Decades From Disaster (China Airlines Flight 611) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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Previously on this channel on two occasions, we have made reference to the air accident of China Airlines Flight 611. Occurring on May 25th, 2002. It is time that we dedicate a whole video to this accident. The disaster itself occurred in a single moment. When investigators analyzed the flight data and cockpit voice recordings, the flight seemed to be nothing out of the ordinary. A very routine flight, on a very unexemplary day. But to understand where the problem that brought this plane down came from, we need to head back in time, looking at the accident plane’s history and even analyzing the events of one evening many years before the notable accident.
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You should use the clips from air crash investigation pls
@@nicoins1598 That would just copy Alec Joshua Ibay
Happy birthday 🥳
Happy birthday mate
Happy Birthday!
It is amazing how strong and durable the 747 is that it withstood such a long time with such poor maintenance.
They're tough alright, China Airlines 006 pulled a full five gees, permanently bending the wings up 5cm and they landed it, Boeing used to build great planes before the McDonald Douglass guys made it all about stock value and cut corners :(
Yeah 22 years is an incredibly long time. 747 is a freakin tank.
The repair did something but not a repair that would prevent disaster for the aircraft’s lifespan
@@GeoffInfield That merger was another kind of disaster, quality aircraft doomed. A friend said they gave the sky to Airbus. Never heard about the 5G incident, thanks for posting.
@@angelachouinard4581 not really, Boeing will likely surpass airbus in sales again when a new line of planes comes out. It would honestly be embarrassing if the A series wasn’t incrementally better considering the designs are far newer.
What’s a real disaster is Comac in China. Apparently they’re too inept to make a modernized MD90 airworthy 😂
It's quite frankly a miracle that the aircraft lasted 22 years with that shoddy repair.
Wouldn’t call it a repair for me since the damage was not dealt with and was just covered up
The 747 was a durable plane. Pity it's being retired.
The 747 is an incredibly tough aircraft. Such a shame faulty maintenance was the problem.
the number of pressurization cycles on that aircraft, was huge, esp. after damage.
When highly skilled Engineers are paid less than a Pilot pays in Taxes ,, what do you expect
Retired accident investigator here. You are VERY good.
I smell CAP
This crash was a nation tragedy. I was around 1 when the crash occurred, I watched the aci episode when I was 3rd or 4th grade, after I grown up that I realized how this accident not only impacted Taiwan's aviation safety but politic situations between the strait.
Back in 1990's and early 2000's, Taiwanese government starts to let people travel to mainland China to visit Relatives that have been left behind after the China civil war. But back then, If Taiwanese people wants to enter Mainland China, they have to fly to Hong Kong first and take other flights into mainland due to political sanctions (no direct flights between mainland China and Taiwan). This crash changed everything and few years later, path for direct flights between mainland China and Taiwan finally opened. My dad, who worked in a semiconductor company around that time said that after the crash, most companies(especially those having branches in mainland China) were hesitant to send their employees on business trips to mainland China.
Right now I'm study aerospace engineering in college, and one of my professors was former 747 instructor pilot who worked for China airlines during this period, and one of his close colleagues passed away as one of the flight crews. RIP to those souls onboard flight 611.
wow, that’s fascinating thank you for commenting this i never knew of the complexities beyond the crash.
I remember this accident too; I was living in Taiwan and about 11 at the time.
China Airlines 611 and Singapore Airlines 006 were both national tragedies and changed aviation in the country.
Wow had no idea that this crash had such ramifications. Thanks for sharing a bit of history.
Thanks for writing this, it adds a lot to this video, I know about current China/Taiwan relations but not the history which I've always wondered about and thanks to you I'm finally going to look up! :)
fun fact??: this plane incident was originally thought to be caused by the same thing that brought down TWA Flight 800. then, 13 years later. Metrojet Flight 9268 was bombed over Egypt. and coincidentally that plane had a tailstrike as well. so they thought that had the same cause as this.
I'm a (relatively) longtime viewer and I think this may be one of your strongest deliveries yet. Your narration was excellent throughout, and despite having already learned of this incident, I found myself gripped by how strong the narrative of the video was. Excellent work this week as always, Chloe!
@@Roundholesinsquarepegs the person who has this channel. Chloe is awesome.
Also a fact at the time the 747-200B involved was the last and only remaining passenger 747-200 on china airlines fleet as the other 3 were converted into freighters . Flight 611 was originally supposed to be served with a 747-400 or A300-600 but was unavailable at the time and the only aircraft available is the 747-200B. It was planned after completing flight 611 the 747-200B would be retired from china airlines and sold/ delivered to orient Thai airways
And as of the 25th of July 2022, 20 years and two months to the day of the crash, China Airlines Flight 611 remains the most recent fatal accident, attack or incident to involve a passenger variant of a B747.
@@robertmcghintheorca49 How many passenger 747 are currently remaining in service?
@@sambhrantshekhar As of the 15th of November 2023, 56 Boeing B747s are left in passenger service. Most of which are in service with Lufthansa.
I flew China Airlines 4 times in 2001, including a flight from BKK to AMS on the 12th September.. the day after "9/11". As a then nervous flyer I cant say I was completely at ease, not because of 9/11 as I realised security would be top notch after such an event, but because of the airline's safety record. To think this happened the following year :(
There's so many incidents between mid 90s to early 2000s involving China airlines.
My friend’s friend was on this plane that day. My friend drove his friend to the airport and he will never see his friend again. Although the China airlines is better recently, we will never get on this airline in our lives.
Same. I will never fly this airline.
@@jasonbig1353is eva air better?
@@jirehla-ab1671It is one of the top airlines in this world, so yeah, they are pretty much better.
Yes that HK airport was notorious. The airport had to buy properties in the approach ways, and then sell them with deed restrictions, otherwise they would have had high rise buildings built in the approach way. My father flew in there a few times as passenger in the cockpit, and you were flying lower than the buildings, with people hanging washing above you as you were landing.
That sounds both incredibly awesome and completely terrifying.
Yep the exact same thing happened to Japan Airline flight 123.
Actually that flight lost it’s horizontal stabilizer. This flight lost it’s entire tail section.
@@n00blol think they mean sloppy repairs resulted in a plane crash with hundreds dead
@@n00blol yea it was due to a previous tail strike just like this one, I think that’s what mr rain meant
@@InNeedOfMoisturizer oh lol
But this one took long 22 years to happen.
This plane of China airlines lasted 22 but the JAL was 7 years, it disappeared after being disintegrated. However , JA8119 had improper bulkhead repair and the China Air Plane had it's damage covered up
It took the aviation industry 17 years and 2 747 crashes to check bulkhead repairs on every aircraft that has this design.
Different stories buddy
Different damage, different repairs, different mistakes.
@@farhanatashiga3721 and different airline
@@farhanatashiga3721 Yeah, but what he/she meant was both different flights/different 747’s/different stories/what ever it is, shared the same factors: tailstrike & shoddy repair done by the maintenance personnel.
I remember someone in a comment section saying that the accident plane (B-18255) was actually sold to Thai Oriental Airways and flight 611 would’ve been its last flight with China Airlines.
Edit: it said that China Airlines retired most of their 747-200s by 1999, so the accident plane was the one & only 747-200 that the airline operated once the others left the fleet. It stayed from 1999-2002.
This flight should be operated by a 747-400 on that fateful day, but due to some reasons, that 747-400 was moved to other flights, and B-18255 was pulled in as a substitute for flight 611. B-18255 was scheduled for a major inspection after this flight.
what's more interesting about this plane is its unusual economy class seats configuration, it only got 9 seats per row instead of 10 seats per row (3-4-2 instead of the normal 3-4-3)
POV:that is the comment above you
That flight was indeed B-18255s
last flight with CAL. Orient Thai was not thrilled when they heard about the crash.
I watched a documentary about this flight on the show called Mayday, it was pretty cool but I like your videos more because they're quicker and they get straight to the point
Happy Belated Birthday, Chloe! Well done on this video. I as looking forward to it for quite some time. With what a horrible job was done during the repair, it's baffling to me how: a) the plane lasted so long, and b) the maintenance crew got away with it for so long.
Belated Happy Birthday*. Your wishes are belated, not their birthday.
a tailstrike can cause so much.. scary
Unfortunately it didn't have to be with proper maintenance and repair.
20 years on and it still remains as the most recent 747 passenger crash.
Except its not
Almost as if crashes were rare or sth
@@cplcabs which one?
@@cplcabs What's not?
@@Bobman84 its not the most recent 747 crash
Happy Birthday and thank you for your hard work and dedication.
It's also worth mentioning Japan Air Lines Flight 123, which also crashed years after a tail strike. This was a Boeing 747SR which suffered a tail strike on landing in 1978, also repaired incorrectly (how badly they "fixed" it is stunning). 7 years later in 1985, this damage eventually led to the failure of the rear bulkhead and the sudden decompression of the cabin with large pieces of the tail breaking off. -All- 520 of the 524 people on board lost their lives that day.
There is already a very detailed and quite haunting video about Japan Airlines flight 123 on this channel. Check it out, it's a very good video
4 out of the 524 Survived
@@joaobaptista8377 You're right! Thanks for the correction, I'll edit my comment.
"The pilots received their last instructions from controllers at 15:16" and then I looked at my clock and it said the same thing. Coincidence freaked me out for a second XD
Happy belated birthday! Thank you for providing such quality videos for us every week!
That nicotine stain is quite an interesting detail and something you don't every really see
And surprisingly no one took note of it.
It’s a very weird detail to me because we do a pressurization test at every A check (300 or so flight hours) if it really was leaking cigarette smoke at a high enough rate to stain the airplane it definitely should have manifested as a leak every time it was tested. On the other hand I also work in a completely different time period where structural damage like that requires an expensive engineering repair scheme from the manufacturer, so who knows.
It could have been an instance when smoking saves lives
It was unfortunate that the crew could do nothing to stop the crack. I believe they would have felt like a normal flight and then, all of them getting either sucked out or incapacitated. Also happy belated birthday! 🎉
Happy birthday Chloe! Thank you for your hard work!
Fast becoming one of my favorite aviation channels 🙌🙌 Thank you for this well detailed overview of this disaster. And a belated happy birthday to you 🙏🥳
Belated Happy Birthday! And I’m always excited to see new content from you, no matter how long or short!
Another great video. Happy Birthday! 🎈🎂(Might be a little late but I always watch every video on your channel)
Happy birthday Chloe! Belated. Even though this one was shorter, it was very good. Thank you.
Happy happy birthday! :) I hope that it was a very special day for you. Thanks for your dedication, making this new video during your celebration time!
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY 🎂, & FOR THE PATREON SHOUT OUT!! Enjoyed the vid as always. 😉👍✌️
Happy Birthday Bro! Thanks for all your videos ^-^
Happy birthday! Thanks for making this video!
happy birthday! love your vids, i watch all of them :) keep up the good work!!
Fantastic analysis and commentary of such an avoidable tragedy. Belated happy birthday Chloe, thanks for all your hard work with your awesome channel 🎂👏👌
Happy birthday 🎂 great video as always, never heard about this one, thank you.
Happy birthday Chloe! 🎂 Great video as always, btw
Happy Birthday brotha. Love the content
Happy Birthday!! May this year bring You everything the last one forgot. Thank you for a awesome series.
Really great job mate - really appreciate you narrative style
Thank you Chloe for these amazing videos! I love the amazing content! Keep gong :D
Happy Birthday and thank you for all of the hard work that you do
Happy birthday Chloe! :) excellent video!
Happy belated birthday!! Love the content!
HB mate
Thansk for all the hard work on these videos
Happy birthday! Another great video!
happy birthday chloe! great video as always!!
and this is why you do your maintenance. happy belated birthday and great video, as always!
Happy birthday!! Love your content. You're great.
Excellent video and thanks to the patrons too. Happy Belated Birthday Disaster Breakdown!
Happy birthday and thank you for your work!
happy (belated) birthday! and a great video as always, it was interesting to hear more about this incident since it's come up in the past.
Thank you for another great video. My heart goes out to all who lost their lives in this tragedy and their loved ones.
Happy birthday! 🥳🎂 I hope you enjoy your day and have a great celebration.
Happy Birthday Chloe! and thank you for making the video of this sad incident on such a happy day for you. The original engineers are responsible for the tragedy, and they are the ones with blood on their hands!
happy (late) birthday DB!. loved the video.
Well, that’s terrifying. Great delivery Chloe!
Happy belated birthday. I wish you many more years because your videos are great.
Happy late birthday, Chloe!! 💛 I hope you were able to find some time to relax and enjoy yourself.
I was looking for tra video on this just a couple of days ago. There is very little info. And here you are, saving me from dispair.
22 years is an insane amount of time for that damage to remain with flights continuing and making it worse.
Happy Birthday!!! Love the vid, you rule.
Wow, 21 years later, 2023, it is still devastating to hear about this accident. Probably very unforgettable for the families about the incident. What a tragic thing to happen.
Happy belated birthday, Thanks for providing this content for us
Many happy returns Chloe!
Happy belated birthday Chloe. Hope you had a lovely day!
Happ birthday!!!! Another great video as always
I enjoy watching these channels because there is so much one learns from just going through comments.So many amazing minds.
Belated happy birthday and thank you for the excellent video
Your work always let me surprise 😍
Thanks for the informative video as usual, also, kudos on your pronounciations of the Chinese names!
Happy late birthday, Chloe..!!🎉❤
Belated happy birthday to you, and may you produce many more videos!
Happy Birthday Chloe!!
I really appreciate the professionalism of this channel
Thank you, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
Happy birthday Mr. Breakdown...Cheers!
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Happy belated birthday, Chloe!
The way you said the pilots names were flawless
No it wasn't 🤣🤣
It was totally wrong
They said the pilots' names correctly (if you ignore tones, which I don't expect most people to pick up on so no big deal), but not the flight engineer's. Still way better than a lot of YTers who completely butcher Chinese names though!
Excellent episode once again
Happy belated birthday Chloe!
Wow I am shocked that the 747 continued to fly for two decades
Some 747s today (-400s) or Airbus 330s, 340-300s, Boeing 757s, 767s are not any younger than this aircraft was. It doesn't mean they are dangerous in any way. The US Air Force flies KC-135 that were built in the late 1950s !
Happy belated birthday! Hope you had a great birthday, take care and please be safe!
Happy belated birthday. Love and appreciate you so much
Happy birthday, Chloe!
Happy birthday DB!
Good video keep up the good work
Happy belated and thanks for the informative entertainment
Happy birthday Chloe!!!
Happy belated birthday love your content
I know, I know.... The statistics say that air travel is the safest when compared to car, bus, and rail, but man.... I have binge watched this awesome series so much to the point I am about terrified to even breathe in the direction of an aircraft now. Ill keep my feet planted for now.
I'll fly my ass off in FSX though 😂😂
Great videos as always though my friend!
Creepily similar to JAL 123. A faulty repair to a tailstrike leads to disaster years later.
Happy birthday man! Thank you for providing us with stellar content.
happend to jal 123 as well,theire tail broke because of a massive decompression (rudder,and pieces of tail broke off,hydraulic completly loss)) crashed in the mountains in japan.
happy birthday Chloe!!
Happy birthday mate
It’s incredibly sad that this accident even was able to occur. There was so many opportunities where the hull part could’ve been replaced, especially after the aloha airlines incident. It’s good that they’ve recovered their safety reputation though.
The fact that that area was streaked with smoke if a myth. When two pieces of aluminum rub together or fret on as n aircraft it looks like smoke. Farther confusion comes from when a loose rivet frets in it's hole and stains trailing on the plane mechanics have called this "smoking rivets" Somebody started a myth either by misconception or joking that this fretting was caused by cigarette smoke. You can find these signs on planes that have never been smoked in. I'm a retired certified aircraft mechanic.
Long time watcher, first time commenter; HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHLOE!
Happy birthday to you!
Sad thing is that plane really held together really well considering the damage done and the flights it logged after the tail strike
Nice. Ive been suggesting West Carribean Airways flight 708 for almost a year can you do a video regarding it?