We're not in the market for a 5th wheel, but I LOVE Cougar's "Ready for Anything" Dinette and this floor plan in general. And what exceptional foresight with the bunk to desk convertability! I'm waiting til they have something a little slimmed down for 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton truck for destination camping.
I’m digging the L-Shaped kitchen table seating arrangements. I love L shaped kitchens counters and L-Shaped seating arrangements any day. Makes the most sense to me 🤷♀️ Oh and love the Sam I Am too
I'm still saving for one but this comes close to ticking every box. I would certainly prefer the true queen if not king, and I would really like washer dryer hook ups 🥲 we want to full time, and I dont do laundromats. BUT if the rv was great in every other way, I could probably live with those portable washer/dryers you can buy off amazon. The bunk office is really great.
Love white cabinets in kitchen. Outlet is good to have in kitchen but pop up electricity tower would be better. Need a backsplash behind the stove. Love the bathroom. Lose the bottom shelf in the shower. Too close to the bench. Toilet looks nice and tall - great for the arthritis in the knees population!! Might I suggest a grab bar just inside the door for those with mobility issues. Love the desk/flex space BUT that surface appears to be not quite deep enough to put a monitor and keyboard. Been waiting for a decent desk/flex option. The chalkboard is great for kids, but a whiteboard option for adults working on the road would be fabulous and more practical. Task lighting on the underside of the bunk would be great for both desk and bed options. Charger/electrical outlets for upper bunks. Flexible/fold away lights for reading too! Love outdoor kitchen. King option? Queen camp is . . . livable but not preferable for the fluffy crowd. The nightstands are plenty wide enough to give up a few inches. Not understanding the angled fireplace. Just square it off. A flip up cutting board/surface next to sink would be appreciated. I have to wash dishes right to left! 😉🙂 Plus extra prep space. Plus would be a nice bonus when slide is out and you're removing multiple items from fridge, or putting away groceries. Love the L dinette with freestanding table.
This is the one I’ve been waiting for! Our kids are 20 & 18. This gives them room to go, or a place for my husband to work on his RC cars. Thank you for doing a video on this one!
That rear bunk room is legit dude. I really like this one. Really, really like it. We had to go toy hauler but this is special. The dinette is unique. That's a larger than usual storage the way they hinged the bed. Cool unit. 2023 looking good from a new model perspective so far.
Yes yes! Yay for hanging my sundresses! 😃 More space than I need but kudos to the versatility of this one. Still want the TV to be on a swivel arm that swings down. Thanks! 😻 Britt
I generally like this fifth wheel. It’s a good replacement for the 29MBS which I really liked except this floor plan doesn’t have a dedicated pantry. Kitchen cabinets are limited so the pantry work has to be done by the overhead cabinets above the dinette and those will be difficult to get into. The door, fold up desk, bunk feature is a home run and the small ward could be used for shoe or coat storage. The bathroom is awesome and the bedroom storage space is adequate. The versatility is very good with great outside storage.
I really like this one but the bathroom gone with slide closed is a deal breaker for me. I love the desk in the bunk room. I work from the road and I LOVE having separate “office’ area
Missed the mark with a half bathroom. The bunk room is smart how they designed it. The kitchen table booth can be turned to another big bed they nailed it.
Great unit, the only thing I would change is remove the outdoor kitchen, but that’s minimal, love the “bunk” area, we go for months, that’s a great “pantry”. And dog cage area! 😊 the camp queen is livable!
I've got to say the flexibility of that rear room is something very special. Two things I would change are - 1. I would like to see Cougar bump that black tank up to at least 40 gallons. 2. Move the TV straight down to the cabinet below and put it on a televator. If you have to move or loose the fireplace so be it.
Very unique fooorplan loaded with quality standard features like theater seating, a porcelain toilet, standard solar and an attached ladder! Aside from the camp queen bed and maybe a Dollar Store 4” fart fan it’s perfect👍
Josh, you have to quit doing this to us,just when we think we are settled on something, you bring on something nicer. You're doing your job well my friend. But your killing us with the good stuff too LOL!!!
Oh my, this is a great rv. Not what my family needs, but still I was imagining us having a great time in this. I think the office/classroom option is amazing, as well as the bunks. I do like that kitchen. And I love the table and bench combination. Now, if I could just persuade my darling that we need a truck .... Nope, sorry, no sale possible here, but you won't need us, you're going to have customers lining up to throw their money at you. All the best to you and yours Josh.
I think this one of the best Cougar 5th wheel Travel Trailers I've seen!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Yes I think Cougar should reverse those refrigerator doors 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
I like their floor plan. That is a great idea on the frig, just makes better since and an added luxury to the buyer. The true queen in the master bedroom would be a real benefit for the long legged folks, but for me, it works great as is, because I'm a shorty. lol Love the cargo door for the extra storage of larger items. Have a great week.
The fridge doors should definitely be switched. I don't mind the short queen, but I do mind not having a washer/dryer (stackable or combo). I'm going full-time next summer and this would be perfect for my daughter and me if it had a washer/dryer.
Thanks again Josh! Love the cabinetry in the bedroom but the camp queen is a deal breaker. Yes, change the way the fridge opens. Would never pull a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton truck.
Love love ❤️ this floorplan! The bike door storage/bunk/office room is exactly what I need for guests/remote work/dog crates. And the weight is nice and easy for my 2500HD. The no road-mode bathroom is most definitely a deal breaker for me though. 😔
Also love no slides on the camp side, plenty of solar, 12v fridge, and tiny camp kitchen.... come on Cougar... figure out that bathroom and give me a real queen bed please.
Hi Josh, this layout is nice, except there's no pantry in the kitchen. The only storage for dry goods is in the bunk room, I think they should have put in a booth dinette and added a pantry in the kitchen, so there's bunk room storage.
I have a similar layout on my Jayco HTX 26rlx. Minus the bunk. I lose my bath and bed with sl8de in. I can sleep in the pullout and my pullout is nice. Not really an issue. Open the slide to take a shower. Honestly I love the bunk room and might trade. I tow with a Nissan Titan XD or get a Heavy Half.
I think they nailed it. Can't wait to show it to the wife. See if this would work for her over the "mid bunk/bonus room" type units that are so much longer. Would rather stay shorter to be able to move around better. Really like the floating table/L shaped dinette situation. Great opturings on this one. I would replace the mattress with a true queen even it came with one. LOL with Dr. Seuss drawers stuff. Although I don't know what syntax means! Thanks Nerd!
Uncle Josh, it an accepted fact that you are among the most knowledgeable and respected RV retail and repair experts. You clearly have your thumb on the engineering and construction pulse of the industry. You are right where the rubber meets the road when it comes to marketing, buying and operating all stripes of rigs from Class "A" to "Toyhauler," and everything in between. I understand your concern about the "HT" name. But it's just a label, not a model classification or category like
To finish the above thought which was sent prematurely: Class "A" or "5thW." Isn't the real problem with RV retailers allowing newbies to leave the dealership under a false impression? The novice doesn't know the importance of tow capability of their pick up until it is explained to them. The retail industry and manufacturers can't assume Rookie RV operators know the difference between a half-ton or three-quarter ton tow vehicle. Doesn't someone have to make sure the newbie reads and understands the importance of the yellow sticker? The industry can police itself and forbid use of the "Half-ton" designation. But, that still won't change the info on the yellow sticker by which operators must abide to drive any 5thW safely.
Love the concept! But all the storage is up high (Hey! Not everyone has balding problems from scraping their domes on RV ceilings!). I think a floor-to-ceiling pantry would seal the deal for us.
High storage is normal in a lot of fifth wheels I fear And when it’s not low I see people say “they wasted the space up there” I never know what the right answer would be
Uncle Josh……..they “nailed” this one. It is very flexible especially with that rear bunkhouse / office / storage area. The Camp Queen size bed is not a problem for us. Unlike Uncle Josh, we are all “height challenged”. I like that this is not an overly long unit.
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV Sorry for the late reply. I would love to see the kitchen and livingroom separated. They should also add a desk in livingroom.
N/A on these. That’s actually something not commonly found in this class until you get larger. Eagle HT is unusual in that they do have a gen prep option
I really like this floor plan a lot! I think there may be enough room to put a big enough opening to load a motor cycle/ dirt bike/ e-bike from the street side with a ramp
I have been waiting for this video since I heard it was on the way. Honestly, I would take it for that back room, and because I first fell for the 24RDS >>BUT I must go for the 2023 23MLE. I will give up the back room and the fireplace (😔) JUST TO HAVE ACCESS to the bathroom and the Bedroom in road mode. I have been researching and thinking about what would be my 1st fifth wheel and honestly, road mode is very important to me. I want to be able to access everything on the road, including my bed. I am happy you did this video. As I said, I was waiting on it to make a final decision. After watching all your stuff & although this space would be better for the kids, the 23MLE is what's for me. I will get a pull out sofa and they can sleep there or outside in a tent 😆. They will be with me just a few more years (15&12) and then I just need room for me so it all makes sense. Thanks Josh! Had it been open for road mode... yes.
wow I absolutely LOVE the kitchen/table/sofa area. its perfectttttt. best layout yet i have seen especially in a somewhat smaller RV. The bathroom countertop..sorry..i just gotta have more space. The bedroom...would be nicer to have a true queen...sheets and all easier to find. I really like the nightstands on each side of the bed. perfect there too.. LOVEEEEEEEEEE the bunk room. I dont like bunk rooms at all but this one...Sweettttt. no washer dryer connections...darn. Overall I realllyyyy like this one. (oh one thing that really bothered me..those darn steep steps up to bdrm. ugh. bad knees here.
Great bunk office flex space. Great kitchen counter space. Great camp side windows. Well executed bathroom and bedroom. One problem - hyperdeck flooring. I’m a mechanical engineer there are easy cheap load and pull tests they could do to prove it but they don’t I wonder why. Just change to plywood like Freedom Express did!!!!
May I ask where you saw pull test data and how I can get my hands on it? I'd love to actually see something like that I've also not heard of them having issues with their floors breaking down despite this system being out there for years I do feel plywood is a great way to go though without question. Rockwood and Freedom Express both felt the same as you mentioned as they moved away from laminated floors
Josh I’m an engineering nerd. I haven’t seen any data I wish the manufacturer would just do some tests. If you Google image simple beam load tests they could do that easily. They also could screw some bolts into the material an do a simple pull test. They have a video saying it’s great with no data to support it. It just seems not worth the trouble to do laminated floor when they could just buy plywood. I think freedom express came to that conclusion.
I really like this one. Not a fan of grey but it does look nice in this one. The refrigerator door needs to open to the living area/kitchen. Apparently, the designer of that does not cook or get their own drinks. As long as the slide can open enough to get through, this would work.
My husband and I have been looking for a travel trailer floor plan with room for crafting and have started looking at bunk house models where the bunk area could be converted to crafting/working/storage space. I'd love to see this floor plan in a travel trailer.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for sending this, Josh. I'm not sure how I feel about the steps up to the bunk area because, as a couple, we don't really need the extra storage underneath. Also, it appears the bunk doesn't flip up (except to get to the storage) but maybe it would be easy enough to remove the bunks altogether. If you can think of a truly convertible bunk model, please let me know.
Hey Josh! We love and are considering this Cougar 1/2 ton instead of a Rockwood that doesn’t have anything like this! We want to know about the Keystone Hyperdeck technology. It’s been out there for a few years now. How are those floors holding up? Also, why doesn’t Cougar use Azdel??
Pretty snazzy, I like the bunk/office/mini garage concept, but it needs some tweaking, such as the access door moved to the back, so longer item can be loaded in. It's good to hear they will be flipping the fridge doors, such an easy thing to do. And i'm guessing thats a rack and pinion slide so it could be partially opened for quick stop bathroom access? And now a question more general... What does full time warranty mean? If an RV does not have a full time warranty and I'm on the road for 365 days, I'm not covered, but at 364 days I am? Can you expand on the practical issues involved in warranty coverage full time vs non fulltime?
fridge should open other way yes, even when slide open and in normal use, the other way still seems better for standard use. for bedroom, just toss in a full queen... really they dont need to include one, can keep a cheap camp queen in there, i would probably just buy my own queen mattress when ready.... i could probably get a better one for same or less money than one from the factory, a 1000 dollar mattress you get yourself will be nicer than a 1000 dollar mattress from factory i would think, or at least more to your specific liking anyway.... so a cheap camp queen mattress is fine.. anyone who can buy the truck and the trailer i am sure would have no problem ordering their own for 1k more, would only need to sleep on camp queen the first trip home with it really, order one when get home.... unless just dont want to mess with it. pretty cool cargo bunk room, would make a good work bench or desk indeed, top bunk could be all storage. very nice little 5th wheel, i would consider it a favorite in this size not being toy hauler model, still room for small toys, bikes, smaller scooter to ride to store etc. love dinnette and living area as well, also very versatile and good for company both. great unit, may not be my first personal choice, but i would not refuse to take it off the lot by no means either, only thing missing is washer combo, which no room for here, not a deal breaker either, all the rest fits, checks most all the boxes, nice job on outside kitchen making it fit, didnt really expect one on this unit... for those who have that single teenager traveling with them, perfect room for them, for me it would be more of work station, place to clean my magic fire wands, store bicycle, great room for many uses.
It is really interesting. I like this style bunk better so it can be useful when you don't need bunks. I might like a window or a screen for that back area. I always prefer the queen bed being taller, but if it is not comfortable and being tossed it is fine. I don't like not being able to get to the bathroom in road mode. I would probably go with another option. I assume it can be stlightly opened if you need to get by right? Thanks for another interesting one.
Now that would be the perfect 5th wheel for me if I could put a side door on that in the back and make it a garage space for my motorcycle or my atv. That is the 5th wheel I am wanting but nobody makes one! I think it would be a good seller if they did. Under 35’.
Uncle Josh, great review as always and appreciate the Enlisted member shoutout. Quick question. How deep is that quasi "office area" desk? I work from home and I'm curious is it deep enough that I could set a large monitor, keyboard and mouse.
When we seen this camper we really disliked the door to the kids room but can see how that could be great storage now with this video. The fridge is just wrong. Another thing you discussed. Bathroom would have been nice for access. A true pantry is a must for long trips. Like it but it missed the mark.
We toured this model last weekend.. REALLY liked it, BUT, the desk mode wasn't very fluffy friendly. That's the ONLY negative we had though, really liked the layout! I'd add a foot in length and devote it entirely to the back room.
Our needs would be to have a substantial top grade quality mattress. We will be replacing whatever mattress is there unless it is top quality no matter the size.
MFGs just don’t spend big dollars on something when it’s highly preferential. I would advise to plan on adding a mattress to your purchase regardless of brand
Keep the overall length and add a Full queen. Please lose the BAL Acuslide system on the main slide, switch to a rack and pinion. Just add the second AC as standard and please dump it into the ducted racetrack system so you she two units feeding them.
Losing bath and bed in transit is always a nope for me. Also, The true queen would be worth it to me. Tv being up high is livable if it’s at least directly in front of me on the couch.
@@JoshtheRVNerd toy haulers have laundry hookups in the back, in the garage. There’s no other place you can install them in that trailer. I rather have an option and the versatility than not. Washing machine is an invaluable appliance to many.
@@richardjeun not quite the same. Dead on the rear wall isn’t warranted by the WD appliance suppliers. Toys haulers have hookups on the forward wall of the garage above the axles where they’re not bouncing nearly as much
@@JoshtheRVNerd true, but my machine bounces anyways on the spin cycle. I just like the layout, but wish they had a hookup for the washer somewhere. With so many variables, it’s so hard to find the perfect one for me.
Overall, I really like the camper. Pros for me are the rear bunk room/office, the spacious central living area, the solar packages and the long list of standard features. Cons for me are the camp queen bed (I am 6'4"), the location/placement of the outdoor shower under the awning instead of the back side of the camper, and the placement of the awning. I am neutral about the slide blocking access to the bed and bath when in travel mode. My current camper you have move the slide outwards to access the kitchen or the bathroom, so although inconvenient, it isn't a deal breaker. For the outdoor shower, who wants to create a wet mess next to the outside kitchen and/or on your patio rug/mat? Just a bad idea. With the wet bay on the other side, who needs an outdoor shower in this location anyway? As for the awning placement, look at that huge, uncovered space aft of the entry door. Where are you supposed to slide the picnic table under the awning where it won't be in the way of something? Ditch the outdoor shower under the awning, flip the swing of the outside kitchen door and slide that awning back towards the rear 5'-6'. Again, overall I really like this unit, but whoever comes up with these designs really needs to try camping in one themselves.
I get what you’re saying with the camp shower. It’s not a bad point certainly. Some folks really like being able to clean your feet before heading into the camper after being in the sand/lake/etc Everyone’s a little different that way
Josh, if l had a 3/4 ton truck this would be our camper. Hey I was wondering if you have details on how I can purchase a stocking hat like the one in the vid. My local dealer has problems trying to find them. Thanks
Your suggestion regarding the fridge door would not only "not interfere" with daily use, but it would improve it. The whole kitchen area is on the other side, so I'm surprised someone mounted it this way in the first place. Also, I really love that L-shaped dining area. It's easier to access it from any side, and I can always adjust the position of the table to fit everyone comfortably. Well, the office area is also a good idea, but I have a feeling that it's not the most comfortable place to sit for long hours while working. I'd need a real chair and wider desk.
This looks like an amazing Floorplan. On demand hot water heater is a no no for me though. I want the ability to use electric only vs burning propane. No true queen and no access to the bathroom while traveling though means more negatives than positives.
*Hey everybody! Cougar has heard you loud and clear and will be flipping that fridge door!!*
We changed our Cougar to a true queen and although it is a bit tighter it is well worth the effort to replace the camp with a full!😊😊
THANK YOU for sharing this. Appreciate it
We agree Josh, flip the door on the fridge /freezer
Put the High TV on a Toy Hauler pull down mount. The red bottle is not a umbrella rack.
We're not in the market for a 5th wheel, but I LOVE Cougar's "Ready for Anything" Dinette and this floor plan in general. And what exceptional foresight with the bunk to desk convertability! I'm waiting til they have something a little slimmed down for 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton truck for destination camping.
I’m digging the L-Shaped kitchen table seating arrangements. I love L shaped kitchens counters and L-Shaped seating arrangements any day. Makes the most sense to me 🤷♀️
Oh and love the Sam I Am too
I'm still saving for one but this comes close to ticking every box. I would certainly prefer the true queen if not king, and I would really like washer dryer hook ups 🥲 we want to full time, and I dont do laundromats. BUT if the rv was great in every other way, I could probably live with those portable washer/dryers you can buy off amazon. The bunk office is really great.
Love white cabinets in kitchen.
Outlet is good to have in kitchen but pop up electricity tower would be better.
Need a backsplash behind the stove.
Love the bathroom. Lose the bottom shelf in the shower. Too close to the bench. Toilet looks nice and tall - great for the arthritis in the knees population!! Might I suggest a grab bar just inside the door for those with mobility issues.
Love the desk/flex space BUT that surface appears to be not quite deep enough to put a monitor and keyboard. Been waiting for a decent desk/flex option. The chalkboard is great for kids, but a whiteboard option for adults working on the road would be fabulous and more practical. Task lighting on the underside of the bunk would be great for both desk and bed options.
Charger/electrical outlets for upper bunks. Flexible/fold away lights for reading too!
Love outdoor kitchen.
King option? Queen camp is . . . livable but not preferable for the fluffy crowd. The nightstands are plenty wide enough to give up a few inches.
Not understanding the angled fireplace. Just square it off.
A flip up cutting board/surface next to sink would be appreciated. I have to wash dishes right to left! 😉🙂 Plus extra prep space. Plus would be a nice bonus when slide is out and you're removing multiple items from fridge, or putting away groceries.
Love the L dinette with freestanding table.
No king option on these yet. Hopefully they explore that as an opportunity sometime
True queen all the way!
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This is the one I’ve been waiting for! Our kids are 20 & 18. This gives them room to go, or a place for my husband to work on his RC cars. Thank you for doing a video on this one!
My pleasure!!
That rear bunk room is legit dude. I really like this one. Really, really like it. We had to go toy hauler but this is special. The dinette is unique. That's a larger than usual storage the way they hinged the bed. Cool unit. 2023 looking good from a new model perspective so far.
Yeah I think this is going to spawn a slew of clones
Yes yes! Yay for hanging my sundresses! 😃 More space than I need but kudos to the versatility of this one. Still want the TV to be on a swivel arm that swings down. Thanks! 😻 Britt
My pleasure
I generally like this fifth wheel. It’s a good replacement for the 29MBS which I really liked except this floor plan doesn’t have a dedicated pantry. Kitchen cabinets are limited so the pantry work has to be done by the overhead cabinets above the dinette and those will be difficult to get into. The door, fold up desk, bunk feature is a home run and the small ward could be used for shoe or coat storage. The bathroom is awesome and the bedroom storage space is adequate. The versatility is very good with great outside storage.
I agree pretty much across the board
I really like this one but the bathroom gone with slide closed is a deal breaker for me.
I love the desk in the bunk room. I work from the road and I LOVE having separate “office’ area
This a pretty sweet 5 th the interior is good colors an design an yhe little cargo doo can be very handy
Missed the mark with a half bathroom. The bunk room is smart how they designed it. The kitchen table booth can be turned to another big bed they nailed it.
Great unit, the only thing I would change is remove the outdoor kitchen, but that’s minimal, love the “bunk” area, we go for months, that’s a great “pantry”. And dog cage area! 😊 the camp queen is livable!
love this with the back bunk space/office space. i love it wow!!!
Awesome ty! :)
I've got to say the flexibility of that rear room is something very special.
Two things I would change are -
1. I would like to see Cougar bump that black tank up to at least 40 gallons.
2. Move the TV straight down to the cabinet below and put it on a televator. If you have to move or loose the fireplace so be it.
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Very unique fooorplan loaded with quality standard features like theater seating, a porcelain toilet, standard solar and an attached ladder! Aside from the camp queen bed and maybe a Dollar Store 4” fart fan it’s perfect👍
Josh, you have to quit doing this to us,just when we think we are settled on something, you bring on something nicer. You're doing your job well my friend. But your killing us with the good stuff too LOL!!!
Lol I get a message like this at least once a day
Looks like the dream 5th-wheel.
This is my favorite new model this year. This is a great camper
Awesome!!!
I'd like to see soft closing cabinets and a gun safe in bedroom.
You sold me at "OFFICE"! Plus it's a Cougar!!!
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Oh my, this is a great rv. Not what my family needs, but still I was imagining us having a great time in this. I think the office/classroom option is amazing, as well as the bunks. I do like that kitchen. And I love the table and bench combination. Now, if I could just persuade my darling that we need a truck .... Nope, sorry, no sale possible here, but you won't need us, you're going to have customers lining up to throw their money at you. All the best to you and yours Josh.
Lol I’d rather they just hand it to me. Ever get pegged with a handful of quarters?
Well let me tell you something… it hurts!
I think this one of the best Cougar 5th wheel Travel Trailers I've seen!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Yes I think Cougar should reverse those refrigerator doors 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
I like their floor plan. That is a great idea on the frig, just makes better since and an added luxury to the buyer. The true queen in the master bedroom would be a real benefit for the long legged folks, but for me, it works great as is, because I'm a shorty. lol Love the cargo door for the extra storage of larger items. Have a great week.
It’s coming 😉
Really like the bunk/office room in this one, but no bathroom in transit is a deal breaker.
I love having road mode availability. It helps with traveling with little ones or stopping for lunch easily.
I am someone who actually can deal with opening a slide but it’s definitely earlier not needing to deal with it
The fridge doors should definitely be switched. I don't mind the short queen, but I do mind not having a washer/dryer (stackable or combo). I'm going full-time next summer and this would be perfect for my daughter and me if it had a washer/dryer.
Word is they’re making the door flip!
Nice 5th wheel for us. Great job Cougar.
Thanks again Josh! Love the cabinetry in the bedroom but the camp queen is a deal breaker. Yes, change the way the fridge opens. Would never pull a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton truck.
That office set up is pretty slick
Love love ❤️ this floorplan! The bike door storage/bunk/office room is exactly what I need for guests/remote work/dog crates. And the weight is nice and easy for my 2500HD. The no road-mode bathroom is most definitely a deal breaker for me though. 😔
Also love no slides on the camp side, plenty of solar, 12v fridge, and tiny camp kitchen.... come on Cougar... figure out that bathroom and give me a real queen bed please.
I know, right?? This is perfect except for the road mode. So disappointing! 😢
Looks great and very functional. ❤
Hi Josh, this layout is nice, except there's no pantry in the kitchen. The only storage for dry goods is in the bunk room, I think they should have put in a booth dinette and added a pantry in the kitchen, so there's bunk room storage.
Personally, as I'm height deprived, a camp queen is perfect. Now if I could ya double instead.
I love cougars. 😊
pretty innovative! I like it.
Nailed it. Definitely would trade my current 5th wheel in for that one.
I have a similar layout on my Jayco HTX 26rlx. Minus the bunk. I lose my bath and bed with sl8de in. I can sleep in the pullout and my pullout is nice. Not really an issue. Open the slide to take a shower. Honestly I love the bunk room and might trade. I tow with a Nissan Titan XD or get a Heavy Half.
Absolutely full queen! Would be
we are here we are here we are here
BUT ARE WE THERE YET?!
I would like to see a pantry of some sort!
Fair
Great floor plan. Full queen would be a plus. Would love to see a flip up counter next to sink.
Great idea!
If my wife ever lets me trade our current hideout fifth wheel, I’m coming straight to coldwater and picking up this bad boy.
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That's an awesome bunkhouse/office. Loved it.
I think they nailed it. Can't wait to show it to the wife. See if this would work for her over the "mid bunk/bonus room" type units that are so much longer. Would rather stay shorter to be able to move around better. Really like the floating table/L shaped dinette situation. Great opturings on this one. I would replace the mattress with a true queen even it came with one. LOL with Dr. Seuss drawers stuff. Although I don't know what syntax means! Thanks Nerd!
Opturings.. I presume that’s something I said. SOUNDS like something i would say
@@JoshtheRVNerd I think you can make it a thing.
Really like this one.
Uncle Josh, it an accepted fact that you are among the most knowledgeable and respected RV retail and repair experts. You clearly have your thumb on the engineering and construction pulse of the industry. You are right where the rubber meets the road when it comes to marketing, buying and operating all stripes of rigs from Class "A" to "Toyhauler," and everything in between. I understand your concern about the "HT" name. But it's just a label, not a model classification or category like
To finish the above thought which was sent prematurely:
Class "A" or "5thW." Isn't the real problem with RV retailers allowing newbies to leave the dealership under a false impression? The novice doesn't know the importance of tow capability of their pick up until it is explained to them. The retail industry and manufacturers can't assume Rookie RV operators know the difference between a half-ton or three-quarter ton tow vehicle. Doesn't someone have to make sure the newbie reads and understands the importance of the yellow sticker? The industry can police itself and forbid use of the "Half-ton" designation. But, that still won't change the info on the yellow sticker by which operators must abide to drive any 5thW safely.
I cannot tell you how often I do things like hit the send button early
Or my favorite: "See attached." [Nothing attached] lol
Love the concept! But all the storage is up high (Hey! Not everyone has balding problems from scraping their domes on RV ceilings!). I think a floor-to-ceiling pantry would seal the deal for us.
High storage is normal in a lot of fifth wheels I fear
And when it’s not low I see people say “they wasted the space up there”
I never know what the right answer would be
Great unit 👍thanks uncle Josh
Thx Scott!!
Like it except for the camp queen bed. That is a hard no.
Uncle Josh……..they “nailed” this one. It is very flexible especially with that rear bunkhouse / office / storage area. The Camp Queen size bed is not a problem for us. Unlike Uncle Josh, we are all “height challenged”. I like that this is not an overly long unit.
Not height challenged
You’re gravity positive lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd
Well, Josh…….gravity has been tugging at my ever expanding midsection for far too long now 🤪
@@skykeg4978 same lol
A longer version would be awesome!
What would you want to see stretched?
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV
Sorry for the late reply. I would love to see the kitchen and livingroom separated. They should also add a desk in livingroom.
Leave the camp queen mattress. We will swap out for a queen Helix
Love those Cougars. The only thing I didn't here was generator ready? It would make it perfect with that awesome solar .
N/A on these. That’s actually something not commonly found in this class until you get larger. Eagle HT is unusual in that they do have a gen prep option
I need this layout in a pull behind, not a 5th wheel!! VERY NICE!!!!!
Done! m.ruclips.net/video/abztAnqvh58/видео.html
@@JoshtheRVNerd HOW DID I MISS THIS ONE?!?!?!?!? AWESOME!!!!!!!
My husband is 6’3”, sons are 6’1” and 6’6” so we have to have full queen.
tv should pivot and dip down for better viewing.
Drop down could be awesome
I really like this floor plan a lot! I think there may be enough room to put a big enough opening to load a motor cycle/ dirt bike/ e-bike from the street side with a ramp
I have been waiting for this video since I heard it was on the way. Honestly, I would take it for that back room, and because I first fell for the 24RDS >>BUT I must go for the 2023 23MLE. I will give up the back room and the fireplace (😔) JUST TO HAVE ACCESS to the bathroom and the Bedroom in road mode. I have been researching and thinking about what would be my 1st fifth wheel and honestly, road mode is very important to me. I want to be able to access everything on the road, including my bed. I am happy you did this video. As I said, I was waiting on it to make a final decision. After watching all your stuff & although this space would be better for the kids, the 23MLE is what's for me. I will get a pull out sofa and they can sleep there or outside in a tent 😆. They will be with me just a few more years (15&12) and then I just need room for me so it all makes sense. Thanks Josh! Had it been open for road mode... yes.
Fair enough! That 23MLE is just so good
I need to point out that entrance door can be difficult to keep over some concrete pads
wow I absolutely LOVE the kitchen/table/sofa area. its perfectttttt. best layout yet i have seen especially in a somewhat smaller RV. The bathroom countertop..sorry..i just gotta have more space. The bedroom...would be nicer to have a true queen...sheets and all easier to find. I really like the nightstands on each side of the bed. perfect there too.. LOVEEEEEEEEEE the bunk room. I dont like bunk rooms at all but this one...Sweettttt. no washer dryer connections...darn. Overall I realllyyyy like this one. (oh one thing that really bothered me..those darn steep steps up to bdrm. ugh. bad knees here.
Check my channel here for the Cougar 30BHS. Basically same layout without the pesky extra steps! :)
Great bunk office flex space. Great kitchen counter space. Great camp side windows. Well executed bathroom and bedroom. One problem - hyperdeck flooring. I’m a mechanical engineer there are easy cheap load and pull tests they could do to prove it but they don’t I wonder why. Just change to plywood like Freedom Express did!!!!
May I ask where you saw pull test data and how I can get my hands on it? I'd love to actually see something like that
I've also not heard of them having issues with their floors breaking down despite this system being out there for years
I do feel plywood is a great way to go though without question. Rockwood and Freedom Express both felt the same as you mentioned as they moved away from laminated floors
Josh I’m an engineering nerd. I haven’t seen any data I wish the manufacturer would just do some tests. If you Google image simple beam load tests they could do that easily. They also could screw some bolts into the material an do a simple pull test. They have a video saying it’s great with no data to support it. It just seems not worth the trouble to do laminated floor when they could just buy plywood. I think freedom express came to that conclusion.
I really like this one. Not a fan of grey but it does look nice in this one. The refrigerator door needs to open to the living area/kitchen. Apparently, the designer of that does not cook or get their own drinks. As long as the slide can open enough to get through, this would work.
According to the factory, the fridge door will be flipping based on Feedback like this. So thank you!
My husband and I have been looking for a travel trailer floor plan with room for crafting and have started looking at bunk house models where the bunk area could be converted to crafting/working/storage space. I'd love to see this floor plan in a travel trailer.
Here’s their trailer version m.ruclips.net/video/abztAnqvh58/видео.html
Back end is a little different
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for sending this, Josh. I'm not sure how I feel about the steps up to the bunk area because, as a couple, we don't really need the extra storage underneath. Also, it appears the bunk doesn't flip up (except to get to the storage) but maybe it would be easy enough to remove the bunks altogether. If you can think of a truly convertible bunk model, please let me know.
J'aime énormément cette caravane
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Put in a true queen.
Hey Josh! We love and are considering this Cougar 1/2 ton instead of a Rockwood that doesn’t have anything like this! We want to know about the Keystone Hyperdeck technology. It’s been out there for a few years now. How are those floors holding up? Also, why doesn’t Cougar use Azdel??
A little tweaking on engineering: placing the tandem axles slightly closer to the tow vehicle would have made a big difference on the hitch weight.
Neither of us are tall so I really love camp queen bed and more room. Can the booth and desk are be removed to use as pantry area?
Factory doesn’t have swaptions like that but an owner could DIY it
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you.
Pretty snazzy, I like the bunk/office/mini garage concept, but it needs some tweaking, such as the access door moved to the back, so longer item can be loaded in. It's good to hear they will be flipping the fridge doors, such an easy thing to do. And i'm guessing thats a rack and pinion slide so it could be partially opened for quick stop bathroom access? And now a question more general... What does full time warranty mean? If an RV does not have a full time warranty and I'm on the road for 365 days, I'm not covered, but at 364 days I am? Can you expand on the practical issues involved in warranty coverage full time vs non fulltime?
Full time RVing means you can camp the crap out of it as long as it’s not your 100% primary home
That’s true if basically any rv warranty.
this bunk/office space with the 2023 Cougar 30BHS extra bedroom door would be perfect. Did they think of that for 2024? Still wading thru your videos.
The 30BHS hasn't changed. They stuck with their cargo setup on that one
fridge should open other way yes, even when slide open and in normal use, the other way still seems better for standard use. for bedroom, just toss in a full queen... really they dont need to include one, can keep a cheap camp queen in there, i would probably just buy my own queen mattress when ready.... i could probably get a better one for same or less money than one from the factory, a 1000 dollar mattress you get yourself will be nicer than a 1000 dollar mattress from factory i would think, or at least more to your specific liking anyway.... so a cheap camp queen mattress is fine.. anyone who can buy the truck and the trailer i am sure would have no problem ordering their own for 1k more, would only need to sleep on camp queen the first trip home with it really, order one when get home.... unless just dont want to mess with it. pretty cool cargo bunk room, would make a good work bench or desk indeed, top bunk could be all storage. very nice little 5th wheel, i would consider it a favorite in this size not being toy hauler model, still room for small toys, bikes, smaller scooter to ride to store etc. love dinnette and living area as well, also very versatile and good for company both. great unit, may not be my first personal choice, but i would not refuse to take it off the lot by no means either, only thing missing is washer combo, which no room for here, not a deal breaker either, all the rest fits, checks most all the boxes, nice job on outside kitchen making it fit, didnt really expect one on this unit... for those who have that single teenager traveling with them, perfect room for them, for me it would be more of work station, place to clean my magic fire wands, store bicycle, great room for many uses.
It is really interesting. I like this style bunk better so it can be useful when you don't need bunks. I might like a window or a screen for that back area.
I always prefer the queen bed being taller, but if it is not comfortable and being tossed it is fine.
I don't like not being able to get to the bathroom in road mode. I would probably go with another option. I assume it can be stlightly opened if you need to get by right?
Thanks for another interesting one.
Yeah this slide system can open partially and be OK
Now that would be the perfect 5th wheel for me if I could put a side door on that in the back and make it a garage space for my motorcycle or my atv. That is the 5th wheel I am wanting but nobody makes one! I think it would be a good seller if they did. Under 35’.
Uncle Josh, great review as always and appreciate the Enlisted member shoutout. Quick question. How deep is that quasi "office area" desk? I work from home and I'm curious is it deep enough that I could set a large monitor, keyboard and mouse.
Apologies - I don’t have anything with actual furniture dimensions but our team at 800-256-5196 can assist you and hand measure stuff out as needed!
The lighting in office mode looks wonky. Are there any fixtures over the desk?
I don’t think directly but that might be a smart and easy tweak
When we seen this camper we really disliked the door to the kids room but can see how that could be great storage now with this video. The fridge is just wrong. Another thing you discussed. Bathroom would have been nice for access. A true pantry is a must for long trips. Like it but it missed the mark.
Fridge is wrong how? Could you clarify what you’d prefer?
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh just how the door swings. Knowing that it could be switched and they are doing it now makes much more sense.
Josh don’t be alarmed, but you were just in a real life cougar! Your extremely brave!!
And i have the marks to prove it
Uncle Gary's sundresses?? Wtf..Great video thanks for the laughs.
Uncle Gary is a… complicated man..
@@JoshtheRVNerd among other things lol
@@michaelschiessl8357 you get it
@@JoshtheRVNerd your hilarious Josh!!
We toured this model last weekend.. REALLY liked it, BUT, the desk mode wasn't very fluffy friendly.
That's the ONLY negative we had though, really liked the layout! I'd add a foot in length and devote it entirely to the back room.
I didn’t spend a LOT of time at it. Just enough to get the general idea
My 2018 F150 XLT FX4 says the payload is 3,270.. is this too heavy in your opinion?
Our needs would be to have a substantial top grade quality mattress. We will be replacing whatever mattress is there unless it is top quality no matter the size.
MFGs just don’t spend big dollars on something when it’s highly preferential. I would advise to plan on adding a mattress to your purchase regardless of brand
Keep the overall length and add a Full queen. Please lose the BAL Acuslide system on the main slide, switch to a rack and pinion. Just add the second AC as standard and please dump it into the ducted racetrack system so you she two units feeding them.
Sounds good to me!
Does bedframe accommodate a residential queen mattress?
It’s a short frame but it’ll work
Losing bath and bed in transit is always a nope for me. Also, The true queen would be worth it to me. Tv being up high is livable if it’s at least directly in front of me on the couch.
Fair enough! That's why I take the time to close stuff up - so you can see what you're getting
I'd caution everyone about the goodyear tires, my 2022 26rbs was supposed to have them also but came with trailer king tires.
They were not standard on 2022 models but optional then.
Should have put an option for a washer/dryer for that bunk room.
Typically not a good idea to mount them that far behind the axles like that actually. Can bounce the machines too much
@@JoshtheRVNerd toy haulers have laundry hookups in the back, in the garage. There’s no other place you can install them in that trailer. I rather have an option and the versatility than not. Washing machine is an invaluable appliance to many.
@@richardjeun not quite the same. Dead on the rear wall isn’t warranted by the WD appliance suppliers.
Toys haulers have hookups on the forward wall of the garage above the axles where they’re not bouncing nearly as much
@@JoshtheRVNerd true, but my machine bounces anyways on the spin cycle. I just like the layout, but wish they had a hookup for the washer somewhere. With so many variables, it’s so hard to find the perfect one for me.
Why not a little longer (30’)and put a King? I love the 30BHS but wanted a fifth wheel. Also, that back storage door is great on 30 BHS.
It’s not a king but this one has a true queen and cargo door m.ruclips.net/video/WY89bKUMKKc/видео.html
Overall, I really like the camper. Pros for me are the rear bunk room/office, the spacious central living area, the solar packages and the long list of standard features. Cons for me are the camp queen bed (I am 6'4"), the location/placement of the outdoor shower under the awning instead of the back side of the camper, and the placement of the awning. I am neutral about the slide blocking access to the bed and bath when in travel mode. My current camper you have move the slide outwards to access the kitchen or the bathroom, so although inconvenient, it isn't a deal breaker. For the outdoor shower, who wants to create a wet mess next to the outside kitchen and/or on your patio rug/mat? Just a bad idea. With the wet bay on the other side, who needs an outdoor shower in this location anyway? As for the awning placement, look at that huge, uncovered space aft of the entry door. Where are you supposed to slide the picnic table under the awning where it won't be in the way of something? Ditch the outdoor shower under the awning, flip the swing of the outside kitchen door and slide that awning back towards the rear 5'-6'. Again, overall I really like this unit, but whoever comes up with these designs really needs to try camping in one themselves.
I get what you’re saying with the camp shower. It’s not a bad point certainly. Some folks really like being able to clean your feet before heading into the camper after being in the sand/lake/etc
Everyone’s a little different that way
Go for true queen
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Josh, if l had a 3/4 ton truck this would be our camper. Hey I was wondering if you have details on how I can purchase a stocking hat like the one in the vid. My local dealer has problems trying to find them. Thanks
We are getting a merch store worked out right now. Currently we lack a good outlet for that
Is a seamless shower, a one piece shower, an option in a cougar or any other keystone?
Never an option. only something some brands like Montana do and others do not.
Thank you🦋
Never mind you showed the door later in the video
No worries :)
Your suggestion regarding the fridge door would not only "not interfere" with daily use, but it would improve it. The whole kitchen area is on the other side, so I'm surprised someone mounted it this way in the first place.
Also, I really love that L-shaped dining area. It's easier to access it from any side, and I can always adjust the position of the table to fit everyone comfortably. Well, the office area is also a good idea, but I have a feeling that it's not the most comfortable place to sit for long hours while working. I'd need a real chair and wider desk.
Turns out fridge doors are being flipped from the factory now. Cougar seems to listen and respond once again!!
This looks like an amazing Floorplan. On demand hot water heater is a no no for me though. I want the ability to use electric only vs burning propane. No true queen and no access to the bathroom while traveling though means more negatives than positives.
If they add an exterior door in the bedroom you'd have access to the bedroom and the bathroom.
Difficult to do I would think on a fifth wheel with an elevated bedroom
More common on trailers