Again a nice video! 50 pounds for that is incredible. In France, we should look at 120 euros minimum for a used X260, and not for this top tier model. Usually, we get 128/256Go and 8 Go RAM with the i3-6100u or i5-6200u/6300u, no backlit keyboard and the basic TN screen. Don't forget to say that you got a SD card reader and 3 USB ports, wich is amazing for such a small form factor laptop, you can plug a mouse, a headset and an external storage at the same time. The Intel HD 520 graphics is a solid iGPU for older or lightweight games, but unfortunately, you will not have Dual channel compatibility due to the single RAM slot in the X260 architecture. I played on this iGPU on a i3-6300u x260 from 2017 to 2023. I used to play a nice amount of games on a stable basis without stutters or freeze. With plugged power and ajusted settings at 1368x766, like: Minecraft (Sodium+Iris, like you, 50 fps locked), Stardew Valley, (high 60fps) Team Fortress 2, (low 45fps locked) CS source, (High 60fps) TES Oblivion, (High 50fps locked) TES Skyrim non SE (low 50fps, medium 30 locked) Civilization V (Low DX9 50fps locked) Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion ( high 50 locked) Tomb Raider 2013 (low 30 fps locked) Mount & Blade Warband (Medium 50 fps locked) MW3 2011 ( Medium 30 fps locked) Quake 4 (High 60fps) RealRTCW (High 60fps) XIII (High 60fps) League of Legends (Medium-low 50 fps) Among Us (max, 60fps) The thermals were High, with around 80/90°C when on heaviest games on the list ( the low fps locked ones), but on most games, not going to more than 82/83°C after multiple hours. If using Linux (Ubuntu and Mint for me), some native games are runing better like Minecraft (no Sodium), Tomb Raider 2013 and Civilization V. I think you can have 10/15% better graphic performances with the top model X270 i-7 7600U and Intel HD 620 with 2400Mhz RAM. I really love those videos, it's very interesting to see what is the market in other countries and see that massive difference between UK and France (I assume you are in UK, correct me if i'm wrong). Best regards.
For those saying the price is bonkers and fake, please remember these two things : - This computer was purchased in the U.K, where the used market is absolutely insane. - The pound is a fairly strong currency, 50 pounds is 65$
Exactly, the used market gets crazy when companies and schools retire their old stock around summer. You can find these deals randomly, I'd admit it does take a bit of luck.
@@cephacore the x2x0T seriers are the convertazb le tablets, screen turns 180deg and lays flat against the keyboard, and the screen is essentially a fully pressure sensitive wacom tablet.
I had a P51s and despised it. The thing ran slow and hot, the keyboard was horrible, and the SSD would randomly disconnect. Is the normal P51 any better?
@mysticaxolotl8215 I've had no issues speed wise. I think there is a bit of a heat thing, though. Improved after a clean and paste, etc, but still not the best. In saying this, I notice the exhaust heat more from the t490s if I'm using it on my lap.
I picked up a x280 i3, 8gb and 256ssd for £59. Didn't come with a charger. But £59 for a Windows 11 laptop that has a 1080p IPS screen. Can't complain. Ran the battery report and it only showed 16 cycles. Some scratches on the lid, but apart from that the laptop almost looks new.
@@cephacore I have had it for over a year now. It has been a pretty solid device. I did add another 8gb of ram. Has a total of 16gb now. They can be found. Just got to look.
I got 10 of those last year for $50. They didn't come with RAM and hard drives. There were three i7s and seven i5s. I had some DDR4 RAM sticks laying around. I bought some cheap SSDs. I put Windows 10 on them and donated them to friends and relatives.
@@cephacore There is a store near where I live that sells them really cheap depending on the condition. Prices vary, but the highest you'll pay for one laptop is $39. The most popular price is $18.
Man, better to go with x270, the last good x series upto 7th gen. And dual battery. However batteries are hard to find, but an absolute work horse. Mine a 6 th gen i5, with 50 chrome tabs, and 16 gb upgraded ram, and in addition running VMs.I have nothing to complain about ....... Except the bad hinges, as some brass thread inserts are broken, however fixable those are too close to other things and total disassembly required.
@@cephacore I don't tend to use the USB C much as - 1. It's soldered to the board, and if something breaks or cracks, that's another hassle beside the hinges 2. USB PD charging is not required for those old batteries, the left juice will ooze out ever faster or probably a bamm someday. I would suggest to limit the batteries to 80% from windows with the Vantage app, and from Linux there are threshold controlling extensions present in gnome.
You're correct on the latter, the price is absolutely bonkers. I showed the invoice in the intro, you really think I would've faked that.. ok 😂👍 Type in ThinkPad X260 on eBay UK. Sort to sold listings, look for 27th June. Bingo!
Just scored a T470 i5 with backlit keyboard, original nvme 256GB storage and original 8GB ram, never opened up and in very nice condition for £50 on EBay. I love finding Thinkpad bargains.
@@cephacorei love completely being wrong on the internet in the best way possible liked and subscribed, looking forward to see more tech videos from you man, watched this one all the way through for the algorithm ❤
Do you want better battery life? Get a T480, includes an external and internal battery. Can be swapped for other external batteries you may have. If you want something lighter, and less bulky get the T480S but it honestly doesn't make much difference. Get the T480, it's great.
What is the battery time on those (browsing/watching videos)? They seem to have all the power i would require of a secondary laptop, the only question is how long does the battery last. And yeah windows is definitely a good thing. Not that i hate linux.. but it´s rather inconvenient and (at least one my previous laptops) recuded the time running on battery power by roughly 40 mins to a full hour. (windows seems to have much better power management, or at least the drivers enable it to run more efficient, not sure what it is)
I've been using it for a couple of days so I'll give a few details. Normal usage (web browsing/watching videos), around 4-5 hrs at 75% brightness. You can buy a bigger 48/72whr battery for it, which will probably give it an extra few hours. A really good laptop for battery life given it's age
I hate it when poeple talk trash about TN panels. Most corporate laptops probably has cheap TN panels that were meant for office work. High-end older workstation THinkpads had good TN panels that were designed for work like CAD. And TN panels generally have better motion clarity than IPS. IPS probably has better colors. But some cheap IPS has awful ghosting due to low refresh rate. Low end TN panels are perfectly good enough for word processing and Excel work and web browsing. My daily driver has a decent TN with HD+ resolution, and it is perfectly good for me. But it is not good enough for photography-type tasks.
Sorry i would not want to trade my 2012 Dell E6430. Sure mine is not a thin and light, but i only use it at home on my desk anyway. And the i7-3740QM although being years older make the i7 title of the 6600U look like a sick joke from Intel. (The i73740QM is 3 years older then the i7-6600U but the 6600U is 40% slower). Also you can guess the E6430 second hand is even cheaper because price is not related to speed but to age, which i think is funny. Mine came equipped with 16Gb memory and a small 240Gb Samsung SSD.
Gotta think about the price I got it for, and it's intended use. The X260 is for a completely different market. The U series CPUs prioritize battery life over performance. So yes it'll be slower than a workstation CPU. I agree with your take on 6th Gen intel cpus, they could've been a lot better, 8th Gen saw massive improvements.
Again a nice video!
50 pounds for that is incredible. In France, we should look at 120 euros minimum for a used X260, and not for this top tier model. Usually, we get 128/256Go and 8 Go RAM with the i3-6100u or i5-6200u/6300u, no backlit keyboard and the basic TN screen.
Don't forget to say that you got a SD card reader and 3 USB ports, wich is amazing for such a small form factor laptop, you can plug a mouse, a headset and an external storage at the same time.
The Intel HD 520 graphics is a solid iGPU for older or lightweight games, but unfortunately, you will not have Dual channel compatibility due to the single RAM slot in the X260 architecture. I played on this iGPU on a i3-6300u x260 from 2017 to 2023.
I used to play a nice amount of games on a stable basis without stutters or freeze. With plugged power and ajusted settings at 1368x766, like:
Minecraft (Sodium+Iris, like you, 50 fps locked),
Stardew Valley, (high 60fps)
Team Fortress 2, (low 45fps locked)
CS source, (High 60fps)
TES Oblivion, (High 50fps locked)
TES Skyrim non SE (low 50fps, medium 30 locked)
Civilization V (Low DX9 50fps locked)
Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion ( high 50 locked)
Tomb Raider 2013 (low 30 fps locked)
Mount & Blade Warband (Medium 50 fps locked)
MW3 2011 ( Medium 30 fps locked)
Quake 4 (High 60fps)
RealRTCW (High 60fps)
XIII (High 60fps)
League of Legends (Medium-low 50 fps)
Among Us (max, 60fps)
The thermals were High, with around 80/90°C when on heaviest games on the list ( the low fps locked ones), but on most games, not going to more than 82/83°C after multiple hours.
If using Linux (Ubuntu and Mint for me), some native games are runing better like Minecraft (no Sodium), Tomb Raider 2013 and Civilization V.
I think you can have 10/15% better graphic performances with the top model X270 i-7 7600U and Intel HD 620 with 2400Mhz RAM.
I really love those videos, it's very interesting to see what is the market in other countries and see that massive difference between UK and France (I assume you are in UK, correct me if i'm wrong).
Best regards.
What a great comment, thanks for the info. Glad you enjoyed the video 😄
Pretty great of the seller to offer a replacement SSD on a laptop this cheap
Yep what a legend they were. Instant reply and dispatched the drive the same day. No further questions.
For those saying the price is bonkers and fake, please remember these two things :
- This computer was purchased in the U.K, where the used market is absolutely insane.
- The pound is a fairly strong currency, 50 pounds is 65$
Exactly, the used market gets crazy when companies and schools retire their old stock around summer. You can find these deals randomly, I'd admit it does take a bit of luck.
Yeah the uk is pretty insane. Picked up an l13 with a Ryzen 5 5650u back in around april for 150 quid
This is my main laptop that I still use everyday for college and I love this laptop. Still use it since 2017... Tho mine has a core i5
Still going strong. I would've loved to have this back in the day, such a great laptop.
I have X260 as well. My only regret is that X260 cannot accept 2242 SSD on its WWAN slot.
this model still cost around 100 usd here where I live. Still a good deal ngl. These are capable machines, even older thinkpads are good
Yep it's an excellent machine
I still use my x230t, mostly as a drawing tablet, but , it keeps up. loved their x series ultrabooks
never heard of that before, sounds sick 👌
@@cephacore the x2x0T seriers are the convertazb le tablets, screen turns 180deg and lays flat against the keyboard, and the screen is essentially a fully pressure sensitive wacom tablet.
Great video. Lenovo lover here t490s, p51 and p520 desktop. All used and trouble-free.
The P51 is a great workstation ThinkPad, hopefully I can get my hands on one of them. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks 👍
I had a P51s and despised it. The thing ran slow and hot, the keyboard was horrible, and the SSD would randomly disconnect. Is the normal P51 any better?
@mysticaxolotl8215 I've had no issues speed wise. I think there is a bit of a heat thing, though. Improved after a clean and paste, etc, but still not the best. In saying this, I notice the exhaust heat more from the t490s if I'm using it on my lap.
That was a Awesome seller!
Still a pretty good deal for light use tasks, especially considering the seller was willing to send you another SSD.
I got an x270 and pushed it to the max, 32GB RAM, 1,5 TB of storage with 2 SSds, dualboot windows 10 and Linux Mint and it is a great little companion
Sounds like a solid mini work horse. Glad you're putting it to good use 😄👌
I picked up a x280 i3, 8gb and 256ssd for £59. Didn't come with a charger. But £59 for a Windows 11 laptop that has a 1080p IPS screen. Can't complain.
Ran the battery report and it only showed 16 cycles. Some scratches on the lid, but apart from that the laptop almost looks new.
Damn that's a sick deal, don't think I've ever seen X280s that low. The battery could mean it was barely used too!
@@cephacore Yeah, they normally go for around £100, but this one is an i3 not the i5. Runs fine though.
My £80 w540 would kick the ass of most newer stuff in the sub £200 range, old laptops are best
Ooo W Series ThinkPad. That's sick.
I sold this laptop for $200 so I can get a gaming laptop but had good experience with this laptop. Used it for 7 yes till I replaced it
I got a HP X360 8th Gen I7 for $50. All it needed was thermal paste and a good cleaning.
Solid deal! Searching around there's always the chance to find deals like that.
@@cephacore I have had it for over a year now. It has been a pretty solid device. I did add another 8gb of ram. Has a total of 16gb now. They can be found. Just got to look.
I got 10 of those last year for $50. They didn't come with RAM and hard drives. There were three i7s and seven i5s. I had some DDR4 RAM sticks laying around. I bought some cheap SSDs. I put Windows 10 on them and donated them to friends and relatives.
Wow you got very lucky with that. Thats $5 per thinkpad
@@cephacore There is a store near where I live that sells them really cheap depending on the condition. Prices vary, but the highest you'll pay for one laptop is $39. The most popular price is $18.
Man, better to go with x270, the last good x series upto 7th gen. And dual battery. However batteries are hard to find, but an absolute work horse. Mine a 6 th gen i5, with 50 chrome tabs, and 16 gb upgraded ram, and in addition running VMs.I have nothing to complain about .......
Except the bad hinges, as some brass thread inserts are broken, however fixable those are too close to other things and total disassembly required.
True I love the X270, primarily for it's USB C which can double as a charging port. They are solid, and surprisingly quite modern machines to this day
@@cephacore I don't tend to use the USB C much as - 1. It's soldered to the board, and if something breaks or cracks, that's another hassle beside the hinges
2. USB PD charging is not required for those old batteries, the left juice will ooze out ever faster or probably a bamm someday.
I would suggest to limit the batteries to 80% from windows with the Vantage app, and from Linux there are threshold controlling extensions present in gnome.
"Comes with an i7", but an important note is it is a dual core cpu
Yh fair, but it is an 8 year old laptop. Back when Intel were hell bent on making their CPUs as bad as possible. Thank god for Ryzen
i mean, judgin by the thumbnail, yes, it's better THAN MY think...
ThinkPad t410 lol
Hey hey that's actually quite cool. Something about old thinkpads are so nostalgic
@@cephacore yes!. I love these old keyboards. It's main problem is RUclips, it struggles a lot with 1080p with the built in Nvs 3100m
you're lying for clickbait the price is absolutely bonkers
You're correct on the latter, the price is absolutely bonkers. I showed the invoice in the intro, you really think I would've faked that.. ok 😂👍
Type in ThinkPad X260 on eBay UK. Sort to sold listings, look for 27th June. Bingo!
He's not
I got my hands on an equivalent machine for $50 flat recently
Just scored a T470 i5 with backlit keyboard, original nvme 256GB storage and original 8GB ram, never opened up and in very nice condition for £50 on EBay. I love finding Thinkpad bargains.
@@cephacorei love completely being wrong on the internet in the best way possible
liked and subscribed, looking forward to see more tech videos from you man, watched this one all the way through for the algorithm ❤
Damn thanks didn't expect that lol, apologies for being a bit OTT. Glad you enjoy the videos :)
In Lebanon this laptop would cost $300
Good eBay sellers that go beyond are great on the used market.
Great video, except in my country, the x260 with core i5 and 8gb ram already cost 100$ :(
Normal prices for X260's go for £60-70. I got quite lucky with this one..
@@cephacore yeah. For 45$, I’m only able to buy the x240 with a smashed screen
$100? In my country (ID) this laptop with this specs sold for $170. For $100 you got Core i3 with only 8 GB of ram.
Did you forget to put thermal pase on the gpu die?
Haha yes I did, probably cut that bit out 😂
people still sell that model of thinkpad in my country for around 200-300usb😂
That's mental, it would've been around that price here in 2019.
Hi Im looking to buy a thinkpad for work and school
I have looked at the t480 and t480s
What should I ask while purshaing a Thinkpad?
Do you want better battery life? Get a T480, includes an external and internal battery. Can be swapped for other external batteries you may have. If you want something lighter, and less bulky get the T480S but it honestly doesn't make much difference. Get the T480, it's great.
@@cephacore Thank U is there anything special I should look at while buying ?
What is the battery time on those (browsing/watching videos)?
They seem to have all the power i would require of a secondary laptop, the only question is how long does the battery last.
And yeah windows is definitely a good thing. Not that i hate linux.. but it´s rather inconvenient and (at least one my previous laptops) recuded the time running on battery power by roughly 40 mins to a full hour. (windows seems to have much better power management, or at least the drivers enable it to run more efficient, not sure what it is)
I've been using it for a couple of days so I'll give a few details. Normal usage (web browsing/watching videos), around 4-5 hrs at 75% brightness. You can buy a bigger 48/72whr battery for it, which will probably give it an extra few hours. A really good laptop for battery life given it's age
@@cephacore thanks, sound like I will order one. Perfect for my needs.
Wow, where did you buy it at??
Bought on eBay UK. Seller: kelsusit
@@cephacore Awesome thank you!
Is this model's casing still made out of carbon fibre, like the older X-models?
According to X260 PSREF, it's 'Glass-Fiber Reinforced Plastic'
psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X260/ThinkPad_X260_Spec.PDF
I hate it when poeple talk trash about TN panels. Most corporate laptops probably has cheap TN panels that were meant for office work. High-end older workstation THinkpads had good TN panels that were designed for work like CAD. And TN panels generally have better motion clarity than IPS. IPS probably has better colors. But some cheap IPS has awful ghosting due to low refresh rate. Low end TN panels are perfectly good enough for word processing and Excel work and web browsing. My daily driver has a decent TN with HD+ resolution, and it is perfectly good for me. But it is not good enough for photography-type tasks.
True, TN do have their positives. That's why many gaming monitors originally came with TN, since there's less ghosting.
$200 minimum (for the lowest spec model) in canada unfortunately :(
Yeah it really is region dependan. Around summer, the used market is filled with older ThinkPad's which are sold for dirt cheap.
ahh yes most linux users laptop type (thinkpad)
Sorry i would not want to trade my 2012 Dell E6430. Sure mine is not a thin and light, but i only use it at home on my desk anyway. And the i7-3740QM although being years older make the i7 title of the 6600U look like a sick joke from Intel. (The i73740QM is 3 years older then the i7-6600U but the 6600U is 40% slower). Also you can guess the E6430 second hand is even cheaper because price is not related to speed but to age, which i think is funny. Mine came equipped with 16Gb memory and a small 240Gb Samsung SSD.
Gotta think about the price I got it for, and it's intended use. The X260 is for a completely different market. The U series CPUs prioritize battery life over performance. So yes it'll be slower than a workstation CPU. I agree with your take on 6th Gen intel cpus, they could've been a lot better, 8th Gen saw massive improvements.
lol i am using a rog strix g15 with gtx1650 and ryzen 7 4800h and it runs out of battery faster than old laptops =))
gaming laptop's use way more power and less efficient CPUs. I assume the Strix has a 144hz screen which will take more power.
@@cephacore ye
50GBP you practically stole this thing.
Yep it's a crazy find 😂
cannot be upgraded to Win 11, the CPU is too old. I'm in the USA
It can be though. There's an easy workaround
there are ways around it. using patchers or using wintoUSB and installing windows directly on the drive, then installing it in your laptop.
Oh sodd off! No way this thing is 50£ in the UK and 230€+ over here.
Damn that's a big difference. I've heard it's cheaper just to buy from eBay UK and get it delivered overseas.
@@cephacore I'll certainly have a look at it. But with Brexit, I'm sure the difference would be swallowed somewhere over the Channel.
i dont understand. you got the laptop for the cost of a ssd and got another ssd for free ? how does this math works ?🤔
the ssd was faulty so I got a replacement for free. so yes, excellent deal excellent customer service.
I've bought those same SSDs. I bought four and one was a dud, got a free replacement. They cost about $6 USD each.
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