Testing ARTEM and FORSTNER watch straps

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • I was sent several straps in from Artem and Forstner recently and after spending considerable time with them on the wrist, I wanted to share a video sharing some of my thoughts and experiences
    These are not inn-expensive, so hopefully this video helps people to decide whether or not they are willing to part with their hard earned cash
    Artem Straps Featured:
    Hybrid: artemstraps.co...
    Loopless: artemstraps.co...
    Forstner Straps Featured:
    For Tudor: forstnerbands....
    7 Link Beads Of Rice: forstnerbands....
    Forstner Komfit: forstnerbands....
    Forstner Ladder: forstnerbands....
    Full Disclosure: All the straps were sent to the channel without the need to be returned
    Thanks for watching...
    #artemstraps

Комментарии • 96

  • @drdesign6886
    @drdesign6886 10 месяцев назад +17

    Finally an honest Artem review. They look ace. Super photogenic. But ultimately not very comfortable. And their clasps are very average. They are very good straps but fantastically over priced. Most reviewers simply praise - possibly as they get them free and haven’t forked out hard earned cash - or maybe they want more freebies from Artem in future (who can blame them!). So kudos for a genuine review my friend - a dying art on watch RUclips unfortunately. Gives your channel a real honesty to it.

    • @jaysterling26
      @jaysterling26 10 месяцев назад

      I've considered ( for 1 watch) Artem as they cater for 19 &21mm - really not great for options, unless one is a masochist .
      The price of the FKM strap probably makes it the market for entry (?!) level luxury ( not my nomenclature/ moniker) watches.

    • @frankygamaliano7058
      @frankygamaliano7058 10 месяцев назад +3

      I am one who fell for Artem straps thanks to those IG influencers and their fantastic photos. Bought few of their sailcloth straps with and without deployant clasps. Found it uncomfortable and I agree the buckle sticks out like a sore thumb. The deployant is better but at a premium. Then came the latest rubber straps. The pricing is just too steep for sub-par customer service. Free worldwide shipment but super SLOW for the price. Is it due to their base in Adelaide? I bought many other items from all over the world would reach in 2-3 days. Learnt my lesson. Nope, no more.

    • @justplainlawr
      @justplainlawr 10 месяцев назад

      I have 3 Artem sail cloth straps and have gifted 1. I find them excellent on my Speedmaster and Seamaster. Agreed with skipping the hardware though, Omega-style deployants can be had online a fraction of the Artem price. And of course, if the strap is the right one, a genuine Omega clasp ties everything together very nicely.

    • @hemantishwaran5741
      @hemantishwaran5741 6 месяцев назад

      I don’t think that’s what he said. He’s talking about Artem’s hybrid strap with standard deployment as having disadvantages. However he states in this and other videos that the loopless sailcloth is really great. Forget trying to find an Omega clasp they are overpriced you can just get the loopless for a custom look and fit and it’s probably as good as the omega. Plus more choices.

    • @DurianKingg
      @DurianKingg 4 месяца назад

      I thought i was high, everyone raving about how artem strap and clasp are ALMOST as good as top tier brands clasp. While i dont have experience with rolex, omega or even tudor. I found the clasp much lesser quality than i expected from online review. They are in not way cheap, they are fsr from cheap but definitely not as great as many claim it to be. I think if they priced it right around USD100 it would have been a banger.

  • @wizard903
    @wizard903 10 месяцев назад +16

    I really appreciate your candid reviews, particularly of more expensive options like Forstner and Artem. That said, I'd appreciate you comparing Strapcode, Uncle Straps, and Watch Gecko bracelet options at some point!

  • @sysakPL
    @sysakPL 10 месяцев назад +4

    You can mould the rubber straps by wrapping them around the inner side of a mug, pouring over hot water and letting it cool down. It will maintain a round shape after that.

  • @johnnyguitar6697
    @johnnyguitar6697 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the candid review. I've been eyeing a flat link Forstner bracelet for my Omega Speedmaster, especially since they now offer a milled clasp for it. As for those hybrid Artem straps, they are extraordinarily highly priced for what they are: a synthetic material, industrially produced, made in China product. I would be amazed if the ex-factory cost was much more than USD 10. At USD 218, you can get a custom, luxury leather, made in France strap from Jean Rousseau or Camille Fournet. And they propose a rubber lining, if perspiration / climate is an issue.

  • @jlg395
    @jlg395 10 месяцев назад +3

    I own the Ladder and BOR from Forstner, and wouldn't hesitate to buy more. They're pricey but worth it if you dig the style.

  • @tiffer67
    @tiffer67 10 месяцев назад +3

    I bought a Forstner Flat Link Bracelet for my Speedmaster which cost me around £180. The flat link bracelet I feel is so much better looking on the Speedmaster than the standard issue. I have to say that when I picked up the bracelet the first thing I noticed was just how light it was. To be frank, I really feel that it isn't the standard that I expected for the money. It does look good but I would have preferred soemthing with a bit more weight.
    Artem sailcloth straps are great but do take a bit of breaking in.

  • @deannoble673
    @deannoble673 10 месяцев назад +2

    Really enjoyed this one.
    Have been eyeing both of these brands and it was helpful to get your perspective.
    I see you are closing in on 50K Peter well deserved too.

  • @timetowatch_francois
    @timetowatch_francois 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for sharing your insights.
    I was curious about Artem for a while now. I appreciate your thoughts and advice.
    Keep ‘em coming my friend, love what you do 😊👍🏼

  • @justplainlawr
    @justplainlawr 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this video Peter, great hearing an actual opinion on what works and doesn't work for these straps vs a "paid-positive" review and having the reviewer claim that it's their "honest opinion". Kudos to you, this is refreshing content.

  • @BLR653
    @BLR653 3 месяца назад +1

    Seems like the stiffness and rigidity of the OG strap from Artem makes it hold the shape better. Great feedback! I have found that the more expensive the rubber strap is the more it tends to return to flat immediately. My cheaper FKM straps hold the wrist shape even when you take them off but my Rubber B ($280 for a strap) go completely flat. The FKM mix that Rubber B uses is so supple that they immediately hug the wrist. The other thing Rubber B offers is the dream strap which has infinite adjustment with 2mm spaced holes. They don't offer it for every watch but man oh man is it nice!

  • @Chris-mh3vf
    @Chris-mh3vf 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have a bb58 on a Forster jubilee very pleased with it

  • @wisamal-hakim5531
    @wisamal-hakim5531 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is really useful to know. I have a number of non conforming straps that are too thick and don’t allow the watch case to sit comfortably. Even when ‘moulding’ is attempted. These look good seem comfortable and conform nicely when broken in for a little while.
    Really useful thank you

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @joshuagore4859
    @joshuagore4859 10 месяцев назад +2

    The Uncle Seiko Jubilee is amazing on the exact same BB58 that I have. I love it and never looked back.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад

      I bought the same bracelet but haven't been able to make it fit the BB58..not sure why. Any advice?

  • @peterboyce1422
    @peterboyce1422 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love my Artem strap (not FKM hybrid) on my 21mm lug width Fortis F-39. Perfect pairing and the quality of the Artem sailcloth strap is outstanding. 🙂

  • @soulboxphoto
    @soulboxphoto 10 месяцев назад +3

    Those beads of rice bracelets work really well on vintage 36mm and below watches like vintage omega seamasters, calatravas and such.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, I can see a nice 36mm on that..perfect match 👍

  • @khronokraze
    @khronokraze 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great info and insight on your experience with these. Hmm.. the new Artem hybrid straps seem like you should keep them on the watch and around a watch roll when not in use to maintain their "shape conditioning". Perhaps alternatively, while not on any watch, they should be stored tight enough in a cylindrical container so they at least are ready to wear and won't get the "vertical lift" when you do install them onto a watch to use.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      Correct, thats been my experience with these 👍

  • @jonbravo6262
    @jonbravo6262 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great review Peter!
    I’ve been exploring bracelet / strap options for all day comfort and love wearing FKM in the Tropics.
    New Margrette Watch arrived (Moana Pacific X RedbarNZ) & the Ti bracelet is super slinky and comfy.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад

      Nice, enjoy 👍👍

  • @watchchimp3102
    @watchchimp3102 10 месяцев назад

    I have a 42mm Longines Spirit I picked up pre-owned. Apparently, the original owner maybe felt it was too big for him so he put it on a very light narrow Forstner bracelet.
    As you've noted probably the wrong tact and probably made the watch head even more unmanageable.
    But I can't complain, I got it, immediately put it back on it's original leather strap, it's sublime, and I got a killer deal on the watch!! 😊

  • @pvd12
    @pvd12 9 месяцев назад

    Pete. Longish subscriber, first time commentator. I for one bought a sailcloth Artem strap based on your original review with a fair amount of input by Jayson at design artier…. The purchase was made 6 / 7 weeks ago. The bolstering on the both sides has still not conformed to my wrist…7 3/4” & on the join at 6 o’clock has bubbled….for those interested the strap is worn on a Farrer pointing. 39 mm & I wear it fairly tight…. The problem is the bolstering… 1/- elevates the watch & 2/- moves the case to the side of my wrist.. it will not sit flat at the top of my wrist… quality…. Yes recommend…. No. Because of the above & not to mention Australian buyers are hit with GST that’s not mentioned on there website they make a expensive product that if I could try at a store I probably wouldn’t have purchased…. I know you’re close to Artem, happy for you to pass this on…

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  9 месяцев назад

      Sorry to hear about that..
      On a side note, which strap did you get?..loopless or original?
      Nonetheless, shoot me through an email with your details and I will pass this on to them : peterkotsa@gmail.com

    • @pvd12
      @pvd12 9 месяцев назад

      Original with tang buckle

  • @Dialandhands
    @Dialandhands 10 месяцев назад +20

    You can’t count uncle straps out as a contender. Especially when looking at their options for Tudor and Omega.

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s 10 месяцев назад

      Are Uncles pin or screw links?

    • @Anirossa
      @Anirossa 10 месяцев назад

      Maybw their straps, got a bracelet for an omega, from Uncle Seikk I own was an absolute rip off, terrible 4 euro aliexpress quality for 100 euros.
      Absolute garbadge, cheap pins, stamped sharp edges on the clasp that he instruct you to bend around if it dosn't close right, faulty machining, hallow end links, sharp and poorly cut and not filled what so ever. Stay away!

    • @jlg395
      @jlg395 10 месяцев назад +2

      Uncle Straps has terrible QC issues, though.

    • @aesric
      @aesric 9 месяцев назад

      Uncle is shit

    • @Swiss_Army_Knife1780
      @Swiss_Army_Knife1780 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jlg395
      My beads of rice bracelet from Uncle rattles like a Fleetwood Brougham with a bad catalytic converter.
      Plus, unfinished links have sharp edges that snag.
      I will need not buy another bracelet from Uncle Seiko again.

  • @davidr2802
    @davidr2802 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Forstners on your Omega and IWC make the watch heads look really out of proportion. But the ladder on the Meistersinger looks a perfect match.

  • @dnafty
    @dnafty 10 месяцев назад +1

    You gotta add Vanguard rubber. They really are phenomimal quality.

  • @SuLu_B
    @SuLu_B 10 месяцев назад +3

    I just can't bring myself to spend $200+ on a rubber strap that doesn't even come with a deployant clasp...

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe 10 месяцев назад +1

    One more vote for Uncle bracelets. They are the best aftermarket, often better than the original bracelrt

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +2

      I have one myself, I bough the jubilee that is meant to fit the BB58...I have never been able to get it to fit so I have never worn it..haha
      Im gutted bro

  • @dannyg6592
    @dannyg6592 10 месяцев назад +1

    A very helpful episode. I have a Tudor BB58 on a Forstner Model J Jubilee. The Forstner Jubilee is a high quality bracelet, and it pairs with the Tudor perfectly. It adds a vintage look and feel, with modern, solid construction. Cheers!

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 10 месяцев назад +2

    mark at LIA has great aligator and crocodile straps at good prices

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love me some Bulang and Sons... gorgeous quality

  • @SaSpursFan
    @SaSpursFan 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for your honesty

  • @russellbaker4256
    @russellbaker4256 10 месяцев назад +1

    If you don't want to bother trying to mould your strap, go for vulcanized rubber from the start (two cents). Eg. Crafterblue

  • @Unlucky1776
    @Unlucky1776 10 месяцев назад +8

    I’m pretty cheap so the most I pay for straps/bracelets is $10 lol

    • @jhandal311
      @jhandal311 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lmao wrong video those artems are like $200

    • @Unlucky1776
      @Unlucky1776 10 месяцев назад

      @@jhandal311 what

    • @Unlucky1776
      @Unlucky1776 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@jhandal311 oh I see what you mean I don’t buy from name brand like Artem for these reasons lol

    • @jhandal311
      @jhandal311 10 месяцев назад +1

      I havent bought higher than $50 but i am planning on trying an artem or a frostner , i hear the quality is present. We’ll see

    • @Unlucky1776
      @Unlucky1776 10 месяцев назад

      @@jhandal311 hope you get a good product! Also have a good day

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. 10 месяцев назад +1

    I guess the ladder bracelet is pretty breathable but that pressed clasp on the BOR is an eyesore. When I buy a third party bracelet I want something better!

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel the same

  • @xgford94
    @xgford94 10 месяцев назад

    1:48 thanks 🙏 you have saved me a bad buy I was going to put it on a Lunar Pilot… that would have been a mess

  • @CraigG21
    @CraigG21 10 месяцев назад +1

    I liked the Forstner bracelet and found the quality excellent, but found the weight too little and taper too much for my 7.5” wrist on my Black Bay GMT.

  • @rvboyett
    @rvboyett 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've been looking for something like the Artem sailcloth straps. Not sure I'll try the hybrid though. I've got a Breitling Avenger with a sailcloth strap that I love and these, from Artem, are almost identical in appearance. I'll probably buy one or two for my other watches. Thanks.

  • @michaelniemer4449
    @michaelniemer4449 10 месяцев назад

    At the risk of repeating myself, that Forstner ladder style bracelet is a phenomenal summer bracelet for a lighter watch (skin diver re-issue in my case).
    Those Artems still have my attention, and I just might have to go with the original sail cloth in green for my Speedy Pro, when I don’t have it on the Forstner version of the Speedmaster bracelet (which is also such a comfortable bracelet).
    Yes, I too spend way too much on straps and bracelets. But the alternative is often a new watch, which is wayyy more expensive, and kicks one out of the watch box. So, I’ll keep my attention to the accessories 😂

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      Nicely summed up brother..haha😊

  • @baandoptager
    @baandoptager 10 месяцев назад +5

    The vintage lighter styles that forstner do are hard to find these days but I think they're overcharging. They should not cost $100-140.

    • @baandoptager
      @baandoptager 10 месяцев назад

      @@nemoomen4484 Basically what i just said but thx for chiming in. And China? Of course. I'd rather that than American.

  • @TAP1999
    @TAP1999 10 месяцев назад +1

    John Ruosseau straps are the best. Artem can’t compete with them

    • @johnnyguitar6697
      @johnnyguitar6697 9 месяцев назад

      Yes. Them and Camille Fournet. It's laughable that Artem sells their industrially made in China rubber strap at the same price or more than a custom leather / ostrich strap made in France by the likes of Jean Rousseau.

  • @jonathanrobinson9208
    @jonathanrobinson9208 10 месяцев назад +1

    Have you had any Strapcode Miltat bracelets ?
    They offer heavy and medium weights in mostly 20 - 22mm. They also have Rollball ( rally style) as well as Razor bracelets, including straight and curved end links.and many other styles. I'd love to hear your opinion on them! ❤

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      I have been meaning to check Strapcode out, I haven't as yet, thanks for sharing 👍

  • @GRIFFKILL
    @GRIFFKILL 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah, I bought the legendary Forstner Bullet Strap, so disappointed with it, it's way too narrow, girlie in fact.

  • @BryanO92
    @BryanO92 10 месяцев назад +1

    A pressed clasp is shocking for what they charge. Vintage styling is one thing, but there are some things that should be left in the past.

  • @jeanlefranc3817
    @jeanlefranc3817 10 месяцев назад +2

    Bought a flat link vintage inspired Forstner for a Speedmaster 357050 in 2022. The look did nicely match my Speedy, but a cheap pressed clasp on a $160 steel bracelet ?
    Come on, you can buy Microbrand watches with better bracelets for $350 !
    Forstner has benefited from the unconditional love from Fratello, good for them, but they don’t live up to the hype IMO.

  • @jlg395
    @jlg395 10 месяцев назад +2

    Serious question, Pete...what's so good about a milled clasp? My watches with a pressed clasp always feel far more comfortable and fit flush against the wrist than the ones I have with a bulkier milled clasp.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      Personally I don't have a problem with either as long as they are done right
      A proper milled clasp and swivel will be well designed and fit beautifully under the wrist. That said, a poorly designed one (usually ali express special) are chunky, not refined and bothersome or weighty
      As far as long lasting, a pressed clasp being thin is indeed comfortable, but more prone to bending and getting out of shape over the years, as it is not as strong, so it needs more care. My friend has an Omega from 1990 and it has a pressed clasp..it is superb..one of the nicest and "strongest" clasps I have seen in ages
      All that said, I have had both on my watches throughout my journey and have no favourites...

    • @jlg395
      @jlg395 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@PeterKotsa Thanks for your reply. Your channel is a positive breath of fresh air when it comes to watches!

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@jlg395 🙏

  • @timchan334
    @timchan334 10 месяцев назад +1

    I heard Forstner use to make Jubilees for Rolex!

  • @IRguyIR
    @IRguyIR 10 месяцев назад +1

    Deleting polite comments suggesting that cheapest pressed clasp watch bands can be bought on some well known sites for 10% off the prices Forstner are having just shows that the reviewer is mostly a seller. Fortunately there are sites where we, watch enthusiasts communicate and such channels get deserved reviews which sooner or later shows on the view count.

  • @WORMGERM
    @WORMGERM 10 месяцев назад +1

    Expensive straps are worth it for expensive watches. Don't spend more on the strap than you did on the watch

  • @user-tx4wj7qk4t
    @user-tx4wj7qk4t 3 месяца назад +1

    Don't listen to this guy, complete nonsense. Komfit was used by NASA for massive watches and works great (I have one). Same for their BoR and bonklip. If you watch this channel more you'll realize there's something super off about this guy and he's clearly got OCD or something even worse

  • @techmologue1869
    @techmologue1869 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have just received my Forstner "Model 0 Bracelet" for the Tudor BB. It's garbage. Rattly, tinny, sharp edges, horrible screw pins. Overpriced and not worth the money.

  • @jackiemoon_lms
    @jackiemoon_lms 10 месяцев назад

    I have an artem and cannot comprehend how something so expensive is so unbelievably uncomfortable. Cannot recommend their straps.
    Most of my watches stay on their original bracelets such as my GS, Tudor BB36 (also have an uncle straps jubilee which is fantastic) and my Omega Seamaster. I have found with higher quality brands come high quality bracelets so I never take them off.
    Sure, I’ll swap straps on my Seiko or orient divers but never my bigger brand watches.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  10 месяцев назад

      Which Artem strap do you have, also with what configuration regarding buckle/clasp?...interested to find out 👍

    • @rsaha999
      @rsaha999 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PeterKotsa I share a similar experience. Yes, the Artem straps are nice - but between how much I paid for the loopless strap and the omega style buckle - more than 200USD - I think you get the same quality for 1/3rd of the price. Wasn't any more comfortable than some straps on Aliexpress and the clasp still had sharp edges which I had to do some filing down of the metal - yet still not comfortable. I don't think I am going to buy Artem again. Had such high hopes.

    • @chia-mingyang5804
      @chia-mingyang5804 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@PeterKotsaI tried an Artem salicloth strap and I am quite disappointed because it's very rigid since out of box and afrer one week of use. I gave it up thereafter.

    • @drdesign6886
      @drdesign6886 10 месяцев назад +1

      100%. Most reviewers I think praise them because they haven’t actually formed out their cash for the straps. And they want more freebies in the future. I have an Artem and it looks amazing, truly top class - but it’s so uncomfortable and hard at times to wear. Never again for that cost - and they are going up in price!!!!

    • @jackiemoon_lms
      @jackiemoon_lms 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PeterKotsa thank you for the response. I have the loopless in black. I have kept it on a watch to help with the molding of the strap and it is still extremely stiff. The loopless clasp is also very tall and irritates my wrist like no other strap has. With a strap and clasp that cost $200 I felt completely ripped off and cannot recommend it at all. Few of my watch friends have experienced the same thing. Very unfortunate as they seem to be highly regarded on social media…
      To make matters worse, I ordered the artem after trying the same style from Amazon for $20 which was comfortable. This prompted to try the “real thing.” The $20 Amazon strap looked identical but was actually comfortable.
      I’m sure it works for some people, just not for me.

  • @bakeapplejam6471
    @bakeapplejam6471 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great job.