After examination by audiologist that worked with Lenire, I gave the Lenire a try on October 28, 2024 and after four sessions the sounds caused the tinnitus phantom sounds to increase in volume to the extent for me to experience a deep, deep depressive state of mind. The sounds produced by the Lenire, especially near the end of the 30 minute sessions were so depressing I couldn't wait another second for the session to end! I never, ever expected this as a result of sound therapy and I had to abandon using the device. At $4800.00 it was, for me, a waste of money and it was not returnable. I found myself wandering around my home at 2AM unable to sleep, the phantom sounds so much louder than I had ever had before and so depressed and ended up going outside, wandering around my wooded property with a seriously scary mindset towards harming myself for several hours until the sounds of live crickets helped me mask the phantom noise. I was very freaked out and it took me days and days to overcome the depressive thoughts and scares the device appeared to instill in my mind. I boxed up the device and haven't touched it since
The peripheral nerves aren't being stimulated, it's the cranial nerves. And Lenire's device cannot reliably induce long term synaptic depression due to there being no obvious post and pre-synaptic spikes (continuous noise stimulation). STDP depends on precisely timed bisensory stimulation, which Lenire cannot reliably provide due to the aforementioned audio stim issue and using Bluetooth headphones.
Thank you for all the information and positive feedback you give to all of us that suffer. Many physicians and ENTs don't have the time or the information to help patient's with tinnitus and we are left out to find our own way which can be very isolating and frightening. This channel has given me the much needed hope that there are things we can do to bring the noise down, and lead a normal life and I truly thank you for that. Please keep up the GREAT work!
@treblehealth it looks like the Susan shore device has a timing between the shock and the sound that's supposed to help the dorsal cochlear nucleus neurons. The Leneire doesn't have any timing programming
It does nothing, Why are you even talking about Lenire. Sound therapy doesn’t work. So I have a tongue depressor in my mouth , a sleep band on my head, hearing aids in my ears and noise machines around the room. Please stop it.
Reactive and somatic tinnitus here... sound therapy is the only reason I was able to habituate and go on to live my life normally, and happily. Just wanted to reply to this to someone else who may read comments like this and feel despair about their condition. Radical acceptance is a tough pill to swallow, especially if you are still at the point of feeling severe distress about your tinnitus. But there IS another side to this. ... and my tinnitus can be heard 24/7, I can hear it when standing next to a loud road with tons of traffic, and even above the shower. It's reactive and sits riiiight on top of whatever else I'm hearing, regardless of volume. Also, it's just a noise... my own personal noise machine. It's not going to kill me or truly disable me or keep me from doing anything I want in my life. Accepting that and truly believing it was the way forward, and I was a BASKET CASE the first year and a half.
@@ebrowniebitesI suffer exactly like you when I hear any loud sounds such as car engines, air conditioners, or any external sound. I get tinnitus and I have really given up on this, so I avoid leaving my house. What can I do to get rid of this?
@@hamoalwrafi9201 acceptance and practice with calming yourself down when you feel yourself feeling distressed when you hear the tinnitus. Radical acceptance. Your emotions and reactions are why it is upsetting, not the noise itself.
Since no insurance pays for this treatment, and, the few people who prescribe take your money before you even start - just seems yet another scam to me. It’s all so judgmental and so much expensive time spent that now I trust no one, in particular Treble. I mean if you know most (any?) have $5k to experiment with, why not start there by telling us most can’t even attempt it.
What worked for me is a special tinnitus chiropractor and, although it works, the pain she has to put me through is pretty tough. I would do it again. ( poking hard with her finger both sides in the back of my mouth).
I used the Duo wristband for the prescribed amount of time resulting in no change in the “loudness” of my Tinnitus. I then used Lenire for 3+ months, again no change in perceived volume. Duo wristband and Lenire both use bimodal stimulation, fwiw. Feel free to ask questions.
We understand how expensive treatment can be. We do have multiple options that may be more affordable for you. Schedule a complimentary telehealth consultation: treble.health/consultation
I recovered a lot from the cortisteroid and some medication..my tinnitus was almost not noticeable but then we i visited again to doctor after a month he again prescribed corticosteroid and i lost my hearing he gave 17 more steroid..i did hyperbaric too i didn't recovered...i think doctor was in intention of making money through cortisteroid...and he succeeded in that lastly told me to go for a hearing aid
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We need susan shore device
What’s the latest on her device???
After examination by audiologist that worked with Lenire, I gave the Lenire a try on October 28, 2024 and after four sessions the sounds caused the tinnitus phantom sounds to increase in volume to the extent for me to experience a deep, deep depressive state of mind. The sounds produced by the Lenire, especially near the end of the 30 minute sessions were so depressing I couldn't wait another second for the session to end! I never, ever expected this as a result of sound therapy and I had to abandon using the device. At $4800.00 it was, for me, a waste of money and it was not returnable.
I found myself wandering around my home at 2AM unable to sleep, the phantom sounds so much louder than I had ever had before and so depressed and ended up going outside, wandering around my wooded property with a seriously scary mindset towards harming myself for several hours until the sounds of live crickets helped me mask the phantom noise. I was very freaked out and it took me days and days to overcome the depressive thoughts and scares the device appeared to instill in my mind.
I boxed up the device and haven't touched it since
Bummer. By the way, crickets are the only masking noise that works for me. There is plenty of cricket sound therapy on RUclips when I need it.
The peripheral nerves aren't being stimulated, it's the cranial nerves. And Lenire's device cannot reliably induce long term synaptic depression due to there being no obvious post and pre-synaptic spikes (continuous noise stimulation). STDP depends on precisely timed bisensory stimulation, which Lenire cannot reliably provide due to the aforementioned audio stim issue and using Bluetooth headphones.
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Thank you for all the information and positive feedback you give to all of us that suffer. Many physicians and ENTs don't have the time or the information to help patient's with tinnitus and we are left out to find our own way which can be very isolating and frightening. This channel has given me the much needed hope that there are things we can do to bring the noise down, and lead a normal life and I truly thank you for that. Please keep up the GREAT work!
Yes, that would be 4995$ and 1990$ for service. Thank you, next!
Necesitamos el dispositivo susan shore !!!!!!!!!
How does this differ from Susan shore device?
Susan Shores over 20 years of scientific research vs a habituation device for several 1000 (scam). That's how
Unfortunately, we will not have this information until it is approved by the FDA. Stay tuned!
@treblehealth it looks like the Susan shore device has a timing between the shock and the sound that's supposed to help the dorsal cochlear nucleus neurons. The Leneire doesn't have any timing programming
Dr ban if scientists make any technology machine like MRI machine who can check tinnitus cause test
Tinnitus cure is maybe possible
It does nothing, Why are you even talking about Lenire. Sound therapy doesn’t work. So I have a tongue depressor in my mouth , a sleep band on my head, hearing aids in my ears and noise machines around the room. Please stop it.
Reactive and somatic tinnitus here... sound therapy is the only reason I was able to habituate and go on to live my life normally, and happily. Just wanted to reply to this to someone else who may read comments like this and feel despair about their condition. Radical acceptance is a tough pill to swallow, especially if you are still at the point of feeling severe distress about your tinnitus. But there IS another side to this.
... and my tinnitus can be heard 24/7, I can hear it when standing next to a loud road with tons of traffic, and even above the shower. It's reactive and sits riiiight on top of whatever else I'm hearing, regardless of volume. Also, it's just a noise... my own personal noise machine. It's not going to kill me or truly disable me or keep me from doing anything I want in my life. Accepting that and truly believing it was the way forward, and I was a BASKET CASE the first year and a half.
Absolutely the same here. 20 years now.
@@ebrowniebitesI suffer exactly like you when I hear any loud sounds such as car engines, air conditioners, or any external sound. I get tinnitus and I have really given up on this, so I avoid leaving my house. What can I do to get rid of this?
@@hamoalwrafi9201 acceptance and practice with calming yourself down when you feel yourself feeling distressed when you hear the tinnitus. Radical acceptance. Your emotions and reactions are why it is upsetting, not the noise itself.
Hi do you know anyone who tried Due Neosensory device.
There is way more negative press on Lenire than positive. Thread carefully. By the way it's not cheap!
but this works or its like leniere device that we seen before and didnt works?, how about comparison vs susan shore results?
Unfortunately, we will not have this information until it is approved by the FDA. Stay tuned!
Since no insurance pays for this treatment, and, the few people who prescribe take your money before you even start - just seems yet another scam to me. It’s all so judgmental and so much expensive time spent that now I trust no one, in particular Treble. I mean if you know most (any?) have $5k to experiment with, why not start there by telling us most can’t even attempt it.
The VA pays for it.
I have tinnitus (probably moderate) and facial spasms. Is there a connection between those two conditions?
$5000 later..
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There is some people that tried and it’s really work ?
This is not yet FDA approved so we are awating the results.
What worked for me is a special tinnitus chiropractor and, although it works, the pain she has to put me through is pretty tough. I would do it again. ( poking hard with her finger both sides in the back of my mouth).
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Has anyone used/tried Neosensory Duo device.
I used the Duo wristband for the prescribed amount of time resulting in no change in the “loudness” of my Tinnitus. I then used Lenire for 3+ months, again no change in perceived volume. Duo wristband and Lenire both use bimodal stimulation, fwiw. Feel free to ask questions.
I have long-time problems with tinnitus, but cannot afford this. I doubt that it would help much in my case anyway.
We understand how expensive treatment can be. We do have multiple options that may be more affordable for you. Schedule a complimentary telehealth consultation: treble.health/consultation
See mine now..
PS. The ATA (American Tinnitus Association) has announced no cure..And if they did they'd likely go out of existence..Which makes me wonder......
Most Informative... I am excited to hear about your future research on this matter.
Thank you for continuing to search for the solution to this problem.
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I recovered a lot from the cortisteroid and some medication..my tinnitus was almost not noticeable but then we i visited again to doctor after a month he again prescribed corticosteroid and i lost my hearing he gave 17 more steroid..i did hyperbaric too i didn't recovered...i think doctor was in intention of making money through cortisteroid...and he succeeded in that lastly told me to go for a hearing aid
My hearing wentt mild to severe with cortisteroid..
Follow the money
you lost audition using corticosteroid? prednisona or what did you use it? usually the people recover the audition using corticosteroid what happened?
@@Anubhav-l3r how?? what did you use it? usually people recover audition using corticosteroids like prednisona.
@@Kainkrup i recovered and doctor told me visit after a month... when i visited after a month he started to give more and i lost
Scam
Thank you so much.
Lenire is a ripoff. Sorry. Too expensive. Too little success.