A really good journey into Greenland and its life....the good side of melting ice and boy they deserve it... abit of sunshine for a change! Good luck to them. Stunning landscapes ...the land exposed from the melting ice is amazing to look at.. really enjoyed that flight around thanks
No it doesn't .Sea ice which melts in the summer around Antarctica does not balance out the loss of Glacial ice on land Including the loss of Antarctic land based ice . I can tell this is not your best subject in high school
The earth has gone through cycles of warming and cooling for millions upon millions of years, all without mankind's assistance or guidance. Humankind has never done well at regulating itself yet some feel we should be able to exercise control over the climate's cyclic variations. Even if it were possible to dictate what the climate should be who gets to decide what the ideal is?
Do you understand the relationship between flora and fauna? No one's saying we should exercise control over the climate unless they're an idiot - the climate is taking care of itself according to the circumstances that we've presented it with - whether we can survive the extreme changes or not is another matter, so to help ensure the extremes aren't too extreme, people are advocating that we wake the fuck up and finally exercise self control - or it will be the end of our world as we know it - and not just environmentally, that's a guarantee. Given the relationship between flora and fauna and it's direct effect on climate, we just can't continue burning ever increasing amounts of fossil fuels and destroying ever decreasing amounts of carbon sinks, and expect climate change cycles to be unaffected and consistent with a past that has never seen human activity on this sort of scale, that has never seen an industrial age that exponentially compounds the amount of greenhouse gases and general pollution that is otherwise naturally created.
James Biggar The earth does not and never has had a pristine atmosphere. It took millions of years to generate enough free oxygen to support aerobic life. Then we had ice ages which came and went without any input from humankind. Along the way there were, and continue to be, volcanic eruptions which resulted in vast amounts of particulates in the air yet the climate cycle chugged along as usual. The exact contribution to "greenhouse effect, global warming, climate change etc." by modern human activity is debated but it is in the low single digit range. Will somehow changing the course of civilization to change this minuscule amount really impact the climate cycle? What we have seen is that the theoretical models advanced to demonstrate the impact and results of human activity have produced results so inaccurate as to raise serious doubts about the efficacy of the models. Sure there are cries that we should do something about the perceived problem but before acting must remember the wisdom of "Primum no nocere" when we are called to "trust our elders and betters who know what is best."
Dan Troop You obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Your statements are contrary to 97% of scientists studying and publishing on this subject . There is no debate there is a PR attempt to cast doubt on the topic in the same style as your wise comments . Does your overview of climate "cycles" come from education or Koch Bros
***** Thank you for your thoughtful, insightful comment. My education, formal and otherwise, is extensive and the only thing I know about the Koch brothers is the hypercritical screed from the likes of Sen. Reid. That there is a PR campaign in effect is without doubt. It appears that those who believe in Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change are anxious to have all those not in agreement with them silenced. The "97% of scientists" number seems, at best, specious and anything but scientific. If experience has taught us anything it is that there are no settled truths and the best way to enlighten ourselves is through research and robust debate over the findings of that research. The best way for us to improve ourselves is with an open mind not a self-declared "settled debate."
Dan Troop The feral gubmint's rush to enact the bullshit provisions that the UN's Agenda 21 "solution" embodies requires the popular acceptance of man made climate change. There is no credible evidence from objective research that climate change is a result of western living standards, yet all government research is paid for only with the results being acknowledged by all parties beforehand regardless of the evidence.. Accepting as fact such government "studies" is a shining example of just how such outrageous "solutions" like the impending Agenda 21 are sold to those soon to be enslaved, imprisoned and starved Be very careful when tempted to drop snot over some nippleheaded excuse for president not signing some bullshit UN treaty that you think would "save the world", lest you be shown to be what Stalin called a "useful Idiot"./
But God forbid Journeyman Pictures makes a documentary about the highest amount of global sea ice ever recorded being in 2013 or the record cold temperataures around the world right now.
Note the term "sea ice". Melting ice on land masses is the one causing rising sea levels which we care about. And also, it's sunny and hot as hell where I live right now. Just because you happen to be buried under snow, doesn't mean the whole world is frozen. But God forbid anybody from pointing out these things to you.
There has been no highest amount of sea ice recorded in 2013 it is way below the 20th century average There was record warm temperatures everywhere except the north east of North America.
It's a bloody hard place to fly into for one thing, i mean, trying to actually get there, i live in the west of Ireland, and the easiest way for me would be via Copenhagen, cos it is a Danish territory, but i'd nearly be quicker getting to Los Angeles with the flight times and connections. Saw 'Walter Mitty' at the cinema and in the film, he arrived in Nuuk...if you want isolation....look no further
To coffee cup Maybe rough (relatively) terrain. Raindere running at about 50mph over, up, down, across mountains any which way is not going to be easy in a 4x4. But with a meter or two of snow blanketing over small furoughs, rocks, tree stumps, tufts etc etc. The snow mobil can race faster over smooth terrain. Think of the speed of a down hill skier on steep mountain snow at speeds up to 70mph compared with trying the same thing on a mountain bike. First thing a mountain bike rider does is reduce his speed as he needs to seethe terrain. IE rocks, tufts etc etc. So the wheeled vehicle is limited by a need for safety. A 50mph running raindere springs over a brook in a single flying leap. Try that in a 4x4 following the dere. Hope this helps.
Russia is moving north with the current crustal pole shift. With such a huge land mass moving to the physical north, snow accumulations will generate massive glaciers in Russia's Siberia which will cause sea levels to fall. Ice melt on the Australia side as Antarctica moves north, but increased ice generation on the south America side.
Not sure this year (2015) will be a good harvest year... I checked south greenland city Quaqortoq and it seems they will not see positive day temperatures (2-3 degrees celcius) before this 18. april... It was this warm in greenland around year 1050 and for a at least 200 years...
It is only around the fjord coast where the milder tempretures are. Beyond 50kms from the coast and tempretures are minus 20C. Inland at 200km from the coast the tempretures are minus 30C or colder. That is in the south. Minus 40C in central Greenland at 2m above the surface. Tempretures for November 10th 2017.
+Aigis fan Climate has always changed. It been less stable since the ice ages began. There's plenty of evidence in the geologic record for some pretty extreme climate changes some of which appear to have occurred PDQ. We are in a ice age. When the climate changes some people gain and others loose. Saying it is bad misses the obvious point, bad for whom? Even though the government of Canada is spending huge sums of money to fight global warming on the assumption that CO2 has magically become the only factor controlling climate the hard reality is their farmers stand to benefit hugely and a modest drop in temps would cut their food production to the bone. They wouldn't be able to feed themselves. A point never mentioned by alarmist is that even a very modest increase in CO2 does wonderful things for plant growth all the way up to about 4000 ppm which is about what you get in a typical crowded room.
Actually Dwight, studies show that the effect of CO2 on our crops in the concentrations we have is slight and outweighed by the ability of weeds to take advantage, not to mention changes in rainfall. Global warming is going to be good for some, but bad for civilization as a whole.
Higher CO2 in the atmosphere will be very good for plant life, not just near the poles, but everywhere. Nobody thinks that global warming is the end of the world. Just the end of a lot of cities that exist on the coast. Another big effect of CO2 concentrations is acidification of the oceans. There will be a lot of extinctions in the coming days, but humans will survive, probably even thrive, in warmer weather with more plants. Personally, I think it's evil and selfish to willingly cause mass extinctions, but from an anthropocentric view, global warming probably ain't that bad. In any case, we still need to transition away from fossil fuels, since we're going to run out of them, whether or not the ice caps melt.
I agree. I'm also more and more convinced that our contribution to this phenomena is much more limited than the fear mongerers (Al Gore) would have us believe. The planet has been cooling and heating, cooling and heating, for millennia and we've been using fossil fuels for a virtually insignificant amount of time in the broad picture. Thanks to the likes of Nikola Tesla, free energy is just waiting for the small group of psychopaths currently in charge, destroying everything and bent on ruling the world, to get out of the way and leave the rest of us to get on with the joys of being alive on this beautiful blue planet.
zzasdfwas Ah. You think humans are mainly responsible? Quite right, then. We disagree. But it would be pretty boring if we all thought the same way, so all the best to you.
Do you have a science degree? Explain how simple it is. Don't forget to include the fact that 1/3 of the earth's land surface is currently desert in your 'thesis', and why...
James Biggar Warmer + wetter = more life. We may suffer in numbers but the actual biomass of life will increase most likely as the climate warms. Look at the thaw in Greenland, If the artic where to thaw to... Plenty of places that are deserts now will see rain again and new lake/rivers are forming. What we hear about is the negative effects but apart from more extremes that we may encounter, it is actually a good thing. Ice is new to the planet btw. I think they now say it has only been around for 2 million years.
More life, fewer humans, and those fighting over the remaining resources. Malaria across Northern Europe and the USA. Locusts, TzeTze flies, venemous snakes and spiders,. That has got to be good !
It does not surprise me that deniers would think this is a good thing... that's as far as their understanding will take them... "Warm Good"... sad... smh
Well they wouldn't. Only aggressive societies and dogmatic societies were creating empires. Look at ancient Rome: to serve in the military was a religious duty of every true Roman. They looked down on conquered cultures and their lifestyle imposed on them was seen as something better, progress. Similar delusions of grandeur is characteristic of every conquest and military focused nation, Murica has no shortage of it. They claim to bring democracy to every country they wreck with their military, when in reality US election system is one of the least democratic processes ever devised.
+mr. cubes There are 67.000 people in Greenland and the country is bigger than all countries in South America together. I am surprised that they built streets somewhere.
Um, yeah, if you look at a map you can figure this out. Hey, Russia's going to benefit too. Toronto and Vancouver are going to become even more popular immigration sites than they already are. You can learn all sorts of things from maps. Like the world's two largest countries are also two of the coldest, with huge amounts of land barely inhabitable. Try looking at a map centered on the north pole. But if you look carefully, you'll see that two of the world's most populous nations are right below those large nations, and won't really benefit so much from global warming. It's been two hundred years since the US and Canada had a war, but Russia and China have very different conceptions of what Manchuria is and who it historically belongs to.
***** You ever take a glass with ice, and water in, and leave it on the counter, condensation forms on outside of the glass, yep, you start cooling off that big glass of water your going to have 40 days, and 40 nights of rain like you have never seen! Were lucky, probably won't entirely happen while were alive, but it's a never ending process, ice age is probable at the end of that cycle of melting, I believe swiftly at that point...
A really good journey into Greenland and its life....the good side of melting ice and boy they deserve it... abit of sunshine for a change! Good luck to them. Stunning landscapes ...the land exposed from the melting ice is amazing to look at.. really enjoyed that flight around thanks
Keep in mind that the ice is gaining momentum in the southern hemisphere. Eventually it all balances out
No it doesn't .Sea ice which melts in the summer around Antarctica does not balance out the loss of Glacial ice on land Including the loss of Antarctic land based ice . I can tell this is not your best subject in high school
Gaining momentum, except that it isn't.
Less ice means more heat is absorbed from the sun so the exact opposite accelerated melting will happen.
Ice is gaining in Antarctica in your dreams buddy.
Now Greenland can really be a greenland.
... again 😏
The earth has gone through cycles of warming and cooling for millions upon millions of years, all without mankind's assistance or guidance. Humankind has never done well at regulating itself yet some feel we should be able to exercise control over the climate's cyclic variations. Even if it were possible to dictate what the climate should be who gets to decide what the ideal is?
Do you understand the relationship between flora and fauna? No one's saying we should exercise control over the climate unless they're an idiot - the climate is taking care of itself according to the circumstances that we've presented it with - whether we can survive the extreme changes or not is another matter, so to help ensure the extremes aren't too extreme, people are advocating that we wake the fuck up and finally exercise self control - or it will be the end of our world as we know it - and not just environmentally, that's a guarantee. Given the relationship between flora and fauna and it's direct effect on climate, we just can't continue burning ever increasing amounts of fossil fuels and destroying ever decreasing amounts of carbon sinks, and expect climate change cycles to be unaffected and consistent with a past that has never seen human activity on this sort of scale, that has never seen an industrial age that exponentially compounds the amount of greenhouse gases and general pollution that is otherwise naturally created.
James Biggar The earth does not and never has had a pristine atmosphere. It took millions of years to generate enough free oxygen to support aerobic life. Then we had ice ages which came and went without any input from humankind. Along the way there were, and continue to be, volcanic eruptions which resulted in vast amounts of particulates in the air yet the climate cycle chugged along as usual. The exact contribution to "greenhouse effect, global warming, climate change etc." by modern human activity is debated but it is in the low single digit range. Will somehow changing the course of civilization to change this minuscule amount really impact the climate cycle? What we have seen is that the theoretical models advanced to demonstrate the impact and results of human activity have produced results so inaccurate as to raise serious doubts about the efficacy of the models. Sure there are cries that we should do something about the perceived problem but before acting must remember the wisdom of "Primum no nocere" when we are called to "trust our elders and betters who know what is best."
Dan Troop
You obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Your statements are contrary to 97% of scientists studying and publishing on this subject . There is no debate there is a PR attempt to cast doubt on the topic in the same style as your wise comments . Does your overview of climate "cycles" come from education or Koch Bros
***** Thank you for your thoughtful, insightful comment. My education, formal and otherwise, is extensive and the only thing I know about the Koch brothers is the hypercritical screed from the likes of Sen. Reid. That there is a PR campaign in effect is without doubt. It appears that those who believe in Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change are anxious to have all those not in agreement with them silenced. The "97% of scientists" number seems, at best, specious and anything but scientific. If experience has taught us anything it is that there are no settled truths and the best way to enlighten ourselves is through research and robust debate over the findings of that research. The best way for us to improve ourselves is with an open mind not a self-declared "settled debate."
Dan Troop The feral gubmint's rush to enact the bullshit provisions that the UN's Agenda 21 "solution" embodies requires the popular acceptance of man made climate change. There is no credible evidence from objective research that climate change is a result of western living standards, yet all government research is paid for only with the results being acknowledged by all parties beforehand regardless of the evidence.. Accepting as fact such government "studies" is a shining example of just how such outrageous "solutions" like the impending Agenda 21 are sold to those soon to be enslaved, imprisoned and starved Be very careful when tempted to drop snot over some nippleheaded excuse for president not signing some bullshit UN treaty that you think would "save the world", lest you be shown to be what Stalin called a "useful Idiot"./
But God forbid Journeyman Pictures makes a documentary about the highest amount of global sea ice ever recorded being in 2013 or the record cold temperataures around the world right now.
And some of the hottest on the other side of the planet!
bummaggots Don't expect these knuckle heads to understand, they can't think outside of their conspiracy bubbles.
Note the term "sea ice". Melting ice on land masses is the one causing rising sea levels which we care about. And also, it's sunny and hot as hell where I live right now. Just because you happen to be buried under snow, doesn't mean the whole world is frozen. But God forbid anybody from pointing out these things to you.
There has been no highest amount of sea ice recorded in 2013 it is way below the 20th century average There was record warm temperatures everywhere except the north east of North America.
Harry Seldon There are already better quality grapes further north in Britain
Make science, not war.
It's a bloody hard place to fly into for one thing, i mean, trying to actually get there, i live in the west of Ireland, and the easiest way for me would be via Copenhagen, cos it is a Danish territory, but i'd nearly be quicker getting to Los Angeles with the flight times and connections. Saw 'Walter Mitty' at the cinema and in the film, he arrived in Nuuk...if you want isolation....look no further
Absolutely loved this film. Subscribed.
A look at Greenland that I never knew. Thanks for the documentary.
Good clip. It show the problems and worries of global warming, but also the new potentials. We only have to adapt to it.
It used to be green and is returning to it. It will survive again.
It will also rise sea levels
+ivan reid
There is plenty of room in Greenland for Dutch people.
If he could round them up by snowmobile, why could he not try using a four-wheeler? Don't quite understand that part.
To coffee cup
Maybe rough (relatively) terrain. Raindere running at about 50mph over, up, down, across mountains any which way is not going to be easy in a 4x4. But with a meter or two of snow blanketing over small furoughs, rocks, tree stumps, tufts etc etc. The snow mobil can race faster over smooth terrain.
Think of the speed of a down hill skier on steep mountain snow at speeds up to 70mph compared with trying the same thing on a mountain bike. First thing a mountain bike rider does is reduce his speed as he needs to seethe terrain. IE rocks, tufts etc etc. So the wheeled vehicle is limited by a need for safety. A 50mph running raindere springs over a brook in a single flying leap. Try that in a 4x4 following the dere. Hope this helps.
Wow, so fantastic place
Russia is moving north with the current crustal pole shift. With such a huge land mass moving to the physical north, snow accumulations will generate massive glaciers in Russia's Siberia which will cause sea levels to fall. Ice melt on the Australia side as Antarctica moves north, but increased ice generation on the south America side.
Not sure this year (2015) will be a good harvest year... I checked south greenland city Quaqortoq and it seems they will not see positive day temperatures (2-3 degrees celcius) before this 18. april...
It was this warm in greenland around year 1050 and for a at least 200 years...
It is only around the fjord coast where the milder tempretures are. Beyond 50kms from the coast and tempretures are minus 20C. Inland at 200km from the coast the tempretures are minus 30C or colder. That is in the south. Minus 40C in central Greenland at 2m above the surface. Tempretures for November 10th 2017.
The indigenous people and Europeans living side by side with peace that is something new.
i would love to live there and farm as a simple man. have a simple life without worrying about tax and money. ill brew my own beer and wines
I still think that melting ice caps is a bad thing no matter what.
+Aigis fan Climate has always changed. It been less stable since the ice ages began. There's plenty of evidence in the geologic record for some pretty extreme climate changes some of which appear to have occurred PDQ. We are in a ice age. When the climate changes some people gain and others loose. Saying it is bad misses the obvious point, bad for whom? Even though the government of Canada is spending huge sums of money to fight global warming on the assumption that CO2 has magically become the only factor controlling climate the hard reality is their farmers stand to benefit hugely and a modest drop in temps would cut their food production to the bone. They wouldn't be able to feed themselves. A point never mentioned by alarmist is that even a very modest increase in CO2 does wonderful things for plant growth all the way up to about 4000 ppm which is about what you get in a typical crowded room.
Actually Dwight, studies show that the effect of CO2 on our crops in the concentrations we have is slight and outweighed by the ability of weeds to take advantage, not to mention changes in rainfall.
Global warming is going to be good for some, but bad for civilization as a whole.
lets all change our behaviors not to let greenlanders benefit from global warming.
OMG, SKYRIM, DAWNSTAR is turning green
Higher CO2 in the atmosphere will be very good for plant life, not just near the poles, but everywhere. Nobody thinks that global warming is the end of the world. Just the end of a lot of cities that exist on the coast. Another big effect of CO2 concentrations is acidification of the oceans. There will be a lot of extinctions in the coming days, but humans will survive, probably even thrive, in warmer weather with more plants. Personally, I think it's evil and selfish to willingly cause mass extinctions, but from an anthropocentric view, global warming probably ain't that bad. In any case, we still need to transition away from fossil fuels, since we're going to run out of them, whether or not the ice caps melt.
I agree. I'm also more and more convinced that our contribution to this phenomena is much more limited than the fear mongerers (Al Gore) would have us believe. The planet has been cooling and heating, cooling and heating, for millennia and we've been using fossil fuels for a virtually insignificant amount of time in the broad picture. Thanks to the likes of Nikola Tesla, free energy is just waiting for the small group of psychopaths currently in charge, destroying everything and bent on ruling the world, to get out of the way and leave the rest of us to get on with the joys of being alive on this beautiful blue planet.
***** Well, if that's what you think, then you don't really agree.
zzasdfwas Ah. You think humans are mainly responsible? Quite right, then. We disagree. But it would be pretty boring if we all thought the same way, so all the best to you.
***** Thank god that just because you believe something, it doesn't make it true for the rest of us.
bummaggots That I agree with and I still wish you the best.
One can get the title of professor, and have no doubt..... that is sick.
So, Greenland could be green?
sounds ominous to me
Horrible title for the video. And if you watch it they state it's still going to have mostly negative effects.
Skyrim is melting!
Warmer world = more life. Simple as.
Do you have a science degree? Explain how simple it is. Don't forget to include the fact that 1/3 of the earth's land surface is currently desert in your 'thesis', and why...
James Biggar Warmer + wetter = more life. We may suffer in numbers but the actual biomass of life will increase most likely as the climate warms. Look at the thaw in Greenland, If the artic where to thaw to... Plenty of places that are deserts now will see rain again and new lake/rivers are forming. What we hear about is the negative effects but apart from more extremes that we may encounter, it is actually a good thing. Ice is new to the planet btw. I think they now say it has only been around for 2 million years.
***** Yea, it'll be fine. We may crash to 1/2 -2/3 the population. We will move to cities.
Lance Alot I did not say more Humans.
More life, fewer humans, and those fighting over the remaining resources. Malaria across Northern Europe and the USA. Locusts, TzeTze flies, venemous snakes and spiders,. That has got to be good !
Very touching.I didn't know that the global warming is this serious.
and they have the highest percentage of suicide rate in the world.
That's cuz they don't have enough dope.
they dont seem to realise that as the ice melts so does the methane caronate, last time this happened 90-95% of all on earth died
Well, well, it might drownded all of us. The SKY IS FALLING! The ski is falling, I say.
This is GREAT. Because eventually Greenland is going to have to provide enough to feed all of North America. That won't be a problem --- will it?
Thank you very much! So informative. What a hardy people. They will be ok.
Under sea water
Voted down. I disagree! It is a very bad thing to lose our ice caps.
It does not surprise me that deniers would think this is a good thing... that's as far as their understanding will take them... "Warm Good"... sad... smh
scandinavians are really smart people! if they ruled the world instead of usa, the world would be a much better place!
Well they wouldn't. Only aggressive societies and dogmatic societies were creating empires. Look at ancient Rome: to serve in the military was a religious duty of every true Roman. They looked down on conquered cultures and their lifestyle imposed on them was seen as something better, progress. Similar delusions of grandeur is characteristic of every conquest and military focused nation, Murica has no shortage of it. They claim to bring democracy to every country they wreck with their military, when in reality US election system is one of the least democratic processes ever devised.
@@sodalitia true thats why the roman defeated the more advanced pheonicians. They were more violent...
no roads why!
+mr. cubes
There are 67.000 people in Greenland and the country is bigger than all countries in South America together.
I am surprised that they built streets somewhere.
The weatherman "can't"
Interesting
Um, yeah, if you look at a map you can figure this out. Hey, Russia's going to benefit too. Toronto and Vancouver are going to become even more popular immigration sites than they already are.
You can learn all sorts of things from maps. Like the world's two largest countries are also two of the coldest, with huge amounts of land barely inhabitable. Try looking at a map centered on the north pole.
But if you look carefully, you'll see that two of the world's most populous nations are right below those large nations, and won't really benefit so much from global warming. It's been two hundred years since the US and Canada had a war, but Russia and China have very different conceptions of what Manchuria is and who it historically belongs to.
Yeah.... and the cow jumped over the moon
no joking but is kind of scary for the future generation i 32 already i can be dead tomorrow but is going to suck for people in the future
doesn't anyone understand if the ice is completely gone the whole earth would be turned into water
Ice Age is coming...
And you know this how?
*****
You ever take a glass with ice, and water in, and leave it on the counter, condensation forms on outside of the glass, yep, you start cooling off that big glass of water your going to have 40 days, and 40 nights of rain like you have never seen! Were lucky, probably won't entirely happen while were alive, but it's a never ending process, ice age is probable at the end of that cycle of melting, I believe swiftly at that point...
We have been in Ice Age for the last 3 mln years. Get off the internet and go back to school.
Oi reindeer rancher, why not import horses ? I bet it will be cheaper than a helicopter.
What a bunch of narrow-minded pap. Big deal if they might do more farming up there! Greenland's ice holds back most of the predicted sea level rise.