Korean Air Lines Flight 007 - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2017
- This short film looks at the events of September 1st 1983 where a fully loaded passenger plane with 169 passengers and crew on board was shot down my a Soviet Russian Fighter Jet.
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It's also worth noting that a few weeks later, a Soviet early-warning system reported a launch of multiple ICBMs approaching the country (that's how bad tensions were getting between both sides following the shootdown). If it wasn't for Stanislav Petrov realising it was a computer glitch, it could have been all-out war.
The same thing happened twice to the Americans
I really can't understand who happened or what was going on inside the Soviet defense system, and the sharp contrast with the shot down of a U-2 in 1960 and the U-2 shot down over Cuba only 2 years later because Soviet forces were really able to face an intruder that breaks through his defending airspace, but here the Kal 007 had already overflow the Kamchatka peninsula and it was to left the Soviet airspace for second time when the su-15/21 finally shot it down, in a real Soviet Air Force fiasco and things didn't finished there, on the top of this only one or two years later Mathias Rust would land at the Red Square, in the heart of the Soviet Union and apparently there's no connection between the KAL 007 flight and Mathias Rust raid, but it exposes the unreliability of the Soviet defense system; both them symptoms of the Soviet debacle of the last days of the Soviet Union
I remember both this flight disaster and how close we all came to Armageddon. I was 23 at the time and I was horrified! I lived through so much of this cold war...the Cuban missile crisis included. What a horrible thing to have happened! In American.
& no wonder : look up
the sov big boss at the time.
Petropavlovsk is not just another Russian navy base, it's THE base for the Soviet Pacific SSBN fleet, a highly strategic location.
Yes and the entire Kamchatka peninsula was a restricted area because of its strategic value.
If a Soviet or other Eastern Bloc passenger plane had flown close to Norfolk Station (the equivalent of Petropavlovsk) during the time there would have been a great chance that they would have been shot down too.
the redsky that shot down the plan is a stuborn pos
@@Ozymandias1 It's highly highly unlikely the U.S. would shoot down ANY plane thought to be a spy plane. The U.S. won't even shoot down a balloon until it leaves U.S. airspace.
@@Ozymandias1 that's right... it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the west, should they have faced similar circumstances, would have also shot down an airliner from an enemy country. Hell, after Iran Air 655, we don't even need to assume -- we already know
I like the way you explain everything rather than just writing it down for us to read. Great channel, thanks
Yeah except he got this totally wrong. Russian pilot new it was a passenger plane and still shot it down. I am unsubscribing from this channel than cannot get basic facts right !
@@utubecorporatetroll Anthony’s commentary is “... the Russian pilot cannot SAY that it is civilian plane”, therefore implying that the pilot MAY have known all along. I think Anthony does a really good job alluding to the probability that the pilot would’ve known,
See 4:39
@nacer djsafri - I totally agree, the other channels are hopeless when they only provide text on screen along with their videos.
Yea thats what a video is for.
This flight is a perfect example of how civilians will always be the main victims of wars and political tensions will always be civilians. The saddest part is the crash didn't happen instantly and the stayed in the air for several minutes, passengers probably would have had no idea what to make of the situation before everything ended
Our family friend’s new wife and newborn were on that flight. What a tragedy.
My friend Christian Carasco was on this flight he was only 14 years old....
So sad... rip
My best friend's dad was also. She was a newborn when she lost him.
Im sorry
@@goodhumourwagon I'm sorry
Sorry to hear
Wish Osipovich would admit that he shot a civilian plane a that he killed 269 people by accident.
Ruben Thomas, it will never happen, because Osipovich firstly was executing the commands. Secondly, he is no longer alive.
I'm not sure if this is a right answer and I'm not a professional analyst or anything. I think that the Major would have come to know the truth of the plane he shot down, but its difficult to admit that he killed so many innocents even if it was a honest mistake. I think he tells himself he did his duty to his country so he could live with his actions
James Sempy they passed 2 military bases, as well as the plane tried to contact the crew via physical presence and radio. We will never know the truth, but I highly doubt that downing of 007 was a coincidence, too many mistakes by the crew that had 20+ years of experience
@@avgVar LOL you think the KAL pilots intentionally got themselves shot down?! Holy conspiracy Batman.
Doesn’t failure to change the autopilots nav mode make a TINY bit more sense, as it explains literally everything that happened that night?
@@user-io6tq4ok2r when did he die
Imagine if this had been the other way around, and the Koreans had shot down a Soviet civilian plane
There would be fewer alcoholics in the world.
Disconn3cted true, since USSR would’ve nuke the fuck out of Korea
Korea= One huge glass parking lot slowly curving toward the center.
@@geronimotudor3386 Uh, English isn't really my language, what does that mean?
@@AcogR4C Think Nuclear explosion over sand- turns to glass...
This is one of the most heartbreaking incidents in aviation history 😢
Советы получают то, что хотят. Я имею в виду, что это их страна, в конце концов. Но тогда страна не допускала иностранных самолетов в их воздушное пространство, иначе они будут сбиты. То же самое для стран сейчас.
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@@juliemanarin4127 Russians have pea brains and they are trigger happy with a paranoid victim mentality, they cant make any good decisions.
@@juliemanarin4127 Look closely before you fly above highly restricted airspace, where you have NO right to be. Fly over the white house or area 51 and tell me how good it goes for you.
You're telling me the Russian pilot couldn't identify a 747?
He could but his Soviet masters ordered him to murder.
In the dark, it is very difficult to identify planes. Also, without being able to see the livery, he had no indication that it was an airliner.
Next time a plane flies overhead on a dark night, see if you can identify it.
@@RoadRunnerLaser -- He =SAID= he could tell it was a 747.
chances are they thought it was a military spy variant or something. it said they couldn't see the livery or anything. that said, they could've easily confirmed what it was if they really wanted - they probably just wanted to shoot it down before it left their airspace. the americans did something just as egregious once - they shot down an iranian 747. look up iran air flight 655 if you don't know about it! militaries are trigger happy morons sometimes, regardless of the country.
I'm sure you've done lots of night flying in a military jet and know exactly how easy or difficult it is to identify different airplanes. Riiiiiight!
One intresting fact: pilot could use the gun loaded with tracer rounds to warn the “invaders”.
Osipovich fired the whole ammo of his gun, but they were loaded with only invisible armor piercing rounds.
Actually, in Soviet Air Force it was a rule to load the one fourth or one fifth of the ammo with tracers. But politics and generals said that Su-15 should had stayed undetected by the enemies. Sad, but true.
Also, Osipovich noticed the lights from passengers’ windows and understood that it was an airliner, but thought it was reequipped as a spy plane for disguise. He did not manage to talk with Korean pilots through international frequencies, but also did not state this fact to the Soviet commanders on ground.
He really had no reason to state anything to anyone. They were in HIGHLY restricted airspace and unfortunately when you put yourself into that situation things can get ugly. They had no right to be there.
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THATS WHAT I THOUGHT AHAH
Flight of the Pigeon
Underrated channel, already subbed. Great video👍👍
Great job on this bro, awesome narration.
One of the dead was an American Congressman who was on one of the defense committees, adding to the intrigue. Without looking it up, I believe his name was McDonald or MacDonald and he was from a Western state like Idaho. Really hard to pretend it wasn't shot down when a U.S. congressman was one of the passengers. (EDIT: Got the name right but he was a Democrat from Georgia. Oddly, McDonald had two chances to be on a different flight but declined them. He was supposed to attend a meeting celebrating U.S. - South Korea military partnerships.)
Probably don’t number your flight 007 and fly it over strategic Russian military bases at night during the height of the Cold War. Lambs to the slaughter. This is just a very sad story for all involved.
Larry McDonald have an interview 3 days prior to the flight where he strongly opposed “the elite group in the USA that is slowly pushing society to the left” towards communism and how he was so against it. 3 days later a communist country shoots down his flight…. Accidentally…
This is a very informative video. Good work
To be fair, the pilot who shot down the plane did admit that he knew he shot down a civilian airliner after the collapse of USSR, and seems to be riddled with the heavy guilt that he killed hundreds of civilians with his own hands. I'm not sure where but there even had to be an interview or something with him too.
No, he still believes he shot down a spy plane, and tbh, I don't blame him
I watched an interview of him after the collapse of the USSR and he still believes he shot down a spy plane and expressed no remorse.
@@clover5172 he should realize that his totalitarian hive mind of the ussr was an empire of lies and should be glad that it collapsed
These videos are great guys! Keep them up! 👍🏼
The movie "Tailspin", holds the theory that the airliner pilot didn't wait for the INS to complete its startup sequence, the plane took off prematurely. Errors piled up, by the time they were told they were off course they were entering Soviet air space. It was a pilot error according to that theory.
That seems like the most plausible cause to me
The fault still lies with the Soviet who shot down the plane.
@@ItsLunaRegina I mean yeah somewhat, but I’d also say a pilot operating out of 1980s Asia should’ve known damn well to make sure they avoid Soviet airspace, like that’s one thing you absolutely shouldn’t take for granted
least likely
@@A1Kira Cry more babe, you're the one so mad you comment on an ancient post lmao.
Your recreations and research are amazing, I love how you go into detail explaining the features and dynamics of the planes and systems.
could go more in depth honestly
Awesome breakdown and amazing depictions!! Also straight to the point’ thank you for the quality educational videos!
Thank you very much for your work, I like your videos.
How can someone live with their self after kill hundreds of people for almost no reason
You just deny it.
Because its easier to say you are defending your country, he believed he shot down a military aircraft, America isn't innocent of this, They shot down a middle eastern passenger jet via warship during a similar time, thinking they downed a warplane. It is sad and tragic during a time of coldwar hysteria, the soviets felt it just as much as Americans.
Russians - by sting sums up the feeling at the time.
Vodka. Lots of vodka.
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Flight of the Pigeon from BF1!! I love that track! So peaceful.
007 was a very unfortunate flight #. A very unlucky incident and a tragic one for the innocent passengers and crew of that flight.
You make great videos. Very informative and good qaulity. Hope you continue to make these videos!
My favourite channel on RUclips
KAL 007 was the flight that my parents used to take en route to Bangkok. Needless to say, the event let them feeing uneasy.
so what you're saying is that a "Soviet radar station can pick up a plane but the pilots have to manually contact the crew of the tower because their 02:40 min "radars will only go so far out over the ocean"?.. that makes sense. You said the INS was not turned on.. is this normal procedure?
INS was 'on' but apparently not 'engaged' because of the early operator errors.
ive heard this story from the other side while living at Chayvo on Sakhalin. Sometimes things get lost in translation so perhaps that was the case but ive always had this uneasy feeling about the whole storyline.
Larry McDonald American Politician.... ON BOARD!!!!
6:15 that's even worse. If you think about it, 1 huge explosion would be at least a quick end. But to think that their last moments had to be a living hell is very disturbing.
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏼
I heard or read somewhere that the Soviet pilot Gennady Osipovich fired tracer rounds to try to warn the Korean flight crew but the rounds went underneath the 747 and were presumably not seen or acknowledged in any way.
There was an interview with the fighter pilot, and he stated this himself.
The SU15 TM Flagon F .. which was this particular version of the aircraft that did this intercept doesn't have an internal gun fitted..but has provisions for a gun pod to be fitted to the pylons...no mention has been made of a pod being fitted to this actual aircraft.
One question - what would’ve happened if the shootdown hadn’t happened, considering it was a long way off course?
then the North Koreans may have shot it down since the flight path would've gone over the DPRK... though, the pilots would have definitely found out something was off about their flight once daylight would begin...
Just saying that those navigation lights exist on military planes too. On top of that, at the time, the Korean plane plane likely don’t have interior lights on, and also US do have a military version of 747 called E-4, but that is a Airborne command post. At the time USAF also have a 707 Spy plane in the region… so it was really hard decision to make wether or not to shoot.
In the ends, not only the Korean Air lines plane climbed, it also have left Soviet Airspace for a little bit (when crossing onto international waters) before renter Soviet airspace… lead to the Soviet command gave the order.
When I was a kid we had a Time/Life magazine edition that featured this incident. It was my 1st introduction to this type of disaster & it freaked me out. How unfortunate it was, a series of coincidences. I must say though-in THAT time period, if you’re Korean Airlines & it’s pilots-you simply CAN’T make that mistake.
Imagine the kind of denial the fighter pilot lives in
Just like usa navy
none at all.
RIP
To the passengers and crew of Korean Air Lines Flight 007
What is this happened during the day or early evening
Night time, so it was pretty dark
Gorby must've realised how bad this was when he took over from deadites like Chernenko hence his early reach outs to the West.
Couldn’t see the lettering of the plane but how about the 50 windows that are lit up on it, never seen a spy plane that had so many windows on it
The windows may not have been lit up. Often on long haul at night the cabin lights are turned right down, so passengers can get some sleep, and the window shutters might be pulled down as well.
@@Al-ih1en what if there was a camera underneath the plane? how would you know? it had happened before with commerical ailines flying over countries and spying using civilian aircraft, which is a very scummy thing to do. And even if the aircraft was already out of the zone, of the terrirtory it is jusitifed to shoot it down because the plane could already have gathered valuable information, and it must be destroyed before it can be trassfered, its like saying, i cant chase a thief, because he is outside of my protperty even though he stole things.
How many spy planes have you seen?
The E4-B is a military version of the 747 that had been in service for almost a decade at the time of this incident and it has plenty of windows on it.
One question -why the airplane tail sign was not illuminated ? It could solve the problem
Do you think. the Soviets would assume that nobody could paint a fake tail sign on an RC-135 or E-4?
2:32 hello! my name is...
Apparently .. in the area was a US "Rivet" 707 spy aircraft doing a racetrack pattern ..well away from Soviet airspace but had been noticed by the Soviets... tragically ..this 747 passed over the 707's racetrack pattern .. so to the Soviets it looked like the 707 had stopped doing circular flight patterns and was coming right at them ..... Two big 4 engined aircraft..the 707 departed away .... but the 747 carried on.. hence the Soviets thinking this was the same plane.
I'm sorry but the irony of a flight number 007 being identified as a spy plane just made me laugh...
omg that’s hilarious-not.
Austin Powers? JK James Bond
Korean Air Flight 007, also known as KAL 007, was a tragic incident that occurred on September 1, 1983. The flight was a scheduled passenger route from New York City to Seoul, South Korea, with a stopover in Anchorage, Alaska.
During the flight, the Boeing 747 aircraft deviated from its intended flight path and entered Soviet airspace over the Kamchatka Peninsula. This deviation raised concerns for the Soviet Air Defense Forces, who dispatched interceptor aircraft to intercept and identify the intruder.
Despite attempts by the Soviet pilots to communicate with the plane, there was no response from KAL 007. Tragically, the Soviet interceptor aircraft fired air-to-air missiles at the airliner, leading to its destruction and the loss of all 269 passengers and crew members on board.
The incident caused international outrage and sparked diplomatic tensions between the United States and the Soviet Union, which were already strained during the Cold War era. The shooting down of an innocent civilian aircraft was seen as a significant escalation of tensions.
Investigations and inquiries were conducted to determine the causes and circumstances surrounding the tragedy. The event prompted improvements in international aviation regulations, including the implementation of better communication and tracking systems to prevent similar incidents in the future.
Korean Air Flight 007 remains a somber reminder of the importance of safety, accurate communication, and adherence to established flight paths to prevent such devastating accidents. My arms Are Hurting So bad Right Now.
Yeaaaaa.... Thank god for GPS nowadays so we don't accidentally fly into the Soviet equivalent of Area 53
Why did they think anybody would be trying to spy with a 747? It is a rather large and loud plane and there were several others out there to use for spying rather than the whale of the sky.
Wouldn’t that be a good disguise? Seriously that’s the least problem with the decision to shoot it down
Possibly for the same reasons that one of the best ways to break into a lot of places is to put overalls/a reflective jacket and hardhat on, grab a clipboard, and just walk in the front gate. Highly visible things that have a reasonable explanation for being in a place often raise far less suspicion than things you actively try to hide.
Honestly as soon as the plane flew over military installations the Russians didn't have a lot of good options from their point of view. If the plane was military then they needed to shoot it down as it had already taken images, if the plane was civilian it could still be carrying military surveillance equipment, and if it wasn't either of those letting it pass could give someone in US military intelligence ideas. Because if you don't shoot down the first passenger plane to 'accidentally' overfly your top secret military base, will you shoot down the second? The third?
I think it’s because the Soviets themselves use civilian aircraft to spy on others.
Best disguise ever
@@Ellie-rx3jt bingo. these snowflakes in here crying about the USSR should turn their ire towards the pilots who negligently flew into restricted air space. Its like flying over area 51 or the white house and then crying cause they shot them down lol.
Why do you sound less Irish in your earlier videos?
I haven't heard about this disaster either. The only thing that bothers me is the high pitched music while you were talking about what happened to Korean Air. It may be an autistic thing, I don't know. Just the high pitched parts were not easy for me to listen to.
How many warning shoots Enola G fired?Hmm...0 mayby...
I remember we had the WADS on our highest alert
The irony of the aircraft's designation being KAL *007* was not lost on me in 1983, I'd watched James Bond films then.
Isn't it ironic that the flight number is also the number of arguably the most famous spy in popular culture?
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As a Korean this makes me sad
There is exactly zero chance the scrambling fighter pilot wasn't able to view directly into the plane and see passengers. Either he was given the command to shoot from distance (likely) or he actually reach the plane saw what it was and shot it was shot down anyway (less likely).
There is not zero chance. He made one attempt to pull alongside, and that happened to be when the plane changed altitude, so he considered it an evasive maneuver.
That's reflected in both the Soviet recording of the incident and the US intelligence data of the incident. within 24 hours the US had concluded that the Russians had genuinely believed it was a spy plane, and that neither plane was in communication with the other.
The Soviet pilot thought he was being ignored, so regardless of what the plane looked like, he was making judgements based on how the crew reacted to his 'warning shots' (which were practically useless as he was loaded with armor piercing shells without any not tracer shells) .
The music must be mentioned. It’s tremendously affecting and makes the tragic retelling unfold in a way that pierces the heart, preparing it for the inevitable sorrow to come.
Do Swiss air flight 111
Experienced fighter pilot:
Cant identify one of the worlds largest airliners.
someone enlightened me on the 1st soundtrack?
@Gaming ZONE GAZO Thank You
How could the Soviet pilot live with himself if he wasn't in denial?
Just like usa navy who shoot down a civilian plane
Because he did nothing wrong? They were flying in highly restricted air space over a Soviet military site. For all they knew a bomb could've been dropped. I blame the negligent pilots for flying where they don't belong. Go fly over area 51 or the white house and see how that turns out for you bud.
@@A1Kira why would they use a slow and sluggish 747 for military operations? An actual bomb dropping plane would be something like a b-52, which is fast and agile despite its large size
@@Samsonschizovsky76 It was nighttime and the Korean Airlines flight was shrouded in darkness, not too hard to understand why the Soviets couldn't identify the plane. Especially while it avoided contact despite repeated attempts at communication.
@@Samsonschizovsky76 Also its irrelevant what plane it was, it shouldn't have been there.
The music is sooooooo loud
The final report came in 1993 concluded that accident is caused by magnetic heading error
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The plane wasnt fully loaded it had more than 80 empty seats
Russian pilots are that inept to identify targets positively at night? Sounds like typical Russian behavior though.
I can't tell from experience obviously, but if I found myself in a situation where I took down a plane in my country's restricted airspace and found out it was a passenger plane that accidentaly found themselves there, and I was ordered to down it and kill them all, I certainly don't think I'd wanna live another 2 weeks...
Well that's you. The pilot has nothing to feel sorry for, in fact its the pilots who flew into restricted air space that should shoulder the shame if they were alive.
This was premeditated mass murder.
How often do commercial pilots look out back to the side to watch for other aircraft? Never
Did the Soviets warn them on the *Air Emergency Frequency? NO!*
Did the Soviets use *visible tracer* warning shots? *NO!*
The aircraft had already passed through Soviet airspace at an earlier point. The Soviets had plenty of time to make this decision. The decision to murder the passengers was made when (and I quote them) *they were afraid the aircraft was about to leave Soviet airspace, in which case they could no longer shoot it down and call it an accident.*
After intentionally murdering civilians on an airliner, *the Soviets found and destroyed the wreckage.* If it was a spy plane, as they claimed, they could easily have brought up evidence, but they didn't.
@@radokmet4618 You know it was a mostly Korean plane right? With mostly Korean passengers.
See, the problem here is the simple question of why? Why would the soviets knowingly do that? What was there to gain in shooting down a civilian airliner?
@@nisseheim4996 It's baffling, they had nothing to gain, and would in fact risk starting a war. This is what leads me to believe that their actions that night were out of gross incompetence rather than malice.
andromedastar it was both probably
@@andromedastar4900 incompetence? No incompetence on the USSR's part, plenty on the Korean pilots side. That's like flying over area 51 or the white house and then crying about it being shot down lol.
Also, why wouldn't they simply announce on the radio that they were Korean Air? BTW what about their radar code? Couldn't the Soviets see it?
They saw the windows of the passenger jet, but still decided to kill innocents
@@Samsonschizovsky76 It perfectly sums up the ussr
Stupid world we live on.
adipose-leonid croaked just a year earlier(October 1982)
They could’ve just warn KAL007 that they are on restricted airspace
I believe the full story is that they tried to, but the pilots were on a different frequency and couldn't hear the warnings. I think they should have just flown beside the cockpit and shot tracers ahead of the plane to guarantee the pilots would see the warning rather than below and off to the side where the 747 cockpit has no visibility.
Sorry I didn’t hear the next part where they said it also they were chatting while they shot warning
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I read that his plane had no tracers due to soviet tactics for night fighting.
Also when Gorbachev was "elected" president of the USSR, he gave the West the flight recorders to the International Aviation Committee, ten year later.
No seriously what where the pilots real names
After some research, the soviets tried to use an emergency frequency that wasn't listened to on the plane to communicate.
Why didn't they try others? Did they knew those ones used by the koreans? Why did the Korean radio not be tuned in to emergency broadcasts?
how would they know what countries frequency to tune into if they didnt know what country the plane belonged to, she even said the russian pilots couldnt make out the livery on the plane. so they wouldnt have thought to tune into korean frequency as they both didnt know the plane was korean and it was off course and not facing korea itself.
Ronald Regan decreed after flight 007 that S.U. military sat-nav technology should be released for the world to use. Hence today we all have Sat-navs.
Sick !
It was so stupid of the pilot and ATC to not attempt to make contact with the aircraft, or the airliner pilots to realize they're flying over land when they weren't supposed to... This is the most preventable air disaster in history
All blame lands on the negligent pilots who flew over highly restricted airspace.
Did they use that plane as target practice?
Or intentionally and the U.S. or CIA/FBI let it happen. One of the passengers of KAL 007 was Lawrence Patton McDonald. He was a congressman from Georgia and months before he died, he was in an interview talking about the new world order
Not the first time someone notable was killed along with everyone else on a plane. A 9/11 truther/activist was given a plane ticket by Barak Obama and later the plane crashed into a neighborhood. It was a Continental or some other United Airlines regional airline
@@fritzyboi6390 yeah yeah you probably deny the holodomor
@@Samsonschizovsky76 the holodomor did happen dude, the other though did not
@@fritzyboi6390 but the soviets committed war crimes for decades(America also does)
That totally sucks but when I made the trek to Japan from Toronto in 2019, I did fly over the same path like 007 did on Air Canada. However, that was eons ago when i was 2. Here is something else that I got to say. During that flight, someone almost clog the toilet and the captain told us that we need to be careful otherwise we have to go to a different destination. I was thinking, a free trip to Russia?
Damn you could have just fired warning tracer rounds or warned the pilots saying they were in restricted zone.
Bút what they do , launch an entire shit load they had!
Yes, they botched the warning contact procedures [after they botched the identification procedures] but the plane was exiting Soviet airspace and getting away -- so, kill them all.
Here is the chapter from one of my books, on Soviet Air Force attacks on foreign aircraft along the border.
Вот глава одной из моих книг о нападениях советских ВВС на иностранные самолеты вдоль границы.
www.jamesoberg.com/border.html
Korean airlines flight 007
Wait why did he still think it was a us military plane? Might've missed something
because it overflew a dozen top secret Soviet bases, shortly after an RC-135 spy plane had been buzzing the Soviet border, and because when the Soviet pilot accelerated to pull alongside, the Korean Airliner climbed to a higher altitude and slowed, so he overshot it. The Soviets saw this as an evasive move, when in fact the Korean Pilot wasn't aware the Mig was there and was just changing altitude for operational reasons.
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Isn't it that the tail should be illuminated even during flight? How come the flight pilot missed that?
Firstly, that is no guarantee of anything. Multiple countries have disguised their aircraft in various ways to fool the military of another country, so he's not going to automatically trust it to be civilian just cos it looks civilian. He's going to make up his mind by whether the aircrew responds like he expects a civilian aircrew to respond.
To his mind, he fired warning shots, and flashed lights and the aircraft's only "response" was to climb away from him. As it turns out this was probably not a response and the aircrew didn't know he was there, and climbed to a higher altitude because of better winds and fuel savings.
Now, due to incompetence, he didn't take into account that his warning shots are armor piercing, not tracer rounds, so only the muzzle flash would be visible. Bright to him cos it's close to him, but not necessarily visible to someone in the cockpit of the plane in front of him. It seems he also didn't tell his ground commander that he wasn't firing tracer rounds, so they might have assumed that he had, and been further alarmed that any aircraft would ignore such a serious signal.
Also, he assumed that his ground commanders had made radio contact with the aircraft, which it seems they had not managed to do.
So, in the paranoia of the Cold War and the context that this was possibly a spy plane collecting data to better target their bases, his mission was to prevent it taking that data back to base, so when he got the order to shoot, he did not hesitate. He was of course wrong, but in his mind, what he was shooting at was a spy plane.
Despite the bluster of the politiicans, the intelligience agency actually knew within 24 hours that the Soviets had made an error of judgement, rather than a deliberate act of murdering civilians.
Reagan said that you couldn't mistake a 747 for a military plane because nothing else looks like a 747... ignoring the fact that since 1973 they'd been using the E4-B which is a military version of the 747 as a flying command and control centre.
Also, the RC-135 from behind and below looks similar to a 747 from behind and below... and in the dark, and there had been a USAF RC-135 in the area spying on the Soviets shortly before KAL crossed the Kamchatka penninsula.
KAL wasn't just in the wrong place at the wrong time, it flew over a bunch of heavily armed paranoid Soviets who were being constantly provoked by heavily armed and paranoid Americans flying just off the coast of Russia.
the most important question is: why the pilot entered the soviet airspace?? what are you doing there in highest tension betwen superpowers??
If you watched the video your question would’ve been answered...
@@spongebubatz even so the onus is on the violating pilots.
Hus here coz u saw this from tiktok?
Should have stuck to the one safe airway which travels right over the Capital and Pentagon.
yeah but... they ignored the airspace restriction
@@anachronist420 but if some random plane went into our airspace we would shoot them down ahem Iran air 655 ahem
@@anachronist420 Yes it does actually
@@DAIadvisor no it doesn’t. The plane wasn’t flying over any military bases
@@Samsonschizovsky76 yes it did, it flew over the main naval base of the USSR at the time. They had no right to be where they were, that's why they were shot down.
@@anachronist420 Actually it does. Fly over area 51 or the white house and see how that goes for you.
Both sides are in the wrong
Korean KAL also have a "mistake" when they flew from Paris to Seoul in 1962. Well again by "mistake" they flew over Soviet Military Objects in Karelia !
Was shot down but manage to land on lake ice. Was Boeing 707. Only 2 People died...
"by mistake" flying over soviet military objects :D
That pilot should watch this documentary
Act of barbarism from Soviet....
why the hell are there so many people around who can't say fucking NUCLEAR properly...NUUUU CLEEEAR. This isn't one of those words that has several accepted pronunciations. IT JUST HAS ONE.....NUUUUCLEEEEAR...WHAT THE FUCK IS NUCULAR? Fucking hell...
Captain Sum Ting Wong and F/O Wi Tu Lo
And flight engineer Ho Lee Fuk
well, it was a US plane, not a spy one
Who the fuck would use a jumbo jet as a spy plane?
Someone who might think it’s a good disguise
have you heard of an E4-B ? It's an airborne mobile command centre built into a Beoing 747, and they'd been in service for almost a decade prior to this incident.
The RC-135 that they were using as a spy plane that night was more suitable in your opinion because it was based on a B707 instead of a B747?
The CIA.
I thought NINO worked Nina restaurant starring on Hell’s Kitchen. He even has a waypoint named after him. Well done 👍 😛
Nino would have taken photos of him shooting down that plane.
So tragic. The Americans also shut down an Iranian passenger plane in 1988 killing 290 ppl (66 children) and 16 crew members.
You do realize that time period wise this happened literally a year earlier (in 1988) and that this act of american aggression, accident or not, helped caused tensions to boil,this combined with already tense conditions in the area at the time caused the first gulf war. Which was between the USA and Iraq. Who backed Iraq and supplied them with weapons and military vehicles. Russia. Both were technically accidents. In the case of the Iranian jet, the transponder gave the US battleship the indication is was an enemy fighter jet, instead of a commercial aircraft due to either a malfunction in the tracking system used by the ship or the actual transponder in the plane (it is disputed). The person who fired the shot also could not tell that it wasn't a military aircraft, like the Russian pilot, due to this radar error. He isn't deflecting anything, these are actual facts and both sides had errors that caused the deaths and caused harm to civilians. Neither side is innocent. In-fact the crash of this flight (Iran Air flight 655) may have had more implications and a bigger impact than the crash of Korean Air flight 007. If you are interested in learning more, I suggest reading this article to begin with and then if wish to continue, source your own articles and information.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Lol, these two are not comparable because the US shoot down a civilian Airplane in INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE, while the soviets defended THEIR AIRSPACE. Are both terrible, a waste of live and maybe could have been avoided? yes to all of them, but to say the soviets acted out of agression while the US was an accident is total BS.
@@billy5179 both incidents are mass murder. Soviet communist crimes and American capitalist crimes
@@Samsonschizovsky76 Absolutly true.