Ghost of Tsushima - The Final Redemption of Tomoe // Sensei Ishikawa Tale Ending
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Ghost of Tsushima - The Final Redemption of Tomoe // Sensei Ishikawa Tale Ending
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I really respect Sensei Ishikawa. I feel he was Jin's most powerful ally, besides Yuna. Despite his stubbornness, and his entrenchment in samurai ideals, he had observed Jin closely in their time together and seen his integrity. So when it came time to pick a side, it was clear to him where he needed to go. Great character.
But doesn’t he get downed a lot? Literally Every fight I see him in, there is a high chance he’s the first to be downed xd
The Boi Well he is an archer so he is less suited for close combat. If an enemy gets close or he gets outnumbered he will go down.
@@theboi3330 yeah. I mean in the story. Like the power of the things he shared with Jin. But yeah lmao he always gets downed cos he doesn't have a sword haha.
@@jordanhann3637 but he can one shot almost every enemy
I thought besides Yuna his most powerful ally was Lady Masako Adachi in my opinion she had the preparedness to do what needed to be done as she had done for her family yes she had a few slip ups but that’s what makes her character well rounded and her pain inside all the more valid
Tomoe: "I'm trying to fix my mistake."
*Takes a boat and abandons Tsushima*
LMFAOO
She would've been killed for aiding the Mongols either way.
Bahahahahahahaha damn
Technically she did. Those were the elite archers of the mongol army that she had successfully trained into deadly trackers and marksmen before she started to deceive the rest of scrubs archers by holding them back with half assed teachings.
That's the reason she couldn't take them alone. Those archers were supposed to be as deadly as she is since she taught them what she knows. She needed ishikawa and jin help to survive.
And also keep them occupied as she left them to fight on their own to catch a boat lmao
@@AMaidenlessRunt tomoe is an ass character
Tomoe : Jin ! you can stay the night
Jin : No ! I can't
come on man !
ahhh i get it lmfao
Jin:"virginity is cool stay pure"
I admire bro Jin´s self restraint!
My Jin is wearing Fundoshi to do this mission
Come on man
Always remember what lord shimura said : “control your emotions jin”
Sensei Ishikawa’s words at the beginning “family is more important” and at the end “promise me you won’t repeat my mistakes” made me spare Lord Shimura
omg i never saw it like that
i just thought ishikawa was urging jin to get laid
i mean that sakai steel doesnt get much action in that department
I killed Shimura for the outfit, no regrets
@@TamagoSenshi thats valid
@@briciolaa lol
Shimura would have died either way if u think about it. He took his honor seriously.
Tomoe: “Jin you can stay”
Jin: “No I can’t”
Me: That is a team decision you just made bro!
An executive decision that I don't agree with 😂
A deadly one
Facts🤣🤣🤣
Lol right
She was cooking up a meal too. He could’ve left that house the next morning with his stomach full and his nuts empty
If Jin was Geralt, Tomoe wouldn't have seen daylight for a week.
Hahahaha
Well Geralt can get out of that kind of mess a bit easier because he's.. ye know. Superhuman and all that. Jin can't really take his chances for some tail. xD
@@kin4386 *don't get lost in the sauce*
if Jin was Geralt, he would have killed her
Hahaha yes! Not even that, maybe a couple of days at best. No getting away from the Wolfs snout.
Tomoe: “My bait never changes... the illustion of opportunity.”
*later*
Tomoe: “Spend the night here...”
She tried it on Jin and it didn't work.
He may lost his honor but not his purity
it's because Jin is not a man, he is a ghost
@@kenpachi1327 ghost with a nice butt.
Ishikawa: I’m the best archer ever and Tomoe is a god amongst archers better then you will ever be
*Sakai kills 5 mongols alone while Ishikawa and Tomoe struggle with 1 each
Sakai: -.-
@Garrett McBride When I left you I was but the learner now I am the Master
@@ratchetexperience8379 so you think you have mastered my way of the bow?
@@dontcare3 well considering I soloed a camp while both getting headshots left and right and was never seen, yeah.
Legit though. With Tadayori's armour I can kill like 7 Mongols before Ishikawa even fires one arrow lmao.
Sakai : "You were saying?"
My manz Jin could have gotten laid frl but he is the Ghost so him leaving was suitable for his name😂
I always imagine Jin and Yuna have chemistry together.
@@lejenddairy
They do, Jim's actually interested in her. It's obvious in some scenes, but she seems scared to care about someone el se after Taka.
@@lejenddairy nah fam. She lowkey blame Taka's death on Jin. Sakai has no time for romance he's The Ghost.
@@MegumiHayashida Lol, you are so right. Jin and Yuna has chemistry being together, but with Taka death, they would never set it off. Tomoe is the best chance for Jin but he blew it off.
Would be better if he laid then ghosted
Tomoe then traveled to a land called Ashina, and teaches a young man named Genichiro
A young, emo man that's a pushover no matter what xD
What are you talking about??? Who's Genichiro???
@@DragonHeart613 never played Sekiro, have ya?
@@wallacesousuke1433 Dam I forgot about that, been quite a while since I last played Sekiro.
First it was Tomoe, then rejuvenating waters then the dragon’s blood...
9:03
Pretty smooth, Jin.
@@williamb.j.blaskowicz.5664 tf man 😂
only to turn her down later on. man’s based
Tomoe wanted that sakai katana😏😂😂😂
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He's asian tho so it could be a Tanto instead.
"Jin, you can stay the night" 😏😏😏😏
@@simonlopez3210 "I may be dishonourable, but I am no simp" -Jin Sakai
XD
Honestly I wanted so much more of Ghost Tomoe and Ishikawa missions. It was so fun running as that trio.
All the ones where the other characters row with you are fun. Like the ok be where you recruit Takahashi and his archers to help you take over a fort, and Yuna and the be rest of the gang join in that fight was one I really liked. I can think of games where you have one notable npc fighting with you, but not like this where I had like 10 doing it at the same time
Jin and the anti-hero Tomoe, meeting again on the mainland in Ghost 2 would be sweet
Jin, Tomoe, Taka and Mai are literally the only attractive characters in the entire game
*True that*
Ishikawas pretty fucking sexy but ok
How you gonna do Yuna down like that?
Khotun Khan?
That's cuz this is still technically early Japan before all of Ainu? died out due to recessive genes and dominant parts of Japan's original invader started taking over.
a combination of that and less preservatives being apparent in daily diet yeah their expressions and appearances make sense. Tomoe living under her Sensei can make her appearance understandable while Yuna is attractive her brother having a pretty face can be explained from her protecting him and his job as a blacksmith protect him.
I mean this game is definitely more realistic in terms of character designs that say the last of us two ababitch
18:03
I got the feeling that that shot wasn't a mistake...
😂😂😂😂😂
LMFAOOOO 🤣🤣🤣
12:31 tomoe trying to find a way to "persuade" jin, but he is too smart for that
Quân Nguyễn Lê i woulda clipped
Jin is an honorable man. He doesn't mix business with pleasure.
VersionBest well, we can call him professional
Bhris LaFlare lol, that is way you can’t be a samurai
Knowing tomoe she would’ve probably killed Jin mid sleep and give his head to khan to regain his trust
12:28
I must consult with the Elder Gods
gold
Somewhat old meme, but still great. Glad it isn't forgotten.
@@FIRE-LOTUS It's actually fitting for Jin
You must Raiden
Lmao
This is probably the side story I cared about the most playing this game. The part where she and the sensei talking about shooting technique made like it even more. Though you never saw her much it was hard to want her to die. Jin was even flirting with her lol.
Yuna would be jealous
@@J_Conner you sure you're not confusing her with Masako? Masako's lesbian/ bi, but Yuna was even in a relationship with that other guy who was a hunter (and more)...there was only one female friend of Yuna who came up and she saved Yuna as a child and I think she was more like a big sis.
@@J_Conner and there was obvious attraction between Jin and Yuna.
@@J_Conner well I guess it's open to interpretations :D
Jason Conner it was masako
24:29 sensei and tomoe arguing about the last answer on the test
Jin: my answer is 6....
Lol 😂😂
Tomoe:You got 0
😂😂😂😂😂 girl stop it
I just shipped this jin and matsu .. and suddenly she is :”tomoe” .. dafuq
Wkwk
she is kinda cute XD ......
OjiKun 1070 yeah dude, i mean tomoe perfect match with jin , and now she is gone T-
@@053chandradanuarta8 and jin will be chased all his life as the ghost , they'll never meet again 😭 i shipped them .. hope the sucker punch make the sequel and put the love story in the sequel XD
OjiKun 1070 yeah , i hope they meet again in kyoto ..
Though remorseful, id still have killed her, to many suffered due to her. Its like would you forgive Ryozu after burning those peasants alive or betrayed you? And even then at least his defense was it was for his men who were starving, Tomoe switched sides when she realized she bet wrong. She had to bail and uses you to escape, lol should of let the Sensei take the shot, Way of the Bow behind her or not you can't simply dismiss the people she's helped butcher.
I mean you can.
People die every day anyway.
100% agree with you
I mean she teach the mongol ,so she wont be killed ._ .. and she kill the peasant “i offer them quick and painless death” so they wont suffer
@@053chandradanuarta8 Jin may lose his honor throughout the game, but he never abandons his principle to protect the people, Tomoe tossed hers aside to survive. Giving them a 'painless death' doesn't really excuse the fact she's murdered her fellow countrymen you swore to protect.
ChaosGaming she is not from the samurai family, she is born and grow up as a bandit until she became ishikawa student .. so :/ the fact she just doing that for surviving .. sry for my bad english, but i really hope she’s become jin ally , maybe when they meet again in kyoto
Behold, the lightning of Tomoe.
*lightning reversal intensifies*
I summon you, Genichiro
*On Arorikika Sowaka!*
Whoops, wrong Series
Tomoe was also the name of a legendary Onna-bugeisha.
Holy shit great reference hahaha
12:31 Tomoe: You can stay the night.... Jin: No Tomoe, I can’t... Jin puts on a mask: But the Ghost can...*Techno music plays* UTS UTS UTS Jin: Puts on Fundoshi Armor UTS UTS UTS
"But the ghost can" killed me when imagining that lol
LMAOAJSJHSUWUD
I’m crying
You cured my asthma, thank you
That played out in my head wonderfully lol.
I've seen several people claim Tomoe was redeemed. I don't see it. She simply re-ratted long enough to get out of Jin & Ishikawa's reach. She was angered at being a mere tool, and frustrated that she failed to deliver on her promise to kill Jin & the Sensai. So she fled.
Of course, all she did was take out some archers for us, but that barely makes up for anything.
Tomoe was not redeemed at all.
I was a bit disappointed by this ending, honestly. I kinda hope this hunt continues in a sequel.
@@VariableZero I really want another ghost of tsushima. I finished the game in 2 weeks
Her sexyness redeems her 😍 😂😂
I was always wondering if Tomoe was going to be a cutie as I did sidequest after sidequest.
Bro, she's freaking adorable.
Tomoe is a psychopath, she's just acting that way. Don't forget the corpses full of japanese arrows she "mercy killed".
Jinn: flirts with Tomoe
*angry Isshin noises
Hesitation is defeat
Isshin the Glock Saint.
Bahahahahaha great reference
HESITATION IS DEFEAT
I like Ishikawa saying "If Tomoe even breathes wrong, I'll put her in the dirt"
03:06
Tomoe: I need to check my snares first.
All the dead horses: Do we seem like rotten poison to you?
I really wanted to kill Tomoe.
And at 16:26 happened to me many times in this game. The ladder is my archnemesis.
Jump toward it, Jin will go on it
yeah i wouldve liked to be able to influence the story more. Personally i wouldve liked to kill her, seems like she shoudve died considering ryuzou and sota were killed by jin. Sota was arguably less guilty and tomoe seemed like she was making excuses, her backstory was shady too.
@@wippyfr At least Sota was willing to take responsibility for his actions and was ready to accept his death. At least Ryuzo did what he did for his men and clearly did not enjoy burning the peasants. Tomoe caused so much more damage than those two and had very little remorse for it. She kept trying to justify herself and thought she was always in the right. She would have needed to do a LOT more than kill some archers if she wanted to redeem herself. It's not fair that she got to walk away while Sota and Ryuzo were executed. She doesn't deserve to just take a boat and call quits after all that. I seriously wanted to shoot that boat with an explosive arrow.
Its ridiculous to me how a character like Tomoe can be seen as a victim by so many people and even get shipped with the main character for the simple fact that she is a woman, while at the same time being a murdering sadist who obviously killed for pleassure.
And like many point out you are *Absolutely right!* Sota and Ryuzo where miles better than her as a person yet they get the villain treatment. Its even similar with the lover of Masako who is the only one spared while every other person who happens to be a guy is killed brutally.
Look, i’ll second guess Masako. But Tomoe was so painfully wrong. We let her go because she says she’s innocent? *Nani the fuck?!*
@Keknov
What we don’t understand is what’s implied. If she didn’t kill for the mongols and provided for them she could have faced worse punishment. The mongols are notorious for their tactics, especially on Tsushima and Iki. They would used captured women as living screaming walls for archer fire. They would cut holes in their hands and tie a rope through them. Disemboweling them and tying them to the head of their boats. Then there is the other stuff that is too graphic. That was just a few things they wrote down in their records. In the game we only see that the mongols burnt people alive, hanged and killed run aways which was tame.
“I gave them a quick death” was what she said, and in the end she was right. She was trying to survive and with how the mongols dealt with the civilians I think she did what was necessary.
Survival is naturally selfish.
who in here wanted the whole mask, instead of it being half broken :( it would've been so cool.
I like it shattered tho. Wish they gave you an option for both tho
Half the masks are garbage anyway
12:36 “No, Tomoe, I can’t”
*Proceeds to turn around and bash head into wooden beam*
"Virginity is like, super radical yo. Blika blika boom blow" -Virjin Sakai
"Not even close. But I'm damn good." That got me
Just finished this game and Tomoe's storyline yesterday. How the FUCK is Jin gonna pointedly and remorselessly kill his "best friend" even after he showed remorse, even after he offered to help fight back against the Mongols and actually correct his mistake. Where as Tomoe uses her own people as target practice, teaches the Mongols the Japanese bow, tortures and burns people alive to try and make it seem as though it were Jin and Ishikawa committing these atrocious actions... and even when you get a chance to speak to her about this shit: "I won't apologize for surviving." and he STILL nudges Ishikawa towards letting her go. If there's EVER a DLC for the main story line it better be Ishikawa letting that arrow fly.
I'd like to say it's because Jin grew and learned from what happened with Ryuzo... but I'm 99.9% convinced Ishikawa's last storyline mission was the last one the development team was working on and they got lazy.
Jin to Yuna: "I know you want to get your brother to a safe place but I still implore you to stay and help us fight for our home."
Jin to Tomoe: "Nah you can go. Even though you're a skilled archer who could be useful and helping us liberate Tsushima would be a good way to atone for your crimes, you're free to ditch our island in a time of need an only care about your own future."
“Showed remorse”
He wanted Jin to use his reputation to save his skin for betraying Tsushima by claiming Ryuzo was an undercover agent.
Jin even gives Ryuzo a chance to come quietly and face justice for his crimes, to which Ryuzo REFUSES.
Yes, tomoe did horrible things but it wasnt jin business, if it was he already would try to kill her, ryuzo was a traitor he made jin getting kidnaped and ¿how does he know hes not playing another trap to him?.
Facts this is another female villains are just misunderstood tropes.
@@user-cj5ew9hm9x as with everything a chick does bro. If a man murders someone he's a psycho lock him up if a chick does she has childhood trauma and needs help. If a man cheats he's a dog if a woman cheats her man did something wrong and drove her into another man's arms and bed.
Tomoe: Stay close
Jin: I get any closer we'll have to share one horse.
Tomoe: What was that?
Jin: Nevermind. Keep going.
:>
What did he mean by that anyway?? I didn't get what he meant..😑 I'm too slow.. arrgh!
It's kinda like Jin was flirting but in a funny way.
@@slimshady933 ah... i see
Hahahaha
For real though, they seem like a perfect cute couple😂
@@user-uj2cq6rd8n I agree. AHHAHAHA
Tomoe 10 min later: “Jin...won’t u stay the night?”
Wow the ending to this quest chain was lame as hell. You spend like 3-4 hours through the game trailing this clearly evil woman, and then in the final quest it just asspulls a bunch of stupid excuses for why she did what she did to try and fail to make you feel sorry for her. And then at the very end when that idiot ishikawa has a chance to do something good in his life for a change and shoot the crazy bitch he’s just like „no lmao, I guess I don’t want to kill her now because she wrote me a sad letter”. What a waste of time.
Play the flute after this mission next to Ishikawa and he'll have some words for you.
What do you mean ? What does Sensei Ishikawa say
@@imperialist4862 He has a few one-liners if you stay with him. Not a full dialogue. Pretty much commending Jin's honour and praising Tomoe's skills.
Stuff like "Lord Shimura raised you well" , "Tomoe would've made a fine samurai", and "she can take care if herself."
You just need to stand next to him. He says those lines even if you don’t play the flute.
Tomoe wanted a little Ghost inside of her 👀👀
A 6 inch ghost probably😂😂
@@user-uj2cq6rd8n did you see it!? Do you like it!?😱
@@user-uj2cq6rd8n no. A "10 feet Ghost"
@@enigma5014 gayyyyyy
@@hugeshalaw you're!!!😎
So I am guessing this is the game version of where Tomoe came from. I like these type of stories they introduced in the game.
Tomoe was a popular name in Japan. Tomoe Gozen died in 1247 27 years before the events of the game start.
When I heard tomoe first thing In my head was tomoe gozen. Sadly she isn't what I expected.( 4 star Archer)
@@zamaskowany12 there's no real record of when she died tough
I liked this story because it had a nice ending, as opposed to the others which were pretty grim.
Which others?
@@SugarW1thC0ffee Masako's, Main Storyline, Yuna's... they are all downers.
@@ogion539 Don't forget Norio's
I really don't thing is a good ending, she gets forbidden for all the shit she did? I know she gives her points but they sounded more like excuses to me, and like sensei sayd, she's a survivor and she'll do anything to survive, I think she manipulated Jin and Sensey hard at the end and played them both for fools and Jin not taking the shot was a big mistake, I mean, they killed other characters for way less.
This is the worst ending given a traitor and mass-murderer gets away
20:17 Why you gotta steal my mans kill like that
When you want to kill enemies to get the ghost stance... but your mates said : *Nope.*
When I first played this mission I was like “ damn what if that’s Tomoe”
😂💯
I did too ahah
I figured it was. You find a mongol convey destroyed by arrows, this girl shows up and talks about ishakawai. Too much of a coincidence
TOMOE wanted a piece of the Ghost
How convenient "theRadBrad voice"
@@OliverSDelly haha,theradbrad 😂
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Yup, his head she would've presented to the Khan.
18:03 oops..
Friendly fire! I repeat, friendly fire!
Meh, she deserved it
@ COD , i miss that so much :(
Oof
Man down i repeat man down ... i mean she's ok
Sensei Ishikawa: Do not look at her, Sakai! Sex is temporary, *archery is forever.*
A lot of people complain about the npc character following of the side quests, but I find it fascinating just to hear them talk and find out what's going to happen. I also find watching Jin grow and mature as he gradually abandons the Bushido code and becomes the Ghost of Tsushima. I can't wait to see what he has become in the next installment(if they are still making one).
I really want new installment. 🙏🙏 That game is masterpiece
I really still don’t think she should’ve been able to live. She had done a lot worse than the bandits Jin basically culls for fun at this point. Had things gone her way many more innocent people would be dead. She “did what she had to survive” she’s but she had an unnecessary cruelty to her and a complete disregard for the safety of her people.
Dude that twist on the woman being tomoe was really good actually a lot of twits in this game were really good and well done
I would like to see her story continued as a playable character. A spin off game or DLC or something
a proper japanese localization should be the first dlc. the subtitles just felt awkwardly with the japanese dialogue.
Ah yes, mainland dlc
@@CloudKXII The people in japan don't need subtitles
bernard sinaga mainland should be a part 2
Why? She obviously plans to live a peaceful life.
12:35 the ghost aint a simp, respect.
Tomoe is actually a beautiful lady. ♡
@Mark D period! I shipped them so hard when she called him handsome lmao they were flirting with each other so much
I ship them too. Handsome ghost and a beautiful born killer. WHAAAAA
TOMOE was low key hitting on him
@@MarvellousMorbing high key 🤭 so was jin
@@MarvellousMorbing low key? She asked him to spend the night lol
At times I Mistake Tomoe for an Oni, the fact that Tomoe's archery skills are that good is just scary, or perhaps.. Tomoe is an actual Oni
Considering the existence of the Kappa, the probably real Tengu you fight for the long bow and the Heavenly Strike being supernatural as sometimes lightning strikes the ground when used killing foes instantly it wouldn't surprise me if Tomoe is an Oni.
@@nbHawkeyeit was a FGO reference tbh 😂
Tomoe was tryin to get some Jin but failed
But if Tomoe evens breathes wrong, I'll put her in the dirt..
Me:God damn..
And at the end he lets her live 💀
The writing in this game is awesome. My first playthrough was so fun. I wish I can forget about the story and play again.
I realised Matsu was Tomoe the moment she started talking about Ishikawa.
Not only did she not even try to disguise her voice, she is literally wearing the same outfit minus the mask from last time.
You could say he ghosted her......I’ll see myself out
Thank you for the walkthrough. One of the best tales in Ghost of Tsushima.
After playing this game i realize, this is had some Red dead redemption vibes into it.
It's Red Dead Redemption but in Ancient Japan
Anakin Skywalker BUT *Spoileeeers*
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Your horse dies WAY BEFORE THE END OF THE GAME
@@CotFish. i already knew that
Anakin Skywalker What if someone that doesn’t know come here
@@CotFish. meh it's there fault for spoiling themselves
Okay, I do NOT hate Tomoe. I like her character. But I didn’t really see her as a love interest and I kinda find it hard to see why people figured that. I’ve watched all videos about her and I see why people made the assumption but I’m pretty sure she asked him to stay was to make sure he didn’t freeze to death. She was being considerate. And I’m pretty sure she was playing a “character” as Matsu to trick Jin into believing she wasn’t Tomoe. I find her character a nice addition but I kinda like Yuna a lot more. Tomoe and Yuna are pretty similar in fighting n stuff, but I really like Yuna’s loyalty. I’m glad Tomoe got to redeem herself, but I don’t think she’ll be a returning character. Idk idk.
I don’t think she really redeemed herself tbh... her motivations were always very unclear, and she made other people suffer at her expense. Rather than being redeemed, I feel like she just got away with a lot of shit she shouldn’t have.
Dulali Paws Yeah, I agree. I feel like, for how well this game handled it’s characters, they kinda pushed her to the side. I feel like her character’s a bit weak and the only real reason people ship her and Jin was because of that one line 😂. But yk it’s whatever.
@@ishavedoffallmyhair If she really wanted to redeem herself, she should've stayed in Tsushima to help you fight off the Mongols. But apparently, she has her own life in Kyoto to care about.
Agreed. These comment sections are filled by 12 year olds and neckbeards who over sexualize everything. There were zero romantic or sexual hints prior to that cutscene. More than likely She was just being courteous and giving him a place to stay, or perhaps she was planning to kill him in the middle of the night in his sleep.
@@ladistar or maybe trying to flirt so she could escape justice
All of this build up to get to her, just to let her go in the end cause she was just, "surviving" and helped take out some archers. Man Sato was just, "surviving" and ended up getting blown up by me for what he did and took it like a champ.
So a traitor, murderer, common bandit like Tomoe gets away even after everything shes done. What a disappointing ending. The lack of player choice is really frustrating in this game - i always chose dialogue options along the lines of "she must be punished" "she cannot be forgiven" etc. and it was all meaningless.
Jin kills Ryuzo but lets Tomoe go free.
@@tonytan5945 Yeah, that makes no sense. Probably because the game had four writers.
@@tonytan5945 Tbf Ryuzo was worse but I see what you mean
@@thebindingblade777 Uh, how exactly was Ryuzo worse? Tomoe got way more people killed than he did and showed far less remorse for it.
I see a few people complaining why Jin let Tomoe go but not Ryuzo.
First of all, Ryuzo is his childhood bestfriend. Imagine all those years together, fighting for your island, only to be betrayed.
Tomoe also betrayed Sensei Ishikawa.
The thing is, Jin gave Tomoe a chance to prove herself to both him and the teacher, and she actually did even if Sensei Ishikawa was still doubting her. Meanwhile, Sakai did the same thing to Ryuzo; multiple times even, but the ronin didn't budge.
If Ryuzo sided with Jin after their fight at Castle Kaneda, we'd have the straw hats by our side when we invaded Port Izumi.
Speaking of which, Tomoe still has her quiver. This probably just SP not bothering to take it off her model, or it could symbolize that the lessons Ishikawa taught her won't disappear. She may start teaching the way of the bow in mainland Japan, who knows?
For just a side-mission, this sure was a lot to take in.
It excuses nothing. She deserves death just as much as Ryuzo.
Not only was she a criminal that betrayed the noble who gave her a second chance, but after what she did to the refugees fleeing to the spring town *and* trying to murder Ishikawa that kept him from aiding in Komada, I think death would be plenty reasonable.
And that's besides, aiding and abetting the Mongols by not only teaching them samurai tactics, but handing over valuable intelligence, and framing Jin and Ishikawa for ambushes. All while taunting Ishikawa and Jin *plus* admitting that *she* had plans for more camps and was, at one point, in charge of her band of archers, only walking it back when the Mongols turned on her (as if it could have gone any other way)
She tries to "redeem" herself by protecting Umi Cove of all places, the place crawling with thieves, straw hats and smugglers, but most importantly *her ticket out.* And they were the archers *she* trained in the first place. It's all a selfish ploy anyways and she jumps ship the first chance she gets to flee to Kyoto in hopes to, by her own mouth, become a criminal again who cheats people in a fancy inn. All at the cost of the lives of plenty of regular people who were *also* trying to survive the Mongols invasion.
She spouts many claims and excuses to try and justify her actions but simply put, why on earth should we trust her word. She only used us in the end to escape because She's a manipulative, narcissistic, coward who took advantage of a lonely man, who loved her as a daughter, to get wat she wants all while switching sides at the drop of a dime and playing the victim.
*TL;DR:* All I'm saying is that Jin has killed a lot more people for a hell of a lot less, and In the words of Sakai himself:
*"The worst one can do is take advantage of ones own people."*
Ryuzo after killing one guy: *breaks down sobbing*
Tomoe after killing hundreds: "I did it to survive and I'd do it again."
@@MichiruYami Yeah, it's definitely strange considering Jin has had a problem with people for doing a lot less than Tomoe. He got angry at Kenji for merely selling sake to the Mongols. He threatened to kill the iron mark guy if he heard he was working for the Mongols again. He threatened to kill the imposter samurai because he was "bringing dishonor to the name", while Tomoe framed Ishikawa for her crimes, literally bringing dishonor to his name.
finally tomoe face in youtube..
Jin was declared as a traitor for protecting people while tomoe wasnt declared as a traitor even though she killed more japanese ppl then jin did
Tomoe was a common thief-a nobody who was taken in by Clan Nagao’s former archery master with no such knowledge ever being mentioned to the Shogun (at least to my knowledge). Declaring her a traitor would mean nothing. Jin on the other hand is a Samurai Noble who is directly connected to the Island’s Jito. As such, his actions are a reflection on Lord Shimura, whether it’s fair or not. Declaring a Samurai Noble like Jin a traitor is life changing, because everyone will now be looking for him and trying to kill him. Not only that, but everything that he ever had, owned, presided over, was ripped away from him and given to another Clan of Samurai to replace him. The biggest difference is status.
@@user-cj5ew9hm9x I wasn’t trying to validate Tomoe, although I can see how that assumption could be made. My apologies.
Anyone else wish the mask you get at the end of the tale was like fully repaired and not broken.
Yes but the broken one is dope too
Makes me want to go to kyoto
Me too
@Ken Penalosa Ruroini kenshin reference ?
I feel like Jin as certain thing for Bad Girls XD
Yuna and Tomoe duel challenge now
Right??? Jin saw Yuna killing a mongol and was immediately smitten with her. Jin hears about Ishikawa's extremely deadly female student who MUST be killed yadda yadda and instantly is like "How about we make her join us instead?".
I was quite upset that they didn´t give you a choice in killing her or letting her go. The redemption arc was very weak, and I only saw her using us to escape. I don´t know exactly what happened between the master and the student; however, she ended up as an unredeemable traitor covered in countless innocent people's blood. It seems to me that a lot of people forget everything up to that last mission and for some reason believe her. The only reason she helpt us was that the Mongols tried to kill her.
Agreed
@@wingsoffreedom3589 does feel disappointing
@@MrBrandonStar women can't be bad just misunderstood remember?
18:02 holy shit you headshotted Tomoe and she is completely unfazed haha
While I understand why she did what she did there’s a blood debt that must be paid... teaching to survive was one thing but before that she was teaching assassins. I love this storyline but the lack of choice I was given towards her fate is definitely some bull. Debts must be paid 😤
if there's a sequel, jin will be a full-fledged ninja and tomoe becomes a geisha. she said she'd open an inn and learn the shamisen. they picked an attractive voice for her, tho her face model is not that pretty.
Idk she looks very beautiful to me
Prettiest character in the game imo with Yuna second
And then they bang and Little Jin tomoe is born🤣
@hahahhah it's nice but I want jin to bang with Yuna
Shinobi, not a ninja
So Ryuzo died because he indirectly killed someone Jin knew. Tomoe didn't so she gets to live?
Ryuzo betray Jin twice and cause another friend to die. He deserved his death, can't manage his men's rampage and can't respect his childhood friend either.
Ryuzo’s a spineless coward though after his double betrayals he still had the nerve to ask Jin to tell the people he was the ghost’s spy
@@erikreyes42 I'm not excusing what Ryuzo did. But you're forgetting what Tomoe did.
@@a_llama Tomoe was just trying to survive though, as if she didn't teach them the way of the bow she would've been killed, and she tried to get them to spare as much people.
If Ryuzo helped Jin take over Castle Kaneda, then there would surely be supplies there that he could give to his men.
Well it's more to it than that but yes, and I have no problem with that.
Wasn't expecting to face her again, afther she jumped the cliff.
It was blatantly obvious we were gonna see her again. Every major character or every character that has a story tied to them has to basically be seen dying otherwise they most likely arent. Common in games and movies. If a character in a game or movie seems like they died but theres no trace, or it wasnt shown to us directly, they arent dead
As soon as I saw her as a “trapper” I knew it was Tomoe. I’m glad Jin wasn’t oblivious to this fact either. Would’ve made him look kinda dumb.
Funny enough when I checked the cliff after she fell I accidentally jumped down it too and landed in the ocean, but Tomoe was nowhere to be found.
How didn't you look wasn't that like part 7/9? Wouldn't be no continuation without her
If there ever were to be a sequel starring Jin Sakai again, I predict that none of the elderly companions like Lady Masako, Lord Shimura (if you spare him) and Sensei Ishikawa will live to see the second Mongol invasion of Tsushima. This leaves a void for an archer in the sequel, and call me crazy, but I don't think what Tomoe did redeemed her enough. She had done heinous things during the course of the game. But you what could completely redeem her actions? If she returns in Part 2 and fights for Tsushima. Not only would it help clear her misdeeds, but it will also redeem Sensei Ishikawa's legacy and teachings.
I think the second game will be in the main land, it won't be Ghost of Tsushima, it will have a different name.
@@IAmQuietWolf Ghost of Hakata lol
It’s got that Batman and Catwoman vibe...I like it.
Tomoe's eyes kinda lookin like Yuna's
Jin needs to insert his katana inside iykwim
I just finished that whole story arc, I am somehow glad Tomoe lived
In the end everyone's a winner. Seisei is at peace knowing he had trained his best students. Jin was conscious that everyone would benefit from helping each other and avoided a greater conflict between Tomoe and Sensei. Tomoe atoned for her crimes by helping Sensei and Jin survive and saved a village, risking her own life. She was very skillful and really didn't need anyone's help to escape. The fact that she left her broken bow and mask behind and never tried to kill the other two proved her honest intentions. Tomoe never intended to replace her master but used his teachings to survive, even in the most cruelest way. The note she left behind thanking her Sensei was an honorable way to end their tales.
18:03
Damn jin, he really did give a shot to tomoe
i fully upgraded the demon bow specifically because i wanted to kill her with it. I deadass thought it would be like a sniper duel or something lmao
Better redemption than Abby in TLOU2
Facts
What redemption?
@@dauntless0711 think at the end when the mc spared her or something
@remelle alcendor So? Again, what redemption? In what way has Abby been redeemed of being an evil murderer? Is it because she likes to pet dogs?
@@dauntless0711 yeah ik he probably meant to say Abby didn't get "redemption" but it was only scripted that way poor writing, in contrast to tomoe who was evil but actually got redemption.
My heart kinda sank when Tomoe said she would leave the way of the bow behind.
13:27 what happened to his voice there lol?
Ar 24:26, when Tomoe talked to Sensei about his Archery, I went "Are you two working it out?"
Tomoe was cute ngl
I understand why people think sparing Lord Shimura was in accordance with sensei’s words, but he said that family is more important, and to not let the ghost consume you.
By sparring Lord Shimura, you are not only denying your only family member their final wish-but, you’re also completely giving into the way of the Ghost. Sometimes putting your family first means putting your own desires to the side and granting what others wish-even if you disagree. Just my take though…
12:31 Geralt: *Sounds good. All right.*
Tomoe: Jin, You can stay the night
Me: YES! YES!
Jin: No... I can't
Me: ........Dude what the fuck!
That was me.
she could've killed Jin when he sleeps you know
@@haziqhashim2618 Jin is good enough to protect himself if you know what I mean
she can change
I hope so.
They must bang in the sequel. MUST.
What I liked was that we got to know more about the Sensei. But I didnt like Tomoe at all, the gamr tried to potray her as a missunderstood character. Even tho she gave the mongols Senseis secrets, she says she wants to make up her mistakes and then leaves the island
Loved your god of war vids and I'm so glad you made vids of a game I've been wanting for so long. Still haven't gotten it so I really appreciate your vids!
I don't understand why he didn't kill her. He killed his own friend who essentially did the same thing as tomoe yet they let her live.
Except that tomoe broke her bow and vowed to not be part of that life and plus she didnt betray them during their fight against the mongols...seriously though, whats even the point at that very moment..shes a non combatant
@@UNSTABLE111 she literally betrayed them. She even taught the Mongols the way of the bow. And for the part that she vowed to not be part of that life- we don't know what ryuso would've done because unlike tomoe, jin decided to kill him right away. So it was too early for ryuso to make any promises since jin didn't give him the time to reflect on anything. Tomoe on the other hand was given time to "change" because jin didn't decide to kill her on the spot.
They're literally the same.
Jin killed an unarmed peasant for giving up some people to the Mongols. Why does Tomoe get to walk free?
Tomoe was a prisoner and had no choice if she didn't want the Enjo treatment. Ryuzo did it for money, and caused MUCH more death since his men actually joined the mongol forces which were actively ravaging everywhere. Tomoe trained a handful of archers who turned on her when they didn't need her anymore, plus Tomoe corrected her mistake by killing them all. Y'all just incels hahaha
@MegaJf16 She was a bandit to survive, so was Yuna in the past by the way. She did escape the mongols when they grew tired of her, but they were pursuing her, that's the whole point of the final Ishikawa quest; she wants Jin and Ishikawa to help her with the archers she trained who were hunting her down and closing in on her; she needed Jin and the Sensei to deal with them while she made her escape. Why would she join Jin at the cliff? Just seconds earlier he tried to shoot her point blank with an arrow. She never went back to the mongols either, she joined them after being captured to avoid torture and execution, but after losing her usefulness to them her life was at stake yet again, forcing her to flee once more. I really don't understand why so many people don't understand her story.
the actor they used for Tomoe is fucking gorgeous
Really was looking forward to wasting tomoe I mean if we're letting mass murders live I would of preferred my man Ryuzo
When you listen to her voice when you meet “ Matsu” that truly bring a oh shit response and kept wondering how long before she revealed her identity if Jin had already figured it out
I thought when she jumped off the cliff was the last part of ishikawas tale
Funny enough when I checked the cliff after she fell I accidentally jumped down it too and landed in the ocean, but Tomoe was nowhere to be found.
"I have no more lessons to give in this life, except one. Promise me, you won't repeat my mistakes". What mistakes is he referring to here and how could this influence the choice at the end (already finished the game, but always wondered how that line could factor into Jin's decision at the end).
In one of the mission ishikawa said he dedicated his life for the bow he didn't had the time to make a family that's why he saw Tomoe as his heir. He said that to jin so jin can someday put the mantle as Ghost one day and start living his life.