I love Pratchett's take on Tolkien “J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it’s big and up close. Sometimes it’s a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it’s not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji.” ― Terry Pratchett
i wanted to say this very thing. Some interviews you learn to just let the subjects talk. Good interviewers are there to facilitate and get people talking. To guide. So when it's going well you get out of the way.
Just one little criticism though: The couches as background appears to be too ambitious. It might have been a lot better if it is a plain simple background like one color and Daniel is either on the center with the two authors on the left and right or on the top or screen. I mean, this is still a Daniel Greene's Channel, right? We still need to see his appearance even if he only asks questions. We seem to have lost the brand image of Daniel by resizing him on the right side.
Thank you so much for arranging this, Daniel. Two of my favorite authors in conversation. Not often I thoroughly watch an interview to the end, but time flew by.
The crazy thing is that I got recommended Joe Abercrombie through watching Brandon Sanderson's lecture videos. When he talks about breaking in and the notes he received, he pretty much says "They really wanted Joe Abercrombie, but didn't know it yet". To add to the magic, I was broke but had an audible credit at the time. Now I've got everything of his on Audible, which a lot of people think is the best way to consume them. 🤘
I love you Daniel. I feel for you every time you tried to interject and got talked over by these Legends. While I selfishly saying to myself, shut up Daniel, you're ruining my sando-crombie main course delight. You rolled with the punches maintaining your vital disheveled attributes. Well done.
Just when you think you can't like Brandon Sanderson more. Seriously what a great person. I'm not even a huge fan of his books I'm more into GRRM and Abercrombie's stories. Fantastic interview.
I could have watched hours of these two go at it with each other, like Variety’s “Actors on Actors” series. It’s incredibly interesting to see two masters of their crafts interview each other on their respective processes. Kudos to Daniel for setting this up!
This was truly one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen. Kudos to Daniel for allowing the back and forth rather than trying to barge in with questions.
This was so good, my 2 favorite authors just chatting for an hour straight, the only problem was that it wasn't 10x longer. Congrats on managing to set this up Dan, and thanks as well for just letting them chat when they got onto a tangent! Was wonderful!
Hahaha this was a lot of fun. Didn't get through a ton of questions because they're both so charismatic and chatty, but the conversation was really enjoyable.
It made me laugh how at 1:03:33 when Daniel said a Cosmere book was probably published during the live stream, it looked like Brandon thought "wait, _do_ we have any book coming out right now?" for half a second before going "oh, lol, it was a joke of course."
Sandercrombie, love to see it! I could listen to these guys talk shop for multiple hours, but one will do for now. I wonder if you're looking to set up other two-author chats.
I love how you just realised they won't stop talking and made your self smaller. that was really funny. :) but still great questions and great interview. :)
Brandon did a great job the one time I met him at DragonCon. Made sure everyone got a chance to ask him a question in his signature line. What a monster.
Not sure if audiobooks are your thing, but you'd be doing yourself a massive favor if you listened to all of Abercrombie's work vs reading it. Best writer/narrator duo in all of fiction imo. His work stands among the top of the fantasy pantheon in its own right, but Pacey's narration is what elevates his books (particularly the Age of Madness trilogy and the stand alones) into some of the greatest tales ever told. Enjoy!!
@@rolloiii5164 About that... how does one even get into listening to audiobooks? Is Audible all there is? (If yes, that's okay. Just point me in a direction and I'll figure it out, but would definitely appreciate some guidance)
I discovered the blade itself randomly on a bookshelf in a public library when I was like 11 years old. It is shocking to me, to an insane degree how many people I know who love fantasy that have never heard of Abercrombie. It was a total happy accident that I do know him and his work.
What Sanderson said about burning out on fantasy in 00s, I hit a slump for exactly the reasons he stated. I stopped reading fantasy for years and gravitated towards comics/manga. I've rediscovered my passion for it in the last few years, there are so many great authors and series with so much diversity, I feel like a teenager dipping my toe back in. I've a TBR that's going to last me years. Both these authors have contributed to this. I loved this interview, thank you
This flashed up randomly on my feed today, I'm so glad I took the time to watch it - absolutely brilliant. Kudos to Daniel for stepping back very early on and just letting Joe and Brandon talk!
34:20 Guy Gavriel Kay as an author's author! I listened to one of his books a year ago and loved the quality. It was recommended to me by someone I was swapping fantasy stories with. I need to listen to more of his work.
I just hope Sanderson reads this and knows that Tress of the Emerald Sea was so magical and wonderful and beautiful and i'm so forever grateful for having been able to experience such a wonderful and thoughtful story.
My 2 favourite authors on screen together chatting away, this was too awesome. Love your channel Daniel, you really know how to moderate big personalities and your content is top notch as always.
Good job Daniel. You knew how to steer the conversation here but also how to let them just talk and go off topic and create the beauty that is two of the best writers in the world at the moment talking to each other.
I finished all of the Sanderson books then discovered Abercrombie right after. Just finished the last book in the First Law series. The difference between the two author's styles are immense but I enjoyed them both equally. Moved onto the Powdermage Triliogy and am really enjoying that too. Sorry for rambling. Just wanna say this is kind of surreal for me seeing two authors who recently affected my understanding of the genre so much chatting together. They have both inspired me to start writing.
Amazing guests, fantastic content. Biggest shout out to Daniel for killing the role of host, allowed for a natural conversation with 2 legends, just coming in with questions and morsels to inspire the next topic, brilliant work mate.
As someone that is a huge Sanderson fan that just yesterday started my first Abercrombie book, this was a wonderful interview. I loved the back and forth from them and appreciated that Daniel was smart enough to get out of their way and let them banter for the most part. Wonderful.
Abercrombie is my all time number 1 guy and I love him and his books to high heaven. That said, the man that got me BACK into fantasy reading after 10-12 years away was Sanderson when I kept seeing/hearing about Stormlight Archive and gave it a go and fell in love. For a bit there in 2020-2021 Sanderson was my modern fave. Then Abercrombie has completely and utterly taken over my life since. Still gosh dang what a GREAT couple of guests, a yin Yang of modern fantasy writing, both masters! What a pleasure and thank you!
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen...with the interviewer somehow asking fewer questions than the interviewees themselves. Fantastic job Daniel. Not feeling the need to muscle in on the conversation and making it about yourself as so many interviewers do. Just kept it flowing amazingly well. Great conversation!
This was fantastic! Also, you did a great job of balancing when to ask thoughtful questions and knowing when to step back to let them just talk to one another. Well done!
It's so weird that you have these two. I am busy going through both their libraries now. Finished all Sanderson, have 3 more Abercrombie left. So different, yet so good.
Man this was so incredible. Daniel what a brilliant idea. Thank you so much for pulling it together, and for moderating it with such precision. I love these two authors and can't wait to see what they (and you!) do next.
I did not know that I could like these two even more, but yes,I could. That question - if and hiw they inspired each other and their answers - that was just wonderful
What an interesting interview! Thanks a lot Daniel. And thank you for bringing up Steven Erikson a few times, i am so interested in Sandersons and Abercrombies take on the malazan books but they just never talk about it! This was a pleasure anyway 😅
23 Minutes in and I just remembered this was an 'interview'. The fact that Daniel stuck these two in a call and they just did their thing... chefs kiss.
I do think that despite a live-action adaptation having more credibility/oomph in the industry, a series like Mistborn and Stormlight feel like they are better suited for animated works because there is a lot of action and motion that goes into the magic systems of those worlds, and I personally find that animation can capture that better than a heavily VFXed movie.
I agree that animation would be the only way to feasibly adapt the storm light archive, but u r dead wrong about mistborn and that series might be even better as a live action series with CGI elements.
Nicely done! Makes me want to sit down over a cup of coffee with Daniel, Joe, and Brandon and just talk shop. All three of these guys come across as very genuine, which is great. I hope they are just as funny and nice off screen as they are on screen. I have a feeling they are.
Sanderson has an amazing skill with interviews and talking. I mean, besides his writing. He is a joy to listen to and I always feel like I learned something and come out of his videos more fulfilled. Theres a high charisma stat behind that smile.
Hey Daniel, I know how hard it probably is to schedule this kind of video but we need MORE like this. Imagine Fonda Lee and Jim Butcher. Abercrombie and Mark Lawrence. You get it. So fun hearing authors talk to each other.
“I would rather take cheese graters to my eyes instead of writing”. Joe Abercrombie, one of the best fantasy writers of the current era.
😂😂😂
such a way with words
Life is Books written between disappointments
"What do you love about grimdark fantasy?"
Joe: "It paid for my house."
(From a reddit thread)
He’s the best fantasy writer of all time. No other author has done dialogue or character work like him
I couldn't see Sanderson's feet. There's nothing you can say that would convince me he wasn't typing a new book with his toes.
😂
He wrote three books in his head during this interview.
Nothing is more relatable than early on when Daniel tried to say something 3 times and just accepted it wasn't meant to be.
Probably best he kept to the back seat and let both of them drive instead and just provided brief driving instructions.
What did he say?
It's at 7:50 for those who are looking.
Daniel?
This is the Barbieheimer of booktube
Lmao that's the perfect way to describe it
Accurate
Are you saying cosmere is barbie??
@@kiritokazuto2398 i think he meant two of the greatest writers alive each one with his own different style
Right on the thumbnail
I love Pratchett's take on Tolkien
“J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it’s big and up close. Sometimes it’s a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it’s not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji.”
― Terry Pratchett
Terry Pratchett was such a great author. He's sorely missed.
Daniel asks a single question then the Bois just talk for 10+ min ahhhh I love it.
Abercrombie and Sanderson are only two of the great storytellers of the current generation. It is expected for writers like them to talk in length.
If Rucchio was here too it would of easily been a 3 hr video 😂
Daniel *literally* putting himself into the corner and just letting these guys roll is a testament to his wisdom as a host.
It really is, it seems counterintuitive but all he wanted was to listen to these two talk to each other and they were doing it LOL
Yeah, his awareness and contextual decision to let them run with their conversation is impressive.
Smart guy. Just seamlessly blended himself into the background once he got the conversation going the way he wanted.
Daniel, you did a great job with the interview. Just stayed quiet and let them ask eachother questions. Very well done.
Agree 100%.
i wanted to say this very thing. Some interviews you learn to just let the subjects talk. Good interviewers are there to facilitate and get people talking. To guide. So when it's going well you get out of the way.
Just one little criticism though: The couches as background appears to be too ambitious. It might have been a lot better if it is a plain simple background like one color and Daniel is either on the center with the two authors on the left and right or on the top or screen. I mean, this is still a Daniel Greene's Channel, right? We still need to see his appearance even if he only asks questions. We seem to have lost the brand image of Daniel by resizing him on the right side.
Thank you so much for arranging this, Daniel. Two of my favorite authors in conversation. Not often I thoroughly watch an interview to the end, but time flew by.
Totally agree, this was absolutely epic, the conversation just flowed, if only it could have been 10 hours longer :D
I love the part toward the end "Is anything unadaptable?" "No." "I'm sending that to Steven Erikson right now."😂
The crazy thing is that I got recommended Joe Abercrombie through watching Brandon Sanderson's lecture videos. When he talks about breaking in and the notes he received, he pretty much says "They really wanted Joe Abercrombie, but didn't know it yet". To add to the magic, I was broke but had an audible credit at the time. Now I've got everything of his on Audible, which a lot of people think is the best way to consume them. 🤘
I love you Daniel. I feel for you every time you tried to interject and got talked over by these Legends. While I selfishly saying to myself, shut up Daniel, you're ruining my sando-crombie main course delight. You rolled with the punches maintaining your vital disheveled attributes. Well done.
Props to Daniel for sitting back and letting these two have the floor. We got a natural flowing conversation that was so enjoyable to watch.
Never in my lifetime did I ever anticipate watching two masters of the fantasy genre just casually discussing their builds in Elden Ring.
On ambercrombie is a ROB user 😂
Just when you think you can't like Brandon Sanderson more. Seriously what a great person. I'm not even a huge fan of his books I'm more into GRRM and Abercrombie's stories. Fantastic interview.
I could have watched hours of these two go at it with each other, like Variety’s “Actors on Actors” series. It’s incredibly interesting to see two masters of their crafts interview each other on their respective processes. Kudos to Daniel for setting this up!
Joe being a Rivers of Blood build guy somehow is fitting.
He absolutely would find the smoothest way to beat the game and exploit it shamelessly. My spirit animal.
This was truly one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen. Kudos to Daniel for allowing the back and forth rather than trying to barge in with questions.
This was so good, my 2 favorite authors just chatting for an hour straight, the only problem was that it wasn't 10x longer. Congrats on managing to set this up Dan, and thanks as well for just letting them chat when they got onto a tangent! Was wonderful!
that was great man. thanks Daniel. you are the goat. THE GOAT
3 GOATS, 2 chairs, a fern, and a goblin with a dagger. What’s not to love? It was an awesome hour, thank you very much!
Hahaha this was a lot of fun. Didn't get through a ton of questions because they're both so charismatic and chatty, but the conversation was really enjoyable.
This was such a fun live stream! I loved the whole conversation. Thank you for this Daniel!
It made me laugh how at 1:03:33 when Daniel said a Cosmere book was probably published during the live stream, it looked like Brandon thought "wait, _do_ we have any book coming out right now?" for half a second before going "oh, lol, it was a joke of course."
lol, I thought Brandon might have actually had a book coming out for a moment as well
this was simply amazing. i wish it was 5 hours long.
Sandercrombie, love to see it! I could listen to these guys talk shop for multiple hours, but one will do for now. I wonder if you're looking to set up other two-author chats.
I love how you just realised they won't stop talking and made your self smaller. that was really funny. :) but still great questions and great interview. :)
Brandon did a great job the one time I met him at DragonCon. Made sure everyone got a chance to ask him a question in his signature line. What a monster.
so evil....
Finished Cosmere last year, finished WoT this year. Starting Joe’s books now…
Have fun!!
Not sure if audiobooks are your thing, but you'd be doing yourself a massive favor if you listened to all of Abercrombie's work vs reading it. Best writer/narrator duo in all of fiction imo. His work stands among the top of the fantasy pantheon in its own right, but Pacey's narration is what elevates his books (particularly the Age of Madness trilogy and the stand alones) into some of the greatest tales ever told. Enjoy!!
@@rolloiii5164 About that... how does one even get into listening to audiobooks? Is Audible all there is? (If yes, that's okay. Just point me in a direction and I'll figure it out, but would definitely appreciate some guidance)
@@rolloiii5164 Personally strongly recommend reading first, listening later. I'd always recommend reading personally first, never rob yourself of that individual-to-you experience.
@@rolloiii5164 Seconding this. The audiobooks are incredible.
I discovered the blade itself randomly on a bookshelf in a public library when I was like 11 years old. It is shocking to me, to an insane degree how many people I know who love fantasy that have never heard of Abercrombie. It was a total happy accident that I do know him and his work.
My two favourite writers! Absolutely love it!
Absolutely brilliant content. We really should get a show with Daniel Greene about books on Netflix or Amazon.
What Sanderson said about burning out on fantasy in 00s, I hit a slump for exactly the reasons he stated. I stopped reading fantasy for years and gravitated towards comics/manga. I've rediscovered my passion for it in the last few years, there are so many great authors and series with so much diversity, I feel like a teenager dipping my toe back in. I've a TBR that's going to last me years. Both these authors have contributed to this. I loved this interview, thank you
This flashed up randomly on my feed today, I'm so glad I took the time to watch it - absolutely brilliant. Kudos to Daniel for stepping back very early on and just letting Joe and Brandon talk!
What a wonderful experience it was just listening to these two Goats ❤❤
34:20 Guy Gavriel Kay as an author's author! I listened to one of his books a year ago and loved the quality. It was recommended to me by someone I was swapping fantasy stories with.
I need to listen to more of his work.
My two favorite writers, wow. Thank you so much for putting this together, amazing!
I just hope Sanderson reads this and knows that Tress of the Emerald Sea was so magical and wonderful and beautiful and i'm so forever grateful for having been able to experience such a wonderful and thoughtful story.
My 2 favourite authors on screen together chatting away, this was too awesome. Love your channel Daniel, you really know how to moderate big personalities and your content is top notch as always.
EPIC podcast. Thanks Daniel
Thus was simply a joy to watch
Two of my favorite three authors! Great fun, thank you.
Who is your third?
@@nariandez Adrian Tchaikovsky
@@ChristianBullock ok I got it thanks
Good job Daniel. You knew how to steer the conversation here but also how to let them just talk and go off topic and create the beauty that is two of the best writers in the world at the moment talking to each other.
Who else would kill to read each of these guys write a short story set in the other's universe?
This is such a great idea lol
I would do anything to have this become a reality! I would love to see a character like one of Abercrombie’s in the cosmere.
I finished all of the Sanderson books then discovered Abercrombie right after. Just finished the last book in the First Law series. The difference between the two author's styles are immense but I enjoyed them both equally. Moved onto the Powdermage Triliogy and am really enjoying that too.
Sorry for rambling. Just wanna say this is kind of surreal for me seeing two authors who recently affected my understanding of the genre so much chatting together. They have both inspired me to start writing.
Daniel, great job having the humility to step back and just let these two great authors chat with each other. Great interview.
Could listen to this for Hours!
As a person from Spain PLEASE COME BACK TO THE CELSIUS FESTIVAL💜💜💜💜💜
Amazing guests, fantastic content. Biggest shout out to Daniel for killing the role of host, allowed for a natural conversation with 2 legends, just coming in with questions and morsels to inspire the next topic, brilliant work mate.
Best "interview" I've seen in years, well done
My two favourite book authors together! AND IT ISN'T CHRISTMAS YET?!
One hour of happiness. Thanks. 🎉
I'm so happy Michael Moorcock and Jack Vance were mentioned
As someone that is a huge Sanderson fan that just yesterday started my first Abercrombie book, this was a wonderful interview. I loved the back and forth from them and appreciated that Daniel was smart enough to get out of their way and let them banter for the most part. Wonderful.
Brandon and Joe are such different individuals and it really shows in their works. This stuff is brilliant 😂😂
I just want to thank you Daniel for putting this together. My two favourite authors of all time. And it didn't disappoint. ❤❤
Wow! That was the fastest hour of my life. please try to do more of these type of interviews.
Thank you Daniel for making this happen.❤
Kudos for this phenomenal interview. The creativity and editing is chef’s kiss.
Abercrombie is my all time number 1 guy and I love him and his books to high heaven. That said, the man that got me BACK into fantasy reading after 10-12 years away was Sanderson when I kept seeing/hearing about Stormlight Archive and gave it a go and fell in love. For a bit there in 2020-2021 Sanderson was my modern fave. Then Abercrombie has completely and utterly taken over my life since. Still gosh dang what a GREAT couple of guests, a yin Yang of modern fantasy writing, both masters! What a pleasure and thank you!
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen...with the interviewer somehow asking fewer questions than the interviewees themselves.
Fantastic job Daniel. Not feeling the need to muscle in on the conversation and making it about yourself as so many interviewers do. Just kept it flowing amazingly well.
Great conversation!
What a refreshing, inspiring and uplifting stream this was. Thank you for making this happen.
This was fantastic! Also, you did a great job of balancing when to ask thoughtful questions and knowing when to step back to let them just talk to one another. Well done!
People underestimate the range that George R.R. Martin has especially with his older work.
This is brilliant !
I like the way your mostly just let these guys flow with each other!
Sir Joe Abercrombie
And … Mr Brandon Sanderson, lol
Thanks for this interview! Fantastic!
It's so weird that you have these two. I am busy going through both their libraries now. Finished all Sanderson, have 3 more Abercrombie left. So different, yet so good.
Thank you Daniel! Great Interview
I love how this was supposed to be a live with fan questions and we got two authors/nerds nerding out!
This was so great. Thank you so much for organizing this conversation, Daniel!
My two all time favorite fantasy authors!
this was such a respectful interview. Lighter, nice, fun, interesting. You're doing an amazing job as an interviewer, Daniel!
I have never seen Daniel this happy before, he's sitting in a personal podcast lol
This is an excellent interview!
As an aspiring author, it is great to see two awesome authors talk shop, but also talk about their weaknesses.
Hey Daniel. Glad to have you back. Hope you're well
Man this was so incredible. Daniel what a brilliant idea. Thank you so much for pulling it together, and for moderating it with such precision. I love these two authors and can't wait to see what they (and you!) do next.
Wow 😮 amazing video! Lucky you to have them both on ur channel!! 🎉💯💯💯💯💯💯🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I did not know that I could like these two even more, but yes,I could. That question - if and hiw they inspired each other and their answers - that was just wonderful
Thank you for doing this! ❤
This interview was wonderful I hope you have two authors on together again!
What an interesting interview! Thanks a lot Daniel. And thank you for bringing up Steven Erikson a few times, i am so interested in Sandersons and Abercrombies take on the malazan books but they just never talk about it! This was a pleasure anyway 😅
My two favorite authors. I have been waiting for this
23 Minutes in and I just remembered this was an 'interview'. The fact that Daniel stuck these two in a call and they just did their thing... chefs kiss.
Great time listening!
Love what you do Daniel, especially your ability to bring two such awesome authors together!
I do think that despite a live-action adaptation having more credibility/oomph in the industry, a series like Mistborn and Stormlight feel like they are better suited for animated works because there is a lot of action and motion that goes into the magic systems of those worlds, and I personally find that animation can capture that better than a heavily VFXed movie.
Totally agree, I always imagined Mistborn as an animated series, it would work much better than live action imho
I agree that animation would be the only way to feasibly adapt the storm light archive, but u r dead wrong about mistborn and that series might be even better as a live action series with CGI elements.
So insighful to get to listen in on a conversation between two titans. Could have tuned in for hours. Great work arranging this.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best interview ever.
Just started listening to this, I hope Abercrombie was asked about Glokta and if he was going to write more with him in! Nothing else matters!!
Nicely done! Makes me want to sit down over a cup of coffee with Daniel, Joe, and Brandon and just talk shop. All three of these guys come across as very genuine, which is great. I hope they are just as funny and nice off screen as they are on screen. I have a feeling they are.
Excited for this. Thank you for organizing Daniel!
I never realized how much Brandon Sanderson looks like Rich Evans. God works in mysterious ways.
Brandon's shoutout to GGK made my day.
What a great duo interview!!
Sanderson has an amazing skill with interviews and talking. I mean, besides his writing. He is a joy to listen to and I always feel like I learned something and come out of his videos more fulfilled.
Theres a high charisma stat behind that smile.
Three of my favorite authors!
goblin gang
Now that’s a RUclips video. Great stuff thank you to everyone involved.
Hey Daniel, I know how hard it probably is to schedule this kind of video but we need MORE like this. Imagine Fonda Lee and Jim Butcher. Abercrombie and Mark Lawrence. You get it. So fun hearing authors talk to each other.
This interview is amazing dude.
What an amazing video. Thank you for organising daniel