I haul rail containers for a decade and seen many rail yards for 2states and never came across this type of container that open up at bottom , I’m impress ..
People need to realize that they are most likely in a low wage country, with limited access to specialized loading equipment. So actually probably not as bad of an idea as most of us think.
The low-wage response to this requirement is to throw more bodies at the problem. A continuous line of men carrying sacks, for example. What we have here looks more like a non-engineer's engineering solution; especially given how that container's bottom failed to seal properly after discharge.
@@stevesharpe174A for effort sir, and I mean that; but youre at least ten years too late with a post that long. Anybody that can read that all the way to the end probably doesn't need it explained to them; and everybody that needs that explained to them can't process a five word tl;Dr; much less a well thought out multi paragraph tome like that.
The fact that they literally took a standard shipping container and cut the top off while modifying the bottom just so they can load a ship one truck at a time, goes to show these dudes get paid buy the hour not buy the load
@@ianwallace16 yes open tops are somewhat common. But I’m not sure I’d trust the pad eyes they welded on to lift these. And the doors on the bottom were bent on that one we saw. Doesn’t give me great confidence.
Interesting process but I suspect it is an accident waiting to happen. In ports without modern loading equipment this is inventive thinking, but could have dangerous consequences. Thank you for sharing your video.
This is a ISO standard shipping container, there are many hundreds of shipping container types that are different from the normal box containers. This is just one of those obscure types.
@@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen yes open top are a thing however containers with a open top and a floor are not standard ISO containers here in this video its clear that this is a container that has been modified so the floor opens it seems to be a common solution in that area because of the crane attachment
What we don't know: The crew is relaxing at the beech and one by one they have to help loading so they do it as ineffitient as possible to have more time at the beech
@@bentleymtafu23 it’s actually not to bad when compared to other chip facilities. Usually they lift trucks w/ trailers to 45 degrees and dip the trailer. Then the conveyor takes it to the ship. Or to a pile in the yard then to the ship later. It’s not a fast operation either. If you don’t have room for the regular operation then this isn’t that bad efficiency wise. I just don’t trust the modification made to the containers to be safe for lifting. But that’s just me.
I love how you give a fancy acronym for a super ghetto device. Its a regular container with the doors stick welded and the roof torched off. 20 minute job.
If those are dry chips then that's probably around 23-26 tons so say 25 ton average, took 6 minutes. 25*10 that's 250 ton/hour. The ship looks not too big, I'll ballpark it loads 20,000 tons so that's 80 hours of work.
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They're getting the job done!!!... you guys would still be fixing to fix it...... Looks like the best way to load and unload without additional equipment....
Also seeing how difficult it is to place back on the truck bed, with all those places slack can appear. I see a comment on difference in economic power across the world. But when you have a crane like that, you have a bucket to go with it. That's like buying a brand new car without doors and windows
I still remember my folks and sisters trip to China in 1988. They had video of guys using shovel's to load coal on a ship. Fricken shovel's you use in your backyard!
Haha... now they are loading in backyard better than before by excavator i/o ficken shovels. FYI pls: 1 gang they are doing this way but the rest gangs they’re using loading conveyors
How many container fit this vessel, how long takes a full load and does work and transport pay off? What about if it takes comparable effort to transport the woodchips from source to target location than to burn the chips where they are?
~ 2000 conts for full load of vessel with 35-40k MT, but the Terrminal had done by 2 modes: loading conveyor & OTOF cont. for high productivity. Korea/ Japan is target location.
That's a very efficient way. 6+ minutes with 8+ people to unload one trailer. A dump to conveyor system wouldn't need a crane or all the people to rig the trailer.
@@BlenderRookie Yeah, but that’s your mistake. If they handle bulk only once a year, it’s cheaper to use once a year this unefficient loading method and pay more laytime instead of installing a expensive conveyor belt. I don’t deny that you are right in general.
Looks slow, but according to my maths (which could be WRONG ) ......... that container holds 76 odd cubic metres and the process took 6.2 minutes all of which equals 12.25 tons per minute, .........which ain't exactly hanging about. 12.25 tons / min = 735 tonnes / hour, ......................... at say 80% efficiency = 588ton / hour.
Just correct your calculation: 40’HC ~ 76m3 takes 6,2 minutes => 12.25 m3/ minutes ==> Crane productivity = 735,5 m3/ hr At current location, MC (moisture content) 50%, average Woodchips Ratio 3.12 m3 lv/t ==> Crane Productivity = 235,7 Green tons (GT)/hrs, it means 5640 GT/ day Handling Productivity is so slow by this kind of container. Loading conveyor system with at least 400 GT/ hr (~ 9600 GT/day) is a better solution, not only for loading productivity but also for trimming cargo on vessel holds
@@truonglinh78 Thanks for the correction, .........I agree a conveyor is a better solution, ...........but sometimes you have to go with what you have.
Nope. Have only the suggestion, that it might be "Safety" in English and in the local language - i.e. Thai, or Hindi. Same lettering as on the lower part of the container doors. But... Dunno. 😉
Seen many open top containers.. but never a open bottom. Man it must be nuisance to keep clean and functional. Knowing how many production companies load their goods into containers, it would be very nice to pull off the top and sides, and have the bottom standing.. For both easy load and unload. But having seen the whole video.... that looks very unstable and tricky to handle for the crane operator
You are correct. Many safety, productivity issues have to be reviewed since Woodchips loading by this specific OTOF container. But now, it’s still be done since some limitation at the ports & consolidated.
No! Those are someone else’s chips, they have go back to the forest and cut there own and grind them into chips with millstones. The port fees for that ship must be astronomical. Labour rate ? That must be the equalizer?
Seems like it is 🇻🇳 and it will take forever to load that ship, lol. Well, it may well be a good thing for crew members, they can go and enjoy the town more than usual.
I haul rail containers for a decade and seen many rail yards for 2states and never came across this type of container that open up at bottom , I’m impress ..
I to jest szybki rozładunek good job;)
I have never seen that before 😂
People need to realize that they are most likely in a low wage country, with limited access to specialized loading equipment. So actually probably not as bad of an idea as most of us think.
The low-wage response to this requirement is to throw more bodies at the problem. A continuous line of men carrying sacks, for example. What we have here looks more like a non-engineer's engineering solution; especially given how that container's bottom failed to seal properly after discharge.
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@@stevesharpe174A for effort sir, and I mean that; but youre at least ten years too late with a post that long. Anybody that can read that all the way to the end probably doesn't need it explained to them; and everybody that needs that explained to them can't process a five word tl;Dr; much less a well thought out multi paragraph tome like that.
The fact that they literally took a standard shipping container and cut the top off while modifying the bottom just so they can load a ship one truck at a time, goes to show these dudes get paid buy the hour not buy the load
It’s actually a pretty good idea. A lot easier that unloading a standard wood trip trailer than using a conveyor to get it on the ship.
many times importing stuff is much more expensive then a couple of workers hours
Open top containers are quite common.Mostly used for shipping high machinery that can’t fit in through the doors.
@@stefanp7603 dty
@@ianwallace16 yes open tops are somewhat common. But I’m not sure I’d trust the pad eyes they welded on to lift these. And the doors on the bottom were bent on that one we saw. Doesn’t give me great confidence.
Interesting process but I suspect it is an accident waiting to happen. In ports without modern loading equipment this is inventive thinking, but could have dangerous consequences. Thank you for sharing your video.
This is a ISO standard shipping container, there are many hundreds of shipping container types that are different from the normal box containers. This is just one of those obscure types.
@@fluggaenkoecchicebolsen yes open top are a thing however containers with a open top and a floor are not standard ISO containers here in this video its clear that this is a container that has been modified so the floor opens it seems to be a common solution in that area because of the crane attachment
What we don't know: The crew is relaxing at the beech and one by one they have to help loading so they do it as ineffitient as possible to have more time at the beech
Rumor has it they are still loading that ship. 😴
Hahahahaha...😁😅
I just saw this now. This is so inefficient might as well use a shovel. Hell NO LOL
👌😂🤣
@@bentleymtafu23 Hauling in NZ .
ruclips.net/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/видео.html .Classic Chip trucking. 39 tons
ruclips.net/video/KGJTw07yRFg/видео.html .2020 chip haulage. 57 tons.
ruclips.net/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/видео.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
@@bentleymtafu23 it’s actually not to bad when compared to other chip facilities.
Usually they lift trucks w/ trailers to 45 degrees and dip the trailer. Then the conveyor takes it to the ship. Or to a pile in the yard then to the ship later. It’s not a fast operation either.
If you don’t have room for the regular operation then this isn’t that bad efficiency wise. I just don’t trust the modification made to the containers to be safe for lifting. But that’s just me.
I love how you give a fancy acronym for a super ghetto device. Its a regular container with the doors stick welded and the roof torched off. 20 minute job.
I mean plus the addition of the pulley system and the corresponding box-section reinforced floor..
there are 2 types of people in this world. 1 says how can we make this more efficient. 2 says how can i take long so i always have a job
There are three types of people in the world - those who can count and those who can’t
@@ArtStoneUS 😆😂
Third type: one who makes it efficient, but shows to his boss that he is still doing it manually just to sleep around.
There is in fact a theory (or law) to the explanation of the 2nd one attitude. It is called "Parkinson's Law".
@@ArtStoneUS There are 10 types of people in the world - those that understand binary and those that dont.
If those are dry chips then that's probably around 23-26 tons so say 25 ton average, took 6 minutes. 25*10 that's 250 ton/hour. The ship looks not too big, I'll ballpark it loads 20,000 tons so that's 80 hours of work.
Thanks, saved me the figuring time, now just for fun...imagine particles one billion to a millimeter packed side by side and filling completely a cube shaped (to simplify things) universe of a trillion light years per side...I appreciated your comment and it made me think of how often I see horrible "arithmetic" errs in news reports. Cheers
Your calculation is correct my friend. Container instead of conveyor is stupid and risky
Load of brand new IKEA furniture!
Next ships the glue
😂😂 my thoughts exactly
@Huxley Jax if your insecure don't be in a relationship!
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
start of making IKEA furniture-- just add some glue?
They're getting the job done!!!... you guys would still be fixing to fix it...... Looks like the best way to load and unload without additional equipment....
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Heavy equipment operators are oftentimes underated
Like a lot of jobs, or trades, you tend to only hear about the bad ones.
Also seeing how difficult it is to place back on the truck bed, with all those places slack can appear.
I see a comment on difference in economic power across the world.
But when you have a crane like that, you have a bucket to go with it.
That's like buying a brand new car without doors and windows
Seems like a conveyer system would be so much faster.
You would have to train these clowns to do that also, different person every day, and yes looks like it takes for ever.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@bohhica1 Hauling in NZ .
ruclips.net/video/g-BnwyBK5Hk/видео.html .Classic Chip trucking. 39 tons
ruclips.net/video/KGJTw07yRFg/видео.html .2020 chip haulage. 57 tons.
ruclips.net/video/qQ6oPqtbRqI/видео.html . NZ-Timber trucks 150 tons
A conveyor system sounds nice but how do you get it off the truck?
Fantastic video
great work by the crane operator
Yes, high risk for crane operators but he can do it without fail. Many vessel calls were handled already.
I still remember my folks and sisters trip to China in 1988. They had video of guys using shovel's to load coal on a ship. Fricken shovel's you use in your backyard!
Haha... now they are loading in backyard better than before by excavator i/o ficken shovels.
FYI pls: 1 gang they are doing this way but the rest gangs they’re using loading conveyors
@@truonglinh78⁴
How many container fit this vessel, how long takes a full load and does work and transport pay off? What about if it takes comparable effort to transport the woodchips from source to target location than to burn the chips where they are?
~ 2000 conts for full load of vessel with 35-40k MT, but the Terrminal had done by 2 modes: loading conveyor & OTOF cont. for high productivity. Korea/ Japan is target location.
@@truonglinh78 Thanks for you response. 🙂 Damned lot of work!
All fine and dandy. Now how will they get it all out?
That has to be the crappies crane operator on the planet
Nossa muito bom 👍👍👍
Good job for the 3rd person to correct the work of the other two.
15 лет работаю и первый раз вижу такой контейнер Open Top-Open Floor
Похоже на самоделку. Выгнуло сильно люки и щепа сыплется мимо.
Есть вещи, которые кажутся невозможными, но мы можем сделать это с помощью безумных идей, которые возможны.
That's a very efficient way. 6+ minutes with 8+ people to unload one trailer. A dump to conveyor system wouldn't need a crane or all the people to rig the trailer.
True but this way they have a general cargo dock and not a dedicated bulk dock. So the dock can be used to import export multiple commodities.
Not every Port has a conveyor belt system. Maybe their main cargo is general cargo?
@@vorpommerinaustralia5418 Dude, obviously no one is talking about using this system for TVs, appliances and other "general cargo".
@@BlenderRookie Yeah, but that’s your mistake. If they handle bulk only once a year, it’s cheaper to use once a year this unefficient loading method and pay more laytime instead of installing a expensive conveyor belt.
I don’t deny that you are right in general.
That’s an interesting operation.
Please use Dock C, three over from the pile of wood chips.
SUPER LIKE DOU VALOR ACHO MASSA 👍
Looks slow, but according to my maths (which could be WRONG ) ......... that container holds 76 odd cubic metres and the process took 6.2 minutes all of which equals 12.25 tons per minute, .........which ain't exactly hanging about.
12.25 tons / min = 735 tonnes / hour, ......................... at say 80% efficiency = 588ton / hour.
Just correct your calculation:
40’HC ~ 76m3 takes 6,2 minutes => 12.25 m3/ minutes
==> Crane productivity = 735,5 m3/ hr
At current location, MC (moisture content) 50%, average Woodchips Ratio 3.12 m3 lv/t ==> Crane Productivity = 235,7 Green tons (GT)/hrs, it means 5640 GT/ day
Handling Productivity is so slow by this kind of container.
Loading conveyor system with at least 400 GT/ hr (~ 9600 GT/day) is a better solution, not only for loading productivity but also for trimming cargo on vessel holds
@@truonglinh78 Thanks for the correction, .........I agree a conveyor is a better solution, ...........but sometimes you have to go with what you have.
3:40 - I can't quite make out that writing on the hold cover - is it 'Safety Fourth' ? :)
Safety first ;)
@@henkstersmacro-world No, that's not what they wrote. That might be what they meant, but you need to actually watch the video..
@@xz3693 Idd you're right, I was mentioning what the original text would have been but it seems that someone messed up the text..
Nope. Have only the suggestion, that it might be "Safety" in English and in the local language - i.e. Thai, or Hindi. Same lettering as on the lower part of the container doors. But... Dunno. 😉
What a brilliant grabber
How long to load the ship?
How many tons can the truck hold?
How far is truck coming from?
What country is this?
And to what country is this going to?
country is Vietnam.
Freakin ludicrous!
Wtf. Is this year 1600?
Супер 💯🙋👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👏👍👏👍👏👍👏
6min for ONE container! I cant belive they fill the ship rly this live!
This s à good idea for a grain transport ship vs ports
Buen trabajo 👌
Seen many open top containers.. but never a open bottom.
Man it must be nuisance to keep clean and functional.
Knowing how many production companies load their goods into containers, it would be very nice to pull off the top and sides, and have the bottom standing..
For both easy load and unload.
But having seen the whole video.... that looks very unstable and tricky to handle for the crane operator
You are correct. Many safety, productivity issues have to be reviewed since Woodchips loading by this specific OTOF container. But now, it’s still be done since some limitation at the ports & consolidated.
Hope those men are getting paid by the hour!
So it takes what.... a month or so to load a ship?
Mantapppp 🔥🔥
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muito bom
quem sabe faz ao vivo bem interessante
This is faster than just using a grapple bucket.
Just a bit faster 😂
Thats about as inefficient as it gets
i think a bunch of guys with shovels might be a small bit worse, but yea its not the most efficient way of doing it
Awesome port vietnam
Good job my friend
Many lessons learned from this operation! But it should be applied for some special scenarios.
@@truonglinh78 ☕🥂
Now we know why OSB is over $25 a sheet
I was waiting for the container to be dumped in the sea 🌊😀😀
Well, I guess it beats a line of men carrying sacks.
Average 20=>22 tons/ container depending on the moisture content of woodchips 🪵
Fantastic
Grande estivadoooor
This video is over 1 minute so you know its not gonna be fail
👍
Did'nt see anyone go for the twist locks before or after!!, that'll take some time to load....
Que pena habiendo tanta tecnología y aun sigan trabajando de esta manera
Saludos de JOACIN MONTOYA, inventor de escritura global... Dónde se pueden hablar muchos idiomas y dialectos del presente y del futuro del mundo...
Nunca imaginei que os grãos , saiam por baixo . Pensei que iam abrir as portas para os grãos caírem.
Chips are for plywood. Also animal bedding. Dimensional lumber like I beams for construction of big homes. Probably going to China or Japan.
There must be a more efficient way to do that.
You would think a huge vacuum or conveyor would be faster.
I lol’d so hard at 6:07
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If the system works, then why not do it...
Thanks for sharing your video..👍
Very good ji apretar
Some form of conveyor or blower system would have to be more efficient.
No wonder stuff costs so much
next trip after this one... scrap yard
This one is *don’t kill the job* type of operation, lol.
Entweder komplett entladen, oder gleich bleiben lassen. Was sollen die Reste?
Wooow
It might be just me but that does not seem like a very efficient way to load the ship. Must have a lot of time on their hands.
Good idea with the container, not so well executed unloading by the crane.
6 weeks loading time ''
Yeah looks slow as shit
Yeah seriously they can't be loading that ship one container at a time
Are you Woodchip Expert?
@@vivacehome1 woodchip expert ?? to see that this is not a way to load a ship ? just comon sence but you are a woodchip expert so be happy.
Mechtilda, you worded that perfectly for me .. thank you.
where are they taking ? what they using them for? thanks
Khanh Hoa Province, Vietnam! Loading Woodchips onto vessel!
Тяжёлый труд стропольщика. Знакомо.
That's proof how expensive the IKEA furnitures, it's not about the price of woods, but just because how it handle in port😂😂😂
Caused by:
1. Trcucking cost from highland to seaport
2. Loading cost at port by none-specific loading equipments with low productivity.
I love heavy equaitment 👏
Equipment
@@richardhanawalt4901 oh... Yea..... I sory 😄
He's clearly not English speaking. He's doing his best.
@@blackfacePM President Trump speaks russian
sorry I just learned English ,, please help me sir
dạ chào sếp linh. A vẫn khẻo ạ anh
Интересный опен-топ без донышка.....
Мне такие не попадались ещё.
Why not a belly dump trailer onto a conveyor or a blower system Wihy a container With the bottom door why not a specific trailer for it ?
Im sure u take 1 week in port, that kind of loading, where is that port?
I think 2 weeks and depends the shift s goes on 24 hours.
Nice. . . .tric
Big heap of chips on a dock in the distance, I wonder if the lorry drives back over there and is loaded by 100 men with tea spoons
No! Those are someone else’s chips, they have go back to the forest and cut there own and grind them into chips with millstones. The port fees for that ship
must be astronomical. Labour rate ? That must be the equalizer?
CAM RANH DEPORT ?
When is the SALSA added?
talcahuano chile is my main loading pirt and they use cranes.much more efficient loading.
Hello Nguyen.
What country is that ?
Cam Ranh, Vietnam
Cảng này giống Quy Nhơn vậy
Che mano 😉👍
One supramax can be loaded by like this 100 moves. More efficient than grabs may be
Q demora um sistema de hilo e bem mais ágil
Why not just seal the container from top, and load it just like a normal container into the container ship ?
Cause they don't want to waste all hauling all the extra tonnage of metal, instead of Wood Chips?!
THEY ARE LOADED FROM THE TOP
Seems like it is 🇻🇳 and it will take forever to load that ship, lol.
Well, it may well be a good thing for crew members, they can go and enjoy the town more than usual.
Since it is what?
@@sovietcomrade7733 Slow loading cargo keep ships in ports and it gives more time for the crew of the ships spend more time in town.
@@altanaltay7040 yeah but what did you mean with the flag actually
@@sovietcomrade7733 It means; that port we see in the video is a Vietnamese port.
@@sovietcomrade7733 It is 👉🏻 🇻🇳 Vietnamese flag
Are the wood chips for powering units in the ship? They're hardly transporting it overseas right?
Nah they're moving them, not burning them for power. Boats are diesel powered
lecvietnam.com/en/operations/tin-tuc/dam-go-la-gi-ung-dung-cua-dam-go-233.html
Wonder how they unload at the other end.
The ship has got the same type of doors fitted as the container.
Fresh new biomass fuel for the green world!
Cảng ở Việt Nam đây mà .
Some say they're still loading atm 😂