Dravid a bigger match winner than Tendulkar?
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2017
- Sanjay Manjrekar & VVS Laxman in conversation with Aakash Chopra & Jaideep Verma- authors of the book 'numbers do lie', at SporTale (India's first sport themed literary festival). 'Numbers Do Lie' tells 61 interesting cricket stories that conventional stats tend to hide.
Sachin did well with his bowling in adelaide test in 2003. Contributed with his bowling skill to win match.
Laxman 2nd inning at Durban 2010. And 2nd inning at Colombo 2010 must have had very high impact index. ??
Yes, you understand the game very well
Totally 👌
Sanjay Manjrekar is crying from last 20 years about Sachin . Jealously is only word that comes in mind , Perhaps he was never able to digest how a Mumbai kid became so big . Who can forget his infamous article about Tendulkar’s Technique in TOI . Once he was considered most accomplished batsman but lasted 37 test matches only (Thanks to Dada and Dravid entry ) . Dravid was greatest “test” batsman in last 25 years for India but Sachin the greatest batsman in all format across any where . And the expectation that Sachin carried from 95 till 2003 was mountain. Btw for me biggest impact player ever for India in test is Anil Kumble . ( p.s. commenting after watching first 8 mins )
Edit 1. What kind of guy sitting next to manjrekar.. asking failure rate to Laxman . Analyst .. hmm 🤔
Ummm, uk Kumble was a flat track bully? He averages above 40 in every country of SENA.
Sachin - man of the match - for B & H World Cup 1992 in Australia, at 18 years old pretty much won the match for India along with Kapil Dev - lest you forget
People need to stop calling Tendulkar a 'God'. There is only one God, and that is God the almighty, Tendulkar was merely one of the greatest batsmen in international cricket, but he was a mere human, one of God's creations. As a batsman, Virat Kohli rolls into one the best attributes of Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman.
He mentions Greg Chappell as being one of the 3 biggest impact players in the history of test cricket. I do happen to know from a reliable source that Greg Chappell was one of only 3 batsmen to average 50 or more during the 1970s.
India won only two matches in Australia so far from 1992 -2015
Dravid top scored in both the matches.
Adelaide-223 & 71*
Perth- 93
And in Jamaica he scored 83 & 67 in a low scoring match .Top scorer in tough bowling conditions .
Don't forget his contribution in many test match saving innings.
@Sankaranarayana Kishakkamadam sachin scored match winning 193 in hadingley in eng .ind won the match .sachin scored match winning 160 against new Zealand in new Zealand to win the series .this is called series defining innings .sachin scored match winning 91 top scorer to win the series against eng in 2007 .this is called series defining innings ..and when rahul dravid scored match winning 233 against aus .but this is not series defining innings .rahul dravid scored match winning 93 in perth in 2008 .but ind lose the series 2-1 .
so can you name any series defining innings against South Africa aus new Zealand and eng .and why you bring jamaica performers in this is jamaica is in aus or south Africa or eng or in new Zealand. Actually the fact is dravid hasn't scored any series defining performeces in south Africa aus eng and in new Zealand .actually there is not a comparison between sachin and dravid .sachin is miles miles better than dravid in all aspects
@@AmanKumar-pb6sl wi zim 2003 ke baat dead pitch thi aur bowler bhi
@@AmanKumar-pb6sl what a statistics Aman sir.
sachin is great but you are also encyclopaedia of cricket.
thnx to you.
goodluck sirji.
No doubt, that Sachin & Rahul are the two greatest batsmen to have played for India irrespective of how you dissect the game of cricket.
Comparing the two would be a complete folly to put it lightly/mildly. The only factor, that distinguishes both is "talent". Sachin surely was superiorly talented in comparison to Rahul. Sachin's talent was a "God gifted"/"natural" one. Nobody can compete with such a talent. Any person who is bestowed with such talent is beyond all comparison.
But on all other parameters, they stand shoulder to shoulder.
Secondly, I wonder how people, including VVS today are claiming, that he (VVS) would have performed FAR better @no.3.
Don't these people know how bad his footwork was ?
Don't these people also know how vulnerable he was outside-the-off stump ?
No batsman could have performed "better" with such BIG flaws, especially in test cricket.
Noone remembers Manjarekar. Do you remember Piyush Chawla? He played 2011 WC. Doesn't matter you win WC or not. Legends are legends. VVS, Dravid, Ganguly, Kumble.
Rahul sir.. U r a truly an ambassador to the "Gentlemen's sport"
The most impacted player this game has ever seen , has been the Sachin Tendulkar, undoubtly!!! He not only gathered the mamonth tally of nearly 33000 runs but also successfully met with the burden of carrying the pressure of expectations of crores of Indians! Every time he went on to bat , he carried that extra pressure but then satisfied practically every nook and corner of our country over a period of time , relentlessly with an armoury at his disposal !!! So what an impacted player he was !!! Wasn't he ???
Choice of words should have been better. Mentioning 'Failure Rate' of Laxman in front of him. Whatever analyst you are, this sounded derogatory
Anshuman Sharma u r absolutely right.as a analyst he is a shit person
that stupid guy us just an ----hole
Who is he???
Impact has not taken into consideration the SPECTATORS IMPACT on the player. Like playing in India with huge crowds as against playing abroad. Other things coming to mind is theIndia Pakistan or the Ashes series
He fails to know or not mentioning knowing that Wins for INDIA are more when VVVS scored than any other player including Sachin in Tests ..Let manjrekar verify. !! VVVs n Dravid match winners. May be sachin too.. This fellow speaks of LaxMAN failures of first two yrs 1996 n 97. Lat two yrs of 2010 n 11 or so. Not in the middle of many years From 1998 to 2009...Even sachin n Gavaskar has many Failures .this fellow deliberately forgets .
Gods are behind the WALL... Sachin And Dravid both are greats.. Dravid performance on tough conditions are well appreciable
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East or West , Dravid is the best...Reconfirmed...
@Soumik Chakraborty 😂😂 lol
always comparsion...
M.waugh vs Sachin
Lara vs Sachin
Kohli vs Sachin
Rahul vs Sachin
any future cricketer vs Sachin
no doubt...Sachin is Benchmark to scale many other great players.
no doubt...Gavaskar/Sachin/Dravid/Laxman - Indian TEST Batting Greats.
ALSO ADD G R VISHWANATH
Dravid was a team man. He did every thing for team. He even kept wickets for longer duration and his batting skills were exceptional. Debuting at the age of 23 and ending up scoring 13k runs . Dropped from odi nearly for 4 years and still scored 10k plus runs in that format. Even in ipl he was surprisingly well. So comparing with sachin or any other batsman is absolutely bizzare and ridiculous.
Laxman use to play well with tailenders and use to score quickly with them as well
Jinhone aapne Career me kuch nahi wo aaj cricket k analysis kar rahe 😂😂😂😂 expect the great vvs
to ab cricket legends cricket analysts bn jaye kya?
even greatest football coaches were not good players..
Dravid in tests, better on the field.in life , off the field ,he is the best.
Dravid has given best performances for INDIA
Laxman brings out one of the biggest flaw in this analysis, psychological condition of the player. I myself regard Dravid nearly equal or better than Sachin in tests, but Sachin always played under 10 times more national expectations than Dravid. Dravid always took the backseat, out of the limelight, and focused only on his game. With Sachin a great innings was almost always expected, in *both formats*, not the case with Dravid. Sachin has had much more *good* series than Dravid in every country, Dravid has had more *exceptional* series than Sachin and more importantly away. Dravid had all 4 MoS awards away from India, whereas Sachin had 1 out of 5. But when Dravid failed, he failed badly. Had an avg of 16, 22, 32 and 120 in 4 series in Australia. Sachin had north of 50 in every series he played. Coincidentally, we drew the only series in Australia in 2003 and that was when Dravid peaked. This has been a constant trend in every country when you compare Dravid and Sachin. Tough call, but Sachin edges Dravid for his versatility, consistency and the insane expectations he played under
Sachin is sachin
Entire nation wanted Sachin to do well every single inning & wanted Dravid to do well every single time when India was trapped in tough situations, so the impact of pressure that both had might be quite even...!
@@Bobha_cha_Bobhata the players dont think about crows expectations while the match is on going. Those things are taught before the match or series starts. So yeah, crowd pressure on sachin was real as press and public make it clear before the series or mat h starts. Once it starts and the players are in the middle it is all about the game and not crowd, so in that time Dravid doesnt think about the crowd. The pressure on both wasn't same
@@chintanshah1725 that means u wanna say Dravid had no expectations on him?? And I highlighted the point every single time ind was in troublesome situation, entire nation wanted Dravid to set the tone & he has done this his entire career. He used to set the tone of the game so beautifully that things used to become just a bit easy for coming batters...! Yeah I agree about the point that we must not compare them but to respect both of them..! 🙌
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23:39 ,Who is sanjay talking about michael bevan or anyone else? And 1:13:24, who is akash talking about?
Sachin should not compare with any batsman...Whatever Sachin did ...
It's just magic...🇮🇳🚩🚩
you are right guruji..
sachin is incomparable in all aspects of cricket
unarguably.
I think u don't about Rahul Dravid more
Rajdeep you have done a great job man . Concern over impact ful playerd
I still have my inhibitions with the title...but I must accept that some 3yrs back when I first saw their video in you tube I felt like "don't make much sense"...but they have come a long way (though I still feel that some of these aren't of great sense bcz they are produced of fascination of looking) back
Rahul Dravid is great as was laxman. But trying to belittle Sachin shows how joker kind of these guys are?
Leave cricket dravid a better human being in my opinion
Yes
chutiya discussion....i accept dravid is best compared to sachin.....but this is like disrespecting sachin....if the team doesnt win even sachin score a century what can he do for it????
laxman 281 matters only becaz bhajji bowled well....so if bajji havent bowled well india wouldnt have won...so is that 281 waste then??
Actually Sachin's triple strike in that match also did a lot to won that match.
U accepted dravid is better than sachin😂😂😂😂
Come on more jokes please 😂
Laxman produced the grt8est innings !!!!! 281
Nice honest talking in India cricket for a change
We all know that Dravid was great, an exceptional player, we adore & respect him. If Dravid plays well why we need to compare him with Tendulkar. All these chumps always try to bring Tendulkar down, I'm not talking about Laxman, but all others, the jadega's , the Manjerekar's and the chopra's are nothing but jealous of Sachin, as they couldn't emulate the kind of success Sachin has had. Aakash Chopra (Manjerekar, Jadeja also) might have had such 8-10 panel discussions just to prove that so and so player is better than Tendulkar. Harsha Bogle never does comparison, he appreciates the beauty of the game and maybe that's why he's class above every other commentator. Again I'm not talking about Laxman. I've not seen this video. Never will.
2nd innings contribution s r important
Cricket more of a mental game than physical game which requires agility and athleticism
Vvs laxman is a special gift for our country
Sanjay and Akash are legends. I'm speaking like that😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Some men just want to seek more attention by speaking all these stuffs
The greatest impactful batsman of India is Gundappa Viswanath 🙏
No doubt Dravid is legend even when ask from him to whom he want to contribute his innings he said to sachin, Sachin was great blend of Gavaskr and viv Richard that is why he is god of cricket.
No it's easy for people to throw stones at tendulkar .... And akash chopra wrote the book 😂😂😂
Who is the player who played for averages they are talking about.
Bhumit Mehta I think they are thinking about Steve waugh because they are talking about a batsman who batted in lower order and Shane Warne said that waugh played for his average
If they were talking about an Indian player then Dhoni i suppose. Not every match or every time, but surely in lesser important matches, where there would have a chance to boost the average and losing the match wouldn't be that much of a difference. Or in situations when you knew that the match was surely gone out of hands. But having said that he has played some wonderful knocks too so it all balances out
Manoj prabhakar. Search that match when he batter with mongia.
nobody talk abt satting a example in first match of the series , the way tendulkar dominated shane warne in 1998 in chennai , tendulkar became night-mare for him and entire aus team and they only wants to get out him nobody focus on other indian player and that series india won 2-1
and same case with ms dhoni 224 inning in chennai
Manjrekar considers himself as a legend which he is definitely not...
Vivian Richards had declared Sanjay manjrekar as technically best number 1 batsman in the world . Yes his career was not that long.
Manjrekar failed cricketer, started with Sachin and could not play and standout. Jealousy from Sachin since long time.
Thing is Sachin Had to face a lot of pressure , he had burden of whole lot of expectations, everyone expected him to perform to each and everytime
Mr chopra being a cricketer needs to understand that at the end of the day it is not just numbers , it is a gamut of factors that make u a real cricketer with impact . The sheer impact of Sachin’s presence has inspired millions of people across the world not only totake up the sport but also play the way he did . The meekness on display till date by the man speaks volumes and stands as an indelible testimony that keeps imbibing standards in people so don’t just come up with sub standard topics like this to make some money .
The fact that u make money talking abt him should make u realize how big an emotion he is to the nation . Had you spent such meticulous analysis on the way u played u would have jumped from being a 1 % utility cricketer to 2 %
Rahul Dravid is a great human being and a great player. Much respect for him. But so far I remember my childhood Sachin was not just a player. Sachin was an emotion.
Laxman is an honest gentleman
santosh pandey I agree with you
yes thats true
Laxman on point.
Dravid great player in the world any format
Similar to azhar who use to score quickly without getting noticed
Hi Guys, are you considering only TEST matches? what about ODI and WC performance?
If you combine both test + ODI, Master goes first and followed by Wall and others.
Dravid is great player, No doubt. If you combine both ODI + Test, The Master is matchless. (may be next potential match is Kohli)
You may know by a handful the whole....below are few WC match highlights
1996 WC, Sachin was the highest run scorer for India and he scored 523 runs... Siddhu was 2nd leading scorer for India and he scored 178 runs.
2 times,highest run scorer in a single WC tournament (1996,2003), india went to semi in 1996 and went to final (2003)
3 times,highest run scorer for India in a single WC tournament (1996,2003,2011), india won the cup in 2011
in his 1st WC (19 years old), 2nd highest run scorer for India (1992). India managed to win 2 matches and Sachin was man of the matches in both matches.
The most irritating guy must be aksah chopra.was a flop batman.
He has had a more successful career than you and I combined bro
Chintan Shah I don't think so bro
Really?
I think there is a Bhuvaneshwar Kumar in Indian team ad unles you are him, I don't think I have seen you playing. I certainly haven't made the Indian team yet, but hope's still alive. Anyways kidding aside, Akash Chopra was by no means a FLOP player. He has had a very successful First Class career. He had a decent international outing, and was rather unlucky to not be given more chances. Considering how lesser talented players have been given lot more chances, Chopra was very unlucky to be dropped after just 1 relatively poor series. He did well against New Zealand in home and also complemented Sehwag perfectly in Australia. He occupied the crease for a long time and played the traditional role expected of an opener. Post that he had 1 poor series against Australia at home and he was unceremoniously dumped. That was a bit harsh considering how many chances others have got
I never said i was crickter ...bt whatever i do i think i do better than chopra
What about sangakkara scoring 1800-1900 runs vs Zimbabwe with many centuries.
There is no need of any second thought, Sachin is the best. When it comes to limited overs, there is no scope for any debate as Sachin would easily wins the race by miles🤭.
Only the possible exception for comparison is test, still tendulkar has the better edge over Dravid. There is no denial in the fact Dravid is a legend of the game but comparing to tendulkar is not acceptable.
Considering the stats in test Sachin as the clear edge. Sachin averages 53.78 even after playing 200 tests
whereas Dravid averages 52.31 after playing 164 tests. Even after playing 36 more tests Sachin as the better avg.
*Some stats for comparison*
Sachin:
Avg(home):52.67
Avg(away):54.75
Total runs:15921
Runs(home):7216
Runs(away):8705
Dravid:
Avg(home):51.36
Avg(away):53.03
Total runs:13288
Runs(home):5598
Runs(away):7690
This stats show Sachin avgs better than Dravid in both away and home conditions. Also remember the fact that Sachin has an avg of 45+ in SENA Countries whereas Dravid doesn't have. Dravid avgs a mere 29.71🥺 in South Africa and that is not a stat justifiable for the GOAT 🐐 Indian test player. Interesting fact is that Sachin avgs 46.44 in SA pitches and have 5 centuries whereas Dravid as only 1. Another interesting fact is that Sachin avgs 53.21 in Australia whereas Dravid has only 41.64 and scored only 1 century whereas Sachin as 6🔥.
Some people says that Sachin is selfish player and he only plays for the runs ,but those are some idiotic claims because the same Sachin that these people accuses for selfish play have taken 29437 balls to pill up the 15921 test runs. But Dravid has taken 31258 balls to get 13288 runs.
Consuming lots of balls will not win you games ,the most important thing that matters last is the runs in your scoreboard and Sachin has contributed more runs even consuming less balls than Dravid. This shows Sachin's greatness and superior batting skill. Does this makes Dravid a selfish player(consuming lot of balls and scoring at pathetic strike rate)????
( Actually no😅, I know this is test match and consuming balls is not a crime and some match situation demands this style of play. But some illogical people goes on saying Sachin is a selfish player and I don't know on what basics they are claiming🙄. If they are saying Sachin is a selfish player, then on what category should Dravid be included😂😂). I never meant to disrespect Dravid but my words are for Sachin hater's and it's better they make a reality check 🤗😂.
There was a time when Sachin was the lone warrior and he had to do the heavy lifting . He had single handedly won many matches without much contribution from other batsmen any there was a time when other teams believed, " when Sachin is gone, half the battle is won". There are many instances where Indian batting order collapsed after Sachin's wicket. ( There are plenty , if I want to name them few😂). I don't know why some people still saying the blunders that Sachin contributed less in winning games in test , but actually Sachin avgs 60+ in winning test especially in foreign soil along with Dravid . Even in lossing causes also, there will be Sachin's lone batting efforts. But some foolish people blames that when Sachin scores runs or get a century, it is of no use as India lose. It is one of the biggest blunder statement and some idiotic people continues spreading it😂. They are not aware of the fact that, by saying so they are not actually degrading Sachin but the rest of the team's batting lineup. These blunder statement literally translates that, 'even in lossing cause there was Sachin's contribution but even after Sachin's contribution if the team went to loss, then the sole reason will be the Ill performing rest of the batting lineup but Sachin was still able to tackle the obstacles in that difficult pitch where others perished'.
excellent analysis
Dravid really stood like a lone person in that team time and time again and is respected world over to take India out of tough pressure situations single handedly. He has contributed everywhere. First Indian to score centuries against every cricket playing nation and every foreign country that plays cricket. He had to play alone after all the people had been bold that's why needed to take the extra balls... Dude.
@@romakashyap2119 see his test record in south africa
What a great answer
Superb. What that amateur journalist forgot was Sachin's record against Australia in Australia where Rahul Dravid and VVS performances paled in comparison. And that Australia was ruthless, well-oiled machine that boasted of McGrath, Warne, Lee and Gillespie. Rahul Dravid's record in England where it seams and swings is abysmal. Whereas Sachin stamped his class and dominance. Sachin is the G.O.A.T. He is in the league of Sir Don Bradman, Sir Gary Sobers, Sunil M. Gavaskar and Sir Viv Richards. It's blasphemous to even compare the batting masterclass of Sachin R. Tendulkar with Rahul Dravid. Even though Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly and VVS Laxman were great batsmen, but Sachin R. Tendulkar was the greatest amongst the greats. Period.
Were these guys talking about kedar jadhav taking singles to maintain average??
VVS looks very disturbed coz of heat :D :D
Cricket is more of a numbers game and a mind game
best batsman best fielder best wicketkeeper best dependable and good human beings 💚💚💚💚💜💜💜❤❤❤I miss you 💘💘
I respect Dravid to the most as gentleman of the Indian cricket or even the world cricket considering Sachin in those list. People should understand the difference interference vs actuals . Interference is always driven by perspective you are looking at .. bottom line we should never entertain this kind of books ever in sports. This people do this kind even just draw attention of people as the opposition you are talking as achieved even ever think of ..
what is this gentleman, and drvd?? most cunning shameless and jelous drvd. its proved many times.
bro, just refer Google, drvd is having maximum controversies against drvd name.
which angle drvd is gentleman???
sbse neech and kamina person drvd.
VVS is degrading his position by taking part in this circus
In his retirement speech Brian Lara asked the crowd "Did I entertain?". There was a huge roar.
Dravid must've contributed better than Sachin. But cricket is primarily watched (or Roger Federer in tennis) for the purpose of entertainment. Winning is a close 2nd place. Who are better entertainers than Sachin over such an extended period!!! None comes close IMO.
Sachin ki jada match winning century hai aur jitne ki baat toh team jeetati hai bahut saari century waste gayi aise hi aur dravid ne kya kiya sa aus srl me lagatar fail yah tum nahi dekhoge
Dravid didn't received the kind of reception or he been celebrated as of now during his playing days. Unlike Sachin ,during his playing days he didn't have the same amount of fanfare as Sachin and didn't credited for his contributions. That is a truth, it's well Dravid being credited for his contributions now, but that doesn't mean Dravid is by any mean above Sachin. Sachin's contribution to cricket is way higher than anyone. He was an emotion. His contribution is not limited to just one format. He also chipped in with crucial bowling also. It's good to praise Dravid for his heroics but don't make Sachin a tool. The same people who accused Dravid as a just one dimensional player who only knows to bloke and play with pathetic strike rate have realized what Dravid meant to Indian cricket after these years( also his contributions to juniors and under-19 sector has made a huge impact on people about him, also his gentleman nature), that guilt feeling in people of not crediting him much during his playing days have now prompted people to celebrate Dravid has never before. It's good ,but to make Dravid has a great, generous and team player, many are picturising Sachin has a selfish player who only played for runs . It is very disgusting nature of people, there should be some level of courtesy and don't forget what Sachin meant to Indian cricket ( not only Indian cricket but to cricket) He is the greatest ambassador of the game and undeniably the real GOAT 🐐.
Yeah... Each have their own space. People understand Dravid's impact now but it is separate to Sachin... Does not have to compare in anyway.
Kapil 175 didn't had impact I don't what type of measurement is that
not just one inning
Right now
46:00 same with tendulkar in his entire career
The GOAT of Test Batting, Don Bradman, invited and spoke about Sachin R. Tendulkar. Period.
In terms of the greatest impact player, there is none more so than the legendary Opener, Original Master Blaster, Sunil M. Gavaskar. He played at the top of his game against the best and deadliest bowling line up ever assembled, West Indies.
Rahul Dravid is one of the best batsmen of all time.
Akash Chopra was an average cricketer. People shouldn't take his opinions seriously. So is this ludicrous gathering except Laxman.
No matter how much this ludicrous gathering tried to hardsell Dravid.
First, it was Sunny Gavaskar. Then, it was Kapil Dev. Then, it was Sachin R. Tendulkar. Then it was Anil Kumble. Four greatest impact players in the history of Indian cricket.
What about the One-day cricketer sachin ?who played white ball role opener and in middle order in his early part of career with distinction??? And. What about the pressure on Sachin to deliver each and every time he steps out to BAT
Dravid 'The Best Team Player'
Sachin won many matches single handedly.. I think he has not seen those matches. Just for content he is doing this.
Here you are wrong buddy sachin was great performer but not match winner there is a diffrence and obviously he set the match but cant finish look at india's win raito in those matches where sachin scores hundred , no doubt he is legendary batsman noone can be sachin he is only one but with all due respect there is diffrence between performer and match winner ^_^
He was batting alone (Like gully Cricket Last man can bat and runout on both ends) on both side ? its team sport so there is no point to win any match Single handedly.
Lol, ya he has. But not tough matches. Sachin shits in pants when the conditions are tough. Tough situation got the best out of Dravid.
@@jpc501 dravid sa aur srl fail hua hai
Sometimes Sanjay is right 23:38
Sachin R. Tendulkar is the God of batting. He is a pure masterclass and beyond comparison. Sachin can only be compared with Sir Don Bradman. Period. Rahul Dravid is a meticulous student of the game who always came on top on the back of sheer hard work, perseverance and determination. Just imagine if Sachin wasn't robbed of his hundreds by dubious umpiring decisions especially Bucknor who got what he deserved. That journalist should be reminded that if it wasn't for Sachin R. Tendulkar, there would never be Dravid or Laxman. Most importantly, India never had the batting or bowling lineup. He was a lone Ranger for the first 7 years of his career. He redefined the ODI batting. Sachin is the most complete batsman since Don Bradman and Garfield Sobers.
Sanjay Manjrekar is misunderstood.. he never intentionally criticized anyone
People regards Dravid more impactful in test than Sachin...How many 4th inning tons Dravid has in test?? People often talk about 233 in Adelaide that was brilliant but how come many tons scored by Sachin were less as far as impact is concerned
Prashant in test matches dravid was far better then sachin bro and check your stats please he scored 3 back to back hundreds in aus. Series in 1st in 1st innings second in 2nd innings and 3rd in next tests 2nd innings and in other series too please do research :)
@@harrybrar7635 I don't need your suggestion to change my perspective bro
@@prashy069 lol Then dont give false stats bro just for proof himself right its your choice whome you want to like or dislike and you have every right but atleast dont give wrong stats ,, btw noone need to know about your perception about those legends your perception not matters then why are you commenting it here ?? 😂😂😂 just for showing your point of view i think i also did the same thing so dont get hyper mate they both are indians before cricketers
@@harrybrar7635 may be I gave wrong inputs regarding Dravid Australian tour but over all it is always Sachin then Dravid..and yes it is always an individual's choice
Harry Brar ghanta dravid has only 1 test century in Australia whereas sachin tendulkar has 6 test centuries .In south Africa dravid has only 1 test century whereas sachin tendulkar has 5 test centuries . In England both of them has 6 test centuries
tomorrow they will say kohli n rohit are better than rahul, sachin n saurav.. sachin is sachin.. rahul is rahul.. both r greats. in ODIs rahul wasnt as amazing though. but he was a Test great
Rahul Dravid contribution in odi cricket is great. But hugely ignored.He is a silent killer. He support and anchor the team by keeping one end stable without losing his wicket.
Dravid involved in many great partnership as well.
SIR RAHUL DRAVID the greatest Batsman
And biggest matches Winn was virender Sehwag who was neglected and discarded out of hatred snd personal revenge . Fie on Dhoni, Tendulkar for his rejection and no inclusion in test elevens.
Laxman is true. Dravid was never seen as an attractive player like Sachin but dravid developed his game well over the years to become a big impact player like Sachin. Very different style of playing but the impact was great
common sense. sachin 76 times man of the match.
dravid 25 times.
its so transferent, sachin is real match winner and dravid nothing.
kohli so far 36 times including 20-20. but he will hv many more.
Akash Chopra is better Match winner than Sehwag.
sunil gavasker the greates batatsman ever
Yes he played against dangerous west indies bowling attack without helmet great batter cross ten thousand runs with 61plus strike rate in test cricket sunny was a great batter
Finally someone appreciate Ashwin's performance ❤️❤️ ❤️
Rahul Dravid is the best 🌹 in test cricket ..
WOW after so many years Sanjay Manjrekar got the support from some other to try to degrade Tendulkar. I hope this was the only use of this book. The other thing is they pick a player whom they want to show as the impact player and then try to prove it. For example for 2003 IND PAK match they are proving that 98 by Tendulkar was not an impact inning and the inning after that was. So you mean if Tendulkar had got out for 10 or 15 you would have won the match? For 1983 world cup if Kapil had not played the inning of 175 would Sandip Patil be able to play the inning in the Final. What a waste of time by the writers.....
Averrage indian cricket viewer is like you. Who thinks that a group stage game in WC 2003 is more bigger event than 2001 eden garden or 2003 adelaide.
@Pratham sharma lol, just simply list down India's famous test wins in last 20 years just see by urself in how many times dravid feature in. Our poor dravid avgs more than ur 'GWAD' in overseas matches.
@Pratham sharma lol , add ur first 11 years of Sachin and then look at test victories outside India, that will make it even worser hahahaha.
@@jpc501 lekin odi ke hisaab se hai idiot
@@jpc501 bullshit overseas me sachin ka jada avg hai ha dravid ne 2000 me minnow kiya isiliye uska outside asia avg hua hai
Author appears to be in a confused state of mind in a sense that what exactly has been impact created innings which helped India either to win or save the match and on the other side impact created Performance which was from the particular series or derived from the entire playing days ..... I personally feel that author seems to be interested to place Rahul Dravid ahead of Tendulkar as far as impact created performances were concerned. Whatever yardstick you may apply for an analysis of the above nature, i don't think that readers would agree to what has been highlighted about SACHIN and RAHUL and their rankings .
Yah agar odi ka bol raha hai toh no doubt test ka bol raha hai toh dravid bhi aus sa srl me fail hai
east or west virat kohli , sachin and sunny were the best , all these 3 in their generations had to carry a lot of expectations , sunny gavaskar in 70's and 80's was the spine of india's batting lone warrior , same with sachin in 90's and now i see virat to do the same for 6 years now as far as overseas batting is concerned !!! the skill levels , domination , standing up on expectations , and shere callibre put these 3 legends ahead of any one else and if we say about odi cricket then sachin and virat are best and all time greats but would like to put virat a little ahead than sachin just for his ability to chase !!!!! 20 hundreds while chasing insane !!!!
Dravid is a silent killer. He contributed more in indian wins than anyone. But people forget his impact cuz of his slow batting.His defence strategy really worked against the opposition.
East or west kl rahul , rahul dravid, gundappa vishvanath are best 😉
Dravid was fantastic in ICC tournaments as well when Sachin would often not perform!
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U. Drunk?
U mean like a World Cup ?
@@adityab.s1316 exactly!
@@prashy069 and you need to get out of someone's ass!!
As for the World Cup... forget Dravid ...nobody can hold a candle to the little master
Dravid hi aisa batsman h jisne sab test countries k samne century lagayi h
Chutiye apna general knowledge thik kar le Sachin hai
@@someshsingh9171 no...he is right ....Rahul has centuries against all countries and Tendulkar has also centuries against all countries except Zimbabwe (which was a good team at that time)
@@SagarSingh-xt2hy dravid ke time pe weak thi zimbabwe
I don't know why Sanjay Manjrekar criticizes others ...where as he is so poor in talent
Failed cricketing career, so what, write a book & judge the greats!!!!
but his points are spot on
Exactly
you would clearly see laxman is the one who is clearly most uncomfortable and embarrased sitting there one would guess he must have been dragged down to this panel without knowing the agenda and was caught by a surprise..anyone who knows cricket knows that laxman is the biggest admirer of Sachin and would never do this ..lol..
Rahul dravid is the best of test
Disgusting. Why VVS participates in these kind of discussion.
No doubt about the greatness of the Wall. I love and respect him. But Sachin belongs to the league of Lara and Viv.
Not getting into the comparison debate, but I feel the best points made in the video are from VVS Laxman. Statistics and Averages and Strike Rates are fine but the emotions matter. Sachin changed as a cricket after tennis elbow, Ganguly changed after the Chappel incident so did Dravid. We need to respect that too.
if u see entire statistics, records and attitude.
sachin is incomparable.
@@pradeeppatkar4113 To great extent I agree. Being a huge Sachin fan from a young age. He is a complete batting maestro.
To understand journey and quantify the impact is not that much easy the way they are trying to do calculation. In our generation lara is the biggest match winner in test match and Sachin in one day match.
If sachin can bat in 1st down then might be he can able to beat lara as per talent wise. But there is no if and but. For me lara , sachin, inzamam and Steve Waugh they are the biggest match winner. Before 90's have not seen the cricket otherwise might be I will take the name of viv Richards by seeing his record. The only thing is viv was not need to face his own team bowler as during that time WI bowler was threat to other team. Dravid was in great form 2001 to 2004. Sachin was in peak from 1994 to 1998 and then 2007 to 2011. In middle sachin was in good form but not in his peak. So if you calculate in that way might be you feel sachin have more impact compare to Dravid.
I don't believe in that type of calculation. Just want to say you can calculate in different different way. Fully disagree with his calculation that is the bottom line.
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The panel was very Very disrespectful of vvs Laxman.
If Sachin was natural opener then why he was batting in most comfortable position in test cricket no.4, Dravid in that matter was holding his position in both odi and tests. Take a example of Hayden I rate him as true and better opener than Tendulkar
Because the general logic is that your best batsman has to score the most number of runs. It is a bit easier to bat at no.4 than open, but then the pressure to consistently score huge runs at that position is a different kind of pressure, a kind which we often underestimate because if successful in handling that pressure then it doesn't give a good story to write or enjoy, but easier to pounce upon, if failed
Ok that's your opinion thankyou
@@saikumar-tn1ku talking to me or op?
@@chintanshah1725
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Chutiye saale...Gilchrist opened in odis but where did he bat in Tests...
And yes Gilchrist is no average batsman...get your basic cricket knowledge first
How foolish can we be? Degrading the best batsman of his era. Don Bradman said, "Sachin bats like me", Graeme Polock said, "If we can compare any modern batsman to the greats of old days, it has to be Sachin". These half baked guys (except VVS, who said "Don't compare players") are using statistics to glorify others over Sachin. Just look at the batting averages of Sachin, Dravid and Sehwag against Australia played in Australia and you will know how great is the difference. Sachin 53.2; Virat Kohli 54.08; Sehwag 47.4; Pujara 47.28; VVS Laxman 44.14; Dravid 43.96; These are their career records in Australia which was the toughest team to beat during their time. With the lowest averages against Australia in Australia, they are definitey not better than Sachin. What numbers are these guys talking about? Overall averages? Yeah if you score runs against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and built your career records you don't become better than Tendulkar. Sorry to hear this low quality discussion.
Uss time me aus nahi thi tough sa thi specially asian batsmen ke liye ab toh eng nz lagane lagi hai
You can compare and decide, but what about over all performances, in Eden gardens in 2001, that Laxman test, sachin tendulkar got 3 valuable wickets in 2 nd innings, so also in Adelaide in 2002, where he got 2 and what about the impact Tendulkar had on other players and his presence had on opposition. What indian cricket is now or BCCI is because of that kid with curly hair. He added fans, money, opportunities to the spot. Please don't compare. Enjoy the game of cricket and love it.