@@Jinn-ww5co really? Last time I checked war affects us ALL & our governments use OUR taxed abroad to fund them by selling weapons, instead of at home taking care of the people in need.
Assad was not any better but if they be as naive as they are things might get bad again, however do they care? No For years Asad, RUSSIA and Iranian Regime were killing people there as they are doing the same things in their country and none of them cared.
You are so wise. Yes a Norway wont suddenly emerge. The best you can do is be positive or better yet actually helpful. As if Europe snapped from kingdom to democracy in a day.
I have no issue with discussions like this with its abundantly obvious biases. However, I think it wrong that the very same people are those who go to these places and we expect to report the ‘facts’ with as little bias as humanly possible. You simply cannot be both a credible ‘reporter’ and a ‘commentator’.
My message to west is: Don’t underestimate Islamists on playing games with you. It is great that the new people in power in Syria have already said the right things and had not done a lot of wrong things. I hope they have changed. But be careful, they might be still what they used to be.
Bro I wish that right wing people were as understanding to the environment in which some people were raised as they are when it comes to defending and justifying Trumps crimes. Or even American politicians crimes. You act like someone who was radicalised because of how he was treated by an invader is worse than for example American politicians who knowingly invaded Iraq with false accusations of owning nuclear weapons. Be fair and consistent.
Got to laugh at these commentators who think Jalani is ok. They are idiots. He is saying all the right things until he gets his seat under the table and secures his position. Then the blood will flow. One ruthless dictator is being replaced by another. How long will it take before the idiots begin to realise this ?
PLEASE leave the KURDS alone MR AL-SHARAA ISRAEL is also tired of conflict and means SYRIA no harm, just seek to protect themselves, but TURKEYE is OUT TO FIGHT ! The SYRIANS DON'T NEED ANOTHER FIGHT ! PLEASE use your influence to avert the TURKS and mr erdogan !
I do not desire to be a conspiracy theorist, so please recognize my lack of discernment surrounding Israel and their recent success, given this unexplainable series of recent events, a true David verses Goliath analogy. Could it be that there is an element of Divine intervention, that has secured these unbelievable victories. There it is, I said it, Does Israel have God in their corner? ONLY ASKING!
No. Israelis fight like lions because their families have no place to go. Settler colonists in Algiers had France, in India - had Britain, etc. Israelis don’t have any place to return to.
What, you think Israel are 'David', with the USA behind them, inseparable from them all the way? You probably believe those Whitehouse press briefings about Biden trying to control, or pull back Netanyahu, too do you? Very naive my friend.
I think this is a significant misunderstanding of Israeli society in general, and it's current attitude towards PM Netanyahu in particular 14:17. Yes, Netanyahu's political fortunes have improved since October 7th, given the successes against Hamas, Iran, and in particular Hezbollah. That said, most polls still consistently show the current coalition government dropping to 43% of the Knesset (Israeli parliament), down from their current 57% majority. That a huge 25% drop. Conversely, most Israelis, including left-wing Israelis, disdain International organizations and NGOs, such as the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnestying, Red Cross, etc. They consider them to be inherently anti-Israeli, and mostly anti-semitic. As a result, the attitudes of the organizations towards Netanyahu actually serve to increase support for him. Also, many Israelis want the war in end not because of pity towards Palestinians - whom they consider responsible for the current situation - but because they prioritize the release of the hostages. If not for that, most Israelis would like to see Hamas wholly destroyed.
What’s your other solution dude? Invading Siria to put people you’re comfortable with in power? They just took over 2 weeks ago, let’s see what happens.
Israel hasn't won. It hasn't achieved its goals in Gaza. It hasn't defeated Hanas, Hezbollah or Iran and without US backing it would have been crushed and its genocide against the Palestinians halted. Also, Israel's leader Netanyahu is wanted war criminal whose movements around the world has been severely restricted. He is in the same boat as Putin as both will be absent at international gatherings. Israel's reputation around the globe is trashed and the international community have finally seen Israel in its true colours. A terrorist nation full of murderers, land grabbing thieves, rapists and child molesters. Don't count your chickens before they have hatched.
How easy to pontificate without acknowledging that it was the brilliant strategy and dedication of ordinary Israelis in the armed forces who have changed the entire middle east. Where is your acknowledgement of this. Easy to call Hezbollah and Iran etc ‘Paper Tigers’ but they’re only that now because of the strategy that has decimated these evil Forces and top people where even all the power of the USA and the rest of the world achieved nothing which allowed these forces to grow. Why not give credit where it’s due whilst you’re all sitting comfortably pontificating
That implies that Muslim societies are authoritarian and illiberal in nature whereas fundamentalist movements in the region must be identified as reactions towards western imperialism. Without Israeli occupation, no enemy to fight for Israelis.
@@jakobdrews8958 Muslim societies *are* authoritarian and illberal in nature, and the ‘fundamentalist’ movements are *not* in reaction to ‘Western imperialism’ but to the failure of *their own* imperialism, especially its failure to destroy the Jewish state.
@@jakobdrews8958😂 ahhhh yes Sunni and Shia are just peaceful friends, and they have a history of living very happily side by side with ethnic and religious minorities 😂
@@Atowns If you go back in history you'll find a lot of examples of liberal Muslim societies - mostly at times with relative self determination, without foreign intervention or under the hegemonial umbrella of a larger empire. It's less about Sunni or Shia but about social cohesion and the disturbance of it 🙂↕️
When Bashar took over for his father many commentators were hailing him as a man of peace and this went on for some time. Well it did not turn out that way and men of peace in the Middle East are rarities. Westerners hope that the new Syrian regime will be peaceful but don't get your hopes up too high.
Excellent insight into the situation, BUT surprised there was hardly any mention of Turkey, the fastest growing regional power, and none whatsoever of the Kurds. 🤔
EXACTLY!! Turkey is probably the most important player and factor in Syria and the Levant region at large. Erdogan is expansionist and wants to reclaim the Ottoman territories. Despite his own personal sentiments about Israel, the Turkish population wants him to be more involved and to do more for the Palestinians. His lack of action is why his party lost during the last elections. And since then, he has dialled up his rhetorics against Israel because he read the room. Turkey is a more powerful military power than Iran and a Sunni nation. The Egyptian and Iranian President held a meeting for the first time in 12 years, facilitated by Turkey. Israel (through whatever intervention) just replaced a Shia enemy with a Sunni enemy
Well, either let it or not. The argument for letting it is that it would be the 'natural' state of things and it would de facto become a 'palestinian' state. The problem for Israel is that this new state would no doubt attack it.
It’s not fashionable among the chattering classes to praise Israel. 😂😂 They’ll choke on their tongues if a word of praise for Israel escapes their mouths 😅
The intellectual laziness in this conversation is astounding. Notice how they discuss Syria as an open-ended question on what kind of state it will be but the Palestinian State is discussed as some idyllic vision that depends only on Israel allowing it to happen. Yawn.
There is no Palestinian state. The last and only elections were held on the West Bank of the Jordan River in the Palestinian Authorities '-held areas in 1996. If the Palestinians were to vote, Hamas would win hands down, just like in Gaza in 2006. You're right there is no open-ended question about Syria. With the Turkish-backed Sunna Islamic rebels, the most optimistic possibility is a regime similar to Egypt, but most likely identical to Assads Regime. Pro Sunna instead of Alawites.
@@fenderek666 What is untrue is that if Israel falls the region wont be some sort of idyllic, peaceful and democratic society where Muslims, Jews and Christians live together peacefully. There will be a power vacuum creating a blood bath that makes Gaza look like a Sunday picnic
If it were not for the US Isræl would have lost this round. The US Congress and the administration, which are driven by AIPAC, have been giving isræl all it needed to ensure they don’t lose this round.
Sorry, i'm missing a point here, please explain. If the Saudi's are so 'supportive' of the Palestinians, why didn't they welcome the population into Saudi? As far as we can tell, none of the Arab/Muslim countries have lifted in a little finger to help the Palestinians. Am I missing something?
This discussion raises vital questions about the future of Middle East geopolitics. Do you think the rise and fall of regimes here is shaped more by internal politics or external interventions?
ask anyone who actually knows, Iran is the super power in the region in terms of conventional weapons and could produce a nuke within weeks if they wanted to
Its a good honest discussion not delusional or naive. Matt Frei and co understand their stuff and are asking good questions, and giving answers that are nuanced not biased.
The same story of Ayatollah Khomeini interview in France, he was talking about democracy, human rights and Iranian' well being and many other good and positive ideas, and when he came to power everything was changed as he ordered the killing of many oppositions and high ranking generals and other military members.
The west especially US wants democracy means the country should be in their control, if people goes against them then they do not need democracy. Hypocrite, US is greatest satan.
The west especially wants democracy means the country should be in their control, if people goes against them then they do not need democracy. Hypocrite, US is greatest satan.
As Muslims, we follow God's rule (shariah). We Muslims reject Democracy and we will not allow democracy in our lands. We can see how great democracy is in your own countries.
Interesting how the guy in there middle evaded answering the question posed whether it was Israel that made the fall of Assad possible by wallowing in his own experience es. Who cares! How about answering the initial question that you derailed.
Democracy needs at least 2 parties in the government, Voted by people in that county, No Religious Rules, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of choice, Women's rights.
Why has channel 4 ignored the apathy Jim Crow state in the Jewish state no reporting whatsoever for years why 30,000 women and children? Why don’t you report about that but you don’t do you there’s a story.
☝🇹🇷TURKEY🤝🇺🇦UKRAYNA🤝🇮🇱ISRAEL A HİSTORİC MOMENTS IN SYRIA DAMASCUS 🇷🇺Putin loses against 🇹🇷🇮🇱🇺🇦Erdoğan Netanjahu 🇸🇾Assad loses against 🇹🇷🇮🇱🇺🇦Erdoğan Netanjahu 🇮🇷Peseschkian loses against 🇹🇷🇮🇱🇺🇦Erdoğan Netanjahu
Show me one single example of radical Islam taking over and they all went off singing kumbaya...these commentators/journalists live in an alternative reality...
LETS NOT FORGET THE INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED AND THEIR LANDS THAT WERE TAKIN FROM THEM🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸.. AS HUMANS WE ONLY NEED TO THINK "WHAT IF THESE WERE MY FAMILY"?????
Ahmed Al-Shar'a is just a man, a fighter that has seen a lot of bloodshed and fatigueness in his people. He also is tired of war. So he just want to govern Syria and build Syria towards peace and prosperity for Syrian people and himself.
Fatigueness and tiredness is just a phase. Syria will be rebuilt, the primary needs of Syrians (stability) will likely be achieved at some point and he will have a stronger hold on power. When that happens, his attention and priorities will likely change. His family is from the Golan heights communities annexed by Israel. That is why his nickname is "al-Jolani (the man from Golan) His father used to be a staunch PLO activist that worked with Arafat in Jordan. You don't she'd these sentiments. They might lie dormant for a while but they'd become a priority. Then you have Erdogan his backer/puppet master who wants to reclaim the former Ottoman territories that includes Jerusalem. So much will happen in the long term in the Levant and I don't envy the Israelis
Peace be with you ❤️ When the Latter rain of the Holy Spirit falls and the fruit of the Holy Spirit is borne, when the grains become Golden Grains, the harvest of GOD the Father is accomplished and the LORD JESUS CHRIST Returns with the Power of Glory. *Joel **2:28**-32 I will pour out my Spirit on all people* *Galatians 5:16-26 Works of the flesh and fruits of the Spirit* *John 15:1-2 I am the vine, you are the branches* The Last Day is Near! Thanks to the blessings of the Holy Spirit of the latter rain, I hope that we will all walk together in the unity of the Holy Spirit and become the Golden Grain of the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST! *Amos 9:9* *Revelation 14:14-16 The Last harvest* May the grace of GOD the Father and the work of the Holy Spirit be with all brothers and sisters who walk the path of Light of the LORD JESUS CHRIST! 💎🌾💖
al-Jawlani's patience with Russia's bases is not positive for his legacy. In 2025, he will be seen as weak, because he did nothing to protect Syria's territorial integrity or assets against Israel or Turkey, let alone Russia. Then he will have to fall back on his Islamic fundamentalism to maintain his support base. None of this looks good for Syrians.
The west bank can very easily be annexed. All the arabs in the west bank due to Jordan's historic occupation all have Jordanian citizenship. If Israel annexes the west bank, it is easy and doable. Gaza however is different, the egyptians never issued citizenship.
Not Hezbollah, Qassam, Deeb, or any of those organizations directly for counter-target confrontations But I confirm the talk about elements that move invisible and work for changes that are counter to the central goals. Their movements are according to undeclared organizations #SHW🌐
Religion has no land. Have you ever heard of “Christian land” or “Muslim land” or Buddha land? Religion is neither a race nor a national identity. Don’t tell me the Jews of Ethiopia and the German and Russian Jews were the inhabitants of Palatine 3,500 years ago. Last time I checked I couldn’t find “God” in the real estate business directory
Netanyahu is born to Mileikowsky, a squatter from Poland, Ben Gurion is Polish, Golda Meir is Ukrainian, Moshe Dayan is Ukrainian, Shimon Peres is from Belarus. They say they are Jews but are without Semitic lineage. They're descended from Khazars who converted en masse to Judaism, to avoid taking sides between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires. These who say they are Jews but are without Semitic lineage were transplanted to Palestine starting from the early 1900's to 1948 by the British empire and Rothschilds (who funded Scofield to distort the New Testament and brainwash evangelicals like Huckabee), from places like Kiev, Bucharest, Berlin, Budapest, Warsaw, and Moscow, to displace and commit atrocities against Palestinian Jews, Christians, and Muslims who had lived in peace for centuries.
It would be a lot easier to listen to these "Fourcasts" if the host didn't constantly make "mmm" and "yep" reactions at the same volume as the guest talking, and interrupting their sentences whenever a thought pops into his head!
You guys are too optimistic about Ahmed Hussein Al-Sharaa (Al-Julani). Now you are going to be falling in love with him in false premises. Al-Sharaa hates the entire west. He is another Bin Ladden. He must come down and pretend because he learned, in the hardest way ever, from the late Bin Laden, Al-Zarqawi, Al-Zawahiri, Al-Baghdadi, Yehiya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, Qassem Soleimani, Ibrahim Raisi, Ismail Haniyeh, .....etc.
That's true a russia, you pull back the curtain and there's this little old man sitting behind the curtain like in the wizard of oz.😂😂 The great big bear turned out to be a weasel.
I'm wondering if the Turks gave their support partly on the basis that they wouldn't stop the Turks and their Syrian proxies the SNA from attacking the Kurds.
Palestinians choose what they got. maybe they feel sorry for themselves about their election when they could have a country and leave in peace. opportunities do not come back when you do not take them. Ask Clinton.
Jolani is always a rebel don't ever think that he will change his demeanor on the christians and other religions,he's Muslim so ofcourse he loves death than life, he's just pretending to be nice infront of cam so he and his groups can get sympathy around the world,and gets help to other countries but in reality,these kind of people are after cash so they can get power.
Luckily there are no gods, but if there were such a thing he would have saved the thousands of children that were massacred and those still under the rubble in Gaza.
@@John_Urnagbob You're so lost my friend. It's even sadder considering that we're in the last days. You're right, there are no "gods", there is only 1 God. Jesus Christ is God and we will all face Him when we die. Wake up and realize that we have free will. Humans massacred those children. This world is fallen. We are full of sin. All these deaths are a result of sin. We either have free will or we don't so we must face whatever consequences our actions create.
We are only helping people at this time, what difference does it make where we live? Because I have to fulfill my responsibility honestly and remain honest and it is not necessary that my responsibility will be fulfilled only by coming to Israel, it is the age of internet and I can complete my work easily. I am not doing any online business. Nor am I doing any business. My responsibility is to lead people on the right path who want to walk. And to provide correct information to those who are entitled.
Why you are talking as they are good people after 4 days of thus interview , some foreigners from hts burnt a Christmas tree in a village in hama , we don't talk about the chaos abd killing against alwaity , so do you think that hts will act good in few months ????
The naivety of them thinking it's gonna be a democratic future for Syria.
This is none of your business
And why do you care? Was Assad any better?
@@Jinn-ww5co really? Last time I checked war affects us ALL & our governments use OUR taxed abroad to fund them by selling weapons, instead of at home taking care of the people in need.
Assad was not any better but if they be as naive as they are things might get bad again, however do they care? No
For years Asad, RUSSIA and Iranian Regime were killing people there as they are doing the same things in their country and none of them cared.
You are so wise. Yes a Norway wont suddenly emerge. The best you can do is be positive or better yet actually helpful. As if Europe snapped from kingdom to democracy in a day.
I have no issue with discussions like this with its abundantly obvious biases. However, I think it wrong that the very same people are those who go to these places and we expect to report the ‘facts’ with as little bias as humanly possible. You simply cannot be both a credible ‘reporter’ and a ‘commentator’.
My message to west is: Don’t underestimate Islamists on playing games with you. It is great that the new people in power in Syria have already said the right things and had not done a lot of wrong things. I hope they have changed. But be careful, they might be still what they used to be.
100%
dont forget the zionist are just as bad if not worse.
They'll be treated the same as any other past regime if they try anything.
A leopard doesn't change its spots.
zionists are more dangerous.
lol.
People think an ex isis member is now moderate.
People never learn.
He was affiliated with al qaeda not isis
He's infinitely better than that selfish dictator Bashar Assad.
Bro I wish that right wing people were as understanding to the environment in which some people were raised as they are when it comes to defending and justifying Trumps crimes. Or even American politicians crimes. You act like someone who was radicalised because of how he was treated by an invader is worse than for example American politicians who knowingly invaded Iraq with false accusations of owning nuclear weapons. Be fair and consistent.
@@Hugo97HD lol clown have you seen american going to forcefully kill people for them to become christians? like wtf
@Hugo97HD I agree with you. But Americans overthrew a genocidal totalitarian in 2003. Not exactly the same thing as overthrowing a democracy.
😂😂😂. Democracy in Syria? The joke of the year with Al Nusra pushed to power by Turkey.
Al-Julani is independent
He said that I only care about the Syrian people
@@Jinn-ww5co An Islamist is by definition not independent.
@@zensamui2409 God willing...it will be better than your corrupt, terrorist, global bully, genocidal democracy!
Turkye is the biggest terror state in the region. Erdogan is a murderous dictator and needs to be stopped.
Got to laugh at these commentators who think Jalani is ok. They are idiots. He is saying all the right things until he gets his seat under the table and secures his position. Then the blood will flow. One ruthless dictator is being replaced by another. How long will it take before the idiots begin to realise this ?
Time for channel 4 to say thankyou and apologise to israel
Arrest Netanyahu ASAP
@@JamesBalmforth he should get time magazine person of the year and a noble peace prize 🏆. 🌎😍🇮🇱
Thank you and apologise for what? You and your commentators seem ignorant.
Amazing the original comment hasn't been deleted yet.
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PLEASE leave the KURDS alone MR AL-SHARAA ISRAEL is also tired of conflict and
means SYRIA no harm, just seek to protect themselves, but TURKEYE is OUT TO FIGHT !
The SYRIANS DON'T NEED ANOTHER FIGHT ! PLEASE use your influence to avert the TURKS and mr erdogan !
Leave the Christians alone too.
I do not desire to be a conspiracy theorist, so please recognize my lack of discernment surrounding Israel and their recent success, given this unexplainable series of recent events, a true David verses Goliath analogy. Could it be that there is an element of Divine intervention, that has secured these unbelievable victories. There it is, I said it, Does Israel have God in their corner? ONLY ASKING!
No. Israelis fight like lions because their families have no place to go. Settler colonists in Algiers had France, in India - had Britain, etc. Israelis don’t have any place to return to.
@@garthreid7114Israel doesn't need God on its side.
They "win" by disregarding all laws and committing war crimes. Arrest Netanyahu ASAP.
It has the United States, the world’s biggest superpower, in its corner.
What, you think Israel are 'David', with the USA behind them, inseparable from them all the way? You probably believe those Whitehouse press briefings about Biden trying to control, or pull back Netanyahu, too do you? Very naive my friend.
I think this is a significant misunderstanding of Israeli society in general, and it's current attitude towards PM Netanyahu in particular 14:17. Yes, Netanyahu's political fortunes have improved since October 7th, given the successes against Hamas, Iran, and in particular Hezbollah. That said, most polls still consistently show the current coalition government dropping to 43% of the Knesset (Israeli parliament), down from their current 57% majority. That a huge 25% drop. Conversely, most Israelis, including left-wing Israelis, disdain International organizations and NGOs, such as the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnestying, Red Cross, etc. They consider them to be inherently anti-Israeli, and mostly anti-semitic. As a result, the attitudes of the organizations towards Netanyahu actually serve to increase support for him. Also, many Israelis want the war in end not because of pity towards Palestinians - whom they consider responsible for the current situation - but because they prioritize the release of the hostages. If not for that, most Israelis would like to see Hamas wholly destroyed.
Arrest Netanyahu ASAP
You need to listen to Bridget Gabriel on the rebels. She’s Lebanon born lives in USA. Survivor of terrorism. She is a security analyst. 😲🧐
No thanks !
@ truth hurts I guess 🤷🏻♀️
She's a dangerous ultra right wing zionist. You won't get the tiniest spec of objectivity there.
Oh god how stupid these people r. Cheering for alqeada and hoping something good comes out of it!! Pffff
So? Them being bad is propaganda.
What’s your other solution dude? Invading Siria to put people you’re comfortable with in power? They just took over 2 weeks ago, let’s see what happens.
@@ranro7371 In a terrorists words
Assad was good?
Turkye is the biggest terror state in the region. Erdogan is a murderous dictator and needs to be stopped.
Palestinians won’t accept?! Palestinians are not in position to accept or reject, they lost the war, Israel won! To victor go the spoils!
Not a victor, just a criminal
@ victors are not judged!
@@Sunny-ci7nm They are jailed. Arrest Netanyahu ASAP
Israel hasn't won. It hasn't achieved its goals in Gaza. It hasn't defeated Hanas, Hezbollah or Iran and without US backing it would have been crushed and its genocide against the Palestinians halted. Also, Israel's leader Netanyahu is wanted war criminal whose movements around the world has been severely restricted. He is in the same boat as Putin as both will be absent at international gatherings.
Israel's reputation around the globe is trashed and the international community have finally seen Israel in its true colours. A terrorist nation full of murderers, land grabbing thieves, rapists and child molesters.
Don't count your chickens before they have hatched.
@@Sunny-ci7nm
The whole civilised world is judging them
How easy to pontificate without acknowledging that it was the brilliant strategy and dedication of ordinary Israelis in the armed forces who have changed the entire middle east. Where is your acknowledgement of this. Easy to call Hezbollah and Iran etc ‘Paper Tigers’ but they’re only that now because of the strategy that has decimated these evil
Forces and top people where even all the power of the USA and the rest of the world achieved nothing which allowed these forces to grow. Why not give credit where it’s due whilst you’re all sitting comfortably pontificating
Excellent point
That implies that Muslim societies are authoritarian and illiberal in nature whereas fundamentalist movements in the region must be identified as reactions towards western imperialism. Without Israeli occupation, no enemy to fight for Israelis.
@@jakobdrews8958 Muslim societies *are* authoritarian and illberal in nature, and the ‘fundamentalist’ movements are *not* in reaction to ‘Western imperialism’ but to the failure of *their own* imperialism, especially its failure to destroy the Jewish state.
@@jakobdrews8958😂 ahhhh yes Sunni and Shia are just peaceful friends, and they have a history of living very happily side by side with ethnic and religious minorities 😂
@@Atowns If you go back in history you'll find a lot of examples of liberal Muslim societies - mostly at times with relative self determination, without foreign intervention or under the hegemonial umbrella of a larger empire. It's less about Sunni or Shia but about social cohesion and the disturbance of it 🙂↕️
When Bashar took over for his father many commentators were hailing him as a man of peace and this went on for some time. Well it did not turn out that way and men of peace in the Middle East are rarities. Westerners hope that the new Syrian regime will be peaceful but don't get your hopes up too high.
Why is the west so damn ignorant and slow to understand?
Excellent insight into the situation, BUT surprised there was hardly any mention of Turkey, the fastest growing regional power, and none whatsoever of the Kurds. 🤔
EXACTLY!! Turkey is probably the most important player and factor in Syria and the Levant region at large. Erdogan is expansionist and wants to reclaim the Ottoman territories. Despite his own personal sentiments about Israel, the Turkish population wants him to be more involved and to do more for the Palestinians. His lack of action is why his party lost during the last elections. And since then, he has dialled up his rhetorics against Israel because he read the room. Turkey is a more powerful military power than Iran and a Sunni nation. The Egyptian and Iranian President held a meeting for the first time in 12 years, facilitated by Turkey. Israel (through whatever intervention) just replaced a Shia enemy with a Sunni enemy
Turkey is a sham country a coward they are the same like israel the best military in the world
They don’t want to talk about the land taken by Turkey or the bombardment of the Kurds
I hope the Arabs have a second chance in liberating themselves from American imperialism.
definitely a better way to share the news. good podcast!
When ignorant people discuss other people's fate, it always backfires.
What will Israel do if the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan crumbles and falls?
good question
Very good point and perhaps the next piece in the russo iranian chess move
Well, either let it or not. The argument for letting it is that it would be the 'natural' state of things and it would de facto become a 'palestinian' state. The problem for Israel is that this new state would no doubt attack it.
What these westspeak chattering classes don't get is that cause and effect- the basis of thinking from the age of enlightenment on- is haram...
Israelis defended Hashemites in the past. Now Israelis took over Daraa in Syria, the only paved route from Syria to Jordan. Pray for Hashemites.
DENIAL ISN’T JUST A RIVER IN EGYPT
Syria the islamic caliphate supported by Turkey what democracy 😂😂😂
Since when were isis and alqaeda trustworthy??? When you watch this program. You have to cry for the American people ..
Can journalists ever not interrupt?? For Gods sake let them speak……🤬
Exactly!! Mr I-know-It-All Why do Journalists esp hosts always interrupt ? We want to listen ti the points of view of the guests ...someone please
Syria is overwhelmingly Sunni Muslim, the Sunnis should decide how to run their country, that is a democracy
true, Britain is overwhelmingly white. White people should decide how to run their country, that is democracy....
Did israels actions have anything to do with assad fall? Nobody answers
The elephant in the room
It’s not fashionable among the chattering classes to praise Israel. 😂😂 They’ll choke on their tongues if a word of praise for Israel escapes their mouths 😅
Well Israel sure helped out by eliminating Hezbollah from helping Assad and Russia was impotent with their debacle in Ukraine
Thanks for posting.
The intellectual laziness in this conversation is astounding.
Notice how they discuss Syria as an open-ended question on what kind of state it will be but the Palestinian State is discussed as some idyllic vision that depends only on Israel allowing it to happen.
Yawn.
That is the reality whether you like it or not.
I thought it was revealing the host said the ex Al Qaeda guy was making all the right noises but “Israel is now unleashed”. Love Channel 4 😂😂😂😂
There is no Palestinian state. The last and only elections were held on the West Bank of the Jordan River in the Palestinian Authorities '-held areas in 1996. If the Palestinians were to vote, Hamas would win hands down, just like in Gaza in 2006.
You're right there is no open-ended question about Syria. With the Turkish-backed Sunna Islamic rebels, the most optimistic possibility is a regime similar to Egypt, but most likely identical to Assads Regime. Pro Sunna instead of Alawites.
@@stompie51
And what is untrue about it?
@@fenderek666 What is untrue is that if Israel falls the region wont be some sort of idyllic, peaceful and democratic society where Muslims, Jews and Christians live together peacefully. There will be a power vacuum creating a blood bath that makes Gaza look like a Sunday picnic
If it were not for the US Isræl would have lost this round. The US Congress and the administration, which are driven by AIPAC, have been giving isræl all it needed to ensure they don’t lose this round.
Well Iran has so much oil and it’s has its own suppliers like China or Russia, but it didn’t help them
Sorry, i'm missing a point here, please explain.
If the Saudi's are so 'supportive' of the Palestinians, why didn't they welcome the population into Saudi? As far as we can tell, none of the Arab/Muslim countries have lifted in a little finger to help the Palestinians. Am I missing something?
Saudis are not Palestinians. Look what happened when they offloaded all the 😊fleeing Europeans into West Asia. Not exactly going well is it?
Let's not forget that, "allah is the best deceiver" (Qur'an)
This discussion raises vital questions about the future of Middle East geopolitics. Do you think the rise and fall of regimes here is shaped more by internal politics or external interventions?
ask anyone who actually knows, Iran is the super power in the region in terms of conventional weapons and could produce a nuke within weeks if they wanted to
Its a good honest discussion not delusional or naive. Matt Frei and co understand their stuff and are asking good questions, and giving answers that are nuanced not biased.
The same story of Ayatollah Khomeini interview in France, he was talking about democracy, human rights and Iranian' well being and many other good and positive ideas, and when he came to power everything was changed as he ordered the killing of many oppositions and high ranking generals and other military members.
West democracy for the East means the country's people should be in control of west imperialism. The West is evil in their rules.
The west especially US wants democracy means the country should be in their control, if people goes against them then they do not need democracy. Hypocrite, US is greatest satan.
The west especially wants democracy means the country should be in their control, if people goes against them then they do not need democracy. Hypocrite, US is greatest satan.
Which muslim country is a true democracy? What the heck makes them think Syria is going to be different?
Which western country is a true democracy? You heard of lobbying? You heard of media manipulation? Two party systems?
As Muslims, we follow God's rule (shariah). We Muslims reject Democracy and we will not allow democracy in our lands. We can see how great democracy is in your own countries.
The host should let his guests speak more and quit cutting in so often.
Low level discussion. Unfortunate, I had hopes…
excellent conversation . Very insightful . I really hope Syria will be able to chart its own destiny in peace .
Interesting how the guy in there middle evaded answering the question posed whether it was Israel that made the fall of Assad possible by wallowing in his own experience es. Who cares! How about answering the initial question that you derailed.
Sekunder Kermani could nest quite a few birds in his hair. Very impressive. 😂
A leopard can hide,but can it change its spots?Jolani pulled a decorated Christmas tree out,of the ground.What does that tell you.
Cant even say that Hamas killed the 6 hostages... You Said they "ended up dead". Where is your humanity?
Democracy needs at least 2 parties in the government, Voted by people in that county, No Religious Rules, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of choice,
Women's rights.
What about democracy in Israel, freedom of speech, religious rules.
Why has channel 4 ignored the apathy Jim Crow state in the Jewish state no reporting whatsoever for years why 30,000 women and children? Why don’t you report about that but you don’t do you there’s a story.
Wow, they make something frightening and then they call it paper tiger themselves …
What a funny people are you ???
Really …
Long live Isreal
No thanks.
Long live the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Genocidal murderers, Netanyahu is just like Putin.
@@ultra-conservative no thanks
A fascinating discussion
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Show me one single example of radical Islam taking over and they all went off singing kumbaya...these commentators/journalists live in an alternative reality...
Radical Islam is weakening and Iran are suffering from electricity and doing loadshredding 😂
Show me one example of West not meddling in the Middle East...
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AS HUMANS WE ONLY NEED TO THINK "WHAT IF THESE WERE MY FAMILY"?????
These guys don’t know what they are talking about 😅
Same old same old for women in Syria
Wait for few months HtS asking donations from west a year later a new gaza is built 😂😂😂
Keep promoting Golany and his terrorists, knowing well that they will repeat what Sinoar did, then the whole game of land grap will take place.
But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. Joel 3:20
Ahmed Al-Shar'a is just a man, a fighter that has seen a lot of bloodshed and fatigueness in his people. He also is tired of war. So he just want to govern Syria and build Syria towards peace and prosperity for Syrian people and himself.
Fatigueness and tiredness is just a phase. Syria will be rebuilt, the primary needs of Syrians (stability) will likely be achieved at some point and he will have a stronger hold on power. When that happens, his attention and priorities will likely change. His family is from the Golan heights communities annexed by Israel. That is why his nickname is "al-Jolani (the man from Golan) His father used to be a staunch PLO activist that worked with Arafat in Jordan. You don't she'd these sentiments. They might lie dormant for a while but they'd become a priority. Then you have Erdogan his backer/puppet master who wants to reclaim the former Ottoman territories that includes Jerusalem. So much will happen in the long term in the Levant and I don't envy the Israelis
I don't think anyone can take Jerusalem from the isrealI. THE MUSLIMS MIGHT TRY BUT WON'T WIN
Cool story.
When were the elections? I cant remember.
@@i20010 Should be earlier this year. Around March and April..not sure. But I know it is first quarter of 2024.
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Will Syria follow Libyaor Afghanistan both being a disaster?
al-Jawlani's patience with Russia's bases is not positive for his legacy.
In 2025, he will be seen as weak, because he did nothing to protect Syria's territorial integrity or assets against Israel or Turkey, let alone Russia.
Then he will have to fall back on his Islamic fundamentalism to maintain his support base.
None of this looks good for Syrians.
Sekunda Kermani views towards Iran are bias. Hez isn't a paper tiger they're the only Arab military to defeat Israel twice.
That's a past, though.
Now they seem very weakened
@fenderek666 I agree they are, but doesn't mean they're a paper tiger.
Iran is Persian, not Arab.
When was that? Not recently
The west bank can very easily be annexed. All the arabs in the west bank due to Jordan's historic occupation all have Jordanian citizenship. If Israel annexes the west bank, it is easy and doable. Gaza however is different, the egyptians never issued citizenship.
So give it to Jordan and let them have the headache. Israel and Jordan have collaborated since 1948.
@@tonylove4800 Jordan gave it up in 1988, no arab country wants the Palestine Problem.
You could have pushed back against ICC claims and Genocide label but you all are just not informed or interested enough
Their journalists, not the propaganda department of IDF, I think your looking BBC champ
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I liked the comment about the Islamic Republic of Iran being a paper tiger😁
You should remember that these are the same people who said the in the second attack 99.999% of the missiles were intercepted😂😂😂😂
We will show you who is paper tiger!!!!!!😂😂😂😂
Not Hezbollah, Qassam, Deeb, or any of
those organizations directly for counter-target confrontations
But I confirm the talk about elements that move invisible and work for changes that are counter to the central goals. Their movements are according to undeclared organizations
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There is no West Bank. The land’s name is Samaria and Judea for 3 500 years.
Religion has no land. Have you ever heard of “Christian land” or “Muslim land” or Buddha land? Religion is neither a race nor a national identity. Don’t tell me the Jews of Ethiopia and the German and Russian Jews were the inhabitants of Palatine 3,500 years ago. Last time I checked I couldn’t find “God” in the real estate business directory
Britain is just like Iran an old man inside if you pull the curtain of the American
It is.
Netanyahu is born to Mileikowsky, a squatter from Poland, Ben Gurion is Polish, Golda Meir is Ukrainian, Moshe Dayan is Ukrainian, Shimon Peres is from Belarus. They say they are Jews but are without Semitic lineage. They're descended from Khazars who converted en masse to Judaism, to avoid taking sides between the Ottoman and Byzantine empires.
These who say they are Jews but are without Semitic lineage were transplanted to Palestine starting from the early 1900's to 1948 by the British empire and Rothschilds (who funded Scofield to distort the New Testament and brainwash evangelicals like Huckabee), from places like Kiev, Bucharest, Berlin, Budapest, Warsaw, and Moscow, to displace and commit atrocities against Palestinian Jews, Christians, and Muslims who had lived in peace for centuries.
Iran is not our enemy
It would be a lot easier to listen to these "Fourcasts" if the host didn't constantly make "mmm" and "yep" reactions at the same volume as the guest talking, and interrupting their sentences whenever a thought pops into his head!
Lets just all ignore Israel's responsibility for all the trouble in the Middle East!
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What ? We can not leave this sliver of land in peace . The greed of the human is great evil .
A sobering development for putin too.no matter how deep you think your roots run the rug can still be quickly pulled from under your feet.
You guys are too optimistic about Ahmed Hussein Al-Sharaa (Al-Julani). Now you are going to be falling in love with him in false premises.
Al-Sharaa hates the entire west. He is another Bin Ladden.
He must come down and pretend because he learned, in the hardest way ever, from the late Bin Laden, Al-Zarqawi, Al-Zawahiri, Al-Baghdadi, Yehiya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, Qassem Soleimani, Ibrahim Raisi, Ismail Haniyeh, .....etc.
The paper tiger is the one that everynight its population out in the refuge place!!!!
Ah Iran in the 60s.
Mosard was throwing students off of hills for speaking against the Shah.
yeah because Syria is really going to be a success story in the coming years....hopeless !
That's true a russia, you pull back the curtain and there's this little old man sitting behind the curtain like in the wizard of oz.😂😂 The great big bear turned out to be a weasel.
Channel 4 News UK 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm wondering if the Turks gave their support partly on the basis that they wouldn't stop the Turks and their Syrian proxies the SNA from attacking the Kurds.
These guys are definition of a coward.
Honestly I can't believe these are the reporters who try to be fair lol 😂🙏.. I feel sorry for the Palestinians..
Palestinians choose what they got. maybe they feel sorry for themselves about their election when they could have a country and leave in peace. opportunities do not come back when you do not take them. Ask Clinton.
What a bunch of clowns. Iran is strategic in pulling back
This is unbearable to watch
Just a few countries all those who have big natural resources like gas and oil can be sustainable states
Peace in our time....british thinking 😂
Jolani is always a rebel don't ever think that he will change his demeanor on the christians and other religions,he's Muslim so ofcourse he loves death than life, he's just pretending to be nice infront of cam so he and his groups can get sympathy around the world,and gets help to other countries but in reality,these kind of people are after cash so they can get power.
God bless Israel
Leveticus 26
Luckily there are no gods, but if there were such a thing he would have saved the thousands of children that were massacred and those still under the rubble in Gaza.
Free America from Israel and LGBTQ. Everyone hates Israel and LGBTQ.
Move Israel to the USA where it belongs.
@@John_Urnagbob You're so lost my friend. It's even sadder considering that we're in the last days. You're right, there are no "gods", there is only 1 God. Jesus Christ is God and we will all face Him when we die. Wake up and realize that we have free will. Humans massacred those children. This world is fallen. We are full of sin. All these deaths are a result of sin. We either have free will or we don't so we must face whatever consequences our actions create.
It just hurts too much q
A leopard cannot change his spots. This whole discussion is not at all useful, as a way to try and forecast the future
Sure Netanyahu is Tiger for you guys wow 75 years old state wrote the history :))))
We are only helping people at this time, what difference does it make where we live? Because I have to fulfill my responsibility honestly and remain honest and it is not necessary that my responsibility will be fulfilled only by coming to Israel, it is the age of internet and I can complete my work easily. I am not doing any online business. Nor am I doing any business. My responsibility is to lead people on the right path who want to walk. And to provide correct information to those who are entitled.
These journalist are very naive. Living in a fools paradise
Listening to the channel 4 Marxists on what is next for the middle east is like asking lemmings about cliff erosion.
Why you are talking as they are good people after 4 days of thus interview , some foreigners from hts burnt a Christmas tree in a village in hama , we don't talk about the chaos abd killing against alwaity , so do you think that hts will act good in few months ????
As long as no one listens to your channel is the main thing
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