My Lenovo Ideapad with intel i3 and 8GB of RAM can handle all the load that you currently threw at Macbook M4 Max. Most people who thing they might need a Macbook Pro to do stuff actually don't need one
If you are a dev, solely focussed on a single type of task and nothing else. Go for low end systems. If you're not, focus on expansion of skill sets and upgrade your rig if you can afford, cause AI is going to eat up the people (esp. those who are think using i3 with 8gb ram is enough). As a developer most IDEs run shit on base configs and even some pro configs and the emulators hog memory like no other. I purchased an M2 Max (64GB) back in 2023 and got a good open box discount (from a reviewer) with intact warranty (around $3000). Best purchase decision. Now I have diversified as a developer working on Unreal Engine projects, running multiple docker containers, parallels Windows for cross platform dev work, running local LLMs (ollama instead of paying for one like copilot that has somewhat equivalent functionality), and logic pro that I got at a student discount (included Final cut and some other crap), Fusion 360 for CAD and hobby projects. I started off as a flutter developer that dabbled in python. If I stuck to my old laptop (i7 11th gen, 16GB and 2060), I could not hope to do half of this, simply cause the tools weren't there. Make of it what you will.
M4 max for programming: installing vscode and some html tags extension... reality check.. my retired 12 year old Intel could handle the load you threw at it...
Nice! @7:00. However, how did you get a 14-core CPU, 32-core GPU, and 64GB of RAM? Apple doesn’t offer this configuration. I think your machine might actually have a 16-core CPU, 40-core GPU, and 64GB of RAM.
Deciding btw 16inch and 14"... currently using i9 16", thinking to swap to 14... but not sure if screen space will be enough. Also noticed that 14inch model is too noisy in compare with 16inch
I went to the Apple Store and looked at nano vs regular glossy screens side by side. Go see for yourself. I got the nano screen and in a lighted room it’s much better. My only concern is the durability of the nano coating. Nano is just as sharp to me as the glossy screens
If I have a room where the space behind me is free of lights or reflective surfaces (and is preferably dark or at least matte-finished), then the glossy glass is IMO 10x nicer. The blacks are BLACK and everything is clearer. If you are stuck in a space with bright stuff behind you (TVs, windows, lights, mirrors), then the nano finish is your best compromise solution.
How’s the battery on this machine? My 16 inch M4 max has less battery than my 14 inch M4 pro, which is pretty indicative of how much extra juice the max needs. It also gets nearly as hot. I would be concerned to run sustained loads, and even docking it. The 14 pro even starts to thermal throttle, so surely the max is as well in that chassis.
Since you've tried both, is it better to have 16" or 14" for programming and video editing? So far I've only had the 14" M2 Max and every now and then I wondered if I wouldn't be better off with a 16"... Thank you!
You made the wrong decision. The fully maxed-out 14” MacBook Pro doesn’t perform as well as the 16” due to thermal throttling. So, if you’re going for the 14”, choose it with the Pro chip, and if you need the performance of the Max chip, the 16” is the better choice.
Nice video, How much size of ram of m4 max would be enough to learn AI, ML, Deep learning & Data science for upto 4 years at least ? Do you use cloud also when you have to deal with higher data ? would you suggest investing on machine or using cloud simultaneously with medium configuration ? It would be our pleasure to get your response on it.
Ideally for such tasks you need a minimum of 64GB RAM. However, given the rapid growth, I'd say you should go with something like 96-128 GB RAM. It's up to you. If you want to run the heaviest AI models, you need as much RAM as possible. If you run smaller ones, 32-64 is golden!
What is the heat and fan noise like when coding or video editing? Apple keeps increasing the TDP with each iteration of the M-series chips. The Max in a 14-inch body seems like a bad idea but I have no idea what it's like in real life.
So I’ve had the 16 inch and the 14 inch now seems to perform just as well if not better. I wasn’t able to push the fans to run hot or high this time around, but since I’ll be using it for a the next year I’ll send an update once I run higher workloads. My older m2 16 only ran them when doing extreme stuff!
As Im a freshman getting in to a college in software engineering. Do you find M4 or M4 pro 12-core suits me more? Between M4 32gb of ram and M4 pro 24gb of ram. And in year 3 I will choose AI specialization. Also do you recommend getting nano-texture? Thank you :)
How about m3 pro MBP or M4 MBP for the same workload ? I will be coming to USA for my MS in CS with AI specialization. Can I even do some of these tasks on an M3 air 16gb/512gb machine or is it better I go for the one of the previous models mentioned.
Early assessment is that 14” works better for me; the portability and power combination is more important than the slightly larger screen when it comes to heavier and bulkier carry
thanks for the video, as a developer, do you actually miss that 16" screen real estate? or 14" (and probably external screen) is perfectly fine for all the things you do?
I personally liked the larger screen, but as a portable device the smaller size felt more important and comfortable. I had an Air “13 which was great, just weak, but I often used it instead of the 16” and the screen size didn’t matter too much. With my iPad working as a second screen that only made things easier to go with 14”
How well Price of Persia the lost crown runs on M4 Max? I have M1 Pro and I feel like even Nintendo switch runs better than Mac. I was wondering if M4 Max can run this flawlessly? As game is not very demanding
each test need had watts info as well, as you test the quite low power needs prefer computer or it is just a important things to knew the performance between watts efficentce
Hi i am college student just took admission in Computer Science. Actually it's been like 6 months studying in college. So my question is that I bought a Macbook M3 Air 15" on the education discount for coding with swift and otger languages instead of Windows Machine for that same price of even higher specs As you would know Apple's Swift is only for IOS development and macosX is eequired for that . Did i do right ? Or Nah i should have bohght Windows beacuse Swift isn't that mainstream language ? What are your thoughts on this ?
ehhh you are misrepresenting gaming. Gaming doesn't have a huge library natively but it can run games. I just ran boulders gate 3 at max setting natively. this is on battery power too. I wouldn't consider it a gaming device till the native library expands.
for development buying this super expensive laptop seems waste of money unless you are super rich and have money to waste, 4090 laptop comes at same price with double power and bonus you can enjoy AAA games with 100+ fps
You talk about the advantages of anti-glare coating but fail to mention its significant drawbacks. In fact, 90% of people would likely prefer not to have a matte screen. What’s the point of the video, where are the interesting tests? 90% of the time, you just showed that you installed some programs, launched them for the first time, and said they work fine.
Im sure there are heavily spec videos, and examples of the nano texture in detail, however my video I tried to focus on just my day to day real world use :) (as for the nanotexture, yes slightly less blacks, but I didn’t notice that much in my use)
Colors shift, sharpness blurs, contrast increases - overall, with a matte finish, it's less comfortable to look at the screen 24/7. This is necessary only for a small number of people, such as those who work outdoors or in environments with glare.
Hi man I really love your videos & especially thumbnails they feel kinda natural & makes me feel good 😊
Very helpful insight from a front-end developer.
My Lenovo Ideapad with intel i3 and 8GB of RAM can handle all the load that you currently threw at Macbook M4 Max. Most people who thing they might need a Macbook Pro to do stuff actually don't need one
true if you want to do coding ,no point of buying m4 max , macbook air can do the same if you really want macbook
@@SarthakBahuguna-q8l just wait until you work for some SaaS company where you need to run whole kubernetes cluster in some local minikube
@@SarthakBahuguna-q8l agree and m4 macbook pro 32G ram maybe a better choice
How many hours do you get on battery?
If you are a dev, solely focussed on a single type of task and nothing else. Go for low end systems. If you're not, focus on expansion of skill sets and upgrade your rig if you can afford, cause AI is going to eat up the people (esp. those who are think using i3 with 8gb ram is enough). As a developer most IDEs run shit on base configs and even some pro configs and the emulators hog memory like no other. I purchased an M2 Max (64GB) back in 2023 and got a good open box discount (from a reviewer) with intact warranty (around $3000). Best purchase decision. Now I have diversified as a developer working on Unreal Engine projects, running multiple docker containers, parallels Windows for cross platform dev work, running local LLMs (ollama instead of paying for one like copilot that has somewhat equivalent functionality), and logic pro that I got at a student discount (included Final cut and some other crap), Fusion 360 for CAD and hobby projects. I started off as a flutter developer that dabbled in python. If I stuck to my old laptop (i7 11th gen, 16GB and 2060), I could not hope to do half of this, simply cause the tools weren't there. Make of it what you will.
M4 max for programming: installing vscode and some html tags extension... reality check.. my retired 12 year old Intel could handle the load you threw at it...
Then try ai models my ryzen laptop cant handle it
Then why it got retired?
lol all the react soyboy devs buying m4 max is laughable
Nice! @7:00. However, how did you get a 14-core CPU, 32-core GPU, and 64GB of RAM? Apple doesn’t offer this configuration. I think your machine might actually have a 16-core CPU, 40-core GPU, and 64GB of RAM.
Deciding btw 16inch and 14"... currently using i9 16", thinking to swap to 14... but not sure if screen space will be enough. Also noticed that 14inch model is too noisy in compare with 16inch
Do you prefer the nano over the glossy for watching films and playing video games, coding and video editing? I can’t decide
Personally I do, I also got the nano texture for my Apple Studio Display, and I run a Samsung The Frame for my TV, and always found it better
Nano has worse text clarity imho
I went to the Apple Store and looked at nano vs regular glossy screens side by side. Go see for yourself. I got the nano screen and in a lighted room it’s much better. My only concern is the durability of the nano coating. Nano is just as sharp to me as the glossy screens
If I have a room where the space behind me is free of lights or reflective surfaces (and is preferably dark or at least matte-finished), then the glossy glass is IMO 10x nicer. The blacks are BLACK and everything is clearer. If you are stuck in a space with bright stuff behind you (TVs, windows, lights, mirrors), then the nano finish is your best compromise solution.
How much storage and memory did you end up allocating for docker?
Do you actually need a cable that is connected to the iPad as a second monitor?
No, you don't need the cable to connect to the ipad. Ipad and the macbook need to be connected to the same wifi and blutooth needs to be ON.
@@GuuiYae Will connecting it with a cable improve video latency? And will it charge the MacBook or iPad at the same time?
@bravolatavera3647 there is no latency. Even if you use the cable to connect between mcbook and the ipad, both still need the wifi and blutooth on.
How’s the battery on this machine? My 16 inch M4 max has less battery than my 14 inch M4 pro, which is pretty indicative of how much extra juice the max needs. It also gets nearly as hot. I would be concerned to run sustained loads, and even docking it. The 14 pro even starts to thermal throttle, so surely the max is as well in that chassis.
"That was a really great video! Pretty much all aspects were covered."
Since you've tried both, is it better to have 16" or 14" for programming and video editing? So far I've only had the 14" M2 Max and every now and then I wondered if I wouldn't be better off with a 16"... Thank you!
You made the wrong decision. The fully maxed-out 14” MacBook Pro doesn’t perform as well as the 16” due to thermal throttling. So, if you’re going for the 14”, choose it with the Pro chip, and if you need the performance of the Max chip, the 16” is the better choice.
Great video Adrian! Might have to pick one up myself.
Slightly off topic but is this your home office or office away from home? Love the space.
Nice video, How much size of ram of m4 max would be enough to learn AI, ML, Deep learning & Data science for upto 4 years at least ? Do you use cloud also when you have to deal with higher data ? would you suggest investing on machine or using cloud simultaneously with medium configuration ? It would be our pleasure to get your response on it.
Ideally for such tasks you need a minimum of 64GB RAM. However, given the rapid growth, I'd say you should go with something like 96-128 GB RAM.
It's up to you. If you want to run the heaviest AI models, you need as much RAM as possible. If you run smaller ones, 32-64 is golden!
@ thank you and what about using cloud service for AI, ML etc rather investing in bigger ram.
What is the heat and fan noise like when coding or video editing? Apple keeps increasing the TDP with each iteration of the M-series chips. The Max in a 14-inch body seems like a bad idea but I have no idea what it's like in real life.
So I’ve had the 16 inch and the 14 inch now seems to perform just as well if not better. I wasn’t able to push the fans to run hot or high this time around, but since I’ll be using it for a the next year I’ll send an update once I run higher workloads. My older m2 16 only ran them when doing extreme stuff!
What is macbook diplay size you have for the selected macbook variant ?
I am studying data analytics. Can the MacBook Pro M4 be used for this, or do I need to buy a Windows laptop?
As Im a freshman getting in to a college in software engineering. Do you find M4 or M4 pro 12-core suits me more? Between M4 32gb of ram and M4 pro 24gb of ram. And in year 3 I will choose AI specialization. Also do you recommend getting nano-texture? Thank you :)
How about m3 pro MBP or M4 MBP for the same workload ? I will be coming to USA for my MS in CS with AI specialization. Can I even do some of these tasks on an M3 air 16gb/512gb machine or is it better I go for the one of the previous models mentioned.
I ordered the same model yesterday with 2tb. Are you happy with the 14" vs the old 16"? I struggled with which size to go with...
Early assessment is that 14” works better for me; the portability and power combination is more important than the slightly larger screen when it comes to heavier and bulkier carry
thanks for the video, as a developer, do you actually miss that 16" screen real estate? or 14" (and probably external screen) is perfectly fine for all the things you do?
and also I am curious about the fan noise, while video editing or gaming... (specifically for the binned 14" M4 Max with 32 GPU cores)
I personally liked the larger screen, but as a portable device the smaller size felt more important and comfortable. I had an Air “13 which was great, just weak, but I often used it instead of the 16” and the screen size didn’t matter too much. With my iPad working as a second screen that only made things easier to go with 14”
How well Price of Persia the lost crown runs on M4 Max? I have M1 Pro and I feel like even Nintendo switch runs better than Mac.
I was wondering if M4 Max can run this flawlessly? As game is not very demanding
each test need had watts info as well, as you test the quite low power needs prefer computer or it is just a important things to knew the performance between watts efficentce
Hi i am college student just took admission in Computer Science. Actually it's been like 6 months studying in college. So my question is that I bought a Macbook M3 Air 15" on the education discount for coding with swift and otger languages instead of Windows Machine for that same price of even higher specs
As you would know Apple's Swift is only for IOS development and macosX is eequired for that . Did i do right ? Or Nah i should have bohght Windows beacuse Swift isn't that mainstream language ? What are your thoughts on this ?
Personally I think you made a good decision, you can still virtualise, but as a dev machine, i do think apple's ecosystem does quite well
How that fans is it loud
Counter Strike 2 works with Crossover on Mac.
Awesome & Thanks :)
Nano has worse text clarity imho, especially on white background. And less contrast overall
Yes, but the M4 uses way less energy than your Windows system. The performance per watt is much better.
Programming on a 14" screen is not fun.
Lol m4 max for just programming is just overkill😅
ehhh you are misrepresenting gaming. Gaming doesn't have a huge library natively but it can run games.
I just ran boulders gate 3 at max setting natively. this is on battery power too.
I wouldn't consider it a gaming device till the native library expands.
what do you mean you tried, that is m4 max for crying out loud. i was thinking of buying an m3 MacBook air for programming.
You look somewhat like Mr beast
for development buying this super expensive laptop seems waste of money unless you are super rich and have money to waste, 4090 laptop comes at same price with double power and bonus you can enjoy AAA games with 100+ fps
And bonus, you barely get 2 hours battery lol
@@rosako well no one does deep work at park, they all work at work stations and now you have plugins everywhere
@@rosako exactly my point
You talk about the advantages of anti-glare coating but fail to mention its significant drawbacks. In fact, 90% of people would likely prefer not to have a matte screen.
What’s the point of the video, where are the interesting tests? 90% of the time, you just showed that you installed some programs, launched them for the first time, and said they work fine.
Im sure there are heavily spec videos, and examples of the nano texture in detail, however my video I tried to focus on just my day to day real world use :) (as for the nanotexture, yes slightly less blacks, but I didn’t notice that much in my use)
The shiny screens has always been on of the worst aspects of macs.
His title says what he is going to talk about in the video. Just gotta read it.
90% of people would likely prefer not to have a matte screen? Really? I thing that glare screen is the worst. Only matte screen
Colors shift, sharpness blurs, contrast increases - overall, with a matte finish, it's less comfortable to look at the screen 24/7. This is necessary only for a small number of people, such as those who work outdoors or in environments with glare.
You are acting like a developer. What you are showing here are not what developers care that much about. A year 1 student can make this video. No tech