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@@richardnottelmann58”crooked?” Why? How? I mean, I hope they discuss his virulent racism and antisemitism at the house, but restoring an architecturally significant home is always an interesting project.
Gents, I'm looking forward to the show about the dedicated snow tire compared to the Three Peak Mountain tires. There is obviously a difference between the thrill of actually driving and computer aided/controlled driving.
Had these on a Volvo XC70, it was fantastic on-road and even better off-road. Did around 4000ft of vertical climbing on a 2 mile switchback trail with 6" rock ledges and lots of loose, flat rock no problem. Never tried them in the snow, sold the car (due to terrible gas mileage + high used car prices) before the season. Another terrific and similar tire is the Pirelli WeatherActive, which I have on the replacement car.
I put these same exact tires on my 2016 Toyota Camry SE 4cyl with a 2" lift and love them! I'm in Kingman AZ and these tires are great in the winter. We had 10" of snow in March, lots of monsoons and these tires perform well while keeping the same OEM tire size.
Bonjour André and Roman. Here in the province of Québec, all passenger vehicules registered in our province must have winter tires on from december 1st. to march 15th. It's been this way since 2008. Makes a lot of sense and it's much safer for everyone on the road. I have Nokian Nordman 9 on my 2023 Chevy Bolt. Greetings from Montréal, Québec. 🖖
LOVED my Falken Wildpeak AT3 tires on my 2017 Discovery HSE. In the mountains of Colorado and some really dense deep snow 6/7+ inches up mountain passes in "SNOW" mode I never felt that I was ever going to get stuck. They were also fantastic off road and on the trail in all sorts of situations. I put about 35,000 miles on them before having to get rid of the Disco for engine issues. I would buy the tires again 100%
I'm super impressed with my Michelin Crossclimate 2 tires on my Honda Accord. They are great year round tires that can handle some snow! Last winter in 8" of snow my Ford Eacape FWD work car couldn't get out of my driveway the Honda drove around without any trouble.
The cross climate 2s perform mid pack across dedicated winter tires. It’s crazy how well they perform in snow. Wet handling isn’t the best which is all I really get in Michigan winters now. Hankook kinergy are better value and a bit more evenly balanced.
@@stronghold07ptx85 I'm north of Seattle Washington and in the last year the Crossclimate 2's have been great in the rain. Way better than the Continental tires I had before.
@@stronghold07ptx85the CC are the best tires I’ve ever had for hydroplaning resistance but they could have a touch better lateral handling grip in the rain but still very good
All I can say is do your research. There can be very large gaps in performance depending on the tire. The best winter tires perform nearly as well as a good studded tire and better than a cheap studded tire. The 3pms going on all season and all terrains makes me view them as entry level snow traction, but they wont nearly match a Bridgestone, Michelin, Nokian dedicated winter tire.
Mastercraft Glacier Grip 2 work very well. Took me everywhere in the snow with a 2 wheel drive jeep patriot. Did well in the summer in Phoenix for a couple of weeks. Didn't pop like these said some snow tires do.
When I was growing up in 80s, snow in our part would fall from November to March and often it would be up to 15 inches, so many prefered very cheap "snow" tires because even cheap tires could provide excellent grip over high snow. In past decade, we have snow mainly from Feb - April, in many cases it lasts few days and you have more issues with slush, ice, black ice, even water, so tires like Continental T870, or Michelin Alpine 6 have more value even though they are not that great when there is "deep" snow.
I was very impressed with my Wild Peak A/T trails on my Rogue Sport AWD, especially in thunderstorms. Living in New Hampshire however and doing a lot of snowboarding has led me to the Ice-x snow from Michelin for winter. Looking forward driving through some good snow!
The Falken tires shown here didn't pass as acceptable in any Swedish tire tests. This type of tire are standard winter tires in continental Europe, but useless in Sweden, Norway and Finland, where a majority uses studded tires during winter or uses special Nordic winter tires, that are superior in lower temperatures. Anyone driving in snow or ice should use studded tires. The best nordic winter tires in test 2023 is Continental Vikingcontact 7, and the best studded tire is Michelin X-ice North 4. P.s winter tires are required by law between 1.dec. and 1.april in Sweden, Norway and Finland.
in southern Sweden we get by on standard Winter tires no need for studs we even use all season Tires with the three peak symbol eg Continental all season contact or Michelin cross climates very few use studded tires in the North I know this because I grew up in Åre. I personally use all seasons from 1st December never had any issues even when we do get deep snow which is rare.
@@Azureecosse hejsan. Jag bor själv i Blekinge. Alla mina grannar köra konsekvent på dubbdäck. Jag själv har altid bara kört på vanliga vinterdäck, men har i år köpt "nordiske " vinterdäck. Jag tror enda skillnaden är temperatur känsligheten. Det är överraskande att du säger dubbdäck inte är så nyttjad i norra Sverige. Jag har varit mycket i norra Sverige, men aldrig på vinteren. Jag gissar det är för att man inte nyttja salt på vägarna däruppe, men jag tänker fortfarande att om dubbdäck borde nyttjas någonstans borde det vara på all isen i norr!?. Varför alla mina grannar köra på dubbdäck i Blekinge, kan bero på att det alla är gamla bönder. Men när jag tittar på begagnade bilar har flertalet fortfarande dubbdäck medföljande som vinterdäck, så det kan inte vara så ovanligt ändå. Jag fick även dubbdäck medföljande den senaste bil jag har köpt och den har aldrig lämnat Stockholm. 😀
I spent 20 years in Oregon and Washington state for college and then my career. I lived in Corvallis Oregon for 5, Portland Oregon for 10 years and then Yakima Washington for 5. We got a lot of ice in Oregon so many people would choose studded tires for the ice days and give up wet traction. All the libtards in Portland and Seattle figured the damage from metal studs was costing too much so they went to plastic and then from what I heard from friends they outlawed all studs and went to stud less winter tires. I don’t have much need for winter tires here in Honolulu Hawai’i. I have heard that several European countries require dedicated snow tires in the winter (had Danish & Swedish friends on the Uni’s volleyball team tell me that).
@@J.Young808 I wouldn't mind being in Honululu right now. I am danish but live in southern Sweden and it is cooold at the moment. Studded tires are not legal in Denmark and there's no law requirement for winter tires there unlike Sweden, Norway and Finland. But most people do use wintertires even if it's not required by law. I have always just had a set of summer tires and a set of winter tires, but I have also invested in a third set of studded wintertires, because even though most highways and cities are effectively cleared and salted, there are periods now and again with alot of ice and worst of all : black ice, and that's when I want studded tires. On youtube there's alot of videos with Americans skating into each other with their cars as though they drove on ice with slick tires. It's moments like that, I asked myself why ! They obviously live in a cold state, so why aren't they prepared. It's entertaining and tragically stupid at the same time.
Did Discount Tire perform a relearn with a TPMS scan tool? If not that's why the TPMS light is on. You can't just stick new sensors in a wheel and expect them to sync to the vehicle, has to be "relearned". Some sensors have stock programming that works with different vehicles - still requires a relearn to be done. Some sensors required to be programmed FOR the vehicle and then a relearn to program them TO the vehicle.
While it's not part of the official rules for earning a 3 peak mountain snowflake, I do believe that most of these "all weather" tires do in fact have the softer rubber compound that allows better grip during colder months. As soft as a dedicated winter tire? No, obviously not. But softer than a traditional "all season?" Yes. What's interesting to me about an All Terrain tire bearing the 3PMS designation is that an off road tire's design with widely spaced lugs and tread patterns meant for clearing mud, is directly at odds with how a traditional snow tire works. Namely a snow tire wants snow to collect between the treads because, as I learned from a Bridgestone tire engineer and my years of making snowmen, snow sticks to snow, increasing grip!
Have been running Nokian WRG2, then WRG3, then Michelin CrossClimate SUV and now Nitto Nomad Grapplers in XL, V-speed and 3PMSF since 2014 on my Pilot up here in Minnesota. The Michelins were impressive in terms of both winter traction and summer handling. Trying the Nittos now for some extra grip and puncture resistance when going off the beaten path.
Looking at the TPMS problem you're having, I have a good feeling those aftermarket sensors were programmed in the wrong frequency and protocol. To find the right frequency, almost every TPMS diagnostic and relearn tool feature a Remote Keyless Entry & Radio Frequency monitor to identify the correct frequency. As a mechanic, that's where I start before doing any TPMS service.
I have the cooper discoverer at3 4s with that 3 peek rating they are amazing in snow and in ever offroad trail I've done including deep mud rocks rain on trails over slick rocks in the north east and had no issues
I did alot of research and came to the same conclusion as you, and based on reviews on tire rack cooper discoverer at3 4s had the highest rating in winter. And I switched for Hankook dynapro at tires and its a world of difference.
Andre hooning around had me reminiscing to my misspent youth. 1974 Plymouth Valiant w/a slant 6 and all season-ish tires on snow in South Dakota. Car control training ground in the winter.
It does not matter how old men are. Let it snow, give them a car and they will be happy. Waiting also for some snow. Got new Hankooks Kinergy 4S2 H750.
I’ve got the Falken AT Trail for summer and Nokian R5’s for winter on our Ascent. There is a big difference for sure. Mainly in turns, braking, packed snow and cold temps since they stay pliable.
I find it so much easier to drive with tractor control off in the snow because it allows me to feel in control of the vehicle and not the vehicle in control of me.
For all intents and purposes, any tire with the "3 peak snowflake" is legally considered a winter tire. (It's not as good per se) but considered as such for insurance companies. At least here. I'm not sure if they would exempt you from having to chain up in mountain passes. And yes they are absolutely rated for turning and braking and are a softer compound. They do fall short on ice however but are still better than any all season.
Next time try researching a little before you comment. The 3PMSF rating has nothing to do with turning or breaking, nor does it mean the tire has a softer compound.
@tyeetamer actually you are wrong look at the US and candadian standards then look up those standards with the 3 peak mountain on them they exceed and beat govt regulations every time. And yes they do help in tracking and turning. So you need to do your research!
I would love to see a head to head test for the Michelin CrossClimate2's against the Bridgestone WeatherPeak's. I have the CrossClimate2's on my 18' Camry Hybrid and they are outstanding tires. The best tires I've ever owned by far. But they killed the gas mileage on my hybrid, so I would like to see how the WeatherPeaks compare for when they finally wear out. (53k, 7/10th's tread left!) For some reason, nobody has done a test with these two tires together in it. You can be the first! 😃 Hope you bite! 😁
I second this, the CC2 tires are phenomenal in the snow. I have them on my '11 Impreza and love them. The big difference between the Falken tires features in this video and CC2 tires is that CC2 specializes in snow driving and the Falkens specialize in offroad driving. CC2's have a different compound that works well in the warm and cold. Engineering Explained has a great video on them explaining how it all works.
@@cory-6439did you notice any significant decrease in gas mileage with the CC2’s as the above poster did? Considering them with my ‘24 Impreza RS when the original Yokohamas start wearing out. Thanks
@@tpolerex7282 Honestly there wasn't a huge difference when talking about an Impreza. Maybe like 1or 2 mpg. The above poster mentioned the car being a hybrid. Hybrids often times put very fuel efficient tires in order to maximize numbers. Where as Imprezas were never all that fuel efficient to begin with so it has little effect.
My suspicion is who they test will largely depend on who donates tires for the test. That would be alot cheaper than buying them. Although Roman may surprise me and buy one set if he think the video's will pay enough.
I can attest to the wildpeak trail tires...had them on my Grand Cherokee. No complaints. But I just got new AT3Ws on my Z71 yesterday from Discount Tire....same issue with my TPMS.
I'm on my 9th Subaru and my 6th Outback. Had lots of tires over the years, some were terrible (Maxxis, Bridgestone Ecopia, Sumitomo anything), some were great (Potenza, Yokohama), still others were good but with too many tradeoffs to be worth it overall (looking at you BFG KO2). I've never enjoyed driving my Subies as much as when they have Falken Wildpeaks on them, specifically the A/T Trail. Well over 125k miles with three full sets, currently on my fourth and fifth sets on our two Outbacks. The magic with these tires is to switch to a lighter/smaller wheel combo that nets an overall weight savings, or at least keeps it at the same total. Plus the slightly higher sidewall keeps things quiet and better on rough roads. They're plenty stiff and don't flop around or get noisy with spirited driving. In a word: planted These tires do it all, but are especially sticky in the wet and slippery conditions, not to mention almost immune to hydroplaning. Can't say enough good things about Falken Wildpeaks, they're a match made in heaven when you need to go places other than pavement (or in less than ideal conditions) but don't want to regret driving on pavement to get there. Wish they made a set for my Expedition, but maybe that's why I don't drive it as much.
Have had quite a few tires on my SUV's over the years. I had Interco Truxxus STX on our Blazer and they were great in mud, but snow and wet roads not so much. They were also very loud. We had Pirelli Scorpion AT+ on our FWD Escape and they were great not only in rain and snow but pretty good in mud. I think they were 3 peak rated. We originally had General Grabber AT+ on our 4Runner also good on road, rain and snow. Maybe not quite as good as the Pirelli's. We switched to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT's and they are surprisingly good on road, in rain and snow for an agressive off-road tire. Amazing in mud and trails. Dry on road and highway performance did suffer a bit. They are also 3 peak rated. Have heard good reviews of the Wildpeaks. They do seem to work well on the Range Rover.
Kudos to you guys for actually looking up the meaning behind the 3peak snowflake ratings. It really means very little as you can see. I think it tricks most people when selecting tires into thinking their 3peak tire is good in winter. Need more reviews calling this out.
Nokian Outpost APT and or AT are the only true 3 peak that I trust. On snow they are absolute monsters - even better than many dedicated winter tires in snow. On ice they are not the greatest but still surprisingly decent.
"Hey, honey, I have to go to work today." "But it's snowing outside" "Exactly!!" *goes skidding around in the snow talking about tires. Best day at work this year :)
I have these on my Subaru Forester, the same tires you tried out. They’re not good in compacted snow or ice. But they are good for wet and dry or less than 3 inches of fresh snow.
Roman, please let Andre finish what he’s saying before cutting him off or going “Right right right”. You may know what he’s explaining but us listening from home may not. 10:48 talking about traction control for example
These are designed to be pretty good at everything, so I wouldn’t expect stellar results in any particular area but on the face of it they looked good with quite aggressive driving on your LWB Range Rover. Did you try Grass, Gravel, Snow and low Traction Launch as well as Auto Terrain Response?
With my experience all tires have different pros and cons, haven’t found a “do it all” tire I have found. Example my Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac was very good in winter conditions than BFG KO2 and Falken Wildpeak AT3W. But for offroad traction BFG KO2 was better. I wonder how BFG KO3 would be. Now I’m trying Toyo Open Country AT3. For anyone asking why not dedicated winter tires? Here in CO temperature fluctuate A LOT. So for me now worth the trouble of changing tires very often. Else I would melt the dedicated snow tires like Roman said. Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac LTs are also studable if anyone want to go that route.
Of course not being an insider I can't say for sure,but I suspect this class of tires is made with the weather conditions you described in mind. It seems to me like they would be the best compromise possible so if you have to get out you can. But then again I'm abit of a fan of the Jack of all Trades concept,even if it means none can be mastered. For most folks being able to do everything in safety is probably better than being a Master at any one thing but unable to do anything else.
@@Jeff-ib7wc that's good to know. I havn't had a chance to test the OC AT3s on a good trail. (New born, so no offroading for a while). On pavement in winter conditions they were pretty good.
Finally a proper explanation of the 3 peak mountain snow rated tire with an explanation of the difference between winter tires also. Most reviewers focus only on how well that tire type works without comparing tire types. If more people understand this I'll see less 4X4 trucks in ditches in places with cold winter if they get real winter tires. People that buy big 3 peak mountain snow rated tires think they have the best tire for all conditions. Simply not true when you drive in colder harsher winter with more ice and hard packed snow.
Using 4hi not only gets you moving forward much easier, also decreases brake distance. I use 4hi in the snow ❄️ all the time. Do not exceed 100 kph or 60 mph in 4 hi.
Falken tires ? Try using a better quality winter tire that helps with acceleration. Stopping and handling in all winter weather conditions..falken is one of the lowest end winter tires. My favorites. Blizzak. Xice . Hakkapalita. And ipike
A down side to stability control. Try finding a 20% grade to go up. You will never make it in control mode. Now take off control. Stop in the middle of that hill. Then take off with a lot of pedal. You will crawl right up that hill. If it is front wheel drive, forget it, wait til it melts.
The 3PMSF tyres are very common in Europe. Two of my UK-based cars run Michelin Cross Climates with this rating all year round. They have to drive 600 miles to get to the mountains so they’re obviously a compromise, but a pretty good one. On my Volvo V90 Cross Coutry B5D I get about 45mpg (UK) on a long, fast journey. And in two winters, I have never been stranded. My car that lives permanently in the Alps (another V90 CC) wears more extreme Michelin Alpins all year round - but I really cannot detect how they are better in heavy snow or hard pack.
The ending brought to mind the old saying......... "The only difference between men and boys is the expense of their toys" LOL Hope all of you have a Merry Christmas
Guys, when you do your 3pmsf vs. winter tire video, do you think you could also compare studless winter tires against studded ones? Ive seen lots of different tire and traction aid comparison videos for winter driving, but somehow it seems nobody has done one comparing studded and studless tires!
I’ve used budget winter tyres and 3PMSF all weather (Vredestein quatrac) in snow. The all weathers were better. If I lived in Scandinavia or Canada and had really cold conditions, I’d go with a premium winter tyre.
Just sold my KO2s and put a set of Mickey Thompson baja boss ATs on. Strange I noticed the siping only goes about 1/3-1/2 of the way down. So essentially when the tire is less than 60% life there will be zero siping. Wth?? And the Mickey Thompsons aren’t any better than the KO2s in snow. Other than looking great they were a big mistake
So, multi-billion dollar Ford company cannot afford to keep up their own buildings. They need to hold raffles to get the public to pay for their land. I know people are going to be mad about me posting this but come on seriously.
It's more of Ford as a corporation doesn't want to pay to upkeep Henry Ford's land but they'll give a 40-50k bronco (their price) as a donation to the non profit so they can do that. Ford gets a kickback on their taxes for the donation and the non profit (probably ran by an ex Ford executive) gets to run an event that will probably net $300k+. 50k for the Ford's property and the other $250k for the non profits staff pay. 😉🫣
Judging by the amount of snow “attaching” to the tires, they were working as at least a basic level of “snow” tires. To me, that’s kind of the biggest factor in whether the tires actually work in the snow. Obviously, real winter tires work better, but there are always trade-offs if you off-road. I put Blizzaks on my LC200 a few years ago, but, to me, that meant no off-roading until those tires came off (the rubber was so soft that even a little time on some rocks was ripping them apart). They made a huge improvement in the snow over the KO2s that were on the rest of year, but that was a bit of a bummer. I had Nokian Outpost ATs on my Ram 1500 and those were better in the snow than the KO2s, but not as good as dedicated snows, of course. I never felt the need for dedicated snows with those tires - different vehicle, of course. On the other end, my Model S LR would be undeliverable in the snow without dedicated snows (in my opinion). Always love these tires test videos!
I have lived 38 years without driving a car. This year I purchased 4Runner, put new Falken Wildpeak AT3W on it (a tire that is not being manufactured anymore), and faced the snow first time in my life today. This shit with sliding in all directions you see in the video - that's how I was for me also. And inclined exists from parking lots were very difficult to go over, as the wheels were just spinning in place. Today I learned that three peaks don't mean shit. I wonder how is it that AT3W are known for their "good" winter performance.
I prefer the Bridgestone Blizzak's on my 2017 Cherokee. With those on and in Snow mode I haven't found a hill yet that it won't climb. A friend that lives out of town has a 8% grade driveway and I can climb up the 1/4 mile long drive better and faster than his 1 ton Chevy with Cooper Snow tires.
@@Redhawk24 Slicks is a little dramatic. But an experienced snow driver with all seasons can be very capable in snow. I have known a few New Englanders who could take a rear wheel drive car with all season through 8 inches of snow.
I have a set of Continental triple snow flake rated, they were good in their first winter, but I do not see that being the case at 50 percent tread wear
I had these tires on a tuscon that i took mudding and offoading all the time. That poor hyundai put in WORK beyond what any of you could imagine lmao and thoae tires carried it through everything.
My Micheline LTX 2's on my '17 GX460 are 3peak rated and are actually silly good in snow. I subtract 3-5 PSI from the placard (at temp; so I do this at 20F or whatever the air down temp is. You lose pressure with descending temperature.). They aren't dedicated snow tires, but they aren't far off. Really superb for a tire that can haul ass at 110F all summer long and is also great in the rain. I use the Falken AT Trails on my 2011 Outback 3.6R and they, too are just superb in snow. Barelling past Range Rovers on normal 3-season tires in the high mountain I-90 pass in the cascades or up by Mount Baker. Same as above; subtract 3-5 PSI from the door placard.
You’ve got it backwards regarding tire pressure. If you’re filling it up in a warm garage you want to add more pressure than the OEM recommendation since you lose about 1 psi for every 10°F. For instance, if you fill up in a 60°F garage with the intention of driving in 20°F weather, you want to add 4 psi in the garage to make up for the 40°F temperature drop when going outside. If you fill it up outside in the same temps you’re planning on driving in, fill up to the recommended psi since the pressure won’t change of the temperature doesn’t. Both the LTX and Wildpeak AT Trail are still very far off in performance compared to winter tires.
@@tyeetamer Wrong. I said exactly what I meant. This is also what I've *done* many times. Reducing pressure to a pre-drive psi that is 3-5 psi lower than normal placard pressure GREATLY increases snow performance. In all snow types. Also used on the CrossClimate 2, which I had prior to the AT Trails.
Thanks Guys love your videos and channel. I'm looking a buying a used Range Rover Sport with 35,000 miles as a second vehicle for myself, my primary is a 2023 VW Golf R. I'm super interested in the long term reviews, and things to be congnizent when lookin gfor a used RR Sport. Y'all Da best! Go BEARS!!!
I have Toyo AT3’s on a CRD liberty, and they leave a lot to be desired. The Pirelli Zero all seasons my Durango Tow and Go are perform better. BTW thanks TFL for the videos on the Tow and Go, I would have never known it existed or bought one.
They are my go to. Have been running them for years on my Ram 1500, Jeep Wrangler and 5th Gen 4Runner here on the West Coast of Canada. They are all I run
Don't test your snow tires on fresh snow in a parking lot. Test them on a twisting road that's partially covered with old snow. Start your test at sunset when the roadway is beginning to freeze and when you're least able to distinguish dry pavement from slick ice. The first time you hit a slippery patch in a high-speed curve you'll learn the importance of having good winter tires. They're the main things keeping you out of the ditch. At normal speeds, your brakes and throttle aren't much use (unless you're a Finnish rally driver).
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I understand that TFL needs the money to pay their bills, but this one still seems like a pretty crooked one on Ford's part.
@@richardnottelmann58”crooked?” Why? How? I mean, I hope they discuss his virulent racism and antisemitism at the house, but restoring an architecturally significant home is always an interesting project.
Gents, I'm looking forward to the show about the dedicated snow tire compared to the Three Peak Mountain tires. There is obviously a difference between the thrill of actually driving and computer aided/controlled driving.
Love my cross climate 2 all year snow tires . 60k warranty
Had these on a Volvo XC70, it was fantastic on-road and even better off-road. Did around 4000ft of vertical climbing on a 2 mile switchback trail with 6" rock ledges and lots of loose, flat rock no problem. Never tried them in the snow, sold the car (due to terrible gas mileage + high used car prices) before the season. Another terrific and similar tire is the Pirelli WeatherActive, which I have on the replacement car.
Wait... So they're designed to help you accelerate faster, but NOT turn or stop better?! Sounds like a built-in recipe for disaster!
I put these same exact tires on my 2016 Toyota Camry SE 4cyl with a 2" lift and love them! I'm in Kingman AZ and these tires are great in the winter. We had 10" of snow in March, lots of monsoons and these tires perform well while keeping the same OEM tire size.
Bonjour André and Roman. Here in the province of Québec, all passenger vehicules registered in our province must have winter tires on from december 1st. to march 15th. It's been this way since 2008. Makes a lot of sense and it's much safer for everyone on the road. I have Nokian Nordman 9 on my 2023 Chevy Bolt. Greetings from Montréal, Québec. 🖖
Yup. One of the few laws I agree with from Quebec. Lol 3 peak mountain snowflake tires count.
Looking forward to seeing the dedicated snow tyre vs the 3pmsf tyre test.
LOVED my Falken Wildpeak AT3 tires on my 2017 Discovery HSE. In the mountains of Colorado and some really dense deep snow 6/7+ inches up mountain passes in "SNOW" mode I never felt that I was ever going to get stuck. They were also fantastic off road and on the trail in all sorts of situations. I put about 35,000 miles on them before having to get rid of the Disco for engine issues. I would buy the tires again 100%
I'm super impressed with my Michelin Crossclimate 2 tires on my Honda Accord. They are great year round tires that can handle some snow! Last winter in 8" of snow my Ford Eacape FWD work car couldn't get out of my driveway the Honda drove around without any trouble.
The cross climate 2s perform mid pack across dedicated winter tires. It’s crazy how well they perform in snow. Wet handling isn’t the best which is all I really get in Michigan winters now. Hankook kinergy are better value and a bit more evenly balanced.
@@stronghold07ptx85 I'm north of Seattle Washington and in the last year the Crossclimate 2's have been great in the rain. Way better than the Continental tires I had before.
@@stronghold07ptx85the CC are the best tires I’ve ever had for hydroplaning resistance but they could have a touch better lateral handling grip in the rain but still very good
All I can say is do your research. There can be very large gaps in performance depending on the tire. The best winter tires perform nearly as well as a good studded tire and better than a cheap studded tire. The 3pms going on all season and all terrains makes me view them as entry level snow traction, but they wont nearly match a Bridgestone, Michelin, Nokian dedicated winter tire.
Yep! Love my Yokohama Geolander A/Ts but snow tires are still going to brake better on ice.
Mastercraft Glacier Grip 2 work very well. Took me everywhere in the snow with a 2 wheel drive jeep patriot. Did well in the summer in Phoenix for a couple of weeks. Didn't pop like these said some snow tires do.
When I was growing up in 80s, snow in our part would fall from November to March and often it would be up to 15 inches, so many prefered very cheap "snow" tires because even cheap tires could provide excellent grip over high snow. In past decade, we have snow mainly from Feb - April, in many cases it lasts few days and you have more issues with slush, ice, black ice, even water, so tires like Continental T870, or Michelin Alpine 6 have more value even though they are not that great when there is "deep" snow.
How about find an old 80s blocky winter tire vs modern tire with soft tire compound?
I was very impressed with my Wild Peak A/T trails on my Rogue Sport AWD, especially in thunderstorms. Living in New Hampshire however and doing a lot of snowboarding has led me to the Ice-x snow from Michelin for winter. Looking forward driving through some good snow!
The Falken tires shown here didn't pass as acceptable in any Swedish tire tests. This type of tire are standard winter tires in continental Europe, but useless in Sweden, Norway and Finland, where a majority uses studded tires during winter or uses special Nordic winter tires, that are superior in lower temperatures.
Anyone driving in snow or ice should use studded tires. The best nordic winter tires in test 2023 is Continental Vikingcontact 7, and the best studded tire is
Michelin X-ice North 4. P.s winter tires are required by law between 1.dec. and 1.april in Sweden, Norway and Finland.
in southern Sweden we get by on standard Winter tires no need for studs we even use all season Tires with the three peak symbol eg Continental all season contact or Michelin cross climates very few use studded tires in the North I know this because I grew up in Åre. I personally use all seasons from 1st December never had any issues even when we do get deep snow which is rare.
@@Azureecosse hejsan. Jag bor själv i Blekinge. Alla mina grannar köra konsekvent på dubbdäck. Jag själv har altid bara kört på vanliga vinterdäck, men har i år köpt "nordiske " vinterdäck. Jag tror enda skillnaden är temperatur känsligheten. Det är överraskande att du säger dubbdäck inte är så nyttjad i norra Sverige. Jag har varit mycket i norra Sverige, men aldrig på vinteren. Jag gissar det är för att man inte nyttja salt på vägarna däruppe, men jag tänker fortfarande att om dubbdäck borde nyttjas någonstans borde det vara på all isen i norr!?.
Varför alla mina grannar köra på dubbdäck i Blekinge, kan bero på att det alla är gamla bönder. Men när jag tittar på begagnade bilar har flertalet fortfarande dubbdäck medföljande som vinterdäck, så det kan inte vara så ovanligt ändå. Jag fick även dubbdäck medföljande den senaste bil jag har köpt och den har aldrig lämnat Stockholm. 😀
I spent 20 years in Oregon and Washington state for college and then my career. I lived in Corvallis Oregon for 5, Portland Oregon for 10 years and then Yakima Washington for 5. We got a lot of ice in Oregon so many people would choose studded tires for the ice days and give up wet traction. All the libtards in Portland and Seattle figured the damage from metal studs was costing too much so they went to plastic and then from what I heard from friends they outlawed all studs and went to stud less winter tires.
I don’t have much need for winter tires here in Honolulu Hawai’i. I have heard that several European countries require dedicated snow tires in the winter (had Danish & Swedish friends on the Uni’s volleyball team tell me that).
@@J.Young808 I wouldn't mind being in Honululu right now. I am danish but live in southern Sweden and it is cooold at the moment. Studded tires are not legal in Denmark and there's no law requirement for winter tires there unlike Sweden, Norway and Finland. But most people do use wintertires even if it's not required by law.
I have always just had a set of summer tires and a set of winter tires, but I have also invested in a third set of studded wintertires, because even though most highways and cities are effectively cleared and salted, there are periods now and again with alot of ice and worst of all : black ice, and that's when I want studded tires.
On youtube there's alot of videos with Americans skating into each other with their cars as though they drove on ice with slick tires. It's moments like that, I asked myself why ! They obviously live in a cold state, so why aren't they prepared. It's entertaining and tragically stupid at the same time.
They may not be snow tires, but I've put 3 peak rated tired on two different vehicles, and they were way better than standard.
Im running BFG Trail Terrains on my Avalanche for almost 2 years now and they have been very good in the snow and ice.
Did Discount Tire perform a relearn with a TPMS scan tool? If not that's why the TPMS light is on. You can't just stick new sensors in a wheel and expect them to sync to the vehicle, has to be "relearned".
Some sensors have stock programming that works with different vehicles - still requires a relearn to be done. Some sensors required to be programmed FOR the vehicle and then a relearn to program them TO the vehicle.
While it's not part of the official rules for earning a 3 peak mountain snowflake, I do believe that most of these "all weather" tires do in fact have the softer rubber compound that allows better grip during colder months. As soft as a dedicated winter tire? No, obviously not. But softer than a traditional "all season?" Yes. What's interesting to me about an All Terrain tire bearing the 3PMS designation is that an off road tire's design with widely spaced lugs and tread patterns meant for clearing mud, is directly at odds with how a traditional snow tire works. Namely a snow tire wants snow to collect between the treads because, as I learned from a Bridgestone tire engineer and my years of making snowmen, snow sticks to snow, increasing grip!
They do, it's required.
Have been running Nokian WRG2, then WRG3, then Michelin CrossClimate SUV and now Nitto Nomad Grapplers in XL, V-speed and 3PMSF since 2014 on my Pilot up here in Minnesota. The Michelins were impressive in terms of both winter traction and summer handling. Trying the Nittos now for some extra grip and puncture resistance when going off the beaten path.
Looking at the TPMS problem you're having, I have a good feeling those aftermarket sensors were programmed in the wrong frequency and protocol.
To find the right frequency, almost every TPMS diagnostic and relearn tool feature a Remote Keyless Entry & Radio Frequency monitor to identify the correct frequency.
As a mechanic, that's where I start before doing any TPMS service.
I have the cooper discoverer at3 4s with that 3 peek rating they are amazing in snow and in ever offroad trail I've done including deep mud rocks rain on trails over slick rocks in the north east and had no issues
I did alot of research and came to the same conclusion as you, and based on reviews on tire rack cooper discoverer at3 4s had the highest rating in winter. And I switched for Hankook dynapro at tires and its a world of difference.
Andre hooning around had me reminiscing to my misspent youth. 1974 Plymouth Valiant w/a slant 6 and all season-ish tires on snow in South Dakota. Car control training ground in the winter.
It does not matter how old men are. Let it snow, give them a car and they will be happy. Waiting also for some snow. Got new Hankooks Kinergy 4S2 H750.
Hi from Costa Rica. No snow around here only one set of tires used.
Those hurricanes 🌀 tho
I’ve got the Falken AT Trail for summer and Nokian R5’s for winter on our Ascent. There is a big difference for sure. Mainly in turns, braking, packed snow and cold temps since they stay pliable.
I find it so much easier to drive with tractor control off in the snow because it allows me to feel in control of the vehicle and not the vehicle in control of me.
I got these tires on my 2018 Rav4 and I think they are great!
For all intents and purposes, any tire with the "3 peak snowflake" is legally considered a winter tire. (It's not as good per se) but considered as such for insurance companies. At least here. I'm not sure if they would exempt you from having to chain up in mountain passes. And yes they are absolutely rated for turning and braking and are a softer compound. They do fall short on ice however but are still better than any all season.
Next time try researching a little before you comment. The 3PMSF rating has nothing to do with turning or breaking, nor does it mean the tire has a softer compound.
@tyeetamer actually you are wrong look at the US and candadian standards then look up those standards with the 3 peak mountain on them they exceed and beat govt regulations every time. And yes they do help in tracking and turning. So you need to do your research!
I would love to see a head to head test for the Michelin CrossClimate2's against the Bridgestone WeatherPeak's. I have the CrossClimate2's on my 18' Camry Hybrid and they are outstanding tires. The best tires I've ever owned by far. But they killed the gas mileage on my hybrid, so I would like to see how the WeatherPeaks compare for when they finally wear out. (53k, 7/10th's tread left!) For some reason, nobody has done a test with these two tires together in it. You can be the first! 😃 Hope you bite! 😁
I second this, the CC2 tires are phenomenal in the snow. I have them on my '11 Impreza and love them. The big difference between the Falken tires features in this video and CC2 tires is that CC2 specializes in snow driving and the Falkens specialize in offroad driving. CC2's have a different compound that works well in the warm and cold. Engineering Explained has a great video on them explaining how it all works.
@@cory-6439did you notice any significant decrease in gas mileage with the CC2’s as the above poster did? Considering them with my ‘24 Impreza RS when the original Yokohamas start wearing out. Thanks
@@tpolerex7282 Honestly there wasn't a huge difference when talking about an Impreza. Maybe like 1or 2 mpg. The above poster mentioned the car being a hybrid. Hybrids often times put very fuel efficient tires in order to maximize numbers. Where as Imprezas were never all that fuel efficient to begin with so it has little effect.
My suspicion is who they test will largely depend on who donates tires for the test. That would be alot cheaper than buying them. Although Roman may surprise me and buy one set if he think the video's will pay enough.
I run general grapper ATx on my sierra year round and have done so for 6 plus years. They work just fine in canadian winters.
I can attest to the wildpeak trail tires...had them on my Grand Cherokee. No complaints. But I just got new AT3Ws on my Z71 yesterday from Discount Tire....same issue with my TPMS.
I have the Wildpeak AT3Ws on our FJ. Love them!
Yes! I have a supercharged Tundra with those tires and they're great
@@JahyMoonwalker Don't get me started with superchargers. I want to slap one on our FJC.
I'm on my 9th Subaru and my 6th Outback. Had lots of tires over the years, some were terrible (Maxxis, Bridgestone Ecopia, Sumitomo anything), some were great (Potenza, Yokohama), still others were good but with too many tradeoffs to be worth it overall (looking at you BFG KO2).
I've never enjoyed driving my Subies as much as when they have Falken Wildpeaks on them, specifically the A/T Trail. Well over 125k miles with three full sets, currently on my fourth and fifth sets on our two Outbacks. The magic with these tires is to switch to a lighter/smaller wheel combo that nets an overall weight savings, or at least keeps it at the same total. Plus the slightly higher sidewall keeps things quiet and better on rough roads. They're plenty stiff and don't flop around or get noisy with spirited driving.
In a word: planted
These tires do it all, but are especially sticky in the wet and slippery conditions, not to mention almost immune to hydroplaning.
Can't say enough good things about Falken Wildpeaks, they're a match made in heaven when you need to go places other than pavement (or in less than ideal conditions) but don't want to regret driving on pavement to get there.
Wish they made a set for my Expedition, but maybe that's why I don't drive it as much.
I had these same tires on my old MDX and they worked well for all seasons. They had more sidewall than those rubber bands on that Land Rover.
On ice filled roads when I lived in Nova Scotia I use the 660 fire stone on my vehicle and never got stuck once it’s a racing tire. Have a great day.
Test the Nokian WR G4 🙂
Have had quite a few tires on my SUV's over the years. I had Interco Truxxus STX on our Blazer and they were great in mud, but snow and wet roads not so much. They were also very loud. We had Pirelli Scorpion AT+ on our FWD Escape and they were great not only in rain and snow but pretty good in mud. I think they were 3 peak rated. We originally had General Grabber AT+ on our 4Runner also good on road, rain and snow. Maybe not quite as good as the Pirelli's. We switched to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT's and they are surprisingly good on road, in rain and snow for an agressive off-road tire. Amazing in mud and trails. Dry on road and highway performance did suffer a bit. They are also 3 peak rated. Have heard good reviews of the Wildpeaks. They do seem to work well on the Range Rover.
I’ve seen winter tests where some M+S tires performed better in the snow than some 3PMS tires. 🤷🏻♂️. So it’s best to research thoroughly .
i would love to see a test like this with a front wheel drive car.
Kudos to you guys for actually looking up the meaning behind the 3peak snowflake ratings. It really means very little as you can see. I think it tricks most people when selecting tires into thinking their 3peak tire is good in winter. Need more reviews calling this out.
Nokian Outpost APT and or AT are the only true 3 peak that I trust.
On snow they are absolute monsters - even better than many dedicated winter tires in snow.
On ice they are not the greatest but still surprisingly decent.
"Hey, honey, I have to go to work today."
"But it's snowing outside"
"Exactly!!" *goes skidding around in the snow talking about tires.
Best day at work this year :)
Tires + a good traction system and that is all for a nice snowy week end. I love my RR.
I have these on my Subaru Forester, the same tires you tried out. They’re not good in compacted snow or ice. But they are good for wet and dry or less than 3 inches of fresh snow.
Roman, please let Andre finish what he’s saying before cutting him off or going “Right right right”. You may know what he’s explaining but us listening from home may not. 10:48 talking about traction control for example
These are designed to be pretty good at everything, so I wouldn’t expect stellar results in any particular area but on the face of it they looked good with quite aggressive driving on your LWB Range Rover. Did you try Grass, Gravel, Snow and low Traction Launch as well as Auto Terrain Response?
I have Michelin Crosstreck 2 tires. Am looking forward to trying them in the snow
Those are awesome
With my experience all tires have different pros and cons, haven’t found a “do it all” tire I have found. Example my Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac was very good in winter conditions than BFG KO2 and Falken Wildpeak AT3W. But for offroad traction BFG KO2 was better. I wonder how BFG KO3 would be. Now I’m trying Toyo Open Country AT3. For anyone asking why not dedicated winter tires? Here in CO temperature fluctuate A LOT. So for me now worth the trouble of changing tires very often. Else I would melt the dedicated snow tires like Roman said. Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac LTs are also studable if anyone want to go that route.
Of course not being an insider I can't say for sure,but I suspect this class of tires is made with the weather conditions you described in mind. It seems to me like they would be the best compromise possible so if you have to get out you can. But then again I'm abit of a fan of the Jack of all Trades concept,even if it means none can be mastered. For most folks being able to do everything in safety is probably better than being a Master at any one thing but unable to do anything else.
I’ve found the Toyo AT3s to be excellent on the road and very good in all weather and trail conditions.
@@Jeff-ib7wc that's good to know. I havn't had a chance to test the OC AT3s on a good trail. (New born, so no offroading for a while). On pavement in winter conditions they were pretty good.
Finally a proper explanation of the 3 peak mountain snow rated tire with an explanation of the difference between winter tires also. Most reviewers focus only on how well that tire type works without comparing tire types. If more people understand this I'll see less 4X4 trucks in ditches in places with cold winter if they get real winter tires. People that buy big 3 peak mountain snow rated tires think they have the best tire for all conditions. Simply not true when you drive in colder harsher winter with more ice and hard packed snow.
Using 4hi not only gets you moving forward much easier, also decreases brake distance. I use 4hi in the snow ❄️ all the time. Do not exceed 100 kph or 60 mph in 4 hi.
I like how you guys test all these things. I have Hankook Dynapro AT2 Extremes on my truck, that also have "3-Peak Mountain Snowflake".
Falken tires ? Try using a better quality winter tire that helps with acceleration. Stopping and handling in all winter weather conditions..falken is one of the lowest end winter tires. My favorites. Blizzak. Xice . Hakkapalita. And ipike
Fresh snow fun :) LOL Andrei is like a little kid, good fun.
A down side to stability control. Try finding a 20% grade to go up. You will never make it in control mode. Now take off control. Stop in the middle of that hill. Then take off with a lot of pedal. You will crawl right up that hill. If it is front wheel drive, forget it, wait til it melts.
The 3PMSF tyres are very common in Europe. Two of my UK-based cars run Michelin Cross Climates with this rating all year round. They have to drive 600 miles to get to the mountains so they’re obviously a compromise, but a pretty good one. On my Volvo V90 Cross Coutry B5D I get about 45mpg (UK) on a long, fast journey. And in two winters, I have never been stranded. My car that lives permanently in the Alps (another V90 CC) wears more extreme Michelin Alpins all year round - but I really cannot detect how they are better in heavy snow or hard pack.
The ending brought to mind the old saying......... "The only difference between men and boys is the expense of their toys" LOL Hope all of you have a Merry Christmas
Guys, when you do your 3pmsf vs. winter tire video, do you think you could also compare studless winter tires against studded ones? Ive seen lots of different tire and traction aid comparison videos for winter driving, but somehow it seems nobody has done one comparing studded and studless tires!
I’ve used budget winter tyres and 3PMSF all weather (Vredestein quatrac) in snow. The all weathers were better. If I lived in Scandinavia or Canada and had really cold conditions, I’d go with a premium winter tyre.
Just sold my KO2s and put a set of Mickey Thompson baja boss ATs on. Strange I noticed the siping only goes about 1/3-1/2 of the way down. So essentially when the tire is less than 60% life there will be zero siping. Wth??
And the Mickey Thompsons aren’t any better than the KO2s in snow.
Other than looking great they were a big mistake
While nothing beats dedicated winter/snow tires these are a good happy medium type tire set.
Well enough to get you past most California chain control for AWD/4WD vehicles.
Try the Nokian Tyres Hakkapeliitta 10 SUV studded winter tire!
So, multi-billion dollar Ford company cannot afford to keep up their own buildings. They need to hold raffles to get the public to pay for their land. I know people are going to be mad about me posting this but come on seriously.
I mean almost all the companies almost had gone bankrupt
It's more of Ford as a corporation doesn't want to pay to upkeep Henry Ford's land but they'll give a 40-50k bronco (their price) as a donation to the non profit so they can do that. Ford gets a kickback on their taxes for the donation and the non profit (probably ran by an ex Ford executive) gets to run an event that will probably net $300k+. 50k for the Ford's property and the other $250k for the non profits staff pay. 😉🫣
@@skunkworks9-3 okay now that makes alot more sense but I gotta admit that ford bronco raptor is sick
@@skunkworks9-3to be fair they gave the land to University of Michigan and they did not upkeep it
@@FreedomtooffroadFord & tesla are the only ones who didn't go bankrupt and take a bailout.
lol, no surprise the Russian is at home drifting in the snow. Love the content!
Judging by the amount of snow “attaching” to the tires, they were working as at least a basic level of “snow” tires. To me, that’s kind of the biggest factor in whether the tires actually work in the snow. Obviously, real winter tires work better, but there are always trade-offs if you off-road. I put Blizzaks on my LC200 a few years ago, but, to me, that meant no off-roading until those tires came off (the rubber was so soft that even a little time on some rocks was ripping them apart). They made a huge improvement in the snow over the KO2s that were on the rest of year, but that was a bit of a bummer. I had Nokian Outpost ATs on my Ram 1500 and those were better in the snow than the KO2s, but not as good as dedicated snows, of course. I never felt the need for dedicated snows with those tires - different vehicle, of course. On the other end, my Model S LR would be undeliverable in the snow without dedicated snows (in my opinion). Always love these tires test videos!
My Yokohama Geolanders A/T (3 peak) work great in the snow.
My ram1500 classic I ordered the all terrain tire option it came with the Yokohama off road tires 🙌 🛻👍
Love to see a comparison with the cooper at3 4s you reviewed a while back
I love the look of that long land rover.
I like studded snow tires, but it doesn't snow enough in Boulder anymore to justify them.
I’ve got them on my wife’s Forester; we’re in the snow belt on Lake Erie in NWPA. They’re excellent in the snow!
I’ve got them on my wife’s Forester; we’re in the snow belt on Lake Erie in NWPA. They’re excellent in the snow!
I have those tires on my 2005 Subaru Outback XT manual that I lifted 1-1.25”. Don’t need the 3peak snowflake rating in Honolulu
I have lived 38 years without driving a car. This year I purchased 4Runner, put new Falken Wildpeak AT3W on it (a tire that is not being manufactured anymore), and faced the snow first time in my life today. This shit with sliding in all directions you see in the video - that's how I was for me also. And inclined exists from parking lots were very difficult to go over, as the wheels were just spinning in place. Today I learned that three peaks don't mean shit. I wonder how is it that AT3W are known for their "good" winter performance.
can you guys give a comparison between this and the michelin crossclimate you had on the Model Y before?
Love the snow videos!
Michelin cross climate 2 vs Michelin xice snow
Been running mich cc2 for the last year on my Grand Cherokee.
They are Awsome. Run all year.
Check out Tyre Reviews...he did this! (Plus two other Michelin "all season" tires.)
I prefer the Bridgestone Blizzak's on my 2017 Cherokee. With those on and in Snow mode I haven't found a hill yet that it won't climb. A friend that lives out of town has a 8% grade driveway and I can climb up the 1/4 mile long drive better and faster than his 1 ton Chevy with Cooper Snow tires.
Can you test the pilot sport all season 4s. They’re supposed to be really good in the snow for an AS tire.
Can't wait for the real winter tires test!
The most important part to adjust in snow is the loose nut behind the wheel.
I’ll take a bad driver with winter tires over a good driver with slicks any day.
@@Redhawk24 Slicks is a little dramatic. But an experienced snow driver with all seasons can be very capable in snow. I have known a few New Englanders who could take a rear wheel drive car with all season through 8 inches of snow.
@@shattered115 agree.
I saw what you did there..😄
@tflcar Guy's there are companies that make smaller wheels for LR's (and RR's) that fit over those calipers.
Not feeling the Range Rovers. Drove them for a few years when I was working. Liked the Benz SUV’s better. Good video!
For Colorado you need winter ❄️ tires
Yup. And not just Colorado.
I have a set of Continental triple snow flake rated, they were good in their first winter, but I do not see that being the case at 50 percent tread wear
FWIW, I think some tires, like the Michelin CrossClimate2s have made their tread design and features go all the way through from "top to bottom."
I had these tires on a tuscon that i took mudding and offoading all the time. That poor hyundai put in WORK beyond what any of you could imagine lmao and thoae tires carried it through everything.
Recommend Michelin Cross Climate2 for a 3peak rated all year tire.
What snow tire would you recommend for a jeep cherokee trail hawk?
My Micheline LTX 2's on my '17 GX460 are 3peak rated and are actually silly good in snow. I subtract 3-5 PSI from the placard (at temp; so I do this at 20F or whatever the air down temp is. You lose pressure with descending temperature.). They aren't dedicated snow tires, but they aren't far off. Really superb for a tire that can haul ass at 110F all summer long and is also great in the rain.
I use the Falken AT Trails on my 2011 Outback 3.6R and they, too are just superb in snow. Barelling past Range Rovers on normal 3-season tires in the high mountain I-90 pass in the cascades or up by Mount Baker. Same as above; subtract 3-5 PSI from the door placard.
You’ve got it backwards regarding tire pressure. If you’re filling it up in a warm garage you want to add more pressure than the OEM recommendation since you lose about 1 psi for every 10°F. For instance, if you fill up in a 60°F garage with the intention of driving in 20°F weather, you want to add 4 psi in the garage to make up for the 40°F temperature drop when going outside. If you fill it up outside in the same temps you’re planning on driving in, fill up to the recommended psi since the pressure won’t change of the temperature doesn’t.
Both the LTX and Wildpeak AT Trail are still very far off in performance compared to winter tires.
@@tyeetamer Wrong. I said exactly what I meant. This is also what I've *done* many times. Reducing pressure to a pre-drive psi that is 3-5 psi lower than normal placard pressure GREATLY increases snow performance. In all snow types. Also used on the CrossClimate 2, which I had prior to the AT Trails.
Please compare with BFGoodrich Trail Terrain and Continental Terrain Contact.
Any news as to when you will be AWD testing the new prius?
Have these tires on a 2005 Highlander love them
What in tyrenation 😂 I like these wing it videos because science! This is not two little boys playing in the snow. 😂
Thanks Guys love your videos and channel. I'm looking a buying a used Range Rover Sport with 35,000 miles as a second vehicle for myself, my primary is a 2023 VW Golf R. I'm super interested in the long term reviews, and things to be congnizent when lookin gfor a used RR Sport. Y'all Da best! Go BEARS!!!
Got blizzaks on a Tacoma trd off-road. They destroy the bfg ko2’s I had on. There is no comparison
Vredestein Wintrac Pro on my Subaru. TANK.
I have Toyo AT3’s on a CRD liberty, and they leave a lot to be desired. The Pirelli Zero all seasons my Durango Tow and Go are perform better. BTW thanks TFL for the videos on the Tow and Go, I would have never known it existed or bought one.
Интересно посмотреть где нибудь в горах Колорадо где действительно много снега
I like goodyear duratracs in the snow. Great wet traction as well.
They are my go to. Have been running them for years on my Ram 1500, Jeep Wrangler and 5th Gen 4Runner here on the West Coast of Canada. They are all I run
I have the BFG Trail terrain tires on my 2013 WK2, and they are amazing in snow!
Yeah I have a set of those on my 13 avalanche and they are very good, seemed to never need the 4wd on lol
Agree completely. Let FoMoCo fix up Fairlane.
Don't test your snow tires on fresh snow in a parking lot. Test them on a twisting road that's partially covered with old snow. Start your test at sunset when the roadway is beginning to freeze and when you're least able to distinguish dry pavement from slick ice. The first time you hit a slippery patch in a high-speed curve you'll learn the importance of having good winter tires. They're the main things keeping you out of the ditch. At normal speeds, your brakes and throttle aren't much use (unless you're a Finnish rally driver).
Damn, i hate to admit that i like that Range Rover
Certainly goes well.
Nokian make the best winter and all weather tires. The Finlandians know their snow!