The Cult of Hockey's "Tough loss, great season" podcast
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2024
- Let's do this! The Cult of Hockey podcast. By the Faithful and for the Faithful, tonight with Bruce McCurdy and David Staples. Tonight they dig into Edmonton' 2-1 loss to the Panthers of Florida in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final with their 2 Good Things, 2 Bad Things, 2 Numbers and 1 Conundrum podcast
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It crazy I waited 18 years to see the same outcome.
That's pretty much what I said too man. Feels a hell of a lot like that...😑
At least this time the likelihood of a Pronger caliber player demanding a trade in a matter of days from now isn't there? 🤷
I dunno...just looking for solace somewhere and I suppose the fact that this window is open for at least another year or two is something to hang our hats on
But no guarantees they get back there. That's why this one will hurt for sure...
I’ve waited 30 years for my Cats to win it. Still in disbelief
imagine being a Leaf fan .... wOOF!
yup...same.
Thank you Bruce, David, Kurt , the Oilers and all the faithful fir an amazing year! It sucks now, but I think in hindsight we will appreciate just how amazing of a run this was.
Thx Oilers and David and Bruuuuuuce for a great season and great reporting!!
This loss is devastating.
Glad Janmark came into his own in Edmonton . Always loved him here in Vegas. He scored hatty in game 7 against Minnesota in 2021 for us and dude just clearly elevates in the playoffs
Ya he was excellent.
how much ice time did the henrique brown janmark line get it seemed like last 30 minutes they didn't play much
And they were the most effective line.
Tough one boys. Mad Respect 🙏 from Chicago.
Thanks for doing this again this year guys. It's great to hear intelligent conversation about hockey, about the Oilers. I appreciate your effort
After seeing Edmonton crowds, the Florida crowd sounded quite subdued during ceremonies. You could hear the interviews on the ice for ___’s sake. If the Oilers had lost this on home ice, the crowd would still be maddeningly loud. Florida doesn’t know and love hockey like Edmonton does.
Of course not. It's so hot and humid there! The fans don't grow up there playing ice hockey. The fans are transplants from hockey cities NY/NJ CHICAGO. They move to Florida to retire.
Give it up for the cult of hockey pod cast! 👏👏👏👏 win or loose they go on and do the show game after game, thank you and keep up the good work! We will get her next year!
My little heart is broken it was broken in 2006 and it's broken again. In 1983 the Oilers got swept by the Islanders and came back the next year to win the cup the Panthers lost in the final last year but won the cup this year. Vegas made it to the finals in 2018 and lost then won the cup in 2023. 2015 Avalanche lost in finals and came back and won the cup in 2020. The point is alot of teams have made it to the finals and lost then came back very soon sometimes the net year and won the cup so fingers crossed this happens for the Oilers.
Difference is, Vegas, Tampa , both had there core signed long term at reasonable price.
Oilers are about to sign Drai and Bouch to a combined 22+m . Add on McDavid 12 =34m and for fun add in Nurse at 9m for another 6 years.
An aging Hyman and Nuge who are both early 30s. Yeah window is closing lmao
@@CS97660I think we have a window of 4-5 seasons.
Super tough to see as an Oilers fan. Thanks for the reporting this season, my favorite podcast!
Well played season, oilers are so close. Just a few tweaks, I’m sure they learned from this what they need. Whoever the next GM is. It’ll be a challenge but they can do it. Thanks for the podcasts by the cult of hockey. Always nice to watch 👍🏻. Look forward to them after the draft and free agency season. Oilers will win next season the way Florida has and previous cup winners have. They are earning it. One thing to add, I believe refs missed a tripping call moments before the 2-1 goal. Had they called it, probably Florida doesn’t have that 2-1 goal. Broadcasters pointed out the missed trip. Idk who it was but I remember seeing an oiler falling down due to a Florida players stick. TBH I’m not sure there is much integrity with the NHL.
Long post follows. Read / Don't Read up to you. Statistics for Round 4 Cup Finals Game 7 Edmonton at Florida June 24th, 2024. These are "Base" statistics and are simply a foundation for reference not the detailed stats the Cult of Hockey compiles. On a personal note I'd like to thank the COH group. Every game you're there for us with expert level analysis, advanced analytics, opinions, and some humour from time to time. Your work is exceptional and I, for one, appreciate it.
Score: Oilers 1, Panthers 2. Panthers win Series 4-3 winning the Stanley Cup for first time in Franchise History.
Edmonton Oilers
Janmark 1 Goal
Ceci 1 Primary Assist
Skinner 19 Saves on 21 Shots = .905 Save %age, 58 minutes played
Florida Panthers
Verhaeghe 1 Goal, 1 Primary Assist
Reinhart 1 Goal (GWG)
Rodrigues 1 Primary Assist
Lundell 1 Secondary Assist
Kulikov 1 Secondary Assist
Bobrovski 23 Saves on 24 Shots = .958
3 Stars: 3-Verhaeghe (1G, 1A), 2-Reinhart (1G), 1-Bobrovsky (.958 Save %age)
Edmonton Florida
Shots on Goal 24 21
Hits 19 30
Faceoffs Won 31 28
PP 0/1 0/2
Giveaways 9 13 (12 per NST)
Takeaways 7 (6 per NST) 12
Blocked Shots 13 (12 per NST) 17 (15 per NST)
Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways
Bouchard 27:43 5 0 2 1 3 2 0
Ekholm 26:07 4 0 0 0 3 1 0
Ceci 18:35 1 0 0 2 1 0 0
Kulak 15:40 0 -2 0 1 0 0 0
Nurse 15:39 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
Broberg 14:37 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
McDavid 25:42 2 0 0 2 2 2 1
Hyman 24:52 2 0 0 1 0 0 0
Draisaitl 22:22 0 -1 0 0 0 2 3
Nuge 21:00 1 -1 0 2 1 0 0
Foegele 13:50 4 -2 2 0 1 0 0
Janmark 12:40 1 1 0 1 0 0 1
Brown 12:08 1 1 0 0 1 0 0
Henrique 11:55 2 1 0 2 0 0 0
Holloway 10:31 0 0 0 3 0 1 0
McLeod 9:02 0 -2 0 0 0 1 1
Perry 7:52 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Ryan 6:54 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
Oilers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
Draisaitl 16 7 69.6
Henrique 6 6 50.0
Ryan 3 5 37.5
Nuge 3 1 75.0
McDavid 3 7 30.0
McLeod 0 1 0.00
Holloway 0 1 0.00
Panthers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
Barkov 10 2 83.3
Rodrigues 5 4 55.6
Lundell 5 5 50.0
Bennett 3 5 37.5
Stenlund 2 6 25.0
Reinhart 2 7 22.2
Okposo 1 0 100.0
Luostarinen 0 2 0.00
Florida won the cup for the first time in franchise history after loosing in the finals last year. Connor McDavid won the Conn Smythe as the MVP of the playoffs (he didn't come out for the trophy, he wanted the cup).
So I couldn't watch or listen to the game. I have treatments on Monday's that make that pretty much impossible. I tried catching what I could but just couldn't watch or listen to a lot.
The stats tell and interesting back and forth in some ways but the key stats for me are Giveaways, Takeaways, and Blocked Shots. Oilers had less giveaways (by 4) (good). They also had 5 less takeaways (not good) and 4 less blocks (13 for the Oilers, 17 for the Panthers, also not good). The Panthers out hit Edmonton 30 to 19 (so by 11). Edmonton was slightly better in the faceoff circle and took 1 extra penalty though both PK's were at 100% and no one scored on the PP. By all accounts this was a good and very close game that the Panthers just did a little more to win.
Mentioned it to a friend's son once but it's possible to do your best and do everything right yet still lose because others can be better. In this game Leon didn't even get a Shot on Goal and Connor had 2. The big 4 were offensively invisible. That is a good for the Panthers and a Bad for the Oilers.
I hope the Oilers get there, I hope they hoist the cup again (and I hope it's next year). Hope is understanding but a lot of things have to happen for there to be realistic hope. To all of those that have followed hockey and who's youtube sites I've ever posted on I want to thank-you for your support of hockey and, most of all, the Oilers.
To all the fans of every team it is possible your team will get there, you do have a chance and you can also feel the wildest of high's and the lowest of low's and everything in-between. Never give up. Never surrender to the apathy that can happen. Make sure your team knows that you support them.
I am so grateful to my community, my home city of Edmonton. The fans here are wonderful (and very very loud) in their support. I'm grateful to the Oilers fans across the planet, old and new. Those that may have just seen hockey for the first time or those that have been watching or playing for decades. Thank-you for allowing me to contribute in my way and for those that have supported my efforts. Take care all.
You guys always bring the laughs and insight when the fans need it. I feel for McDavid and the whole team, but if they failed to bring their best at the pinch point, then the Panthers, who did bring their best, take the win. It’s okay.
I sure hope Draisaitl keeps his heart in this team. Next year they can build on all the success and hard lessons. They would be even more dangerous and consistent next year.
It’s a game and a gorgeous one. Thank you, Oilers
Thanks for your perspectives and keeping us grounded through all the ups and downs.
Oilers let the pressure get to them imo. They played Antsy, bad hands. Couldn't make 3 pass's on the transition for long long stretches'. D men passing up 15 foot pass's to an open skating forward, just to lob it in the general direction of a forward who is covered by 2 opposition players. Played frenzied till the point of being gass'ed. "If the Oilers play smart and Hard they will win the Cup" I said. Well they played with a lot of effort, but not a lot of smarts imo. That soft 2nd goal..ouch! Maybe Oilers will just play the right way consistently now, instead of having to be on the brink of disaster to get their act together. Still, a very memorable season!
memorable season indeed but then again, the core always giveback to their habits, cutesy and cycle but don't create anything and hope for an outside shot, and the D as you've said. Terrible passing plays. coach hasn't played his 3rd line more IMO the more effective line than any player in the top 6.
@@SejiBM lol, yep, that's pretty well said.
@@Ace96x10 Agree with you both The anxiety i had yesterday came true based on both yours and Ace's points 😆
@@deregerm)Hi , ya what a ride! Lol, "next year".
We will be back Ace!!!
ahhh man so close
edmonyon will win it all within 2 years (from wpg)
go oil go, congrats on a great season!!
Thanks for the shows guys job well done.. 💕❤️👍 Go Oilers..
Damn, I honestly thought the Oilers would do it but the Panthers said not in our house and they were the better team in this game. Thanks for all all your insights guys, enjoyed it!
Brutal end to a team on the very cusp of true greatness.
Love this team, the roster is very good. Breaking records from the bottom of the standings to the final game.
The first goal was the deciding factor for the winner this whole series.
i continue to enjoy your post game commentaries. Keep up the good work. The hockey Gourdes smiled on Florida ... AND Edmonton. Great Run. Super exciting season. A truly great team with skill and D and depth ... and okay goaltending. Can't have it all. I'd take another great season and playoff run in 24/25. We're so lucky to get to see high level hockey every other night. Have a great summer fellas. Cheers
We will be back
No shame Oilers, the Panthers played a solid game. But…I thought Oilers should have shot more from the points. They looked a little too calm and perfectionist at times as time wound down, starting with Ekholm’s pass straight to a Panther in the Florida slot, to Bouch chilling behind his net with less than 30 seconds left. I would have liked to see some more desperation in those final minutes. What I think the Oil needs is a more systematic way to get good chances on net. They gotta be more gritty, not just pretty.
Everyone loves the pretty offence, like perfect sharp angle Drai shots, Nuge’s wristers under the blocker, or 97’s threading through defenders, but they need more gritty offence, like a young Perry, a Kenny Linseman, a Rick Tocchet, or a McLeod taking Hyman lessons to heart, and the net. I’d like more of what Jon Goyens on Daily Faceoff described about the Rangers O, consisting of layers of players rotating netfront to tip the puck.
Holland did a great job. The team improved every year under him. Thanks to Knoblauch his final grade is higher than a 'B'. GoooOooiillerrrrrzzz!
I was floored that the third line didn’t get more ice time in the third. 🤬
Great pod cast really enjoyed it all season!
Bad start to a horror movie is a great line
Thanks for the podcasts 👍
If game 7 was played in Edmonton, Oilers wouldve won!.....why it's so important to win the Presidents Trophy. They must have a better start next season and keep it going. It was a great year! Feel sad for the players, and all the fans. Thank you OIL for the great playoff ride....until next year!
You both are the best, i never miss a podcast. Thank you for all your hard work.
Myles Maloney, St. Albert
As soon as the Panthers won I had to shut it off and catch the Cult in A.M. In hindsight I think I bolted from that game as soon as it was over not because we lost but because we didn't really show up. We allowed the Panthers to dictate the type of game it was going to be and we never challenged that. We also clearly had lady luck abandon us tonight or did McLeod knock her overboard! My good thing was Skinner, and I feel bad for him that the winner was a weird one. It's too bad, but for the second straight year I don't think the better team won...the better team just couldn't prevent self inflicted loses. But despite that it was another amazing run. Thank you Oilers, Oiler fans, and all those who cover them including the Cult.
Reinhart should haven't had that much time coming down the ice
Kulak was #3 best D in this playoff, unfortunately made a bad read in G7. Still had half a game to get 1 goal.
Gentlemen ... I am currently traveling and have been in Japan since mid May. It has not been possible for me to watch the games so I have been left with the highlight packages. But I have watched each and every one of your reviews of the games. I can't thank you (and your colleagues) enough for your thoughtful, funny, and honest appraisal of each game.
Well Done
P.S. I am a long term Oilers fan (had season's tickets in the 1980's) ... this was a fun ride ... I thought they were going to do it.
I now live in Thailand and now working in Brazil. (Am from Edmonton) I stream all the games and actually use a VPN set to Japan to accomplish this. Can't splash the link here but a 2 minute search will set you up. Then you can watch all games from anywhere. 👍Sure was hoping for a better outcome last night. Been a loyal fan since 1979.... The good the bad and the decades of darkness. 😆
@@deregerm Thanks for the response ... I'll do some research on this ... cheers
This was their first time in the Stanley Cup final, they just didn’t have enough composure and tenacity to finish the job.
We are so lucky to be here on the 24th of June having just watched our team come close but overall have an amazing season, yes it hurts so much, but have faith next year they will be back, in full force, with so much hunger and all having the experience now to deal with ANYTHING any team can throw at them, no longer are they just all offense, be proud because you should be! Have a wonderful summer and see you all in the preseason! Next year is OUR YEAR!
They gave us hope. Came back from 0-3 deficit only to bring a lifeless effort when it mattered the most. 2 freebie goals against and that's all Florida needed.
Not 2, maybe 1. Rhino gets every goalie with that shot
This loss ultra-sucks, but we had an awesome year. I believe this is different than 2006, in that we have much better chance to be back, soon, and multiple times.
Thanks Bruce I’m not the only one sad, I’m just a spectator as a fan only watching all regular season games oilers should have won, McDavid didn’t show up and he’s going to have to live with that forever
Draisaitl too. Nuge was an oxygen thief out there. They showed up scared and played timid. Damn them for that!
Bouchard is only worth that kinda money because of the players around him, Mcdavid etc Draisaitl
Yeah, someone said he turned into Makar these playoffs, yeah right, he's really not all that good at defense but can get the offense going only playing with McD and Drai, the Oilers will probably overpay him. He isn't worth 10 million bucks just like Nurse isn't worth 9 million bucks. Bouchard is better than Nurse but it just goes to show they overpaid Nurse and I hope they don't overpay Bouch.
Thanks oilers. This team showed so much heart. And I for one was entertained for 107 games & a rollercoaster season. We came up a goal short but we true fans were there to the bitter end as opposed to 30 other teams fans & some of our own who continue to bitch & moan about the oilers. Sorry you were not there to see the hay days. It’s made you bitter! And finally thanks to COH! Always love the pod! Hope never dies!
Great job you guys have done all season. I wish the players and coachs would listen to your advice it could help the team.😢
I think the Yips beat the oilers as much as the panthers did
Gotta give Florida credit they played great. And outside of Ekholm Janmark and Henrique the Panthers just wanted it more than the Oilers. After this, I don't think the young guys will ever want to feel this again if they get back to the cup.
Not wanting to lose again, on home ice, and be remembered for the biggest collapse in sports history, trumps wanting to come back and win your first trip to the cup.
I'm not too disappointed, they gave us a heck of a ride and you could tell in the 1st 10 minutes of the game the desperation in Panthers not to lose was higher than the oilers desire to win. Except Janmark Ekholm and Henrique you could see they were desperate not to feel the disappointment of losing the stanley cup again.
Now all the young guys know that feeling too and will want it more, not just the desire to win, but the desperation not to feel this again.
Failures are stepping stones to eventual success if one knows how to use and manage them. They did get progressively closer. A key question now is time.
The Coach and Players all openly supported Mumford in the Media as a pushback against online pressure ,its clear that Mumford has produced a negative or regressive impact in the Oilers Locker Room with his spin doctor routine. Jeff Jackson brought a Poison Pill into the Oilers Room and it destroyed them from the inside out ,turned them into monotone Drones. I blame Mumford.Paul Maurice was aware of Mumfords impacts and used it as a weapon to prepare for Game 7 .
Mistake by the coach, henrique line should have play more , Nuge should have never start the game on first line
Anyone notice how they stopped making the simple passes up to the forwards and just chipped it out everytime onto Floridas sticks. It was driving me crazy
It feels like i attened a funeral. Sad gloomy day
Cecci i think played a great game last night same with
Janmark.
Bottom line is, I have been saying the Oilers needed to come out flying like they had them previous three games in order to win and establish dominance early. They did not do that, they looked timid. They were behind it all night from the first five minutes on, they did have somewhat of a pushback in the second and third. But too late. They did not deserve to win it. I didn’t play with Temp from the beginning? On Skinner and defensive play on. They did not deserve to win.
Great season but we really missed Kane in this series, I think if he was healthy he would of been a difference maker. the boys played hard for sure and had a great season!
Unfortunately they look like game 2 oil I’m a little disappointed with tonight but overall hell of a season good work oilers. Hopefully this is a learning lesson for next few years, I’m sad too Bruce I feel ya/ 😢bad memories of 06 yikes.
I think the Panthers benefitted of having played the final series in this crucial game 7. They were confident. Similarly, if the Oilers would reach to the finals next year, I think they would take the cup. The team was spectacular after the coach change. Even Skinner was great, but I wonder, if he is great enough. Your analysis has been such a treat to listen. Thank you.
a great run by a very good team....good commentary by you 2...I am a Leaf fan....your team template is too much like ours....can't win often with too much skill upfront....you came closer than we ever have....
I agree the big guns were overused and gassed in the 3rd. all season they rolled the lines and were patient when tied or behind. nothing left for the last 90 sec!
Maurice, effervescent?? He always seemed one of the most dreary people I can think of.
I don't have much to say but keep your head high Oil fans, we will learn and be back. Cheers.
Hopefully it doesn't take 18 years for the Oilers to win their 6th Stanley Cup.
Thank you Cult of Hockey, and Thank you OILERS!!!
Good point Dave about not using the hot Janitor-Rico-Brown line more, also to keep the big guns fresher. Did Ceci live up to his Mr. Game 7 label?
Edmonton should keep Ceci
You’ve solved the case Bobrovsky
David and Bruce classy act 👍
The Oilers focussed on Bobrovsky's glove side the whole first period, like they did in the first 2 or 3 games. Not sure why they did that. They lost the series because they lost the first game.
Oilers were the victim of an insanely long season and an insanely long playoff season. I know it’s all about money. But game 7 of the Finals in late June? I know, I know, it’s all about money. But to play the Finals in Florida in late July? It’s closer to a game show-SURVIVAL IN THE EVERGLADES!
Wasn't Skinner...it was a total lackluster performance on the Oilers in general. Very flat...no fire, no extra stride or undying effort to get to the puck. If players are hurt they should NOT be playing!!! I don't care who they are, that's just plain stupid.
The other thing is how can the whole team deflate at the same time? I don't get it... it wasn't just Skinner letting in weak goals...he actually kept them to 2 points...which is very reasonable ... it was lack of offense. The Oilers played all out hockey for 3 games and in the SCF of Finals they barely skate to the puck...literally backing up as a play develops and they just escort them into the front of the net. It almost seems rigged. If I didn't know any better that would be a fair conclusion. The Oilers do have the laying an egg syndrome from time to time...just I thought they had more will and presence of mind than that. Very disappointed. Hope it was worth it so they get their turn to win? All the Parasite "industries" like banks and betting Houses fund the NHL... parasites always destroy the host.
Wide open on the 1st goal
This deep scar will never heal
The Oilers were outhustled in this game and didn't want it as much. What actually happened to McDavid's vaunted offensive abilities the last two games? This game is actually why McDavid's name is not in the conversation when talking about the best player all-time. Points are one thing, leadership is another. And McDavid is not there yet. I don't blame McDavid for the loss of this game or the series because one man is not the team. But what I saw in the series was the unlikely way that the Oilers' third line was the most consistent and probably the best line for the team in the final series. Something about the way the third line gelled, especially in the final series, says the rookie coach made one big rookie mistake in the final game by not playing the series' best line enough in the last game.
Only Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux have had more points in a playoff season. McDavid had this season’s Selke trophy winner Barkov and the rest of his line dedicated to shutting him down. All the opposing top goal scorers were shut down by Barkov’s line in their previous series. Florida had the lowest goals against and the third lowest shots against during the regular season. They are a defensive power house.
@@twiki9995 Good points, but if you think Gretzky didn't have exactly the same treatment, you'd be wrong. I watched Gretzky from his WHA days and he had it every bit as tough as McDavid does. Gretzky was a different player than McDavid in many ways but he was a better leader, at least to what McDavid has shown to this point in his career. And the one key point virtually everyone misses in all this greatest of all time and leadership talk, where is Mark Messier in this conversation? Messier led the Gretzkyless Oilers to a fifth Stanley Cup that Gretzky never did get. That Oilers team was no one trick pony and I personally feel that Mark Messier was the best hockey player of all-time, regardless of Lemieux's scoring accomplishment and leadership, Gretzky's records, Jagr's points, Ovechkin's goal scoring feats, and even Gordie Howe's all round abilities and toughness. Messier made a promise to New York Rangers' fans when he joined that team for the 1993-94 season. Presumptuous in the extreme but Messier delivered. No one else in NHL history has done that the way Messier did. Of course he didn't do that alone; including Mess, seven players of that Rangers 94 Stanley Cup championship team were ex-Edmonton Oilers, almost a third of the team. But Messier was the captain and absolutely undisputed leader of the team. Messier is still very high up on the all-time scoring leaders list, is probably physically stronger and tougher than anyone else on the list, maybe a draw with Jagr, but is undisputably the greatest leader on the list. Even Wayne Gretzky, who wore the C in some of the Oilers' greatest years, will admit that Messier was the team leader in the dressing room, and that's where leadership comes from. McDavid still has many years ahead of him, hopefully, and he still has plenty of opportunity for winning the championship and improving and honing his leadership skills. But he has not arrived there yet. McDavid is already one of the greatest players of all-time on a pure skill level but he just has not got there yet based on his not leading his team to sip champagne from the Cup. There have been dozens of extremely gifted offensive play makers and goal scorers who've never had their names on the Stanley Cup. Mostly, their names aren't easily remembered or commonly well-known. McDavid is not one of these but until his name is on the Stanley Cup, as I believe it will be one day, we may just want to pump the brakes a bit on putting his name on hockey's equivalent to Mt. Rushmore.
@@twiki9995there defense is very average They constantly buzzed McDavid good D maybe But certainly Not a powerhouse Warched a lot of post game pre game not a single commentator called them a powerhouse
I enjoyed the cult as much as the games.
Sad but oh well.
Can’t beat the referees.
Ok David...I get it if you're not gonna put a backdrop of a dejected Oilers behind you but why would you chose the other team lifting the cup as your backdrop? To each his own but the longer I listened to you guys speak, the more and more annoyed I became looking at it 🤦
It is Pro-Oilers no? Jus sayin...
Plus it cuts off the top of your head sometimes lol
I was thinking the same thing.
I would much rather see David Staple’s shelves in the background than the Panthers hoisting the cup over their heads. Why put that on???
Something up with McDavid and Draisail injured I think
They are
Florida was playing for their reputation
My 10 bad things
What’s going to happen with this team , not talking about Drai staying or leaving, I’m talking about Pickard, Ceci, Broberg, Stretcher, Henrique, brown, Perry, McLeod, Ryan, Janmark, are gone and if they could bye bye Kane & Nurse, that’s 12 players changes on a 20 man roster, I don’t see them back again, you can’t just fill your roster in the waiver wire, Detroit won cups because of 3rd & 4th line’s consistently
Janmark has already said that he will take less to stay on this team. Gotta love that guy.
Another game where they fail to show up on time and followed up with some awful play. Panthers were constantly in front of Skinner, and often all alone, yet so many Oilers shots had no one around. Not sure why Leon even played. Bad puck luck didn't help.
Agreed, If Leon is hurt that bad why even Put that the Mcdrai , Hyman line only to be caved in our zone, plus the breakouts on our blue line isn't that clean that only went back to the Panthers.
Leon was ok. He was up against a defensive monster in Forsling who shut him down Lidström style...
@@kallebaah0 Forsling is good, quite good. But defensive monster? I dunno. Especially when talking about drai.
@@Aaron-kq7rd Im talking about the game last night. Leon is a favorite player of mine, but he got absolutely nowhere. Forsling handled him over and over in the Panthers zone. Not by being more physical, but by being smart, somewhat Lidström esque
@@kallebaah0 Ah, well fair enough. Good for him to turn it up for the big game. I suspect Leon has some health issues? Either way though you're right. 👍
0-7 in the finals for Canadian teams since’93.
There's got to be a morning after. It was a great run, exceeded expectations. No matter how hard I wanted to believe they could do it, I couldn't find it for this game. Thought they played pretty good, maybe they were looking for a miracle, too. Just wasn't to be, I guess. It's too bad because the chances of them getting that far next year, pretty remote
How did it exceed expectations? Wasn't it cup or bust this season? According to McDavid as well?
@Aaron-kq7rd just think they've got to go through everything again just to get to the post-season and then to the final. That's a lot to expect from this team, now
Unfortunately with Ryan Mcleod he doesn't lay a hit and when you can't score and barley defend you have to contribute with hitting, he won't learn from this cause he is a perimeter player was and always will be and should be moved on from IMO
Agreed. He's good on the PK but there are a lot of bottom 6 guys that can PK for cheaper and produce just as much.
No, Staples. The better team did NOT win the Cup. That’s what sucks about game 7s - comes down to dumb luck
I wanna talk smack about the Oilers, but I can't . Did Canada proud. Already way better than Canucks fans for not burning down your city.
Draisaitl totally shit the bed and for wanting to win...did pretty much nothing to prove that..
Some of these comments though. People are behaving like they didn't get their stanley sippy cup. I know you love this team and it hurts but you just saw some shock and awe hockey and most of you saw it for free.
How do you come back from a 3-0 series deficit so dominantly to lose game 7, it's honestly baffling, I thought this was in the bag once the Oilers tied the series. I hate Florida teams, they're crowd and market is weak. I hope the state of Florida never wins another cup again. Garbage state!
There fans dont even like them 😂They were selling there tickets to Edm fans ffs
Will only be remembered for another wasted year for mcjesus.
Nobody can define reaching game 7 of the SCF as a wasted year but yes... you are right many will be spewing that.
I don't think another Canadian team will ever win the Stanley Cup. If the Oilers with the two best players in the world, Evan Bouchard, Matias Ekholm and Skinner cannot win it, then tell me another Canadian team with better pedigree that can or that will.
A healthy Draisaitl & Kane………
How is a pass 4ft in the air a 'good pass'?
A stretch pass 4 feet off the ice that lands right by Janmark for a break away is an amazing pass. Saucer passes in the air like this are much more difficult to intercept.
@@twiki9995 That's not how he described it. Maybe you should be his interpreter.
I actually didn't enjoy 2023-24 as much as the preceding four seasons. This past season was weird. They sucked hard at the start of the year, and then McDavid was never himself as he couldn't shoot or handle the puck well (he was much better in 2022-23). Campbell's fail (again) was depressing. Draisaitl was fine but not as good as usual. Kane sort of aged out. Nuge went back to being a nothing-burger at even strength. Only Hyman and Bouchard far exceeded expectations. I hope next year is steadier.
Thank God the Panthers won! Oilers fans are sounding like Leafs fans; Next year, next year... Losers!
Like I said, you won't win with Nurses contract.
People who are coping by saying they will be back are delusional.
Cap goes up by 4m, guess what? Browns bonus eats that.
Foegele, Janmark, brown, Henrique, Desharnais, Pickard are UFA. Holloway and Broberg are RFA. Good luck. Lmao
Brown has already been paid Look it up
unfortunately the bad goal that has plagued Skinner for a couple of years was in evidence last night. Yes , he's played well the last few weeks...made some great saves... but his propensity to allow a really soft goal cost the Oilers. It's game seven , tied 1 - 1. You can't allow that goal by Reinhart. That stop MUST be made. Under the glove on short side..not screened. Not deflected. It's irrefutable , you must save that at NHL level. Not saying Oil would have won , but that was tough. Ultimately in most important game of his career Skinner was the second best goalie. This tendency to allow bad goals on occasion is why many have lingering doubts about Skinner...myself included.
A fair point. However the team did not do much to take over the game early or claw back later either. Seemed like they lost some nerve and showed us that default team that frustrates the hell out of fans year after year in the McDavid era.
And foegle gone too
Warren , Kane , Perry , Ceci all gone
@@ryans413kane not gone
Uhnnnhnhn
Very concerned moving forward. Look at CapFriendly before it goes away. Knobhead is not the guy. Praising him for moves that a winner makes and not criticizing him for terrible decisions. I live in Chicago watched an amazing winning coach make tougher decisions on his way to 3 Cups. It’s over bye bye 97 29. I’m not arguing over RUclips. He doesn’t run the PP PK D lines and nothing on line changes.
Canucks- the NHL does not want this team to win the cup and will fix the final to ensure their demise.
Habs-Too much pressure to win it.
Jets-Can only ever win one playoff game (Game 1)per year.
Ottawa- is a mess right now.
Calgary-is in a rebuild.
Toronto-jealousy, envy and infighting will prevent them from winning. Also, the Leafs are in the toughest division.
Edmonton-always finds a way to beat themselves. Needs to learn how to backcheck and prevent freebie goals against.
Cannot believe how inferior teams keep winning the Stanley Cup. Last year it was Vegas and now Florida.😢
Connor won the Conn Smythe, Yet he lost the cup for his team. 2 of the worst performances by oilers top 2 players. Totally embarrassing. They didn't deserve the cup. Crosby, Gretzky, messier, Stamkos, Kane, Kopitar, Lemieux got it done for their team to win. Mc'invisible
Agree 110%
Man , now we have to go through 82 games and a possible 3 more rounds just to have a chance. Mcdavid shouldnt of won the conn smythe, not being bitter but bobrovsky literally won 3 games , who cares about the losses. Im just being sour, this is tough to take like 06. Speechless
Slow down they were both injured they tried. Before you say many player play through injuries yea but it ain’t always easy is it. Easy to sit here and type this crap when you don’t even play in the NHL at that caliber.
@ryans413 great players get it done when it's on the line, and we got nothing.
@@carverdahlin2728 you can only do so much when your injured you act like every player can play through an injury because a games on the line.
What a disgrace to Canada….
Beardsley is crwying....Baldy is pretending he's not sad .
Oilers got lucky playing the lousy Kings in the first round. While Dallas won the Presidents trophy and got Vegas then Colorado? By the time they played the Oilers they were exhausted. Vancouver was good but not an elite team and fell apart physically. So will you Oiler fans be as lucky next year?