less, (which will make it go longer than these new igpu laptops), and carry a low cost gpu laptop with rx 7600 or rtx 4060. Therefore, the $2000 cost is still avoidable by anyone, it simply is pointless
$1000 could make sense, which would still get competition. But $2000 is simply a far cry
@@jackykwan2580 just watch it, they manufactured a good thing after all , and it will take time before the masses take benefit from it
Out of all the reviewers with new AMD and NVIDIA techs, laptops etc.
This guy with this video takes the cake.
I've been considering picking up a 13th gen Z13 for quite a while, and it looked like that was going to be the last one, especially considering the launch of the PZ13.. But now they have come out with this, definitely something to consider!
This looks beyond amazing as a portable gaming machine and all-around laptop. Considering how expensive it will be (especially for us Canadians), the battery life is the deal-breaker so i will wait and see how it does in that department.
Starts at USD $1999 for the Al Max 390 with 8050S Graphics, $2199 for the Al Max+ 395 with 8060S Graphics
@ that’s going to translate to $3k CAD 😐
Everyone talking about the gaming performance and the Gpu but everyone forgot about the SIXTEEN ZEN 5 CORES. Those are huge. Basically a laptop 9950x cpu in that thing. Wild.
This thing is probably a workstation monster.
Thanks for the preview. Really expecting the Battery test as it was one of the biggest flaws of the previous model
Impressive performance for an excruciating entry price.
Like most things you get to test out they're things I might consider in a few years.
I'll take this processor in a laptop, thank you 😁
Need this in a Rog Ally and it’s a wrap.
This GPU in a next PC handheld. 😍
I’d love to see a mini PC running this APU
It really is amazing and I’m going to 100% buy it as soon as Its available. I need it for work , gaming and sometimes I edit some photos. Wish there was a 15 or 16 inch version.
My dream Next gen Surface Book))
Thank you 😁 for the awesome reviews and keep rocking the channel ❤and I'm sold.. when is the Asus Flow Z13 2025 model is coming out. I live in Canada Ontario and Asus did a cool technology thing for a powerful Gaming Device
Hype for ROG Flow X16!
this is what i really looking forrrr thanks great information
Excited for this chip to come to normal ass laptops. Just looking for a thin and light I can game a little on.
This APU is the most interesting thing I've seen so far from CES.
I never would have thought that something like a surface pro could ever have hardware good enough to even play any games at all. Man hardware has really exponentially come a long way. Can't imagine what this landscape will look like in another 5-10 years from now. I'm imagining it might end up making headsets with far fewer peripheral needs the new norm, but who knows. Like, slim and light headsets or even glasses, with built-in ray tracing or something. Neuromancer type shi
Would you say its faster than a RTX3060 100w?
Since NVIDIA android tablet I’ve been waiting for something similar to that for so long. I just hope the price is reasonable. If not then ill just stick to my laptop and pc
It's ~$2000
Since AMD is able to produce good CPUs and GPUs, this is a great chance for them to use that technology together and come up with the best iGPU beating competition like Intel, Snapdragon and NVIDIA
Love how the Racing Game looks Beautiful 😍
Damn I was managing not to be tempted to upgrade from my 2022 Z13 but now I really want it.
let me know when mini pc's start using these, that's when the fun begins.
Now, can we do basic video editing in applications such as DaVinci Resolve on this? That would be incredible.
Nice! It's like a ROG Ally and a Surface pro had a baby.
Cant wait for the previous z13 w/4050 to go on a bigger sale, with this new version coming soon.
Man...I hope they make a desktop AM5 version of this APU...that ITX build is going to be insane
if this thing can manage more than 8 hours in tablet mode for drawing and notes it is a must have for me
I'm really looking forward to HP's mini-workstation. It looks like my new TV PC setup. Please review that one when it comes out!
That IGPU's is insane! 😮
I wanted to have a minimalist setup so I wanted to replace my desktop with a handheld pc or steam deck, but I noticed a lot of flaws with them like the small screen, loud fan, or poor battery life. So, I decided to go with the original z13 with the i9 processor. Bought a special stand that props it up like a monitor, used U-shaped usb-c adapters to hide the cables and I have a usb-c to hdmi adapter to run a super long hdmi cable around my room and into my bed where I have a tablet stand with a portable monitor setup so I can play everything in bed. It also has a HDMI switch connected to a projector so I can play all my games on my wall. It's AMAZING.
So, for heavy games I just use the z13 and for anything portable I just use the retroid pocket since the battery life on android handhelds are actually useable and last like 5 to 10 hours AND they're basically silent too.
I can't wait for the Mini PC companies to start rolling out machines with this APU. Overall I am impressed with the iGPU on this APU.
NEED THIS NOW!
I daily drive a Surface Pro 7. Wish it had a little more power for gaming when I'm out and about. I've been looking at the older Flow Z13's for a while and was waiting for a refresh. I think this is going to be a guaranteed sell to me.