Rockwell 6S VS Rex Envoy - Which One Is Best for You?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- If you're in the market for a new safety razor, you may be wondering which one to choose between the Rockwell 6S and the Rex Envoy. Both of these razors are popular choices among wet shavers, but they have some key differences that may make one a better fit for you than the other.
The Rockwell 6S is a versatile razor that comes with six different adjustable plates, allowing you to customize the aggressiveness of your shave. It's made of high-quality stainless steel and has a comfortable grip, making it a durable and reliable choice.
On the other hand, the Rex Envoy is a single-plate razor that's known for its smooth and efficient shave. It's made of aircraft-grade aluminum and has a sleek, modern design that's sure to impress.
Ultimately, the choice between these two razors will depend on your personal preferences and shaving style. If you're looking for a razor that offers a lot of flexibility and customization, the Rockwell 6S may be the way to go. But if you want a razor that's simple, effective, and stylish, the Rex Envoy could be the perfect fit.
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Different topic altogether. Your videos are outstanding and heads and shoulders better than 99% of the other RUclips shave videos IMHO for the following reasons:
1. Your ego never appears,
2. You like teaching others,
3. You never try to be “cute,”
4. Your opinions are clearly stated as such,
5. You appear comfortable in your own skin,
6. You provide meaningful information in a very matter-of-fact way.
7. You are skilled and informed in your topics.
I think you are the perfect guy to do a series exploring and explaining why different razors and blades are such personal choices. I’m sick of reading and hearing “YMMV” as a cop-out - it’s some kind of bastardized legal lingo (yes, I’m a lawyer). You’re the perfect guy to dig into blade and razor geometry and design and to explain why there are so many variables in the equation. Just a thought!
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Thank you so much. Great topic.
@@OhioShaves you da man, man!!!
Your the Best. I needed that. Thanks😀
What’s your channel name?
For me, the Envoy has a very prominent blade exposure and has a lot of blade feel. With my skin type, it is an aggressive razor and I tried a lot of blades in it, but very few worked for my shave with the Envoy to produce a shave without irritation due to the blade gap and exposure (even with the lightest swipes). Meanwhile, the Rockwell 6S (and 6C) delivers great shaves for me (I'm a Plate #3 / R3 guy) and I never have to worry too much about blade feel or a harsh shave. After trying so many times with the Envoy, I had to give it up and it's just not for me...but it is a quality product and well-crafted.
Nice review. I agree the aggressiveness of it is not the same as a Rockwell.
I’m getting both my 6s and envoy in a couple of days! Super stoked for both of these razors!! Can’t wait to do a head to head comparison myself. Great video man!
Thanks brother. Great razors
Most people who own both the 6C and 6S say the 6C offers a smoother shave due to the finish. It’s half the price of the 6S so that makes for an easy decision. The Rex has the best aesthetics of any razor in my opinion. I read complaints about all Rex razors (not the Konsul) being a bit too aggressive though. I never encounter that complaint regarding the Rockwells. I’d love to try both some day. I’ve learned that people’s opinions regarding razors are so subjective. The Merkur 34C, for example, hasn’t impressed me as it requires too many passes to remove stubble. Yet, people parrot the same 34C recommendation like it’s magic. The grip is even too short to my liking.
Thanks for sharing Your perspective
6c definitely has less drag. The Envoy is in a different class in my opinion. The metal in the head of the Chinese 6C is more fragile though. Not going to last a lifetime. It will last a long time though. Mine is a year old and looks new. I do rotate my razors though. I like having choices for different aggression. Days I skip sometimes. 6C is a daily with a 5 plate most of the time but I love my new Parker open comb variant. So smooth and choices with aggression. I know it's fun collecting razors. Soaps too.
I am a fan of this guy he tells the truth !
My process: melt a Neutrogena gold bar ,pour into a stainless shaving bowl let it go solid that is good for a year ,use brush put lather on ,it doesn't take a bunch of foam it is only what is on top of your skin that matters ,shave with double edge of your choice ,I use one edge first then second edge to go over it again , wipe off with water ,then apply a couple of drops to your hands of Jason vitamin E oil wipe your face with it (1 bottle will last over a year ) DONE ! i CAN'T STOP AND GO BACK TO THROW AWAY RAZORS .
Shave all year and get a superior shave for under 50 bucks . the next year will cost you under 20 . Razors are so cheep you can use a new one every time .and still be ahead .
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My top 3. Rockwell 6C. Razorock Lupo 95. Parker Open Comb Variant. 2 of the three from your recommendation. Thank you for what you do. Honorable mention. Leaf Twig with a Sharp Durablade. Try those blades sometime. I like Virginia Persona too. Another of your recommendations. I try really hard to buy American but its hard in the Wet Shaving world. I hope it reverts to the 60's popularity and most things would be made here and built to the quality we use to have. Now on the other hand the Rex is and is the utmost in quality. Rockwell 6S is also. Unquestionable quality as well. Enjoy your shows and love my rekindling of the wet shave after so many years away.
Thanks for sharing Richard
Ive got to say thanks 4 recommending thayers toner, that and alum bar was a game changer on newbies like me!!!!
Nice. Thank you much
I got the cucumber scent! Pretty fresh! 😅😁👍🏻🥒 once my razor gets here I'm gonna test out everything together! It's gonna be my first DE saftey razor!
I use the unscented version after every shave and before applying the after shave, it has reduced shaving irritation that I usually get.
Me Too
I have used pre-shave oil in the past with very mixed results. I find it actually interferes with the lathering process. After much research on YT, I came across a video that talked about how effective CREMO is as a pre-shave. I decided to give it a try as it's widely available at big box stores and pharmacies. Well to my surprise, it works beautifully. As an experiment, I used my high-end shave soap on one side of my face without any pre-shave. On the other side of my face, I used CREMO along with my same soap. The CREMO side was definitely slicker than the side without the pre-shave. The secret to using CREMO as a pre-shave is to apply it first and add water so it's practically dripping off your face. Then you apply your favourite shave soap. CREMO is now part of my shaving routine and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Thanks for sharing
Cremo works amazing as a “Preshave”.
Totally agree
I’ll have to try it as a pre-shave, but Cremo really dries out quickly for me, and just doesn’t work well. I tried adding more water, and just can’t get a good shave with it.
Same with the Proraso pre-shave-it dries out and gives me a terrible shave 😕
Cremo is the very best pre-shave for me as well. I sometimes even mix a tad of it with a shaving cream in the bowl as well.
In my experience the Envoy is a great razor. It really is a masterpiece in terms of quality and usability. However is not the best on my neck especially the bottom part. It doesn't work for me in that particular spot, a little bit aggressive . When I'm using on my face it's a joy. Great razor
Thanks for the info!
Both razors are medium aggressive and very good regular shavers... Prefer the rex over Rockwell... Rex feels more precise and smoother
R41 is a class apart entirely... Lovely channel... Cheers ✌️
Thanks for sharing
If u keep adding water to soap and work on lather a bit more, it would help release the lubricant ingredients, I highly recommend this
Thanks for sharing
About twelve minutes in, you were discussing lathering methods with a bowl and face, but what you say and mean is not exactly clear. Some people might want that clarified; but in any case, one CAN use a bowl for a FACE LATHER. That is what I have been doing for some two years now. The main way it works is that you first load the brush with the bit of flattened soap at the bottom of the bowl, and then you add only enough water to make a paste. THEN you brush some of this paste onto your face, and continue adding the more water to that.
That’s great. Why don’t you make a video and post it
Nice video David.🤝🏾😊
Exciting comparison.
My rockwell truly has been rocking thanks to your advise and techniques. I instinctively connected strongly to the rex envoy the first time I saw it online. It's looks are super, but the handle could have been just a bit longer. Watching you use both, it was obvious that they are both super shavers, effortless and efficient, and the razor burn on your lower neck from the envoy tells me that it's size can prompt one to add unnecessary pressure which is probably what you did. Definitely I shall get a rex envoy😊 soon because of the superb quality it exude, in addition to it's very efficient mid aggressive performance. The Rockwell to me is awesome, and one of the greatest razors on earth, giving very calm shaves anytime.
Thanks a million David; you really have helped so many of us improve our wet shaving skills. You are sincerely appreciated.❤🙏🏾👍🏾
Nice. Thanks for all your support my Friend
Greetings Ohio Shave,
I just came across your channel, and watched a couple videos. I think you’re doing a fine job.
I started using a DE razor about 8 months ago. Choosing a razor was difficult- so many options. But the prices made it more difficult because I can’t just buy several razors to decide which one is right for me because I’m retired and living on a teacher’s pension. Fortunately, I found the Rockwell 6S and got it on sale with an entire kit - soap, brush, oil, after shave. It was an offer too good to pass up! And I’m glad I got it. Great quality razor with the ability to adjust by switching base plates. I later got a Henson + on sale. It’s really good. But the 6S is my razor of choice.
Nice review
We see as we read the ingredients of the Rex Supply Co 1966 Splash, that it contains "Alum", which you just previously rinsed off from your face.
That’s great. More the marry
I think you would love the Rex Sentry. I swear the shave is as close as my Envoy and way easier to get a perfect shave with it. The Envoy will nick me or give me irritation if I am not careful, the Sentry makes shaving so easy. I sat on buying it for some time but man, I just get a great shave after shave. Sad saying this, but think it dethroned my favorite Blackbird Lite.
very interested
Just ordered the Personna’s. Looking forward to trying them. I tried Nacets after one of your vids and it’s my current go to blade for any razor.
Nacets are great blades. I like how smooth the personas are, but yet very sharp. Hard blade to beat.
Nice comparison and i love the 1955/1966 soap sets 👊
The 1966 smells like summer. Love it
Great comparison! Your videos are all outstanding. Thank you for these wonderful videos!!!
Your the Best. Thanks for watching!
So my Rockford t2 came in and through it on 3 first time & zero razor burn, and shave daily b4 with henson + and even with a feather blade left me with rash, I put feather in t2 like I said 0 burn, the henson cutting area us very limited were the t2 u don't have to b so picky, I'll put henson on shelf for looking at, that's all it's good 4
Thanks for sharing. Are feather blades, the only blades you use or have you tried other blades as well. For me, the personna Comfort coat, are just as sharp as feather blades, but they are way smoother.
@@OhioShaves well I bought a Variety pack, since every time I shaved I got burn from that henson, I tried the best right off to clear the air on blade not sharp enough, still razor rash,burn,in grown hairs, finally t2 came in yesterday & this morning tried it with a feather, and wow close shave with zero burn, and same thing with my cheapy van der hagen razor, zero burn, but henson, we're it doesn't have much of a head is a bad design for my skin I guess, & with disposable razors I had to shave every 3 days cause it burnt me up if there was only stubble, now thanks to Rockford t2 can have clean shave every day now! So with 2 razors with same design do good for me it's got to b that henson
With henson I tried personna, feather, van der hagen wich that did awesome with the matching 20$ razor, feather, bic Astra stainless, all did bad for me in henson
Been trying different blades in my week old Rex Envoy and the blade for me so far is the Astra Green.
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Good shave. Two good quality razors. Good video. Either one or both should cover your shaving needs for life. The soap, aftershave balm I need to try. But yeah I am suffering from shave soap overload. Take care and enjoy your day with that nice shave.
Thank you much. Have a great day
David - this video inspired me to do a head-to head 😂 shave - Rockwell 6C plate 3 against Rex Konsul set on 3. I’ve adopted the exact pre-shave products and routine you taught me - they do make a difference! Much to my surprise, the Rockwell produced a better result with more comfort than the Konsul. Both were BBS shaves with the Rockwell being far more comfortable and close and the alum block never lies. Neck area with the Konsul had a lot more “feedback” even though I used an Astra SP in the Konsul and a Voskhod in the 6C. The Konsul just got retired by the Rockwell!
Great review. Thanks for sharing that.
@@OhioShaves - how about a Feather blade in the Rockwell? Too sharp?
It works. I just found that persona comfort coats are almost as sharp, but a way smoother shave than feather blades.
@@OhioShaves - are the Personna’s you like linked in the video description?
Yes, with a American flag in front of them
Nice vid all the way around. I need to do the side by side with my ambassador and 6s as this vid got me curious. From what I remember even on 3 the ambassador had more blade feel. I hope Matt sends you an ambassador and Konsul. I think you will see above 3 on ambassador it is much different than 6s(more blade)while the Konsul is efficient while still being very smooth. I don’t know how he did it on the Konsul but he did. Quality products.
Also the 6s is injection molded while Matt’s razors are CNC(more precise) with better quality SS although I’ve never had an issue with 6s tolerances.
Have a good one.
Thank you much. Hopefully Matt will send both😀
Very nice, David, thanks! Great video quality, great info, comments are on point. Was a little surprised you didn't include the Thayers this time around, though. I have the 1966 balm and like it, but you're right: it's WAY thick; don't need much at all. Appreciate your time and efforts on putting these together. Very, very helpful. Cheers.
Thank you much. The 1966 splash has witch hazel in it. That's why I didn't use it today.👍
Great stuff as always @ohioshaves! That 1966 definitely smells good, will have to try it (I've smelled in-store at RE but haven't purchased yet). FYI I've heard through the grapevine that there might be a 1977 drop this Autumn or Winter...not sure of the scent profile, but I think it'll be season-appropriate (so maybe dark and spicy).
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A bunch of different companies make so many shaving soaps. Really, after trying a few of them, maybe about eight without trying to count them exactly, I never tried a shaving soap which did not work well.
I have had some bad ones that companies have sent me to review.
Love my 6s. It is my every day razor. I tried the Envoy but too much blade feel for me. 👍👍👍
Good choice!
Nice video. I use T&H Pre-Shave-oil. Love it. And I take the 6S due to versatility. Love mine.
💈👍Thank you much
The Rex v Rockwell are worlds apart in price point. Rockwell wins hands down I cannot justify the cost of a Rex and if you don't like the Rex you eat the cost.
Unless there was a huge pricing increase, the envoy is roughly the same price as a Rockwell. But I agree with you Rockwell is a better razor by far.
Great video. I'm really curious how the new 3 piece slant will be. I've never used a Konsul, but they're pretty universally loved.
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These are 2 razors I've been wanting to compare for a while. Excellent video.
Also, just for the future, it's Trafalgar. Truh-fal-ger. As in the Battle of Trafalgar. Lol
Thanks for the help brother
The Rex has a slightly higher blade gap than the R4 plate, but I'm guessing it's short handle makes it more agressive?
It has a positive blade exposure. Whereas the Rockwell has a neutral blade exposure.
Thank you for posting this video. I am thinking about the Rex Supply Company razors, but the Rockwell 6S is quite interesting too. You make good points about the presence of blade tabs. I had not thought about those. You seem to be using the Envoy in the "Standard" finish. I wonder if an optional finish would improve a shave? For example would a rhodium finish offer a better shave than the Standard finish, or a "Polish only" finish?
Thanks for sharing! Same razor the finish will not make a difference at all
@@OhioShaves I'd like to let you know that I decided to send a rather old gold-look Gillette Tech Ball End razor to Razor Emporium for their revamp service. I decided to have the razor re-plated in rhodium. Part of my motivation was to honor the family member who gave me that razor a few years ago. I have been shaving with the rhodium finish razor several times now and I am not certain if the plating makes a helpful difference to my shave experience. It is hard to say. Those old Tech razors were on the lightweight side anyhow, and have short handles. Weight about 59 grams. I always get irritation when I shave my neck area with a Tech (including with the "revamped" razor.) So I still can't positively say if rhodium improves my shave experience. It certainly looks great, however! The shine is such a wonderful change from the original, un-revamped razor, which showed many decades of use. I'm interested in buying a high end razor and I keep coming back to the Rex Supply Company products. If I do buy one from them I will have the new razor "upgraded" to rhodium finish as a major splurge on myself. As an aside, I like the Simpson brush you are using.
@@robertcochran7103 Matt uses a positive blade field on all of his razors he has introduced. That positive blade exposure is what dictates how smooth and comfortable that shave will be. A neutral blade feel gives you a smooth shave without losing any ability of removing hair from your face or skin for that matter. Rockwell razors have a neutral blade that makes for a smooth comfortable, shave, no matter what plate you're using as long as the razor blade is sharpen enough for that plate. That being said, I haven't found a razor blade that does not work in this safety razor. I can always find a blade to match a plate I just have to play around with it a little bit. Rockwell is having a huge sale right now 50% off and you can get an additional 10% by using my code. Buy Direct and Save-
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You seem like whatever razor blade soap combination use , you are gonna get an almost perfect shave seems really satisfying ! Great job keep spreading good vibes so we can reach at this stage also !!
Well for Rockwell razor I don’t know I have the 6s black model but till now I haven’t get a single good shave.. I have tried much and different combinations but still nothing I’m feeling kind of disappointed for my investment so I’m looking for a site or platform to sell or trade with other razors . If you have something in mind please let me now! Thanks a lot and keep it up with this enjoyable content !
That is one fantastic raiser. It Hass to be something that you're doing. Why don't you watch this video and follow along to get a great shave. ruclips.net/video/V2tszfS4wfg/видео.html
I love the idea of a place to buy and sell second hand DE razors and supplies. I have a few others that I went through as well before I found the Rockwell Model T2 that as hard as I try, just can't get a bad shave out of. I'd love to try a 6S some day as well. Hope you find a combination that works for you.
Great shave! I’ve had almost every razor and still can’t believe that Rockwell just got it right years ago, along with the Phoenix Meta-4, these are the only 2 razors I use. It’s just amazing how fantastic the Rockwell is!
You call the Envoy the ambassador a few times... Also your simpson brush is call Trafalgar...pronounced Trah-fall-ger. Regardless this is a great comparison! I considered both of these not too long ago
Thanks. I’m not perfect.😁
Yes, when I started to watch it, I got confused and thought the Ambassador was a 3-piece adjustable. Also, he calls the Rockwell the 6c a few times, too. He obviously has good video tech skills, so it shouldn't be hard to put some text on the screen correcting these errors when they are said -- I've seen others do it.
Also, "Personna" should be pronounced with a short "o", not a long "o". It should sound different than "persona."
I'm curious about using an after shave splash AND balm. I can see using one or the other by why both? Those splashes have a tendency to have alcohol in it and have seen videos recommending against using anything with alcohol after your shave as it dries your skin.
There is no burn. Some alcohol does not burn your face. Vegan based
I want to buy the Personna blades through your affiliate link but I think you forgot to include it in the description. Not finding it.
Thanks for pointing that out. I was up till 3 AM last night. Trying to upload this video to RUclips. It wasn’t taking it. I just added it.
I have to stay away from the Rex brand unfortunately.. Too pricey for me being disabled and on a very limited income. They should make a cheaper option like Rockwell does. I currently own the 6c and its a very versatile razor for all skin types. Great content as always. Thanks for the video.
The Rockwell 6C is a Winner for me too
Great soap and brush by the way!
Thank you!
6S is the nads! Excellent all around. Smooth for sure.
Envoy junk.
I have both and find Envoy to be harsher than R41
Thanks for sharing
In your video at approximately 4:20, you call it the Rex Ambassador rather than the Rex Envoy; naughty boy.
Trying to get a Rex ambassador from Matt😁
Can't blame you for that.@@OhioShaves
I’ve had a 6S for several months that I like, but I have seen a lot of good comparisons/reviews about the Yates 921 but haven’t seen a comparison with the 6S. I’ve been tempted to pick up a Yates what do you think. Looked at the Envoy too but I like the optionality with the 921.
Thank you.
Yates is a no brainer. Very underrated company that can’t afford the marketing.
Ok great - I love the shorter Rockwell handle and am going to get this one with the short Merica handle that is the same thickness as the 6s.
Ordered - thanks!
Does the 1966 have any wood oil added to it? If so, I can't get it. I'm allergic to trees and I will brake out like no tomorrow. Sounds like some good stuff but I need to becareful on what products, I buy.
Great question. I am not sure about that. Head over to your razor Emporium and check it out. It is some fantastic soap though.
@OhioShaves sweet thanks, man
6S all the way!
It's hard to beat
16:43is it possible that alum is causing irritation? 23:10
No. Since I added it it to my shaving routine, it is only helped me.
The title says Rex Envoy but you keep mentioning the Rex Ambassador
It’s the envoy, not the ambassador.
As usual, nice video, thanks.
You’re the best. Thanks my friend
Persona is no longer manufacturing blades. They've been bought out by another USA company called Accu Thrive. Still the same great blade.
They're still available on Amazon. I watched Geo fat boys channel as well.
The Personna brand (with 2 'n's, btw) is still a brand, and is owned by Edgewell Personal Care.
BTW, most wet shavers call the "Comfort coated" blades made in the U.S.A. "Personna Lab Blues." I've never heard them called "comfort coats" before, but granted that is closer to what is actually written on the box.
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Thank you!@@OhioShaves
Hello mate hope your well, just wanted your advice as i know you have alot of experience using so many wonderful razors, im looking for a high end razor that will last a life time hopefully and can pass down to kids, i have coarse hair so want some thing efficient that will cut through my hair but i also have sensitive skin so don't want it to be harsh on my skin, is there any razors you would recommend and what are your personal favorites ?
Outside my top five razors for beginners, which is a great video. If you haven't watched it yet. I would go with a newfound favorite which is Yates precision manufacturing. I have a new video coming up tomorrow of a stainless steel safety razor that's under $100
@@OhioShaves thanks for letting me know, I'm actually not a beginner and I prefer high end so don't mind spending extra, would you say you prefer the Yates over the envoy
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Which of the two do you like for Head shaving the best
6S
@@OhioShaves I got to get one of them do you find it doing a better job then the r41 for Head shaving
It's a smoother shave for me
@@OhioShaves Thank you
I hate to be that guy, but as a Bit, Trafalgar is very important in the national psyche. Trafalgar is pronounced tra as in tradition, fal as in falcon, and gar is in vinegar.
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Yeah, as a Brit, it was pretty jarring. Akin to an American hear someone talk about the Battle of Getsybrug 😂
Thanks for the comparison. Do you always shave with a fresh blade with your sensitive skin?
@@badtothebone346what does this question have to do with the pronunciation of Trafalgar?
I generally use a blade twice and then throw it away.
Fellow Ohio guy here. New to the channel. Have you tried a Yates razor yet?
They are supposed to be sending me one to review. You?
Not yet.
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Dunno why your lather always looks dry
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What leather????
@@walterplinge6152 dunno u tell me
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Thanks Brother
At 9:05, are you not shaving against the grain on the first pass?
Not for the way, my hair grows on my face
The expected upcoming competition is Karve vs Rex Envoy
Karve won't send one for testing. I wonder why not?
Don’t expect freebies from all manufacturers. Karve makes outstanding razors; I know because I own one.
I think you should have both. Hahaha!
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First suckuz
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YOU'RE THE BIGGEST PIA ON RUclips NEXT TO GEOFATBOY AND Mark Szorady
PIA?
@@OhioShaves Pain In the Ass! (PIA)
Just ignore him. He didn’t get enough hugs growing up.