NEW Airbus A350 Is A PROBLEM For Boeing. Here’s WHY
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2022
- The A350 is the bombshell that is going to aid Airbus's ongoing onslaught of whatever remains of Boeing’s integrity in the aviation industry. They’ve finally released their secret weapon which comes with tons of pleasant surprises that will win over a majority of Boeing’s loyal customers. So, how the new Airbus A350 is going to end Boeing’s dominance?
The A350 was born at a time when the Airbus was placed under great pressure by its major competitor, Boeing. This story goes back to 2004 when the Airbus A330 family was the rave. It was the model that was bringing in the money for Airbus. Just then, Boeing turned the tide and introduced the Boeing 787 and the 777 models, majorly wide-body aircraft that could carry between 250-300 passengers. Somehow, this factor drew more passengers away from airlines that relied on the smaller Airbus A330 to airlines that had resorted to using the wider-bodied Boeing 787 for long-haul travel.
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Airbus hit the mark with the A350, truly a work of art. That's to say the 787 is no slouch either.
no truly is a slouch
@@arnoldcobarrubias6593 best selling wide body of 21st century can't be no slouch
they act like the 787 only sold 200 plane, smoking some crack if you think the 787 is in any danger because of the 350, United just place an order for 100 787, Airbus has always been on the catchup lets copy Boeing, 747 flew for 50+ years before airbus came to life then try to out do the 747 with the under achieving 380, HAHAH, then the 787 comes out and they went with the 350, looks to me like airbus isn't leading the way but copying the way......
I need to fly on the A350! I’ve been on a Dreamliner before via American and it was a fantastic experience
Swings and Roundabouts.
The A350 is a masterpiece. I know the divide in the coments so, let me say, I'm an American and grew up as a bit of a boeing fanboy, I admit it. But the A350 is perfection. The 787 is right there with it, though, in a slightly different niche, so as an enthusiast, I love that those two jets can coexist and thrive side by side. I am sad to see the 777 bow out, as IMO it was the greatest widebody twin until the A350.
Agreed. The 787 QC really is an issues, I hope the FDA catches all issues and fixes the already flying planes...
I’m not American and I grew up as a Boeing fanboy. I believe we, the older guys were all Boeing fanboys at least until the 80s or 90s.
Boeing was a reference!
I miss the company that it was.
@@brainthesizeofplanet The issues were supply-chain issues, not a problem with the planes.
Trent engines prevent it from being a masterpiece
Let’s see how the 777X turns out. It looks rather promising.
The reality is that neither side is going to destroy the other because producing aircraft is hard and takes many resources, the backlogs for both companies are insane and how long it takes until you get an aircraft is important for Airlines, so if one has a lot of orders, the other becomes more appealing.
Boeing is destroying whats left of consumer confidence even in the US. Congress gave them two more years for the Max to comply with half assed safety standards. Only the fact that the US kept Airbus out for so many years and subsidizes them with troubled military contracts keeps them alive. Frontier Spirit are all Airbus, Delta has many, Alaska-Skywest fly's Embraer E170s on commuter and shorter routes. As Southwest Airlines put pressure on Boeing to keep proper Simulator time off the must do list resulting in the two crashes. I will not fly on planes knowingly built to fail. Yes all planes crash but the Max was gross negligence. They knew it was terribly engineered. They are complicit in MURDER.
@@eleventy-seven
Time for Lockheed Martin to make its long-awaited comeback into the commercial aircraft industry!
Now that the Ukrainian war is getting full financial support from the USA, Lockheed Martin is being quite profitable producing weapons of war.
Investing of tooling up for a new airliner would be a multi-billion dollar gamble their shareholders may not be keen on
@@eleventy-seven There was no intent to kill passengers, so the most severe charge possible is manslaughter.
i agree. the term "THE BOEING KILLER" already used when AIRBUS 380 was first introduced. instead, BOEING's Dreamliner boosted orders while A380 orders was cancelled. the only thing bad in BOEING was when they didn't inform the modification made in their 737 MAX, i felt bad because of the disaster.
The A350 is the best looking aircraft imo 😍 As Europeans, we are proud of Airbus 🇪🇺
Personally, I love Airbus. They make such innovative work and I highly respect them. As a pilot, I would say that Airbus has a lot of automation but I love the design of the cockpit regardless. It’s easier to remember and work with, at least to me. The A350 is a really beautiful aircraft, I believe it’s the most beautiful aircraft in today’s day.
More importantly it doesn't randomly crash.
Airbus Aircrafts are almost good in quality.
Yes it is 😊 best looking ! Soo cool
I really like the front windshield, too.
The A350 is the most beautiful passenger aircraft in the skies and a perfect airplane for longhaul flights.
The 787 and the A350 are amazing and beautiful machines.. no one is burying anybody! They are two titans of the industry and they will be there for many decades to come.
A350 just copy from the 767,no doubt,the 787 is best
787 is a POS. Mechanic, been to school on both, 787 is garbage.
@@justing42 It's flying record would say otherwise.
This month travelled British Airways Business Class on A350 from LONDON Heathrow to Phoneix Skyharbour Airport & Back. This Plane is HUGE & was great travelling.
Yup. A350 is best looking bird since 757. Used to prefer Boeing but no more. Airbus have a superior product range now, IMHO, of course
Comments on "NEW 777-9X AKA SUPREME AIRBUS KILLER IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR AIRBUS. NOPE THE A350 Airbus is a cheap copy of Boeing aircraft however THE SUPREME AIRBUS A350 KILLER The Airbus-A350 has cheaply made Rolls Royce engines that do have a tendency to exlplode. Plus the new Boeing 777-9X, 787 and 747-8 are faster than the A350 Slolo-Poco-A350 and the new Boeing 777-9X with it's powerful General Electric Engines AKA GE-9X Engine has 155,000 Pounds of Thrust is already known as THE SUPREME AIRBUS KILLER. Those cheaply made Rolls Royce engines has has caused the Airbus A350 to be known as " A350-El SLOLO-POKO OF EUROPE." The only thing the A350 can do kill is to kill the rats in their cargo bays that go eeek, eeek and eeek! Airbus Fanboys need a support group because no matter what they do or think they cannot compare the A350 Airbus to THE-BOEING-SUPREME-AIRBUS-KILLER known as the Boeing 777-9X and with two GE-9X engines it has 310,000 of thrust while the A350 only has 194,000 pounds of thrust plus Boeing 777-9X is sleeker, faster and gets better milage than the cheaply made A350 with it's Rolls Royce exploding engines. Gee Whiz the 777-9X with it's two General Electric GE-9X engines has more thrust totaling 310,000 pounds of thrust. While the puny Airbus A350 only has 194,000 pounds of thrust and I reiterate my little traitor the Boeing 777-9X is alot faster, sleeker and gets better milage and it is "THE SUPREME AIRBUS KILLER."
The Aubus-A350 is a bird that looks just like a VULTURE-A350!!!
Do yourselves a favor…don’t call airplanes “birds”. We in the biz don’t do that, and think people that do are clowns.
Flew on an A350/1000 late last year..
Awesome flight, great plane..
Unfortunately the normal aircraft on that particular route is the A330/300. Also a great plane, but no A350..
This is not directly about 787/A350 but when I learnt how much development and even current construction of the 787 is done in Europe, I was amazed. Also the fact the A350 and 787 have their composite fuselage made partly in the same place in Italy. I knew the tail of A350 was made here in Finland but to know that Boeing's flagship is so much European blew my mind (even the tinted windows are European lol).
Very good comment both airbus and Boeing uses same technologies/companies but the shape and the interior are done by each company themselves
It is funny how ignorant some of the general public is
Interesting, the US is big and resourceful country, shouldn't we construct the whole airplane, the 787 and the 777x here, and employ our own people? And enrich our own country? If we had honest leadership and ownership we would protect our own industries.
Flown the A350 dozens of times but flew SQ23 for the first time in September. A350-900 ULR is a very special plane. Incredible machine
I still love the A340 and am sad to see it go. It was one of the most comfortable and most quiet flights I ever took. Barely noticeable turbulence and no whining engine noise. I was actually able to sleep because the plane was so smooth. I can't sleep on planes because my head is a bit sensitive to motion and I'm a light sleeper. The A340 was an interesting moment in my life: it was the first time I slept on a plane. The carrier was Iberia and the route was Madrid-Chicago.
@@largol33t1 same about the a340. have flown on it only once and i was all the way in the back. it was quiet roomy and very comfortable, even though it was a lufthansa flight (i honeslty regard them as one of the worst airlines to have to fly with).
Singapore 🇸🇬 Airlines is the largest Operator of the Airbus A350XWB-900 including the Airbus A350XWB-900ULR
Yeahaaa, its also the kick back and relax of corruption with air bus
End Boeing's dominance? I thought Airbus had already ended it.
It’ll shift every 10 or so years. In 2008 everyone thought Airbus was finished due to the A380 flop. Then in 2019 with the Max grounding and 777 delays everyone’s now thinking Boeing is finished. By 2030 both Airbus and Boeing will be back on an equal playing field. Then the 797NMA will come out in 2035 and Airbus won’t have an A320/21Neo successor ready by then so everyone will think that’s the end of Airbus. So continues the cycle.
@@NarasimhaDiyasena Airbus is the future. China doesn't want anymore Boeings. They are offered cheap here in the US. as they have been subsidized by failed military contracts like the Pegasus, Redhawk Trainer, Starliner all screwed up late. Boeing has dropped the 797. I wish it was a different story but when you get rid of engineers thats what happens. It started with Mc Donald Douglas merger. Read your history. What do you base your comment on as the situation will never go back to a engineered to move forward company? Nationalism is great if it's a great product. 777x delayed 5 years so far, 787 delayed and only recently being delivered after a 1 year pause to correct shoddy workmanship, 737max still using outdated cockpit design, Pegasus refueler not mission ready, Redhawk trainer over 2 years late unstable wings, v22 Osprey does not properly auto rotate as planned, and finally starliner still not mission ready to go to the ISS with occupants. What are you not getting?
@@NarasimhaDiyasena probably true, but the 738max and 787 QC issues are a much more problematic burden than the a380...
@@brainthesizeofplanet The only issues with the 787 were supply-chain issues. The aircraft has been flying safetly for well over a decade, and the Max issues have been fixed.
Guess what, companies don’t stand still when they get bested.
The A350 gets my vote as most beautiful aircraft. I was fortunate enough to fly one one from Newark to Stockholm. It was a great flight with the view of the New York skyline from a window seat, as well as having the next two seats free.
What makes it the most beautiful for you
Two wings, two engines and a tail. A bunch of windows down each side of the aircraft. Basically the same as any other plane made in the past thirty years or so
@@kamakaziozzie3038 Well, a corvette and Pontiac Aztec have windows, doors and wheels, but the corvette is regarded as the nicer looking car. it’s just a matter of preference
How comfortable were the economy seats ?
Boeing's worst enemy is called Boeing. An unfortunate predicament, because they used to be a hell of an aircraft manufacturer. I still say Boeing's 737-300, 747-400 and 777 are the greatest commercial aircraft ever built. (w/ the now defunct Lockheed Tristar as the 'honourable mention'). Boeing might have done itself in w/ the MAX fiasco.
and that’s why you don’t let McDonnell Douglas merge with your aviation company unless you want to slowly kill it
As they say, MD bought Boeing with Boeing's own money!
airbus fanboi crying evrywhere with same comment😂😂
@@prasenjittripura4691 Just to make it clear. I'm far from an 'airbus fanboy' quite the opposite. I am a massive Boeing fan. Like I said the 737-300, the 747-400 and 777 are IMO the greatest commercial aircraft ever built. But the MAX is one massive blunder, a product of 'greed trumps engineering and air safety' mentality. I sincerely hope they acknowledge their mistake and do an about face of their strategy, back to quality engineering over 'fuel efficiency, "green aircraft" and cost cutting materials' or whatever. Good day sir.
@@prasenjittripura4691 We aren’t Airbus fanboys, we’re just disappointed by what Boeing has become. It used to be good until it wasn’t, but if you like the Boeing/MD Frankenstein company of today that doesn’t want the FAA to do its job (to keep people safe in airplanes) then go ahead.
Your presentation is highly interesting to watch. Thank you very much and Happy New Year.
hi untold what transe music is pleaying at 7:14 / 9:30
There are three types of people in this world. People that love Boeing, people that love Airbus and people that know the difference!! ✈️
Proud to be flying this magnificent beast ❤️✈️
Recently flew from North America to Asia, partly on a triple seven and partly on a 350 (same airline). The 350 was more comfortable.
The 350 is much more comfortable compared to the 777, the 777-300 ER is significantly noisier inside the cabin
Was that due to the cabin products or the airplane ?
@@danharold3087 it's the aircraft. Even if you fly 777s and 350s in the same class operated by very good airlines (like Singapore) the 350 is far more comfortable.
In economy the 777s are almost all converted to 3-4-3 and the seat width is quite cramped, the interior is far louder (engine noise) than the 350 inside
@@simonm1447 I do not doubt you. Others have said the opposite regarding the engine noise. Two people disagreeing in the same discussion. He said she said. They could have both been telling the truth. Maybe one of the guys was half deaf in one ear. Personal observations are always on the anecdotal side.
As I understand it seating is an airline choice. Manufactures make the body wider and the airlines cram in more seats. Recall someone saying the new wider A350 body will see this happen.
@@danharold3087 in 2018 I traveled between Europe and OZ, with Singapore. One part of the flight was in a 777-300 ER, the other part was in a 350. Both planes were operated by Singapore, and both flights had been premium economy.
In my case the 777 was far louder inside, and the cabin air was strange, I felt almost sick after both 777 flights. In the 350 everything was OK.
My next flight on this route is in January, I chose 380 flights with Emirates this time, the 380 is also one of the most comfortable aircraft.
Personally I don't have anything against Boeing, I just want to have a good flight, and for me Airbus widebodies are much more comfortable.
In the single aisle class it don't really matter, since a 737 NG don't feel different to a A 320
The fact that airbuses dont randomly fall out of the sky is a deal breaker to me. Airbus all the way.
QF72? LH1829?
@@canardeur8390 I doubt they are going to answer that question 🫢
Lol time for you to do research because Sully wants to have a word with you aswell as other pilots that have flown airbus planes
Nope, Boeing > Airbus
Sorry not sorry
787 is really not a bad airplane.... But its really alone in Boeing's line up. Airbus got a pretty much complete lineup from 110 seat A220 to a 350 seat A350-900 with the largest gap Between the A321XLR to the A330-800Neo of only 50 seats. Also A220 and A350 is totaly up to date models while A320 and A330 neo series is mostly up to date.
Looking on boeings series its pretty much anorectic. The 737 max is smaler than the A321XLR, but not as economical as the A220. The 787 is a greate aircraft, but also significantly larger than the 737. Also the max10 coming 2500km short of the XLR, being a but to short for both trans continental and intercontinental flights.
While the 777 is stacket right on top of the 787 just like the A350 is to the A330neo... The scale of economy is in the 777x case of set by the lower fuel economy of the aging frame.
While A319neo technically have this problem to the A220-300... and the A320neo will have it to the A220-500... the A320 still have several key benefit like type rating that 777 really don´t have to the 787.
The 737 have also totally grewn out of the regional market where it have its origin. The A320 was really never a regional aircraft, while it have been used for that in some places. Now Airbus also have the far superior A220 as a regional to mid distance aircraft.
With that said... A330neo is selling ok.. but not great. Airbus need to think of a replacement.
A320 series is selling great, but to be fair, that have a lot to do with boeings problem, and it won´t last for ever. To my opinion the A220 is the superior aircraft, and the only reason why A320 is really just doing more orders currently is due to lacking A220-500 and there being a much larger stock of A320 family. Look at the A320 CEO family. 80, 1500, 4800, 1800 orders. Barley any A318... So airbus killed if off.. What about the NEO family... 85, 4000, 4600... Now the A319 doing barley any order. A220-300 have pretty much wiped the A319 market clean.
A220-500 will eventually clean up the A320neo market. Airbus biggest threat is airbus.
Don´t get me wrong. 787 is a brilliant aircraft. Airbus can afford A220 digging in to the A320 series. Actually i would say it benefit them (and to my understanding the A220 is cheaper to build). Boeing got one modern airliner, 2 conversion that for what it looks like today, both are sub par.
Airbus got 2 modern airliners. And 2 conversions that are decent. Yes sure, A330neo is not selling great. But its the one in the airbus family that stands up to a superior boeing.
Bruh we're talking about A350 why you have to bring up 737 A320 even A220 ffs
The B787 might be a good aircraft for airlines but certainly not for travellers. As it is not comfortable at all. I flew it from Tokyo to Doha and didn’t like it in terms of comfort while I really appreciated the A340-600, A380 and B777-200LR/300ER.
@@PureMatteo And you don´t even know how to read.
"Not to mention factually false (for ex, a B787 rating doesn't exist, it's a 777/787 rating just like a 330/340 rating exists)."
I wrote.. " don´t have to the 787." That is.. they don´t have to do a separate type rating for the 787.
"The 320 doesn't sell because of the max, but because of subsidies making airbus able to propose it at a very cheap price"
That is Boeing propaganda. There been several court cases disproving the rumor.
" The A220-500 is not happening, airbus decided it clearly when air france"
That is old and irrelevant information. There is newer information out. There will be a 500, we don´t know when and how large it will be.
"Also you can't really say the A220 is a 320/737 killer"
I also didn´t. I wrote that Airbus killed of the 318Neo because there as no market for it anymore.
" it is very efficient but you'd need 3 of them to transport 2 full loads of a 737/320"
So you are saying you know nothing about the airline industry... And ... well its also incorrect. With the same logic A319 wouldn´t exist because A321 is "just better"
A220 is more full efficient. And having the right size is generally better than having a large aircraft.
I stop here i won´t answer the rest of your nonsens
@@mathieumenegoz1920 Of cause they declared 500 dead when the A320neo was just brand new.
I´m well aware of the Airbus sales corruption affair. But that was prior to the really large increase in Sales. of cause, that don´t prove that they still are doing dirty dealings, but it also don´t prove they do. Boeing have done similar things in the past. Really most global companies have.
Its a bit more complicated than airbus was just bribing people. While the court decision was in 2019, the actual case was from 2012 about bribery between 2004 and 2012. It makes it a bit more complicated because the law was change in 2010 to make it more clear that this was illegal, prior it was sort of a gray zone thing.
I´m not commenting on rumors.
Airbus don´t have production subsidies, they have development subsides, or rather development deals. There have been some airbus subcontractors in France at the airbus plant that gotten subsidies for production. But that was really to rob other partners from the deal. Have to remember that airbus is conglomeration, its not one company.
While 6 seat row are a bit more economical than 5 row seat. A220 makes up for this, and then some with simply a more modern design. Even the A320Neo is mostly a rather old design, with modern features. And well the 737 is really old.
On medium range the A220 is simply more economical. Also worth saying that both A320 and more so 737 have grew out of there original role. Very typically 737 that was a short range alternative to 707 while 727 was sort of a medium range. Now the largest 737 is pretty much the size of the largest 707.. with really only the larger cockpit of 707 making it longer. range is also pretty much on par.
The fact is that 737 as well as the A320 have grew out of there role as short/medium haul shuttles.
@@mathieumenegoz1920
My point was not that A320 was a better aircraft, but that it had a better market position. A320 neo spans from 160-244 pax max while 737 max spans only from 172 to 230, making the A320neo both smaller as well as larger. On top of that, A320neo have the range advantage in the top end, where it really matters the most.
Both Airbus and Boeing have had... or possibly still have, corruption issues. But for Boeing case, i really think its there management is more of a problem than Airbus is. Airbus is beating boing, not becasue airbus is doing well, but becasue boeing is doing poorly. Its worth saying in this case both how Boeing used government corruption to stop the A220 originally (when it was the C series) and how they almost broke Embraer with a very poor deal withdraw.
As an engineer you are always worry that some component will fail and someone will die. And that is really regardless of what you are doing. A system i worked with (while doing it prior to i started working with it) failed during hurricane Katrina in the US, the failure of the system probobly killed a number of people that would have survived other-vice. While of cause, in a aircraft accident, its much easier to pinpoint exactly how many people where killed.
Of cause, they want to keep the duopoly. If i was a conspiracy theorist.. that i really am not. I would have suggested that Boeing botch the situation for bombardier so Airbus could buy them up. Bombardier would have pretty much broken the duopoly.
Nobody wants COMAC, well in the west. That is not only a Boeing or airbus thing.
Boeing have left the lower and market wide open..And well airbus also until the bought the A220. Still this is a valuable market and Embraer have built over 1600 E-jet that have a capacity overlapping with A220. Superjet SSJ100 is also in production and is selling fairly well for a Russian aircraft. MC-21 is in production.. while.. Russian.. and well. they are not selling any aircraft to the west soon. Still its right on top of the neo and max.... more so than the C919 that is a tad smal.
Its really sort of a semi duopoly
From the payload range diagram of both aircraft, it indicates that both the B787-10 and A350-900 has very similar fuel burn per trip. Hence with it's larger capacity, the B787-10 offered higher RASM and lower CASM vs the A350-900. However with the introduction of the A350NPS, the A350-900 is able to seat just as many pax in the economy as the larger B787-10. This negated any passenger capacity advantage the B787-10 has against the A350-900 (B787-10 now only has the slight cargo advantage left). With the NPS, the A350-900 now not only offers higher RASM and lower CASM but also better takeoff performance and longer range vs the B787-10, should the airline choose to pack the economy class with 10 abreast seating.
Likewise the NPS also has the same effects on the A350-1000. Previous analytic models suggest both B777-9 and A350-1000 will have the same per trip cost, hence the larger B777-9 will have higher RASM and lower CASM vs the A350-1000. With the NPS, the A350-1000 now offers higher RASM and lower CASM and also longer range vs the B777-9.
Unfortunately for Boeing, both the B787 and B777X have already carved out their sidewalls to gain the CASM it offers today thus this improvement is no longer available for them. For Airbus it is merely a move to level the playing field.
Well that just on paper, if they want the a350 10 abreast to be a threat to the 787-9/10ER they will need to make it standard , which it won't.
Just like the self shading windows airbus is offering as an option ,yet most airlines don't show any interest in it .
Those kind of windows are standard on the 787.
The 9 abreast on the 787 is now standard , so airbus will need to convince airlines to make this even narrower seat standard on the a350 , which if they fail , newer variants of the 787 will continue to hurt sales of the a350.
The 787 will still prevail because of the ability to serve both a330 and 777 routes with its multiple variants , hitting two birds with one stone , something the a350 can't do ..
The ability to have one aircraft family that , could cover lower capacity long range routes with the 787-9/ 9LR and higher capacity routes with the 787-10/10ER will be most enticing.
The fact that most airlines are now replacing their a330's with the 787-9 gives Boeing a better chance to offer the 787-10/ER due to fleet simplicity over the much cramped 10 abreast a350-900.
That's why UNited are considering canceling their a350 order , due to Boeing development of the 787-10HGW and the fact that , they get massive cost savings from keeping the fleet simple
Not developing the a350-800 , and instead sticking with the less competitive a330neo will turn out to backfire to airbus , because that's where Boeing will hurt airbus sales even for the a350( even with its 10 abreast)
Great video - I'm flying London/Addis/Cape Town in a couple of days - now I know I will enjoy it!
You better buy a big pillow, the seat are not that comfortable, I fly regularly form Houston Tx to Vietnam and also Philippines, and do Like the 787
Got to fly on a new A350 Singapore AIrlines...Won me over. Boeing are you paying attention?
what you experienced was singapore, it's the best airline in the world. It has nothing to do with the cabin, which is customizable by the airline. Customer experience is not factored much by the aircraft type.
Rubbish.
If it's Boeing, I ain't going.
Good job 😂😂👍👍💐💐
there's a 50% chance you won't be going then.
Do you choose your aircraft when you purchase a flight ticket?
I'm not dogmatic about it, but I aim always for A over B. It's why I never fly BA long haul even though I'm a Gold (Emerald) member unless I know I'm on one of their few 380s or 350s. The second BA starts to use the 737 on short haul is the time I'll be using other airlines, even if it means route via other airports. Thank heavens for TAP and Finnair.
@@nobs997 if I can take an A350, then yes I’d definitely choose it. Otherwise, no.
it will be interesting so see if they make the A350-2K that would seriously threaten the 777-X the 1000 is already the best airliner currently in service.
When boeing makes the next 787 it will be like today where the 787 is better
@@ploral2 The B787 is the best aircraft only for airlines because of its profitability but it’s the worst long haul aircraft you can experience as a passenger especially in the eco class. It’s just not comfortable at all. Legroom and arm room are awful.
@@bobalto that’s because every 787 operator with exception of JAL aren’t following the intended layout of 2-4-2 in economy and are instead doing the 3-3-3. Only JAL maintains the intended layout of 2-4-2. I flew a 787 on Etihad economy before and while I liked the aircraft, the Etihad seating arrangement and service was trash
I actually think a smaller A350 would work better. Yes, it's stepping on the toes of the A330, but the A330 is the black sheep of the family. If they made a smaller A350, and a bigger A320 (I mean like a A322 XLR), they could remove the A330 from the lineup, reducing costs by simplifying production.
@@mattevans4377 something like say the A330neo ?? and they already have the A220 -300 for the single aisle
Even tho they are working on the zero e its good that they are updating thier aircrafts
which is costlier,787 or A350?
Great Video bro I'm surprised but quite happy that Airbus is upping the game I like them 😂🔥
Love A350. I've flown on Air France and Vietnam Airlines. Great aircraft and at the end of the flight you feel less fatigue. Boeing 787 compete more with A330
Now to be honest with you…I will always choose airbus a380 and a350 over any Boeing aircraft
A little more enthusiastic on the drawing boards, more quality controls and less activities in the congress - Boeing would be back as a proud competitor.
Airbus has it all over Boeing!!! As an American, I used to say "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going!", but now I say "If it's Boeing, I ain't going!" Airbus definitely nailed it with the A350.
I gues is good we got A and B ...I like them both and we got even brazilian plane all of the world...embraer...
It's amazing to think that decades ago Airbus was barely surviving when it first entered the market... Now they're thriving
they're heavily subsidied, so we sure hope they are. They don't sell the A320 at normal price, in fact they loose money on its line. A complaint case was dismissed. The corruption case wasn't so airbus got to pay a big fine. So yeah, there's politics and public money helping them when there is no legal ground for it.
@@PureMatteo As if boeing is not lmao always running to papa pentagon for handouts
@@CountingStars333 Complete different story. One is for military planes other is for commerical development and for military application R&D. They're two completely different beasts and are not the same. So you are really comparing apples to oranges.
Wow! What a badass looking aircraft!
As a European I`am proud of Airbus und its excellent aircrafts.On the other side I never had a hidden pleasure in the problems of Boeing with their 737 and, in the beginning, 787. Boeing has problems with 777X, of which Lufthansa has ordered at least 8. This is the reason why LH reactivates severel A 380. But long before Airbus was founded, Boeing produced amazing aircrafts, like the 707, and the 727, which was my favorite aircraft in the 70s and 80s. And we shall not forget that Boeing created the marvellous 747, which has our enthusiasm until today. I hope Boeing will be existing and producing aircrafts for a long time.
If that was the case of the A350 being a killer to Boeing, why hasn't it sold more or have more orders that the 787?
B/c the video is propaganda. The 787 and A350 aren't even competitors - The 787 competes and beats the pants off the A330 Neo, whereas the A350 competes against the 777 and upcoming 777x and is currently doing a very good job against the existing 777 models (older design) and against the 777x which hasn't entered service yet
also Boeing planes are a better flying experience for most passengers. speaking from 24 yrs airline experience the airbus fishtail in the air and causes motion sickness sometimes. while a cheaper plane we still mix and match planes in the US.
Because the buyer is not the user. Boeing Aircrafts are better for airlines in terms of profitability but if you ask any traveler he would prefer to fly an Airbus because it is much more comfortable than Boeing.
@@bobalto Thats a personal thing, most people don't care what they are flying on as long as the price is right. But take the 737 max and the A320 series NEO, both very quiet aircraft but the Boeing sky interior is leaps and bounds nicer than the A320 which hasn't been updated since it was born.
@@Dreamweaver787 Comfort is not personal…Comfort is very important especially when in comes to long haul flights. I flew the B787 for first time to experience it (the flight duration was 12 hours). Now that I know what it is like, I’m ready to pay more for an Airbus A380 or even an A340/A330. A B777 is also ok. But I’m not ready to spend more than 3 hours in a B787 in eco class.
It has its share of problems with some of the quirky flight control units. It also has a lot of paint finish issues. Funny that you are figuring this out only within the past 3 months.
You will not go wrong with a Rolls-Royce
It had a shaky start but all through COVID R R solved it's problem and now it flying high
Last time I flew a boeing from madrid to barcelona, I literally had to comfort a passenger, he kept repeating: " boeing are too crash-happy for my taste"
5:33 nice to see air mauritius... Soo proud thanks
Outstanding aircraft. A few problems with the interior, though. Galleys are not well-fitted for cabin attendants. Very fragile pieces of standard equipment in the cabin.
This is all really cool but wtf is that "Connect my seat to my phone" silliness? We already have something for that, they're called buttons.
A350 is beautiful but I love the A220 more.
If you saw it overnight like I do as a mechanic, your mind would change in a hurry. It is junk.
It seems that the 787 max is still having a drag on Boeing. The big carriers do seem to be splitting orders between both Airbus and Boeing.
There are mire orders for 787 than A350
@@SuperPlatano2671 787 is ten years older than the a350. Logic.
I flow with a AirFrance 787 recently and it had dimmable windows 🤫😉
Dimmable Windows suck, they are slow as hell, don't work very well and don't block light as much as proper shades.
I like the 787 and A350 that Singapore Airlines or sometimes Scoot use, they’re pretty roomy~
My favorite Airbus plane is a Canadian Airbus A200-100 or A200-300 and if or when the A200-500. Greatest passenger product for general public transportation
nice AB commercial .. UAL ordered which airplanes??? -- Was there an issue with Qatari A350's??
I've heard this said before:
Airbus is the A-plane, Boeing is the B-plane.
when boeing returns to proper quality control they will produce great aircraft again , im sure
i remember these quality managers call for help by resigning back in the day ..
at this time the Airbus is the new choice because these jets are awesome , look fabulous and get the work done ..
Airbus has two great products: A220 and A350. And is in great advance on the hydrogen development.
Forgot the 320Neo Family
The 220 is A HUNK OF GARBAGE!! Mechanic at a major US airline…it is JUNK!!
A350 so beautiful
A350 is a big deal, powerful, beautiful and the most safest of all!
Doesn't Boing still lead in the wide body orders?
nope. Not anymore.
2:10 what do you mean by refitting an earlier model like the A350? the A350 is the latest.
+Untold Aviation @3:50 Where on Earth did you get the idea that Saudia has 75 787s? A simple Google search confirms they have 13 787-9s in service with 5 787-10s on order. They have one with a special "75th Anniversary" logo on one (HZ-ARE)...maybe someone interpreted this as Saudia having 75 airframes?!?
Flew on a BA A350 8th December. Heathrow to Vegas. Wonderful experience. Plenty of space, very comfortable and a great aircraft for passengers. A week later I flew on an AA 777-300. Pheonix to Heathrow. It was cramped, much smaller screen for in flight entertainment and I just didn't feel the confidence I had in the A350. The charging points for my devices didn't work either but I suspect that's on American Airlines rather than the 777.
All in all, the A350 made a 10 hour flight feel relatively relaxing and I exited the aircraft in Vegas starving for nicotine, but otherwise in good spirits. I left the 777 flight wishing I'd been on an A350 again. The A350 got me interested in passenger aircraft, and I would love to try the A380 one day.
It has more to do with airline than airplane
LOL. It's a good story. I like the one about Goldilocks and the 3 bears better.
I've flown diverse Boeings and Airbuses, and it was the Airbuses which had the more comfortable seats and better passenger experience! My most nightmarish flight was in an LTE (Lufttransport Unternehmen España) 757 in 1995 from Larnaca to Düsseldorf where I had a window seat - with no window! Somehow, the seat in the middle of the plane was so badly placed, the window was at the back of the back rest! On top of that, I am inly a six footer and there was hardly any leg room. My knees kept banging the bacl of the seat in front of me. It was worse for the passenger beside me who was 6'4". He had to sit DIAGONALLY with legs bent to the side to fit into the seat! The pilot made a very steep landing approach which gave me a whanging ear-ache that lasted for hours after the landing! I was supposed to take a Cyprus Airways Airbus A-300, but the flight was cancelled due to engine problems (better cancel to be on the safe side than have a door or engine casing or wheel fall off...), which is why LTE. Thankfully enough, the on-biard catering served me a customarily delicious Cyprus Airways meal of excellent mousaka, Greek salad and desert, while my seat mate had to put up with two sandwiches of German grey bread (yes, Graubrot is awful and dry!) and wurst... The cyprus Airways flights with Airbus wide and narrow-body planes were worlds better! Even the flights on Fokker-Fairchild turboptops from Düssekdorf to London City airport with Belgian airlines, mot to mention the excellent Greek and Belgian service and friendly in-flight staff! It was the same with Lufthansa and Air Berlin flights, with German service being several levels below Cyprus Airways and VLM. The Boeings were uncomfortable while the Airbus flights - flights on ANY other aircraft were pleasant! The US government should nationalize Boeing! Corporate greed has gambled with too many lives in this corporation and destroyed a remarkable, iconic legacy company!
This will not sink Boeing, the military hardware side of the company is so integral to the American military industrial complex that Congress will never allow it to fail.
Less profit but stable is better than making a lot of profit in a short time end then no more, that's what Boeing needs to learn
Plural of aircraft is........ aircraft.
A350 is a real beauty both inside and out and produces a better product than Boeing. Trust is also an issue with Boeing.
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No it doesn’t.. just ask Qatar airways how happy they’re about their A350’s.
It slots between the 787 and the 777. Not really in either market. The 787 is absolutely a superior plane, and Airbus knows it.
The A350 can handle the older 777s, but it pales in comparison to the 777X, so in a year or two it will be left behind.
@@is500fsport5 Qatar is the only one. Everytime. Will they like Boeing?
Given the troubles with MAX series it’s very hard to trust or take Boeing seriously. Airbus is going to take Boeing to the cleaners in the long term.
Flew on this Airbus it was awesome
Wish Boeing had done the Sonic Cruiser, I’d pay extra to get there faster.
The 350 is a great looking machine and performs very well for Airbus and the operators of the jet. That being said I don’t think Boeing really fears the 350 as the widebody market has always been their better market share both passenger and freighter wise. I think Boeings true fear is the aging 756 fleets and the growing 321 family taking their market share in the many 757’s needing replacement. While the 321ULR/XLR series aren’t near perfect replacements to the workhorse and overpowered machine that is the 75 Boeing hasn’t shown any effort to either re-engine or provide a modern replacement for that fleet.
Airbus develops a bigger wing at the moment for A 321s. With this wing (the 757 has 50 % bigger wings than the 737 or the A 320/321) a 321 Neo will come much closer to the capacity of the 757 than with the current smaller wing
@@simonm1447 performance still remains a big issue for the bus. It pales in comparison to the 75. Even with a more efficient wing it won’t be able to replace the 75’s route structure.
@@SidestickPilot it don't has to have the same big 180 m2 wings, since new engines are more efficient.
It seems even the Neos and LRs are not that bad, since they cross the Atlantic with the old wing.
The last 757 was delivered in 2003 or 2004, so it's time for an aircraft which can replace it at least partially and Boeing has nothing to offer here
@@simonm1447 efficiency and performance are two different things. The bud can’t take off on short runways, hot and high airports, or with heavy loads and is easily weight restricted (just like the max). The 321 is not a 75 replacement. Wasn’t built to be one. You can make the 321 a very efficient airplane that can fit the capacity and range. But it will never be able to take off fully loaded on a 5,500’ runway and cross the pond.
@@SidestickPilot you can get some of the specs - with bigger wings alone you can at least improve hot and high take offs, I assume a variant with a higher MTOW (for the 321 100 t is the limit), will get more powerful engines too. If you can come close to the 757 depends on the choice of engines.
The last years I traveled to Ladakh (Himalaya, India) a couple of times, they have one of the highest airports with around 3500 m runway altitude. They always land there with 737s and A 320s, alongside with military aircraft like the C-17 or IL-76. I never saw a 757 there, it seems the performance of the normal narrowbodies is good enough there.
The problem with too specialized aircraft (the 757 was quite specialized for hot and high) is you sacrifice other things to improve something you only need for niche cases. I don't think they will make the 321 version with the bigger wings exactly like the 757, they will rather improve the performance to cross the Atlantic with high payload than making it possible to take off with MTOW from high airports with short runways
Is Carbon really safe?
Hhhhhhh what else is safe a350 never crashed
Neither Airbus nor Boeing can alone supply Aviation demand for airliners; nor is it in the best interests of the airlines to be dependent on one airliner supplier.
One of the best aircraft’s in the world
Has the Airbus solved the fuselage paint problems with A350 and Qatar Airways planes, it seemed to be a major problem few years ago? Maybe that problem has been fixed?
New Gem !! 💎
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I would be more worried about China and their airline manufacturing concerns.
Airbuses aircrafts ie A350 & A380 are most comfortable aircrafts I ever flew. No doubt Boeing is also excel in its interior and innovative products. Somehow, felt it do not have the cosiest of Airbuses. With the latest accidents & scare happening to Boeing aircraft’s. I will check on the aircrafts for all my flights to only be onboard an Airbus.
About time emirates added other eide body aircraft aside from the 777
The Boeing 787 is a terrific airplane, and is selling really well. You cannot just say that it's not close in popularity to the A350. There are three different models of the 787 Dreamliner, and they're all amazing. You can't kill a company with the production of one airplane that seems to have more "appeal" then one can say. The A350 is a great development, but definitely not one to subdue a company like Boeing, who works well in their globalization efforts. It's just simply too big a company to bring down. IMO, we need Boeing, and it's amazing new developments.
My feeling is that Airbus really hit the-sweet-spot with the A350 slotting in just under B777 while not fully competing with B787. Like B787 using composites coupled with the next-gen of RR Trent XWB`s they have an incredibly economical aircraft that can only improve over time. Airlines will look to the prospect of future fuel savings & will be well aware that a modest stretch of this aircraft along with the introduction of the geared turbo-fan ( RR UltraFan ) could possibly be an unbeatable combination for the long-haul market around 2028-30 onwards. With B777x delays still ongoing it makes A350 models current & future even more attractive.
But the 777X is not Boeing's future , the 787 is . I wonder why people think the ultrafan will only be available for the a350. The 787 is currently the best selling wide body jet and it will continue to do so till the 2040's, RR will definitely not want to miss on that
A modest stretch of the 787 too is not rulled out , and could allow Boeing to replace the 777 in the 300-400 segment while the 777-9/10 focus on the 400-450 segmet.
Lots of people seem to underestimate the 787 but it is the biggest threat to the 350 program than the 777X
@@mmm0404 I didn`t ( because it isn`t ) suggest B777x was Boeings future, & why would I imagine UltraFan only for A350 when RR have said all along it`s a range of engines for single-isle up?! I think you must be confused as to who you are replying to.
@@edwardwilcox6606 very good. The 777x was just ment to take away sales from the 350-1000 , which would have had 500+ orders if it didn't exist and it worked.
THe 777x is a niche anyways, and the 777-9 doesn't have an airbus alternative so , AB has little to benefit from the delays unless the come up a true competitor
@@edwardwilcox6606 anyways , I just having fun. I'm sure you comment so you could get likes and replies. No pressure
@@mmm0404 Nope.....I like a quiet life so my expectations are zero. Thanks for your comments btw!!
I'm flying to London on an A350-1000 in 3 months!
is that can carry more passengers and cargo than Boeing 777-9?
It's more economical and a350 is 2x time cheaper than b777x. Not too large and not too heavy. Instead of b777x they can purchase 2 a350 and gain more profit.
@@faizierazali3494 More economical according to only Airbus.
@@faizierazali3494 a350 is $300M and b777x is $440M so it's not x2 cheaper.
@@henson2k i taught its 200+
@@faizierazali3494 it can be with discounts provided to some customers/airlines but that's applicable to any airplane including b777x
I thought this video was about the a350 not Boeing!
Airbus 787 competitor is the A330 neo, not the A350.
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The 787-10 and a350-900 do overlap .
The 787-10 has 15+ more seats than the a350-900 and can carry 4 more LD3 cargo containers.
The A350 would to tight if they as
Add extra seats
I was on the A350 and it was a pretty decent flight. Boeing however, lacked a little.
From the perspective of a economy class passenger the experience in a 787 dreamliner is superior to a A350, in terms of interior mood lighting, noise, vibration, harshness and technology.
Not really, AB has major supply chain issues and
Boeing makes a ton of money from Defense.
The wide body is more seats, not more room.
Simple reason:
Airbus does nut use HAL9000 as autopilot
Not only that, a new boeing 737 max is also a problem for boeing.
Well done airbus
If I had a nickel for every time someone announced the "Boeing killer," I'd be a rich man. If you check Coby Explanes video on the A350 killer from Boeing, you'll see how silly this video might be
I just had an 11h flight on a A350, nothing special, as uncomfortable as any other economy seat, although large screens but the entertainment system is noticeably slow. It takes a couple of minutes to load Tetris and Android system did reboot itself for no reason a couple of times. These superslow Android based systems are a goddamn plague on any aircraft. Just give me a 100$ tablet, I'd be much happier.
They still use double 3,5mm audio jack, a thing of the past you might think but Airbus A350 is here to prove you wrong.
I honestly prefer the B787, and I am European.
New Airbus is a problem for Boeing… yeah, because it actually flies!
A350 is my favorite plane
Boieng cares about the money and the airlines profits
airbus cares for the passenger comfort and airline profuts FIRST before caring any more about their own profits
Airbus makes outstanding airplanes and it seems to be its own worst enemy these days. I am getting tired of the supply chain issues. Is there not a more clear example of needing to make our own supply chain?
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Boeing is going to have to step up , and improve their game and quality control .
Flew on both 350 and 787 ...350 Trump it