Finally a Decent USB Tester on the Market FNIRSI FNB58
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- Finally a Decent USB Tester on the Market FNIRSI FNB58. FNIRSI FNB58 review. How to use USB tester. FNIRSI FNB58 USB tester. How to use FNB58 USB tester. How to use the features of a USB tester, such as power delivery, PD trigger, QC trigger, USB-C E-marker read, and PD listener? FNIRSI FNB58 unboxing. FNIRSI FNB58 instructions. USB diagnostics tool. USB power meter. USB cable tester.
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WOW! I have one, but You show lot of funcinailites, what is difficult to read from users manual! Its great device. Good job!
Glad it was helpful!
I appreciate some clear comparison of these USB testers, in addition to your other comparison video. Saved me a lot of time trying to figure out what did and didn't support older USB A\2.0 tests. The AVhzy C4 looked cutting edge with EPR etc. but had no easily apparent old USB testing support which I needed.
Glad it was helpful!
It also supports PD3.1, but you likley need to update the device for that software... i reckon the latest is 0.68
but nice build, and better the you usually you see from Fnirsi, just a shame that they skimped on the max & min averages..
Thanks - Great video.
You are welcome!
Heads up, when the PD Com switch is in the ON position, VBUS on USB A (IN and OUT) and USB C (IN and OUT) are all connected together. For instance in listening mode your laptop charger negotiated 20V, the type A connector at that instant was also being back fed by the same voltage. I also have the same Anker battery bank and I tried the same test you did and the Anker battery bank survived the test. We got lucky that the USB A on the Anker device has a high over voltage protection threshold. For listening mode power the FNB58 from the USB micro labeled “PC” instead, that bus is isolated from the main VBUS.
Also I notice that in listening mode or trigger mode sometimes the FNB58 wasn’t finding my device or charger. Turns out that the for these tests the cable orientation matters, at least for the cables I was using. If you are having trouble connecting in these modes try disconnecting the type C mainly at the FNB58 and rotating it 180 degrees. I haven’t really researched this, I will later, but I think it has to do with the CC lines being only located on one side.
Yes, you're right, you should only use the PC port for PD listening feature. But all good-quality power supplies typically have protection mechanisms in place to prevent voltage from flowing back into the supply when connected in parallel or from causing any damage due to reverse voltage. This is somewhat analogous to the concept of a diode, which allows current to flow in one direction but not the other.
@@ElectronicsComputers yea i agree, I won’t worry about a bench supply or a wall adaptor. But since USB A is an output only port a PC maker may only have a current limit IC inline with the 5V buck with an absolute maximum rating of 6V. If that’s the case applying more 6V on VBUS will definitely blow up the IC.
Excellent review!
Thank you kindly!
Just got this so I can test devices, but curious how it stacks up to the CT-3 there is one reason i really want that one, and its the load module so I can stress test devices to ensure they are up to spec and also have a fast way to get battery capacity.
It just seems well made and nicely integrated. I can keep the 58 and get a generic load tester and it wouldn't be nearly as nice and cost may more. The advantage would be testing othet devices like power tool batteries, i can already do 18650 batteries with the charger i have.
There is also now the CT4.
You can use any load module with this tester as well.
@@ElectronicsComputersYeah, that's the route I think I'm taking.
They all seem kinda hacky yet still expensive for the ones I'm looking at. Do you have a specific recommendation?
I ordered a 150w variable one that has a breakout board for USB.
The nice thing about combining these two devices is I can verify readings from two devices and if the load doesn't negotiate a voltage/amperage I want I can use the 58 to spoof and get the power output I want.
I would really like to see a USB cable toner for tracking those cables behind awkward places. But nobody sells such a thing.
Great video! What sort of functions can be used to test the quality of cables and usb wall plugs? For cables i would assume testing resistance would be best and maybe looking at ripples in the output of wall plugs. I generally never use quick charge and try to use the lowest output wall plugs to not degrade the battery on my samsung galaxy devices.
For your Galaxy devices, simply go to the battery settings and turn off quick charge. Your phone or tablet will then charge using only 5 volts instead of 9 volts. As for USB wall plugs, you can check the quality of the supplied voltage using a scope feature. If you have a load resistor, you can verify if the claimed charging current can indeed be drawn from the charger. When it comes to cables, you can check the resistance, but I've never encountered cables so poor that the difference between an expensive one and a generic one is noticeable.
@@ElectronicsComputers Thanks, that's exactly what I do and on top of that I use a samsung ETA0U61JWE 5V 1A usb wall plug, my galaxy s7 is still running perfectly 7 years later of daily abuse in extreme cold -30C and extreme heat +40C and the battery hasn't degraded significantly. What should I be looking at in the scope? Its hard for me to quantify and determine what wall plugs are objectively of higher quality and safety. Also have you ever seen wall plugs or chargers with manual variable output?
Great video.
Thanks for the visit
If you already have a PSU connected to the USB-C IN port, do you still need to connect the FNB58 to the built-in USB-A (male) port to a power source (in your case, it's a USB-A power bank)? Just wondering if I need to always power the FNB58 using that USB-A connector even though I'll be testing only USB-C PSUs/devices.
Wondering because this seems to be the most versatile tester (also very nice interface), but if it needs to be powered by the USB-A male connector to test USB-C power sources, that's unwieldy and inconvenient.
For now, I want to test the Baseus CCZX-100CO car charger I just purchased (let me know if you have any opinions on this charger as well) but I'd have to do it in my car.
Here's a video I did just as a preliminary test to see it's capabilities between my Pixel 7 Pro and a laptop that can draw 65W.
ruclips.net/video/mogYzbiRtBo/видео.html
But I want to verify ALL of the protocols it claims to support. I'm a bit suspicious of a small car charger that claims to do 100W. Even if it does, I'm afraid of the heat it will generate.
Thanks for a great video. You've earned my subscription!
No, you don't need to use a second power source. There's only one feature that requires a second power source, which is PD listener, and it should be that way. Baseus makes pretty good stuff, but I always recommend using Anker chargers if you can't buy an original one.
@@ElectronicsComputers Thanks for responding. Price was a driving factor, and the reviews seems genuine on Amazon (most complaints are about the dim display).
Btw, when testing USB-C, does it pass through device negotiation? Example, if phone asks for 9v, will that request get to the charger, or do I have to use the tester to manually request it? Wondering if it's possible to accidentally request (for example) 20v when the device is actually asking for a lower voltage.
@@ElectronicsComputers I just answered my question but I don't like the answer. Sometimes it passes the negotiation,. sometimes it doesn't. When it does, it charges like normal and you can see what they negotiated on the display. Sometimes it just doesn't charge at all. Sometimes it charges at 5v 1A. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason.
Very instructive video. Thanks for sharing. By the way, where did you get your USB C to Alligator cable? I looked everywhere, and I only find USB A to Alligator...
Thank you for the comment! I simply bought a cable like this: alii.pub/6xk2hz and a USB-C connector: alii.pub/6xk2jj and made that cable myself.
Mine show error code 02 when power up with power bank. Is there a way to fix it?
Hello, would you say this is the best one currently available?
Yes, as of today it's the best one. And there's a new firmware available for that model with new features.
hello sir, what is the different between fnb58 and fnb48p? what to buy fnb58 ($46) or fnb48p ($34)?
I also made a video where I tested the FNB48: ruclips.net/video/a7XaeHFuiPE/видео.html
The FNB58 offers many more features compared to the FNB48. Unlike the FNB48, which has exposed PCBs and components, the FNB58 comes with a normal case. Additionally, the overall build quality of the FNB58 is way better.
The peelie’s left in the screens hurts my soul
Agree lol. However, the whole screen has a protective plastic layer, and it is attached to that peelie.
1:21 What does this mean on the screen? Will I damage my phone when charging it through this device?
If you connect an old phone that doesn't support fast charging and only requires 5 volts for charging then, yes it will burn the charge controller. There's no need to turn those high voltage modes for charging your phone. Your device can do it on its own if it has that feature and this USB testers allows you to see those processes.
hi! Do you know a USB tester witch can limit a charge at 80% on non cellphone devices. I want charge my power banks pocket wifi and portable speaker at 80% charge all the time.
That would be great if such a USB tester existed, but unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to create one because there's no communication about the battery state between the charger and the battery. In theory, if you charge a completely drained battery, you can set a limit on the milliampere-hours (mAh) that the charger can pump into your device to charge the battery and stop charging at 80% capacity. However, if your battery, for example, has 20% charge remaining, it will still be charged to 100% with the same limit, and so on.
Hey, nice video, thank you for sharing. I have same model USB Tester but with Bluetooth, and I don't have the one menu option you seem to have USB-C E-Marker. What firmware version do you have installed on the FNRIRSI FNB58? I have v0.68 firmware. Regards N
I have the same firmware version. I'd try to reflash the firmware, that's the only thing that comes into my mind.
Thanks for checking for me. Is there any way to reflash without my PC installing their trojan, last time when i bough it, i updated firmware first, then saw Trojan, then rebuilt PC> I don't want to rebuild th e PC again for a firmware update, and on their site today FNIRSI i could have sworn firmware only for this model latest Firmware v0.62? The chinese thy courting backwards? i@@ElectronicsComputers Ill check again, but anyway to firmware update without PC you know of??
I need it!
the links in the description.
what will happen if you use fast charge test on a phone that supports fast charge? I mean manually setting voltage by tester, not by phone
Some devices will work flawlessly, while others may fail. It depends on the charge controller. I wouldn't force any device to accept a higher voltage, even if it's one of the supported ones. All USB ports provide 5 volts initially, and only after establishing negotiation between the power supply/charger and the receiving device, then voltage change to 9, 12, 18, or 20 volts.
@@ElectronicsComputers yes, i always wondered what happen if you force higher voltage. it useful when your phone supports fast charging with different protocol
are you can calibrate the voltage? sometime device like this can drift and not pretty accurate, it will be handy if you can manual calibrate the device its self
I have never seen USB testers with voltage calibration feature.
Обновить его стоит. Детекшн уже версии 1.3, первой версии вешался часто. Глючно на китайских хай ватт зарядках реалми, оппо и т.п. работает. ТоварищЪ, у вас спешиал проносиэйшн, чую я. Успехов вам и каналу! ЗЫ: смена языка даёт приход от ютуба лучше?
Thank you for the comment! I'll check for updates. English is the language that most people on the planet understand.
@@ElectronicsComputers это не точно ;]
Индусы и китайцы так не считают.
Is there a metal case version of the FNB58?
Both versions with and without Bluetooth have metal cases.
I'm new and confused, can I use this to test capabilities of my charging cables/wall chargers ??
Yes, you can but you also need a load to test all capabilities of chargers. The links in the description.
I am just going to order it under Cyber Monday Deal. As I know it is the best devicein its kind today.
Yep! Good choice!
Hiii what is the difference from finirsi fnb 48 p ???thnk u
The FNB48P has the same simple menu as FNB48 one and some features are limited. FNB58 is the best USB tester at the moment. The case on FNB48P is better in my opinion than on FNB58 but the set of features you get and a nice graphical interface makes it a perfect tool.
Does it has Windows software ?
Yes, there's a dedicated softwate for PC, and if you buy a Bluetooth version, there's also an Android app available in the Play Store.
@@ElectronicsComputers Is there a version for ios (iPhone)?
I just bought this tester and wanted to test a "26800mah" power bank I bought from Amazon. I don't quite understand how to read the results that's right in front of me. Lol. Is it a 9900mAh or 19600mAH capacity?
Screen says the following:
Battery CAP Calculation
Group: 01
Time: 0 days 14:36:41
CAP: 9.92364 Ah
NRG: 80.5495 Wh
BAT Vol: 3.7V
Conv Eff: 90%
Results: 19.5931 Ah
Thanks!
The battery capacity is about 19600mAh. If you performed this test with fully discharged power bank, then that result should be very close to the real capacity not advertised one.
@@ElectronicsComputers yes...I tested it when it was fully discharged. Thank you!
Kann der FNB58 mit aktueller Firmware nur 120 Watt? In den Spezifikationen steht maximal 120 Watt! Das schwächste PD3.1 Ladegerät kann 140 Watt! PD3.1 selbst geht bis 240 Watt.
Es gibt keine auf Verbraucher ausgerichteten USB-C-Adapter, die mehr als 140 Watt Leistung haben. Ich bezweifle stark, dass in naher Zukunft ein 240-Watt-Adapter veröffentlicht wird, da auf dem modernen Markt offensichtlich kein Bedarf für einen solchen Adapter besteht.
The tester has a male usb-a plug. I plugged it into my dell inspiron 3668 which has 2 usb 3.0 ports on front panel. device says they're 2.0. can anyone try this?
As far as I know these testers can't detect USB speed or type. At what menu option did you find that feature?
Maaf Bertanya, Apa fungsi trigger, apakah aman untuk charge handphone? Adakah aturan tertentu?
NEVER change voltage with the connected device to the USB tester. It may be fatal to that phone. All devices that support higher voltage during charging will switch on its own when the charge controller send the appropriate request to the charger. If you force it you will burn the charge controller.
Terimakasih jawabannya, Lalu apa fungsi trigger ini ? Apakah ada perangkat selain handphone yg menggunakan fungsi trigger ini ?
@@zainudynqudus9546 That feature in the USB tester only for testing the power supplies and chargers. The devices like laptops, tablets, phones and some battery chargers can trigger different voltages depending on what they need. For example if you know that your phone supports fast charging and you bought some no-name charger, then using this USB tester you can check if that charger supports quick charge. Or maybe your laptop is not charging, then with this USB tester you can run a test to figure out where the problem lies in your laptop or charger.
@@ElectronicsComputersJawaban yang sangat memuaskan, saya sekarang mengerti, Terima kasih dan sukses untuk anda.
@@zainudynqudus9546 Saya senang bisa membantu!
how do i get it incase i want to buy it?
Am Brian Uganda
You can order on Aliexpress the link in the description.
When I plug in my powerbank the Unit display error code 02. Does not open the main interface.
When you plug it into other devices, does it operate normally?
No it does not
Got feedback from FNIRSI. The microcontroller chip is damage.
@hardusvd Try to reflash the firmware. There's a new firmware update available.
I did reflash it the device. No improvement.
One last question for you my friend, if you have the time?
You wouldn't know what these model numbers mean on ebay?
FNB58 USB Tester, Digital Voltmeter Current Tester USB Type-C Fast Charge P V1D9
FNB58 USB Tester, Digital Voltmeter Current Tester USB Type-C Fast Charge P F1I3
1X(FNB58 USB Tester, Digital Voltmeter Current Tester USB Type-C Fast 6669
FNB58 USB Tester, Digital Voltmeter Current Tester USB Type-C Fast Charge P Z3N2
FNB58 USB Tester, Digital Voltmeter Current Tester USB Type-C Fast Charge P X2D2
I'm struggling to understand which one is the latest/best the difference these days lol!!!
I have no idea what it means and where they found that information. For some reason you can only find it on eBay. Those testers have only two version with and without Bluetooth. The rest is absolutely identical. Firmware is upgradable on both versions. I recommend buying it from the official Fnirsi store on Amazon: amzn.to/48cCjul
It's a joke that they have micro USB port for the updates this days.
They should upgrade the micro USB port to a USB c port for firmware updates, micro USB ports and similar, are extremely annoying.
You don't need to use the micro port. Just hold the button/wheel before plugging in a type C cable, and it works the same way. That's how I upgraded mine.
i dont think the cable spec check is useful. its surely not testing it in real time, its just reading whats in the EPROM probably, which could just be manipulated.
so you will know at least your cable went thru extra step, whether it is indeed that spec, without a real load and real testing, it is just as useless i think.
Unfortunately, there's no tester that can determine the real specs of cables. Yes, the device can measure the resistance of the cable, but without knowing the cable length or wire diameter, you can't calculate the power it can hold. So you have to either enter those specs manually, or it will be just an estimated value based on cable resistance and the average wire gauge.
Thks but I thinks I'll wait until it does PD3.1
PS: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm FNIRSI FNB58 USB Tester ⭐ How to Firmware Update & Add PD 3.1 Support ruclips.net/video/k5vDx_qWqO8/видео.html
The .pdf manual is essentially useless. The website is likewise pathetic. How do you upgrade firmware from linux? Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company. A tutorial that walks us through using it for usb port capabilities detection, then to other features would be useful.
There's nothing in Apple's app store for fnb58.
For some shady software I always use a virtual machine.